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2014-02-14 05:19:51 PM

The_Sponge: twistedmetal: Why people willingly go to Dubai, other than to flaunt wealth and keep out the poors, is lost on me.


I'm going there in May....only because I have an overnight layover, and I really wanted to fly first class on Emirates.  (Took a shiatload of airline miles.)

Anyone have any travel tips/recommendations?  Unfortunately, I land at midnight and leave at 9AM the next morning.


Extend your stay?
:)
Really, if you land 12am, meaning you'll probably be leaving the airport around 1:30-2am and have to be back by 7am for your 9am flight?
That in all practicality leaves you with 5 hours...in the middle of the night.
So really, I can't imagine what you can do there if you aren't extending your stay. Talk to the airline. If you are traveling first class they might put you up for an extra night or at least arrange for a decent discount.
Traveling 1st class on Emirates is gonna rock. Especially if you are talking about the a380 where you get YOUR OWN ROOM. Complete with shower.
So yeah, I would recommend the airport room unless you can extend your stay.

The UAE in general and Dubai in particular are hitting the world stage whether you like it or not. The question is just how long it will take you to recognize that.
The country ranks 14 in the world happiness index.
Ranks 1 in so many different ratings for the MENA region (Middle East & North Africa).
Here, I found a link:
http://www.ecc.ae/competitiveness/uae -current-standing
It had regional and global rankings, including gender gap.

Re: slave labor, I will be the first person to tell you that the laborers don't live a rosy life, but did you ever stop to ask yourself why more and more keep moving to Dubai? If they were forced into slavery, don't you think news would get around? Reach their home country and people would stop going there?
The UAE's 8 million population is made up of at least 80% foreigners.

Yes, you can hold your wife's hand in public. Kissing hello/goodbye is rarely even worth a second glance. French-kissing however will get you the "get a room" glare and/or security asking you to get a room.

Some fairly recent shows that happened in the UAE range from Cirque de Soliel to the Russian Ballet to Wayan brothers standup.
World concert tours seem to have made the country one of the stops.

The country is host to the international renewable energy agency IRENA and is hosting the world expo for 2020.

So like I said, sooner or later you'll have to ask yourself, "really, what's up with this country that I keep hearing about that is probably half the size of state?"

Talk to people who have visited. Look up videos on YouTube. Like all things in life, educate yourself.

/getting a kick
//paid shill
///slashies of the desert
 
2014-02-14 05:21:50 PM
Damn, well played. HOTY contender.
 
2014-02-14 05:39:52 PM

twistedmetal: Oh yeah, where you headed?



I'm flying from Prague to Dubai, spend the night, and then it's Dubai to Seattle.


Resident Muslim: Extend your stay?
:)
Really, if you land 12am, meaning you'll probably be leaving the airport around 1:30-2am and have to be back by 7am for your 9am flight?
That in all practicality leaves you with 5 hours...in the middle of the night.
So really, I can't imagine what you can do there if you aren't extending your stay. Talk to the airline. If you are traveling first class they might put you up for an extra night or at least arrange for a decent discount.
Traveling 1st class on Emirates is gonna rock. Especially if you are talking about the a380 where you get YOUR OWN ROOM. Complete with shower.
So yeah, I would recommend the airport room unless you can extend your stay.



I'll try to extend my stay, but since I booked it using miles, I might have to pay a steep service fee.

Unfortunately, I won't be on an A230.....I'm flying from Prague to Dubai in first class on a 777....but I think they have the first class suites on that flight.  The next day, I will be in business class on my flight to Seattle.

Also, I would like to thank Emirates for only charging $80 in fees when I booked that leg of the trip.  I'm flying over to Prague on British Airways, and they charged me $500.
 
2014-02-14 05:42:10 PM

HairBolus: twistedmetal: Why people willingly go to Dubai, other than to flaunt wealth and keep out the poors, is lost on me.

According to McMafia, Dubai (along with Israel) has become a world headquarters for organized crime - there aren't necessarily a huge number of rackets running in Dubai but many global rackets are run from there.

[www.bodleyhead.co.uk image 420x300]

TV's Vinnie: I wonder why Al Qaeda never pulls any of their shenanigans in Dubai? Are they being paid "protection money" or does the Dubia govt. secretly support terrorism so long as it doesn't happen in their little fairyland of a nation?

See above.



McMafia's marker for Canada needs to move north, eh?
 
2014-02-14 05:43:08 PM

vudukungfu: FarkingReading: What's wrong with saying "jungle people"?

They are exactly the opposite.
they live in a desert.

I used jungle on a whim and chose a geography that is the polar opposite, and the only name I mentioned was Tar-Zan, a fictional White man.

Somehow that got construed as racist.

I don't have a problem with race. 
I have a problem with savages.

People that run around chopping off other peoples heads, buying and selling people, tossing acid in other peoples faces. The nomadic new east. Salt of the desert. You know. Assholes.


Any citation that you have of people running around chopping off heads, buying and selling people and throwing acid in peoples faces in Dubai that you'd like to share?
 
