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(Talking Points Memo)   McCain: I'm not saying Ted Cruz is ruining the GOP but we're actually powering GOP HQ with the power of Barry Goldwater spinning in his grave   (talkingpointsmemo.com ) divider line
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2014-02-14 09:30:45 AM  
That ship sailed, went around the world a couple times, and weighed anchor at the Republican convention where you picked Sarah Palin as your running mate.
 
2014-02-14 09:31:38 AM  
The Wall Street Journal editorial McCain posted to Twitter argues that Cruz's objection to voting with a simple majority, which forced GOP leaders to vote to raise the debt limit, could hurt the re-election prospects of senators facing primary challengers from the right. Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell's Tea Party opponent Matt Bevin quickly criticized the the Kentucky Republican after he voted for cloture on the bill.

I am amused.
 
2014-02-14 09:32:29 AM  

meat0918: That ship sailed, went around the world a couple times, and weighed anchor at the Republican convention where you picked Sarah Palin as your running mate.


ALL ABOARD THE SS CRAZYPANTS. TOOT! TOOT!
 
2014-02-14 09:33:44 AM  
The Donners got nuthin' on today's GOP.
 
2014-02-14 09:44:46 AM  
If Republicans fail again this November, a big reason will be their rump kamikaze caucus.

It's hard to believe Republicans has such a hard time with youth outreach when they use such hip, with-it slang.
 
2014-02-14 09:45:27 AM  
John, you introduced the world to Sarah Palin, who is basically a gateway drug to the derp that is the tea party. Fark you
 
2014-02-14 09:50:08 AM  
Well....Cruz is actually a lunatic, so...there's that.
 
2014-02-14 09:56:47 AM  

meat0918: That ship sailed, went around the world a couple times, and weighed anchor at the Republican convention where you picked Sarah Palin as your running mate.


Peter von Nostrand: John, you introduced the world to Sarah Palin, who is basically a gateway drug to the derp that is the tea party. Fark you


Seriously.  "This man is a crazier, more dangerous version of the person I picked to be second in command.  Watch out for him!"
 
2014-02-14 10:02:15 AM  

Diogenes: meat0918: That ship sailed, went around the world a couple times, and weighed anchor at the Republican convention where you picked Sarah Palin as your running mate.

Peter von Nostrand: John, you introduced the world to Sarah Palin, who is basically a gateway drug to the derp that is the tea party. Fark you

Seriously.  "This man is a crazier, more dangerous version of the person I picked to be second in command.  Watch out for him!"


in his defense, he's probably getting senile like ol' Ronnie was. I'm impressed he hasn't announced he won't seek reelection next term
 
2014-02-14 10:04:30 AM  

somedude210: in his defense, he's probably getting senile like ol' Ronnie was. I'm impressed he hasn't announced he won't seek reelection next term


I just kind of assumed.  But you never know with him.

And I'm not being mean when I say this - I think he won't live long once he leaves office.  He'll be one of those people who goes downhill rapidly after retiring.  He won't deal well without what he sees as his purpose.
 
2014-02-14 10:06:19 AM  
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The monster turns on it's creator...
 
2014-02-14 10:11:03 AM  

Diogenes: Peter von Nostrand: John, you introduced the world to Sarah Palin, who is basically a gateway drug to the derp that is the tea party. Fark you

Seriously. "This man is a crazier, more dangerous version of the person I picked to be second in command. Watch out for him!"


I can't take McCain seriously because his - and his staff's - recklessness is the reason our country is in such goddamned turmoil at all times. Palin started all of this shiat.  Nobody ever would have known or cared about her if he didn't catapult her to fame without so much as vetting how farking insane she is.  All because they thought women would vote for any woman, because we were all so upset that Hillary Clinton didn't get nominated. It was really a defining moment of showing how little they think of women.
 
2014-02-14 10:18:02 AM  
Old man experiences rare lucid moment

/it happens occasionally
//he'll be back to normal soon
 
2014-02-14 10:21:37 AM  

serpent_sky: Diogenes: Peter von Nostrand: John, you introduced the world to Sarah Palin, who is basically a gateway drug to the derp that is the tea party. Fark you

Seriously. "This man is a crazier, more dangerous version of the person I picked to be second in command. Watch out for him!"

I can't take McCain seriously because his - and his staff's - recklessness is the reason our country is in such goddamned turmoil at all times. Palin started all of this shiat.  Nobody ever would have known or cared about her if he didn't catapult her to fame without so much as vetting how farking insane she is.  All because they thought women would vote for any woman, because we were all so upset that Hillary Clinton didn't get nominated. It was really a defining moment of showing how little they think of women.


