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2014-02-15 02:55:43 AM  
Bad idea.
I was working at a live music club in the early 80s, when the same company that provided the pinball machines installed one.

It was removed 3 days later because people have having contests to see who could get the highest score.
 
2014-02-15 03:42:52 AM  

TommyymmoT: Bad idea.


The proposal has died already.
 
2014-02-15 10:41:03 AM  

TommyymmoT: Bad idea.
I was working at a live music club in the early 80s, when the same company that provided the pinball machines installed one.

It was removed 3 days later because people have having contests to see who could get the highest score.


Yep. Did that in the 80s, too.
Winner got a ride home from the guy that came in 2nd.
 
2014-02-15 11:09:00 AM  
bearded clamorer

Yep. Those were good times. I would order a shot of tequila, leave it in my mouth and then blow through the tube. I won a lot of bets.
 
2014-02-15 11:35:44 AM  
Read that as "Utah bears".

Made it a much better article.
 
2014-02-15 11:37:04 AM  
If these were accurate I'd happily place an ignition lock on my own car, to keep me from driving.

I once owned a breathalyzer, same model like 70% of the highway patrol uses.   It was wildly inaccurate, two back to back tries got different results, but it was fun at parties.  This was a little handheld thing, which is why they have to test you on the real machine back at the station.
 
2014-02-15 11:37:19 AM  
Ah Utah. Is there any wherein the State where you're allowed to have fun without any interference?
 
2014-02-15 11:39:08 AM  

Astorix: Ah Utah. Is there any wherein the State where you're allowed to have fun without any interference?




That Sister Wives seems to be having a good time with no worries about pesky laws.
 
2014-02-15 11:39:42 AM  

Delay: bearded clamorer

Yep. Those were good times. I would order a shot of tequila, leave it in my mouth and then blow through the tube. I won a lot of bets.


I worked in a lab back then, started carrying a small vial of ethyl ether - when frat boys would be having those contests one of us would put a couple drops on our tongue and casually stroll up and call them lightweights, max out the reading, then stroll back and sit down like it was no big deal and resume drinking. if it was a cute little girl half their weight it had a particularly humbling effect.
 
2014-02-15 11:42:21 AM  
What's next, adding a blood sugar testing station at all fast food joints to see if you're too diabetic to super size your meal?
 
2014-02-15 11:43:30 AM  
I'm a POS but reformed drunk driver. Thank God I never hurt anyone. I've had 2 DUI s.

My rule now? 1 beer, no driving.
 
2014-02-15 11:45:04 AM  

Astorix: Ah Utah. Is there any wherein the State where you're allowed to have fun without any interference?


Pretty much the entirety of Salt Lake City is a good place to party.  And if you're loaded, Park City.

Utah's actually kinda great.
 
2014-02-15 11:49:43 AM  
I never understood why someone would spend 70 or 80 bucks (or more)on a night on the town and be too cheap to take a cab home or have someone available to call.
 
2014-02-15 11:51:58 AM  

Dafatone: Astorix: Ah Utah. Is there any wherein the State where you're allowed to have fun without any interference?

Pretty much the entirety of Salt Lake City is a good place to party.  And if you're loaded, Park City.

Utah's actually kinda great.




Those two cities are great, but Utah? It's actually kinda awful. I work there every other week. The liquor laws are beyond retarded. 3.2% on draft no matter what. Zion's Curtain in restaurants. 1.5oz maximum shots and no freepours by law unless it's a "mixer". No booze before 11am around the state and 8am in the freaking airport!?!? 8am flight and a Bloody Mary? Nope. Utah farking blows if you enjoy a cocktail. The winter inversion in the valley making the air quality worse than LA in the summer. I've travelled all over for work and Utah is one of the worst places I've had to go.

/Fark Utah
 
2014-02-15 11:52:23 AM  

TedCruz'sCrazyDad: That Sister Wives seems to be having a good time with no worries about pesky laws.


You've seen those beastly things he married though, right?  Yeah, they're hotties compared to your average polyg.
 
2014-02-15 11:56:40 AM  

Astorix: Ah Utah. Is there anywhere in the State where you're allowed to have fun without any interference?


MFFFfff sounds fun to me.
 
2014-02-15 11:57:08 AM  

GDubDub: I'm a POS but reformed drunk driver. Thank God I never hurt anyone. I've had 2 DUI s.

My rule now? 1 beer, no driving.



theweedram.gr
 
2014-02-15 11:58:08 AM  

QU!RK1019: TedCruz'sCrazyDad: That Sister Wives seems to be having a good time with no worries about pesky laws.

You've seen those beastly things he married though, right?  Yeah, they're hotties compared to your average polyg.


He looks kind of retarded and reminds me of my wife's nephew who is an irritating lazy pain in the ass.
 