2014-02-14 06:04:59 PM
Tres (Small Town) Chic:

i936.photobucket.com
 
2014-02-14 09:17:19 PM

Nexzus: InterruptingQuirk: Approves

[www.wearysloth.com image 320x240]

Is that Jamie Farr?


yep, from Cannonball Run.
 
2014-02-14 09:35:02 PM

The_Sponge: twistedmetal: Oh yeah, where you headed?


I'm flying from Prague to Dubai, spend the night, and then it's Dubai to Seattle.



You're flying Emirates just for the sake of flying Emirates huh?

Don't worry. I want to do the same thing.

Resident Muslim: The_Sponge: twistedmetal: Why people willingly go to Dubai, other than to flaunt wealth and keep out the poors, is lost on me.


I'm going there in May....only because I have an overnight layover, and I really wanted to fly first class on Emirates.  (Took a shiatload of airline miles.)

Anyone have any travel tips/recommendations?  Unfortunately, I land at midnight and leave at 9AM the next morning.

Extend your stay?
:)
Really, if you land 12am, meaning you'll probably be leaving the airport around 1:30-2am and have to be back by 7am for your 9am flight?
That in all practicality leaves you with 5 hours...in the middle of the night.
So really, I can't imagine what you can do there if you aren't extending your stay. Talk to the airline. If you are traveling first class they might put you up for an extra night or at least arrange for a decent discount.
Traveling 1st class on Emirates is gonna rock. Especially if you are talking about the a380 where you get YOUR OWN ROOM. Complete with shower.
So yeah, I would recommend the airport room unless you can extend your stay.

The UAE in general and Dubai in particular are hitting the world stage whether you like it or not. The question is just how long it will take you to recognize that.
The country ranks 14 in the world happiness index.
Ranks 1 in so many different ratings for the MENA region (Middle East & North Africa).
Here, I found a link:
http://www.ecc.ae/competitiveness/uae -current-standing
It had regional and global rankings, including gender gap.

Re: slave labor, I will be the first person to tell you that the laborers don't live a rosy life, but did you ever stop to ask yourself why more and more keep moving to Dubai? If they were forced into slavery, don't you think news would get around? Reach their home country and people would stop going there?
The UAE's 8 million population is made up of at least 80% foreigners.

Yes, you can hold your wife's hand in public. Kissing hello/goodbye is rarely even worth a seco ...


Dubai is a weird place. It really wants to portray itself as Western but it seems very reluctant to give up its own traditions which sometimes conflict with those in the West. What makes it all the more interesting is that now "expats" are the majority in the UAE.

Just look at how the news there covers local events, no matter how banal the story, if it invovles Sheikh Mohammed bin Rashid Al Maktoum or one of the other Sheikh's in the UAE, they make sure that it's the top story. Gulf News is guilty of the same thing. I think they do a better job of covering other countries than the fluff they cover in the UAE.

I recognize that it's a different place from the West, but it's really interesting seeing places like UAE and Qatar try to come off as Western yet maintain their same traditions.
 
2014-02-14 10:05:53 PM

misanthropic1: Much like in America, the rules don't apply to the wealthy.


Apparently they apply to visiting foreigners.  That would really be a problem for any sort of "fashion show".
 
2014-02-14 10:35:26 PM

flondrix: misanthropic1: Much like in America, the rules don't apply to the wealthy.

Apparently they apply to visiting foreigners.  That would really be a problem for any sort of "fashion show".


Much like anywhere else, Dubai would look the other way if you have the right connections.
 
2014-02-14 10:46:25 PM

Mrtraveler01: You're flying Emirates just for the sake of flying Emirates huh?

Don't worry. I want to do the same thing.



Pretty much....but the fact that the taxes and fees were far less than British Airways sealed the deal.  (Granted, I had to spend more miles, but what the hell.)

Plus, I just like the fact that I'm adding a new continent and country to my travel history.

So when do you plan on flying with them?
 
2014-02-15 12:02:27 AM

Resident Muslim: Any citation that you have of people running around chopping off heads, buying and selling people and throwing acid in peoples faces in Dubai that you'd like to share?


Before you go all "this is an outrage "
And "Alalalalalalalalal"
And Allah Akbar"
And "boom"

They  fund that shiat.
So does the CIA.
 
2014-02-15 12:44:58 AM

The_Sponge: So when do you plan on flying with them?


Not sure. It's more one of those, "some day" kind of things and not something concrete.

I want to fly on Qatar Airways for the same reason.
 
2014-02-15 01:00:38 AM

vudukungfu: Resident Muslim: Any citation that you have of people running around chopping off heads, buying and selling people and throwing acid in peoples faces in Dubai that you'd like to share?

Before you go all "this is an outrage "
And "Alalalalalalalalal"
And Allah Akbar"
And "boom"

They  fund that shiat.
So does the CIA.


you know, for a usually level-headed regular at Fark whose comments I enjoy reading, I'm surprised that that's your response.
Saddened actually.

One of the reasons the UAE has actually managed to stay as safe as it is in a region full of turmoil by keeping its citizens comfortable and generally staying out of other people's issues.

