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2014-02-14 09:39:41 PM  
Huh, I was just watching some reruns of this on HBO and was able to catch the King in Yellow reference.  But I'm not reading it if it makes you farking insane, I don't have much room to spare..........
 
2014-02-14 09:49:41 PM  
Hopefully the story arc won't involve Twin Peaks-like demon spirit that jump from person to person.
 
2014-02-14 10:33:24 PM  
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Don't over think it, just enjoy the ride.
 
2014-02-14 10:49:49 PM  
You are the Michael Jordan of being a son of a b*tch.
 
2014-02-14 10:54:40 PM  
www.revolution-games.com
Time to roll for a sanity check.
 
2014-02-14 11:27:32 PM  
OH, YOU'RE A SMARTASS WITH YOUR MOUTH SHUT!!
 
2014-02-14 11:28:46 PM  

2wolves: Hopefully the story arc won't involve Twin Peaks-like demon spirit that jump from person to person.


Wasn't that Fallen?
 
2014-02-14 11:31:30 PM  
I just watched it this week.  Amazing show.  I owe you farkers for cluing me in to it.  Is it just this one season like a mini-series?  I can't really see them continuing after this story arc.
 
2014-02-14 11:38:12 PM  

elguerodiablo: I just watched it this week.  Amazing show.  I owe you farkers for cluing me in to it.  Is it just this one season like a mini-series?  I can't really see them continuing after this story arc.


I think (my wife may have told me?) they're doing something a la American Horror Story - a separate story each season.  Not sure if they'll have returning actors like AHS or not.
 
2014-02-14 11:38:26 PM  

elguerodiablo: I just watched it this week.  Amazing show.  I owe you farkers for cluing me in to it.  Is it just this one season like a mini-series?  I can't really see them continuing after this story arc.


They are already planning the second season. It's going to be like American Horror Story except more extreme, totally reboot the story/characters at the start of the next season.

http://screencrush.com/hbo-true-detective-season-2-renewal-nic-pizzo la tto-2015/
 
2014-02-14 11:41:04 PM  
Yeah, that show's ok. All the adulation for it though...it's not exactly justified.
 
2014-02-14 11:41:42 PM  

ZMugg: 2wolves: Hopefully the story arc won't involve Twin Peaks-like demon spirit that jump from person to person.

Wasn't that Fallen?


Time is on my side. Yes it is.

Don't forget...
www.moviegoods.com

/can't wait for this week's episode.
//thanks for the link subs
 
2014-02-14 11:43:14 PM  

kasmel: Yeah, that show's ok. All the adulation for it though...it's not exactly justified.


cdn.uproxx.com
 
2014-02-14 11:48:30 PM  
Now I has a sad that Fark doesn't support the output of the Zalgo text generator.
 
2014-02-14 11:57:12 PM  
don't worry, farkingismybusiness, i'm sure it was just a reference to another good show

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2014-02-14 11:58:05 PM  

farkingismybusiness: kasmel: Yeah, that show's ok. All the adulation for it though...it's not exactly justified.


I guess it's the wrong day to troll...

I was assured nothing was obscure on fark.

http://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/justifi e d/s01/&sa=U&ei=uPL-UqeCMMKHogS6i4LgCw&ved=0CAsQFjAA&sig2=ekgm1EPtG6GkR gSIpT9oqA&usg=AFQjCNFYms9t2VVZKGr_fuTtgVGVUwAnAQ

/No linky from phone
 
2014-02-14 11:58:20 PM  

farkingismybusiness: kasmel: Yeah, that show's ok. All the adulation for it though...it's not exactly justified.

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wait are you saying Justified sucks?
yes True Detectives is amazing but Justified has more than 4 episodes of awesome to fall back on.
 
2014-02-15 12:00:43 AM  

davynelson: don't worry, farkingismybusiness, i'm sure it was just a reference to another good show

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it would seem my work is done, and better fashion.
 
2014-02-15 12:02:13 AM  

ZMugg: 2wolves: Hopefully the story arc won't involve Twin Peaks-like demon spirit that jump from person to person.

Wasn't that Fallen?


Fire Walk with Me was '92
 
2014-02-15 12:02:56 AM  

kasmel: Yeah, that show's ok. All the adulation for it though...it's not exactly justified.


You're either trolling or not very smart.  It's one of the best-constructed things I've seen on TV

For the rest of you: if you rewatch it, watch what Cohle is doing with his hands before Hart comes in in the "You don't mow another man's lawn" scene
 
2014-02-15 12:05:27 AM  
Good acting and an intriguing plot. But it doesn't really hold together and relies on the viewer keeping track of far too many plot threads. It's alright, but it's too much work. Like Twin Peaks, without the compelling weirdness.
 
2014-02-15 12:08:27 AM  
I've picked up on some Stephen King references also. Amazing show. The last 6 minutes of the lastest episode was mind-blowing.
 
2014-02-15 12:08:28 AM  
Didn't catch that as I've never watched Justified.

/Carry on!
 