2014-02-15 11:59:50 AM  

TommyymmoT: Bad idea.
I was working at a live music club in the early 80s, when the same company that provided the pinball machines installed one.

It was removed 3 days later because people have having contests to see who could get the highest score.


I worked for one of those companies in the mid 90's. We tried two of them for roughly 8 hours before getting the same "pull it" calls. I can't even imaging the liability issues that could have been had they made it a full week.
 
2014-02-15 12:06:50 PM  

italie: roughly 8 hours before getting the same "pull it" calls


Eight hours?  I'm lucky with 8 seconds before I get the dreaded "pull out" call.
 
2014-02-15 12:12:08 PM  

rkiller1: italie: roughly 8 hours before getting the same "pull it" calls

Eight hours?  I'm lucky with 8 seconds before I get the dreaded "pull out" call.


+1, would LOL again
 
2014-02-15 12:12:16 PM  
Yeah, Utah sucks, but if I were stuck there I'd want to be smashed out of my mind to cope with being stuck in Utah.

rkiller1: italie: roughly 8 hours before getting the same "pull it" calls

Eight hours?  I'm lucky with 8 seconds before I get the dreaded "pull out" call.


whoa buddy, no need to gloat about your marathon style sexings.
 
2014-02-15 12:22:31 PM  
Alcohol is simply an intensifier. Bad drivers drive worse whilst loaded, but good drivers drive much better. Overall, the increase of accidents caused by bad drivers is cancelled by the decrease of accidents caused by good drivers.

While there may be anecdotal horror stories about sloshed drivers mowing down entire bus queues, these are still anecdotes. The statistics don't lie. Alcohol has little effect upon road safety.
 
2014-02-15 12:32:02 PM  

letrole: Alcohol is simply an intensifier. Bad drivers drive worse whilst loaded, but good drivers drive much better. Overall, the increase of accidents caused by bad drivers is cancelled by the decrease of accidents caused by good drivers.

While there may be anecdotal horror stories about sloshed drivers mowing down entire bus queues, these are still anecdotes. The statistics don't lie. Alcohol has little effect upon road safety.


Ha! Intensifier!
I like that one.
God knows I've witnessed a few intensified people.


-----
As for the article, can you use the device before taking someone home?
"Listen...I think...hic...yer cute...but I've made that mistake before and woken up to faces that only a mother...hic...could love. So hold on hun, and let me blow into that thingamajig."
 
2014-02-15 12:38:49 PM  
My friend had one of those at his wedding. I tied for first with his Russian cousin.
 
2014-02-15 12:41:22 PM  

letrole: Alcohol is simply an intensifier. Bad drivers drive worse whilst loaded, but good drivers drive much better. Overall, the increase of accidents caused by bad drivers is cancelled by the decrease of accidents caused by good drivers.


Once again, you live up to your username to the T. Nice troll.
 
2014-02-15 01:19:32 PM  

detroitdoesntsuckthatbad: Dafatone: Astorix: Ah Utah. Is there any wherein the State where you're allowed to have fun without any interference?

Pretty much the entirety of Salt Lake City is a good place to party.  And if you're loaded, Park City.

Utah's actually kinda great.

Those two cities are great, but Utah? It's actually kinda awful. I work there every other week. The liquor laws are beyond retarded. 3.2% on draft no matter what. Zion's Curtain in restaurants. 1.5oz maximum shots and no freepours by law unless it's a "mixer". No booze before 11am around the state and 8am in the freaking airport!?!? 8am flight and a Bloody Mary? Nope. Utah farking blows if you enjoy a cocktail. The winter inversion in the valley making the air quality worse than LA in the summer. I've travelled all over for work and Utah is one of the worst places I've had to go.

/Fark Utah


This is all true.  It's still a beautiful state, and if you're mostly in striking distance of SLC, you can keep from going too insane.

There's good beer.  But it's a pretty rough state if you're a liquor person.
 
2014-02-15 01:20:04 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: letrole: Alcohol is simply an intensifier. Bad drivers drive worse whilst loaded, but good drivers drive much better. Overall, the increase of accidents caused by bad drivers is cancelled by the decrease of accidents caused by good drivers.

Once again, you live up to your username to the T. Nice troll.


It would appear the term 'troll' has lost all meaning. On the other hand, obsession and stalkish behaviour and half-witted belligerence seems to be doing as well as it ever has.

The idea that you seek me me out, and masturbate furiously when I respond, might have more appeal if you weren't a dude.

cameroncrazy1984, I just typed your name. You can switch hands and finish.
 
2014-02-15 01:26:00 PM  

Ivan the Tolerable: I worked in a lab back then


Wouldn't it be too dark to read?
 
2014-02-15 01:51:48 PM  
Only if they're not admissible in court.