You should have seen how apoplectic it made my very racist grandmother.  "Great, now I have to vote for the ni-BONG.   What woman would she appeal to? Who does he think he's fooling?"
 
2014-02-14 10:22:18 AM  

serpent_sky: Palin started all of this shiat.


Nah, Palin didn't start it. She's just a golem for the crazies.
 
2014-02-14 10:46:37 AM  
What likely happened is that the entire GOP-owning business and banking community went to Washington, abducted Boehner and McConnell, ripped their pants off and anally raped them with no lube over and over again until they 1) acknowledged who their masters were 2) agreed to tell the Tea Party to fark off. The Koch Bros were seen leaving and giving each other high fives.
 
2014-02-14 10:46:37 AM  

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Nah, Palin didn't start it. She's just a golem for the crazies.


You think? I feel like she was the first to really openly derp all over the place, and really set all of the tea party lunacy in motion.  If McCain had picked a sane running mate, I'm not sure we'd be where we are now.

I mean, the people who really can't deal with a President who isn't lily white would still be having a fit, but I don't think it would be as acceptable if she hadn't been running free during McCain's campaign.
 
2014-02-14 10:54:50 AM  

serpent_sky: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Nah, Palin didn't start it. She's just a golem for the crazies.

You think? I feel like she was the first to really openly derp all over the place, and really set all of the tea party lunacy in motion.  If McCain had picked a sane running mate, I'm not sure we'd be where we are now.

I mean, the people who really can't deal with a President who isn't lily white would still be having a fit, but I don't think it would be as acceptable if she hadn't been running free during McCain's campaign.


Perhaps it's the hindsight, but one of the target areas that Palin was supposed to appeal to was the right wing of the GOP, as McCain was seen as too much of a "moderate" for the crazies.

I won't argue that once she was unleashed upon the nation-wide political consciousness that she didn't give a louder voice to the crazies.
 
2014-02-14 11:00:29 AM  
John "I may have singlehandedly ruined the GOP with Sarah Palin as my VP Pick" McCain is upset that Ted Cruz is ruining the GOP?

Oh John, you cantankerous twit, you.
 
2014-02-14 11:01:54 AM  
Lemme see if I have this straight...

The Wall Street Journal editorial McCain posted to Twitter argues that Cruz's objection to voting with a simple majority, which forced GOP leaders to vote to raise the debt limit, could hurt the re-election prospects of senators facing primary challengers from the right

So, McCain is angry that Cruz forced GOP senators to vote like sane people, which will hurt them with their base?

Yeah, that fits with the GOP I know.
 
2014-02-14 11:02:32 AM  

sigdiamond2000: If Republicans fail again this November, a big reason will be their rump kamikaze caucus.

It's hard to believe Republicans has such a hard time with youth outreach when they use such hip, with-it slang.


Oh they used to be with-it.  Then someone changed what "it" was.  Now what they're with isn't "it".  And what *is* "it" seems weird and scary to them.
 
2014-02-14 11:02:42 AM  

sigdiamond2000: If Republicans fail again this November, a big reason will be their rump kamikaze caucus.


Isn't that the new single from the guys who brought us "Bear Force One"?
 
2014-02-14 11:02:44 AM  
fark you, McCain.

"That jerk Cruz forced us to actually vote for a bill that we agree has to pass for the good of the country but we didn't want to vote for because voting for it will piss off the idiots in our party/base."
 
2014-02-14 11:03:40 AM  

Diogenes: somedude210: in his defense, he's probably getting senile like ol' Ronnie was. I'm impressed he hasn't announced he won't seek reelection next term

I just kind of assumed.  But you never know with him.

And I'm not being mean when I say this - I think he won't live long once he leaves office.  He'll be one of those people who goes downhill rapidly after retiring.  He won't deal well without what he sees as his purpose.


That's the sad part. When the half-sane elder statesmen of the Republican party finally leave, there will be only snake oil salesmen and derpy true believers left. At least McCain has a sense of decorum, and seems to earnestly and honestly give a sh*t about the fate of the country.
 
2014-02-14 11:03:56 AM  
this is just Democrat propaganda designed to distract from their own massive self-destructive civil war.
 
2014-02-14 11:04:16 AM  

PC LOAD LETTER: The Koch Bros were seen leaving and giving each other high fives.


And wiping their dicks on the curtains.
 
2014-02-14 11:04:55 AM  

Weaver95: Well....Cruz is actually a lunatic, so...there's that.


It's much better if you see him as a performance artist who is caricaturizing Joe McCarthy in an attempt to humiliate the Republican Party.
 