2014-02-15 12:10:26 AM  

Dwight_Yeast: For the rest of you: if you rewatch it, watch what Cohle is doing with his hands before Hart comes in in the "You don't mow another man's lawn" scene


What did he do? I've already seen that episode a few times and don't really have time right now.

/did he pull a Munsen?
 
2014-02-15 12:12:27 AM  

whatshisname: But it doesn't really hold together and relies on the viewer keeping track of far too many plot threads.


It holds together fine as far as I can tell so far. But we only know part of the story.

And complaining that a TV show makes you work too hard to keep up with it says more about your skills as a viewer, not any fault of the show.
 
2014-02-15 12:13:40 AM  
Cohle= Chole: in classical antiquity there was "yellow bile" which represented aggression and "black bile" which represented depression.

Martin Hart: A Martin is a bird, a Hart is a deer.  Marty is out of control like an animal it's just that he doesn't even know it.  He's in total denial.
 
2014-02-15 12:14:07 AM  

farkingismybusiness: What did he do? I've already seen that episode a few times and don't really have time right now.


Right before Hart suggests that he stay for dinner (ie, leave) we see his hands: he's making making the same sort of figure he makes out of the beer cans in the interview out of a paper napkin.  It's not close to finished, but you can see what it's going to be once you've seen the reveal later in the episode.

Also: they've already told us who's responsible for the killings, and it's not the meth cook and it's not Cohle.
 
2014-02-15 12:14:42 AM  

steverockson: Cohle= Chole: in classical antiquity there was "yellow bile" which represented aggression and "black bile" which represented depression.

Martin Hart: A Martin is a bird, a Hart is a deer.  Marty is out of control like an animal it's just that he doesn't even know it.  He's in total denial.


Meant to say Cohle= Chole which means "bile".
 
2014-02-15 12:15:55 AM  

Dwight_Yeast: farkingismybusiness: What did he do? I've already seen that episode a few times and don't really have time right now.

Right before Hart suggests that he stay for dinner (ie, leave) we see his hands: he's making making the same sort of figure he makes out of the beer cans in the interview out of a paper napkin.  It's not close to finished, but you can see what it's going to be once you've seen the reveal later in the episode.

Also: they've already told us who's responsible for the killings, and it's not the meth cook and it's not Cohle.


I haven't quite figured it out but I imagine it has something to do with Tuttle Ministries.
 
2014-02-15 12:17:49 AM  

Dwight_Yeast: farkingismybusiness: What did he do? I've already seen that episode a few times and don't really have time right now.

Right before Hart suggests that he stay for dinner (ie, leave) we see his hands: he's making making the same sort of figure he makes out of the beer cans in the interview out of a paper napkin.  It's not close to finished, but you can see what it's going to be once you've seen the reveal later in the episode.

Also: they've already told us who's responsible for the killings, and it's not the meth cook and it's not Cohle.


Damn it. I just know I'm going to marathon this season once it's all over. So many little details.
 
2014-02-15 12:17:59 AM  

farkingismybusiness: Didn't catch that as I've never watched Justified.

/Carry on!


I actually haven't seen True Detective.

But...yeah, Justified is easily among the best made shows I've ever seen. It doesn't get as much attention as it should.

Check out the RT ratings for the seasons. It's worth a look if you haven't yet.

I'll probably be checking out True Detective pretty soon.
 
2014-02-15 12:18:16 AM  

Confabulat: whatshisname: But it doesn't really hold together and relies on the viewer keeping track of far too many plot threads.

It holds together fine as far as I can tell so far. But we only know part of the story.

And complaining that a TV show makes you work too hard to keep up with it says more about your skills as a viewer, not any fault of the show.


I enjoyed Twin Peaks and I prefer the sort of movies that make you think. This show just seems to be throwing shiat against the wall to make itself seem clever. The acting is great. The photography is very good. The story is fragmented and difficult for the sake of being difficult.
 
2014-02-15 12:19:01 AM  

kasmel: farkingismybusiness: Didn't catch that as I've never watched Justified.

/Carry on!

I actually haven't seen True Detective.

But...yeah, Justified is easily among the best made shows I've ever seen. It doesn't get as much attention as it should.

Check out the RT ratings for the seasons. It's worth a look if you haven't yet.

I'll probably be checking out True Detective pretty soon.


I've never seen it, but I am a fan of Timothy Olyphant.
 
2014-02-15 12:19:59 AM  

steverockson: I haven't quite figured it out but I imagine it has something to do with Tuttle Ministries.


Maybe tangentially.  It also has to do with the task force and a lot of other things that don't seem important at the moment.  It's just that the way they dropped it in was so blatant that everyone missed it.
 
2014-02-15 12:21:51 AM  

Dwight_Yeast: steverockson: I haven't quite figured it out but I imagine it has something to do with Tuttle Ministries.

Maybe tangentially.  It also has to do with the task force and a lot of other things that don't seem important at the moment.  It's just that the way they dropped it in was so blatant that everyone missed it.


Dammit, now I have to re-watch them all! Ha!
 