/I try not to drink in Utah
 
2014-02-15 02:14:49 PM  

CruJones: If these were accurate I'd happily place an ignition lock on my own car, to keep me from driving.


No you wouldn't. I had one in my car for a year thanks to my previous life as an alcoholic, and in their current state they are nothing but an expensive hassle. Even if you owned the machine it would need to be recalibrated regularly or your car wouldn't start even if you were stone-cold sober. If you leased one you'd have to deal with rolling retests and bi-monthly service to go with the $1200 a year you'd be paying for it.

It's a good idea with poor execution, and nobody who ever had one would ever want to have one again, not even to save them from themselves. The easier, more sensible solution is (imagine this) don't drink and drive. Too bad it cost me so much to learn that lesson, but because I did and am willing to talk about it you don't have to.
 
2014-02-15 02:32:43 PM  
Last time I was in Utah, they didn't have any bars.  Just "social clubs".  Which were like bars but you had to be a member (walk in, if you weren't one the waitress yells "Someone nominate this guy?" and a dozen strangers raise their hands), and you could bring in kids of all ages.
 
2014-02-15 03:01:31 PM  

Adolf Oliver Nipples: CruJones: If these were accurate I'd happily place an ignition lock on my own car, to keep me from driving.

No you wouldn't. I had one in my car for a year thanks to my previous life as an alcoholic, and in their current state they are nothing but an expensive hassle. Even if you owned the machine it would need to be recalibrated regularly or your car wouldn't start even if you were stone-cold sober. If you leased one you'd have to deal with rolling retests and bi-monthly service to go with the $1200 a year you'd be paying for it.

It's a good idea with poor execution, and nobody who ever had one would ever want to have one again, not even to save them from themselves. The easier, more sensible solution is (imagine this) don't drink and drive. Too bad it cost me so much to learn that lesson, but because I did and am willing to talk about it you don't have to.


Yep. One of the many reasons to oppose the prohibitionists at MADDs push to require them in all vehicles.
 
2014-02-15 03:14:14 PM  

detroitdoesntsuckthatbad: Those two cities are great, but Utah? It's actually kinda awful. I work there every other week. The liquor laws are beyond retarded. 3.2% on draft no matter what. Zion's Curtain in restaurants. 1.5oz maximum shots and no freepours by law unless it's a "mixer". No booze before 11am around the state and 8am in the freaking airport!?!? 8am flight and a Bloody Mary? Nope. Utah farking blows if you enjoy a cocktail. The winter inversion in the valley making the air quality worse than LA in the summer. I've travelled all over for work and Utah is one of the worst places I've had to go.

/Fark Utah


MorganFreemanHesRightYouKnow.jpg

I grew up in Utah and thought I was "hardcore" because I could down 8-10 beers an hour and only get a slight buzz. Moved to Indiana and tried the same trick...just about put me on my ass. Same thing with their hard stuff.

Utah alcohol is so watered down it should be considered illegal.
 
2014-02-15 03:37:59 PM  

TommyymmoT: Bad idea.
I was working at a live music club in the early 80s, when the same company that provided the pinball machines installed one.

It was removed 3 days later because people have having contests to see who could get the highest score.


I saw one in a bar a few years ago. Put a quarter in and blow.

I thought it could make the bar liable.  "Your Honor, before I ran over those people, I blew on their machine and it said I was sober. "
 
2014-02-15 03:44:51 PM  

TommyymmoT: Bad idea.
I was working at a live music club in the early 80s, when the same company that provided the pinball machines installed one.

It was removed 3 days later because people have having contests to see who could get the highest score.


The bartenders should have been fired and the owners served with fines and notice.


It's illegal to serve anyone after they are intoxicated.

These machines should be mandatory and data should be fed to the bartender as well as the police.

If a bar is frequently known to serve people past the point of intoxication
(legally defined by anything over .007)
they should lose their liquor license and be shut down.

I mean... what ever happened to RULE OF LAW in this country?

You don't get to pick which parts of the law you follow and which you don't.

/not serious
//maybe i am?
///maybe a better innovation would be a machine that scraps laws no one enforces?
////*drink responsibly* *always designate a driver* *cough cough more bullshiat*
 
2014-02-15 03:49:46 PM  
Utah is very beautiful and full of nice people, but my God do they have terrible laws concerning booze. As someone who comes from a microwbrew friendly state, my drinking experiences in Utah were the worst in my life.
 
2014-02-15 04:06:56 PM  

Lamadin: Utah is very beautiful and full of nice people, but my God do they have terrible laws concerning booze. As someone who comes from a microwbrew friendly state, my drinking experiences in Utah were the worst in my life.


one word: BYOB
 
2014-02-15 04:15:16 PM  

SwiftFox: Last time I was in Utah, they didn't have any bars.  Just "social clubs".  Which were like bars but you had to be a member (walk in, if you weren't one the waitress yells "Someone nominate this guy?" and a dozen strangers raise their hands), and you could bring in kids of all ages.