2014-02-14 11:06:11 AM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Old man experiences rare lucid moment

/it happens occasionally

//he'll be back to normal soon

i47.photobucket.com
 
2014-02-14 11:06:52 AM  
Hey, let's cut McCain some slack. Even if he didn't do it on purpose, introducing Sarah Palin (and thus, the Teabaggers) to the world has sent the GOP into its death spiral. And that's good for America, in the long run.

The GOP has been absolutely worthless and destructive as a political party since at least Reagan. It needs to go.
 
2014-02-14 11:07:41 AM  
Not that I disagree with the sentiment, but Goldwater started spinning before he died. He'd be right at home with the RAND PAUL wing - "unshackle" business and keep our military adventures to a minimum - but was always very uncomfortable with the "preachers" in the GOP.
 
2014-02-14 11:09:28 AM  

Diogenes: somedude210: in his defense, he's probably getting senile like ol' Ronnie was. I'm impressed he hasn't announced he won't seek reelection next term

I just kind of assumed.  But you never know with him.

And I'm not being mean when I say this - I think he won't live long once he leaves office.  He'll be one of those people who goes downhill rapidly after retiring.  He won't deal well without what he sees as his purpose.


You may be right, on the other hand his mother is still alive.
 
2014-02-14 11:10:16 AM  
i.imgur.com
 
2014-02-14 11:10:55 AM  
The historical revisionism surrounding Goldwater is appalling. He may have been hostile to the fundamentalists, but he was still a dangerous nut who made Reagan appear palatable by comparison.
 
2014-02-14 11:13:40 AM  

UberDave: sigdiamond2000: If Republicans fail again this November, a big reason will be their rump kamikaze caucus.

It's hard to believe Republicans has such a hard time with youth outreach when they use such hip, with-it slang.

Oh they used to be with-it.  Then someone changed what "it" was.  Now what they're with isn't "it".  And what *is* "it" seems weird and scary to them.



Dammit.  I know what that's from but can't remember.

Little help?

Wait--is it from something?!

Help!
 
2014-02-14 11:14:47 AM  
sigdiamond2000: If Republicans fail again this November, a big reason will be their rump kamikaze caucus.

Wow.  That phrase (FTA, I assume?) conjures up a mental image that is going to take a whole 55 gallon drum of mindbleach...

Perfectly consistent with today's GOTP, you understand, but repellent, abhorent, and horrifically disgusting, nonetheless.
 
2014-02-14 11:14:57 AM  
Forcing the GOP to put their votes on record is ruining the GOP.
 
2014-02-14 11:15:23 AM  

beantowndog: Diogenes: somedude210: in his defense, he's probably getting senile like ol' Ronnie was. I'm impressed he hasn't announced he won't seek reelection next term

I just kind of assumed.  But you never know with him.

And I'm not being mean when I say this - I think he won't live long once he leaves office.  He'll be one of those people who goes downhill rapidly after retiring.  He won't deal well without what he sees as his purpose.

You may be right, on the other hand his mother is still alive.


Which is truly remarkable.  Good on her.  He'll need those genes given he has had a pretty rough life - at least in his earlier years.
 
2014-02-14 11:15:38 AM  

BMulligan: The historical revisionism surrounding Goldwater is appalling. He may have been hostile to the fundamentalists, but he was still a dangerous nut who made Reagan appear palatable by comparison.


Yeah, but he was 100% right about the preachers being a "terrible damn problem." It's some pretty tasty shadenfreude, especially since the fundies are sure that the reason they're suffering in elections is that they aren't theocratic enough. The lack of self awareness is pretty lulzy.
 
2014-02-14 11:15:40 AM  
All right.  I thought it was The Simpsons but that didn't seem correct.  Turns out it is correct.  So never mind!
 
2014-02-14 11:15:56 AM  

Cargo: UberDave: sigdiamond2000: If Republicans fail again this November, a big reason will be their rump kamikaze caucus.

It's hard to believe Republicans has such a hard time with youth outreach when they use such hip, with-it slang.

Oh they used to be with-it.  Then someone changed what "it" was.  Now what they're with isn't "it".  And what *is* "it" seems weird and scary to them.


Dammit.  I know what that's from but can't remember.

Little help?

Wait--is it from something?!

Help!


It's from Firefly. This guy said it:

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2014-02-14 11:16:18 AM  
Will McCain retire after his current term ends? He'll be 80 for goodness sakes!
 
2014-02-14 11:17:04 AM  

BMulligan: The historical revisionism surrounding Goldwater is appalling. He may have been hostile to the fundamentalists, but he was still a dangerous nut who made Reagan appear palatable by comparison.