2014-02-15 12:23:38 AM  

steverockson: Dammit, now I have to re-watch them all! Ha!


I'll give you a hint: it's something we're told the meth cook said.
 
2014-02-15 12:24:30 AM  

Dwight_Yeast: steverockson: Dammit, now I have to re-watch them all! Ha!

I'll give you a hint: it's something we're told the meth cook said.


Noted. Thanks.
 
2014-02-15 12:26:56 AM  

Dwight_Yeast: steverockson: Dammit, now I have to re-watch them all! Ha!

I'll give you a hint: it's something we're told the meth cook said.


By who? Charlie Lange?

/just go ahead and spoil it (as long as it's your theory). I'm drunk and probably won't remember.
 
2014-02-15 12:33:03 AM  

farkingismybusiness: By who? Charlie Lange?


Yup.

He says that there's a Satanic cult practicing human sacrifice deep in the woods in Louisiana.  It sounds so much like drug-addled nonsense, but it's the one thing that connects all the dots on the show so far.  The only thing it doesn't explain is what causes the split between Hart and Cohle.
 
2014-02-15 12:36:03 AM  

Dwight_Yeast: farkingismybusiness: By who? Charlie Lange?

Yup.

He says that there's a Satanic cult practicing human sacrifice deep in the woods in Louisiana.  It sounds so much like drug-addled nonsense, but it's the one thing that connects all the dots on the show so far.  The only thing it doesn't explain is what causes the split between Hart and Cohle.


The split between Hart and Cohle comes seven years later though. They had only been working together 3 months when they got this case.
 
2014-02-15 12:40:42 AM  

Dwight_Yeast: farkingismybusiness: By who? Charlie Lange?

Yup.


I think Theriot still has something to do with this.

As for Charlie Lange, I really liked that actor. Checked out his history because he seemed familiar. Turns out he's been in about a dozen of familiar commercials.

/no one ever pays me in gum...
 
2014-02-15 12:50:23 AM  

farkingismybusiness: I think Theriot still has something to do with this.


I think a lot of characters we've seen, especially the good "Christian" ones are involved.  Remember that 1992 was the height of the who Satanic Cults are everywhere nonsense.  I think the basis of this season is: what if they were?
 
2014-02-15 12:52:01 AM  

Dwight_Yeast: farkingismybusiness: By who? Charlie Lange?

Yup.

He says that there's a Satanic cult practicing human sacrifice deep in the woods in Louisiana.  It sounds so much like drug-addled nonsense, but it's the one thing that connects all the dots on the show so far.  The only thing it doesn't explain is what causes the split between Hart and Cohle.


i just watched that part again.  He said they were rich men too and they had a spiral brand to mark them like the victims had.  I'm thinking the preacher is the leader of the cult.
 
2014-02-15 12:59:04 AM  

elguerodiablo: i just watched that part again. He said they were rich men too and they had a spiral brand to mark them like the victims had. I'm thinking the preacher is the leader of the cult.


I think it's the governor.
 
2014-02-15 01:05:35 AM  

Dwight_Yeast: elguerodiablo: i just watched that part again. He said they were rich men too and they had a spiral brand to mark them like the victims had. I'm thinking the preacher is the leader of the cult.

I think it's the governor.


Gov's brother.
 
2014-02-15 01:18:05 AM  

twistedmetal: Dwight_Yeast: elguerodiablo: i just watched that part again. He said they were rich men too and they had a spiral brand to mark them like the victims had. I'm thinking the preacher is the leader of the cult.

I think it's the governor.

Gov's brother.


Was he the one that showed up at the police station in the first episode? Then yes.
 
2014-02-15 04:31:28 AM  

Dwight_Yeast: twistedmetal: Dwight_Yeast: elguerodiablo: i just watched that part again. He said they were rich men too and they had a spiral brand to mark them like the victims had. I'm thinking the preacher is the leader of the cult.

I think it's the governor.

Gov's brother.

Was he the one that showed up at the police station in the first episode? Then yes.


Thats him.

I'm thinking the preacher is a middle manager in the entire operation. Either the brother or the Governor is the actual big fish. I could see it going either way, with the brother in the early lead.

Just watched the first 4 episodes in two days (stupid ass work schedule prevented all 4 in a day). The 1st episode started a little slow (which is to be expected). It picked up steam fast. Now I need my fix.
 
2014-02-15 08:04:51 AM  
Love the show. I had never paid attention to Matthew McHoweverYouSpellHisName, but this performance instantly changed my mind about his acting abilities.

I thought there was something off about the way the preacher made the sign of the cross (and I'm not a religious person), and throwing the murmuration in at the burned out church was pretty slick.

The opening credit sequence is fantastic, too.
 
2014-02-15 08:18:53 AM  
I don't think evangelicals cross themselves. I don't think anyone but Catholics do.

That's interesting. I hadn't caught that before!
 
2014-02-15 08:21:06 AM  
I should also add that the King in Yellow is on Project Gutenberg.

I'm reading it now and it's quite good.
 
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