Those "private club for members" days are over, thank god. But no, you could never EVER bring anyone under 21 into one of them.
 
2014-02-15 04:22:20 PM  

Resident Muslim: letrole: Alcohol is simply an intensifier. Bad drivers drive worse whilst loaded, but good drivers drive much better. Overall, the increase of accidents caused by bad drivers is cancelled by the decrease of accidents caused by good drivers.

While there may be anecdotal horror stories about sloshed drivers mowing down entire bus queues, these are still anecdotes. The statistics don't lie. Alcohol has little effect upon road safety.

Ha! Intensifier!
I like that one.
God knows I've witnessed a few intensified people.


-----
As for the article, can you use the device before taking someone home?
"Listen...I think...hic...yer cute...but I've made that mistake before and woken up to faces that only a mother...hic...could love. So hold on hun, and let me blow into that thingamajig."


You might not not argue with a frenchman
 
2014-02-15 05:44:10 PM  
MurphyMurphy:
It's illegal to serve anyone after they are intoxicated.


No, it's a liability to serve anyone after they are intoxicated . In 47 states, it's illegal to serve someone who is obviously intoxicated.

//there are subtle differences.
 
2014-02-15 06:34:55 PM  

italie: MurphyMurphy:
It's illegal to serve anyone after they are intoxicated.


No, it's a liability to serve anyone after they are intoxicated . In 47 states, it's illegal to serve someone who is obviously intoxicated.

//there are subtle differences.


touche

riposte: with the machines, the not-so-obvious would quickly find themselves otherwise
 
2014-02-15 07:32:05 PM  
Yup - have (sort of) had this fun before.  Was in Dublin and hit the Brazenhead.  Then the Temple Bar.  Then some hole in the wall back near our B&B.  The last one had the breathalyzer.  I think it was 2 euros or some shiat like that.

I won.
 
2014-02-15 07:33:58 PM  

MurphyMurphy: italie: MurphyMurphy:
It's illegal to serve anyone after they are intoxicated.


No, it's a liability to serve anyone after they are intoxicated . In 47 states, it's illegal to serve someone who is obviously intoxicated.

//there are subtle differences.

touche

riposte: with the machines, the not-so-obvious would quickly find themselves otherwise


Wholeheartedly agree.
 
2014-02-15 10:19:52 PM  

Fano: Resident Muslim: letrole: Alcohol is simply an intensifier. Bad drivers drive worse whilst loaded, but good drivers drive much better. Overall, the increase of accidents caused by bad drivers is cancelled by the decrease of accidents caused by good drivers.

While there may be anecdotal horror stories about sloshed drivers mowing down entire bus queues, these are still anecdotes. The statistics don't lie. Alcohol has little effect upon road safety.

Ha! Intensifier!
I like that one.
God knows I've witnessed a few intensified people.


-----
As for the article, can you use the device before taking someone home?
"Listen...I think...hic...yer cute...but I've made that mistake before and woken up to faces that only a mother...hic...could love. So hold on hun, and let me blow into that thingamajig."

You might not not argue with a frenchman


Hey Fano, I've been here long enough to know the regulars.
Wasn't really arguing, I actually liked the intensifier thing!
The rest of it sounded too textbook-y.
I was gonna rate out of ten but figured I didn't want to ruin the fishing expedition so early.
;)

Speaking of regulars, haven't come across the craftsmanship of SpentMiles in a while.
 
2014-02-15 10:32:10 PM  

Resident Muslim: Fano: Resident Muslim: letrole: Alcohol is simply an intensifier. Bad drivers drive worse whilst loaded, but good drivers drive much better. Overall, the increase of accidents caused by bad drivers is cancelled by the decrease of accidents caused by good drivers.

While there may be anecdotal horror stories about sloshed drivers mowing down entire bus queues, these are still anecdotes. The statistics don't lie. Alcohol has little effect upon road safety.

Ha! Intensifier!
I like that one.
God knows I've witnessed a few intensified people.


-----
As for the article, can you use the device before taking someone home?
"Listen...I think...hic...yer cute...but I've made that mistake before and woken up to faces that only a mother...hic...could love. So hold on hun, and let me blow into that thingamajig."

You might not not argue with a frenchman

Hey Fano, I've been here long enough to know the regulars.
Wasn't really arguing, I actually liked the intensifier thing!
The rest of it sounded too textbook-y.
I was gonna rate out of ten but figured I didn't want to ruin the fishing expedition so early.
;)

Speaking of regulars, haven't come across the craftsmanship of SpentMiles in a while.


Man what I wouldn't give for one of his posts again. I was thinking to look up if you also responded to such folks as Derspiele
 
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