Ask not for whom the Overton Window shifts, it shifts for thee!
 
2014-02-14 11:17:20 AM  
This is the backstory - http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/surrender-complete-gop-leaders-suppor t -debt-limit-hike

Wait, what? This happened? I didn't even know about it.

(Anyway, there were bigger things happening in my neighborhood in the last couple of days)
 
2014-02-14 11:22:30 AM  
The GOP/conservatives groups tipped the domino that was Fox's right wing media coverage. The conservative media fed the conservative base's ideological views and pushed them farther right. The right wing fringe ballooned into more of a tassel and pushed the conservative media's influence even higher.

Now the media and the fringe groups are feeding off each other in a roiling frenzy of crazy and the GOP establishment that pushed it along and considered it such an awesome thing a few years ago is getting swept under by the groups it thought it was using.

Good job, guys. Really well done.
 
2014-02-14 11:23:18 AM  

serpent_sky: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Nah, Palin didn't start it. She's just a golem for the crazies.

You think? I feel like she was the first to really openly derp all over the place,


Let me just stop you right there...

Bachmann and her husband who's so far in the closet, he has a Long Stay Visa for Narnia.

i458.photobucket.com

Katherine Harris, for those that like their crazy with a dash of history. Just imagine how much better America would be without her delusional self around.

images.scripting.com
 
2014-02-14 11:23:42 AM  

BMulligan: The historical revisionism surrounding Goldwater is appalling. He may have been hostile to the fundamentalists, but he was still a dangerous nut who made Reagan appear palatable by comparison.


No, the point is that now he would be run out of the party for being not conservative enough.
 
2014-02-14 11:24:17 AM  

sigdiamond2000: Cargo: UberDave: sigdiamond2000: If Republicans fail again this November, a big reason will be their rump kamikaze caucus.

It's hard to believe Republicans has such a hard time with youth outreach when they use such hip, with-it slang.

Oh they used to be with-it.  Then someone changed what "it" was.  Now what they're with isn't "it".  And what *is* "it" seems weird and scary to them.


Dammit.  I know what that's from but can't remember.

Little help?

Wait--is it from something?!

Help!

It's from Firefly. This guy said it:

[upload.wikimedia.org image 250x333]


Well, my jimmies are rustled.
 
2014-02-14 11:26:05 AM  

Delta1212: The GOP/conservatives groups tipped the domino that was Fox's right wing media coverage. The conservative media fed the conservative base's ideological views and pushed them farther right. The right wing fringe ballooned into more of a tassel and pushed the conservative media's influence even higher.

Now the media and the fringe groups are feeding off each other in a roiling frenzy of crazy and the GOP establishment that pushed it along and considered it such an awesome thing a few years ago is getting swept under by the groups it thought it was using.

Good job, guys. Really well done.


And the funny thing? We've been warning the GOP that it's painting itself into an ideological corner for years!

i301.photobucket.com
 
2014-02-14 11:26:16 AM  

serpent_sky: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Nah, Palin didn't start it. She's just a golem for the crazies.

You think? I feel like she was the first to really openly derp all over the place, and really set all of the tea party lunacy in motion.  If McCain had picked a sane running mate, I'm not sure we'd be where we are now.

I mean, the people who really can't deal with a President who isn't lily white would still be having a fit, but I don't think it would be as acceptable if she hadn't been running free during McCain's campaign.


Giving Palin the national spotlight of a presidential campaign definitely gave her a level of exposure and credibility that she never would have had otherwise. Oh sure, there were stupid people babbling nonsense before Palin came along, but they were relegated to sharing their views primarily with each other in trailer parks, VFW halls and gun shows.

Palin's ascendance onto the national stage gave Derp a huge PR boost, by alerting the morons in one state that there were morons in other states who shared their simplistic, cornpone attitudes about race, sexual orientation and reproductive rights.

Palin did for Derp what the internet did for pedophiles: it didn't necessarily create new pedophiles, it just made existing pedophiles feel legitimized and empowered by the fact they now knew there were others out there just like them.
 
2014-02-14 11:27:38 AM  
I actually found Palin's nomination quite helpful (terror-filled nights of wondering what might happen if she was actually elected aside).

It was very revealing to see which republican friends I had heretofore regarded as thoughtful and reasonable were of the opinion that she was not a complete idiot.

In private, at least.  You'd be surprised how many public Palin supporters were mortified at the choice in private conversation, at least in my circles.

TL;DR Palin separated the republican wheat from the chaff quite handily.
 
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