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(CBS Los Angeles 2)   California's next move in the War On Food™: Warning labels on sugary drinks. "We're talking about a public health epidemic"   (losangeles.cbslocal.com) divider line 83
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2014-02-14 01:42:31 AM
You mean they're not health food?!?
 
2014-02-14 04:48:57 AM
It was only a matter of time after we started putting warning labels on buckets.
 
2014-02-14 04:51:31 AM

ambercat: It was only a matter of time after we started putting warning labels on buckets.


www.mysafetylabels.com
 
2014-02-14 04:52:09 AM
We have an epidemic of people eating and drinking things that they already know are not good for them.

How do we stop this behavior!!
 
2014-02-14 04:52:37 AM
It's for the Children!
 
2014-02-14 04:54:41 AM
Switching from sugar to sugar-free soda is the easiest health win anyone can do. After a few weeks, you won't even notice the taste difference, like moving from full-fat milk to semi-skimmed or skimmed: you just get used to it.

I stopped drinking sugared soda a few years ago, and lost  a chunk of weight without even trying over 6 months, and I don't even drink that much soda.
 
2014-02-14 04:59:50 AM
That won't be a problem since manufactures don't use sugar anymore.
 
2014-02-14 05:08:21 AM

Bungles: Switching from sugar to sugar-free soda is the easiest health win anyone can do. After a few weeks, you won't even notice the taste difference, like moving from full-fat milk to semi-skimmed or skimmed: you just get used to it.

I stopped drinking sugared soda a few years ago, and lost  a chunk of weight without even trying over 6 months, and I don't even drink that much soda.


Why not just drink farking water?  It's essential to life.  It comes out of the goddammed tap which I think most people who are homeless and even some who are have available to them.  It doesn't taste too bad.

I still buy Coke.  It tastes good and I am so lazy it's easier to take a coke out of the fridge than to make coffee.  Delicious.

WTF would I want with "sugar free" cola?
 
2014-02-14 05:09:21 AM

generallyso: That won't be a problem since manufactures don't use sugar anymore.


Fructose is a sugar.
 
2014-02-14 05:10:14 AM

Bungles: Switching from sugar to sugar-free soda is the easiest health win anyone can do. After a few weeks, you won't even notice the taste difference, like moving from full-fat milk to semi-skimmed or skimmed: you just get used to it.

I stopped drinking sugared soda a few years ago, and lost  a chunk of weight without even trying over 6 months, and I don't even drink that much soda.


NPR just did a piece on a study that followed milk drinkers.  The low-fat & skim milk drinkers were more likely to be overweight later on in life than users of whole milk.  Not saying correlation is causation, but things are never quite as simple as black & white.

Also, fake sugar tastes absolutely disgusting.  It was easier for me to just give up soda altogether and stick with water.  Caffeine withdrawal SUCKS though.  Such headaches.
 
2014-02-14 05:10:38 AM
A significant portion of the American population is overweight and/or has diabetes. Many families are raising children in households where no one even cooks meals anymore. In essence it is being taught that fast and easy is better, and it doesn't matter at what cost. I think labels are possibly a bit extreme, but something must be done to educate the population on proper nutrition. A coke and a burger is not an acceptable daily meal.
 
2014-02-14 05:12:23 AM

NicoFinn: A significant portion of the American population is overweight and/or has diabetes. Many families are raising children in households where no one even cooks meals anymore. In essence it is being taught that fast and easy is better, and it doesn't matter at what cost. I think labels are possibly a bit extreme, but something must be done to educate the population on proper nutrition. A coke and a burger is not an acceptable daily meal.


And what step do you propose when they ignore you, as they are now ignoring massive amounts of information blasted at them.?
 
2014-02-14 05:20:10 AM

DoctorOfLove: NicoFinn: A significant portion of the American population is overweight and/or has diabetes. Many families are raising children in households where no one even cooks meals anymore. In essence it is being taught that fast and easy is better, and it doesn't matter at what cost. I think labels are possibly a bit extreme, but something must be done to educate the population on proper nutrition. A coke and a burger is not an acceptable daily meal.

And what step do you propose when they ignore you, as they are now ignoring massive amounts of information blasted at them.?


Treat the stuff as a majornpublic health issue and start legally restricting it.

Orrrr we could spend money on education and expanding food benefits and options to people, so they know how to plan meals and do basic cooking tasks (pasta veggies and meat).

But that costs money.
 
2014-02-14 05:25:19 AM
I've gone from 394 to 263 lbs so far in the pas 13 months. First change I made to my eating habits was eliminating sugary beverages.
 