It HAS become an economic hub. The only question is that will it ever become the innovation hub it aspires to be.


And yeah, alalalalalala, this is an outrage!!
:)
 
2014-02-15 01:01:05 AM
There is booze in dubai.

Go to.jumaiyra beach place (JBR), you will think you are in miami beach. Booze and eastern european hookers everywhere.

You will see people wearing everything from short dresses to the niqab in the,malls.

It is NOT what you see on TV.

And yeah, there are slums. Not unlike in the countries the workers come from.
 
2014-02-15 01:14:58 AM

Resident Muslim: vudukungfu: Resident Muslim: Any citation that you have of people running around chopping off heads, buying and selling people and throwing acid in peoples faces in Dubai that you'd like to share?

Before you go all "this is an outrage "
And "Alalalalalalalalal"
And Allah Akbar"
And "boom"

They  fund that shiat.
So does the CIA.

you know, for a usually level-headed regular at Fark whose comments I enjoy reading, I'm surprised that that's your response.
Saddened actually.

One of the reasons the UAE has actually managed to stay as safe as it is in a region full of turmoil by keeping its citizens comfortable and generally staying out of other people's issues.

It HAS become an economic hub. The only question is that will it ever become the innovation hub it aspires to be.


And yeah, alalalalalala, this is an outrage!!
:)


Is Dubai trying to be the Las Vegas of the Middle East? I'll probably never go there, because I'm not rich by any means, but are they really targeting Westerners for a tourist destination? Long story short, can I get hookers and blow if I go there? (Without getting my head chopped off...kidding..sort of.)
 
2014-02-15 04:08:07 AM

vudukungfu: FarkingReading: What's wrong with saying "jungle people"?

They are exactly the opposite.
they live in a desert.

I used jungle on a whim and chose a geography that is the polar opposite, and the only name I mentioned was Tar-Zan, a fictional White man.

Somehow that got construed as racist.

I don't have a problem with race. 
I have a problem with savages.

People that run around chopping off other peoples heads, buying and selling people, tossing acid in other peoples faces. The nomadic new east. Salt of the desert. You know. Assholes.


I made Gene Wilder's face.
 
2014-02-15 12:57:50 PM
Ahhh shiat! You people are crazy. Dubai isn't more farked up than than so many other places. People are friendly here. It's easy to get laid. The night scene is fun. Bur Dubai is an older part of the city that actually has a soul. The Philipino ladies love to fark and the Arab women will fark your mind and your wallet but they are still fun too. Certain things are cheap. The beaches are cool. The winters are amazing. Sweet hotel apartments in Abu Dhabi or Dubai are like $60 a night. The Emiratis are naughty as shiat. People are low-profile in their behavior. Everyone is naughty as shiat and everyone knows it so there is a nice understanding and vibe. The desert is gorgeous. I'm from Portland, Oregon. I'm a hipster. I hate everything, but I definitely don't hate my life in the Emirates. Being a white American I'm like number two in the pecking order here so it's good to be close to the king, but I meet content people from Asian sub-continent all the time. I think the UAE gets a bad rap like Nike did because they were exposed first but have also improved labor laws. I'm not saying this place isn't a total fraud and facade and there aren't human rights issues happening, I'm just saying that this is a city with good and bad just like everywhere. I lived in Vietnam for a while and the suffering and corruption there pales in comparison to the suffereing here. Of course nobody back home (other than overseas vietnamese) talks shiat about Vietnam like they do about the Emirates but they probably should. It's fun here.
 
2014-02-15 01:50:45 PM
Fark em. I will never step foot in that country, I have too many nice countries too visit before I go too their lawless (well unless you are well connected) society.  The country stinks/shiek'n's - it has slaves, it has debtor prisons, you cannot kiss someone, you cannot stay in a hotel with someone you are not married too (unless they are the same sex as you, then you might get away with it, unless they arrest you for same sex activities), they have almost no separation of state/church, although come to think of it the people themselves have very little power unless they are of the special class.  It is a haven for some scary type groups and their money ...
 
2014-02-15 01:55:09 PM

EmmaLou: The_Sponge: twistedmetal: Why people willingly go to Dubai, other than to flaunt wealth and keep out the poors, is lost on me.


I'm going there in May....only because I have an overnight layover, and I really wanted to fly first class on Emirates.  (Took a shiatload of airline miles.)

Anyone have any travel tips/recommendations?  Unfortunately, I land at midnight and leave at 9AM the next morning.

I don't know if it's all flights, but on my connection to Dulles in Dubai, they physically searched all carry ons.

Also, the airport is all kinds of confusing and the airport employees don't seem to know wtf they're talking about.

Great food though.

Our lay over was 5 hours from 9 pm to 2 am and that was about enough to find our way around and get something to eat.


Don't have any little pieces of dirt in you bags!  My mate had a little (very little) pebble or something in his backpack -> over 4 months in jail because they claimed it was hash (only because big peeps got involved did he get let out and is never allowed to return ... as if he would want too!)
 
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