2014-02-14 05:27:19 AM

Yes this is dog: Fructose is a sugar.


Consider me schooled.


NicoFinn: A significant portion of the American population is overweight and/or has diabetes. Many families are raising children in households where no one even cooks meals anymore. In essence it is being taught that fast and easy is better, and it doesn't matter at what cost. I think labels are possibly a bit extreme, but something must be done to educate the population on proper nutrition. A coke and a burger is not an acceptable daily meal.


Poor diet correlates with low income and the US is currently suffering from 4 consecutive decades of stagnant wages whiles prices have continued to rise. Addressing the problem of poor diet isn't as simple as providing people an instruction manual.
 
2014-02-14 05:27:26 AM

Animatronik: We have an epidemic of people eating and drinking things that they already know are not good for them.

How do we stop this behavior!!


By rounding up advertisers and shooting them.

If that doesn't work, then at least we've rounded up all of the advertisers and shot them.
 
2014-02-14 05:30:33 AM
Wasn't this a Parks and Recreation episode?
 
2014-02-14 05:30:45 AM

gfid: Bungles: Switching from sugar to sugar-free soda is the easiest health win anyone can do. After a few weeks, you won't even notice the taste difference, like moving from full-fat milk to semi-skimmed or skimmed: you just get used to it.

I stopped drinking sugared soda a few years ago, and lost  a chunk of weight without even trying over 6 months, and I don't even drink that much soda.

Why not just drink farking water?  It's essential to life.  It comes out of the goddammed tap which I think most people who are homeless and even some who are have available to them.  It doesn't taste too bad.

I still buy Coke.  It tastes good and I am so lazy it's easier to take a coke out of the fridge than to make coffee.  Delicious.

WTF would I want with "sugar free" cola?


Well I do drink water. It's not one or the other.
 
2014-02-14 05:31:55 AM
I've gone from 394 to 263 lbs so far in the pas 13 months

You sound fat
 
2014-02-14 05:32:14 AM

somemoron: Bungles: Switching from sugar to sugar-free soda is the easiest health win anyone can do. After a few weeks, you won't even notice the taste difference, like moving from full-fat milk to semi-skimmed or skimmed: you just get used to it.

I stopped drinking sugared soda a few years ago, and lost  a chunk of weight without even trying over 6 months, and I don't even drink that much soda.

NPR just did a piece on a study that followed milk drinkers.  The low-fat & skim milk drinkers were more likely to be overweight later on in life than users of whole milk.  Not saying correlation is causation, but things are never quite as simple as black & white.

Also, fake sugar tastes absolutely disgusting.  It was easier for me to just give up soda altogether and stick with water.  Caffeine withdrawal SUCKS though.  Such headaches.


Whole-milk tastes like cream to me now... fine on cereal, horrible to drink straight.
 
2014-02-14 05:40:35 AM

harryhardhat: I've gone from 394 to 263 lbs so far in the pas 13 months

You sound fat


Well, yes, that's the point.

As for this, I don't think it will succeed. Coca-Cola and PepsiCo will make every effort to nip this in the bud.
 
2014-02-14 05:41:14 AM
 
2014-02-14 05:43:15 AM
California's government epitomizes what's wrong with the liberal side of America in the same way that North Caroline epitomizes what's wrong with the "conservative" side. Every time news comes from one of those two states about what the government is up to, I cringe.


Conservative is in quotes because they're just another kind of liberal chasing an anachronistic "history" that never really existed, which is why highly educated historians don't vote for them.
 
2014-02-14 05:44:48 AM
First they put nasty looking warning labels on cigarettes and I said nothing...

Welcome fatties, your reckoning has come.
-Smoker
 
2014-02-14 05:45:58 AM
If only there were a way to discourage behavior detrimental to society as a whole.
 
2014-02-14 05:48:28 AM

BumpInTheNight: First they put nasty looking warning labels on cigarettes and I said nothing...

Welcome fatties, your reckoning has come.
-Smoker


Is this where the thread turns into e-cigarette evangelising?
 
2014-02-14 05:51:30 AM

Bungles: Switching from sugar to sugar-free soda is the easiest health win anyone can do. After a few weeks, you won't even notice the taste difference, like moving from full-fat milk to semi-skimmed or skimmed: you just get used to it.

I stopped drinking sugared soda a few years ago, and lost  a chunk of weight without even trying over 6 months, and I don't even drink that much soda.


I'm glad you lost weight, but that isn't a quick fix for everyone. Not only do sugar-free sodas not broadly cause weight loss, they may cause weight gain for some. It's still being argued back and forth by scientists, but it seems like now it's definitely not something that clearly causes weight loss. Reducing the amount of soda americans drink would probably be the surest way to lose weight. And help their bone health.
 
2014-02-14 06:16:31 AM

ambercat: Bungles: Switching from sugar to sugar-free soda is the easiest health win anyone can do. After a few weeks, you won't even notice the taste difference, like moving from full-fat milk to semi-skimmed or skimmed: you just get used to it.

I stopped drinking sugared soda a few years ago, and lost  a chunk of weight without even trying over 6 months, and I don't even drink that much soda.

I'm glad you lost weight, but that isn't a quick fix for everyone. Not only do sugar-free sodas not broadly cause weight loss, they may cause weight gain for some. It's still being argued back and forth by scientists, but it seems like now it's definitely not something that clearly causes weight loss. Reducing the amount of soda americans drink would probably be the surest way to lose weight. And help their bone health.



It's probably more "If I skip the sugar, why not upgrade the fries?" more than some mysterious huger-inducing properties of aspartame. So, yes, if you will lose weight, as long as you don't start some sort of calories-replacement behaviour.
 
2014-02-14 06:20:18 AM

Bungles: Switching from sugar to sugar-free soda is the easiest health win anyone can do. After a few weeks, you won't even notice the taste difference, like moving from full-fat milk to semi-skimmed or skimmed: you just get used to it.

I stopped drinking sugared soda a few years ago, and lost  a chunk of weight without even trying over 6 months, and I don't even drink that much soda.


I accidentally bought whole milk at the store the other day. This shiat is delicious, yo. I mean, I didn't know milk could taste this GOOD. I tried it as a kid and was like, "whatever, 2% is the same thing," but it isn't.
 
2014-02-14 06:22:59 AM
Caffeine has a lethal dose around 10g, I wonder if we should put a warning label on it? People can die from drinking an excessive amount of water. I wonder if we should put a warning label on it?

Maybe we should just put a label on everything consumable saying 'over consumption of this good can cause long term health problems.'

Then again if you put a warning on everything, it stops being a warning and starts being novel, and maybe that's the point?
 
2014-02-14 06:23:28 AM

Bungles: gfid: Bungles: Switching from sugar to sugar-free soda is the easiest health win anyone can do. After a few weeks, you won't even notice the taste difference, like moving from full-fat milk to semi-skimmed or skimmed: you just get used to it.

I stopped drinking sugared soda a few years ago, and lost  a chunk of weight without even trying over 6 months, and I don't even drink that much soda.

Why not just drink farking water?  It's essential to life.  It comes out of the goddammed tap which I think most people who are homeless and even some who are have available to them.  It doesn't taste too bad.

I still buy Coke.  It tastes good and I am so lazy it's easier to take a coke out of the fridge than to make coffee.  Delicious.

WTF would I want with "sugar free" cola?

Well I do drink water. It's not one or the other.


Like, from the toilet? EWWWWW
 
2014-02-14 06:29:05 AM
You know who else put labels on things he considered an epidemic?
 
2014-02-14 06:41:22 AM
I keep waiting for the announcement from CVS. Since (according to their facebook announcement) they are a health care company, it's pretty irresponsible to continue selling Monster energy drinks and high-fructose corn syrup fruit juice. You know, if we're being consistent and are actually doing it for altrui$tic purposes.
 
2014-02-14 06:47:34 AM

thisispete: I've gone from 394 to 263 lbs so far in the pas 13 months. First change I made to my eating habits was eliminating sugary beverages.


Holy shiat. Congrats and good luck!
 
2014-02-14 06:49:59 AM

thisispete: I've gone from 394 to 263 lbs so far in the pas 13 months. First change I made to my eating habits was eliminating sugary beverages.


When you take your shirt off, is it like someone's emptied a sack of foreskins on the floor?
 
2014-02-14 06:58:22 AM

Bungles: thisispete: I've gone from 394 to 263 lbs so far in the pas 13 months. First change I made to my eating habits was eliminating sugary beverages.

When you take your shirt off, is it like someone's emptied a sack of foreskins on the floor?


It is when I take my shirt off. I'm considering donating skin for grafts.
 
2014-02-14 07:04:56 AM

mike_d85: Bungles: thisispete: I've gone from 394 to 263 lbs so far in the pas 13 months. First change I made to my eating habits was eliminating sugary beverages.

When you take your shirt off, is it like someone's emptied a sack of foreskins on the floor?

It is when I take my shirt off. I'm considering donating skin for grafts.

 
Maybe handbags?
 
2014-02-14 07:16:28 AM

Animatronik: We have an epidemic of people eating and drinking things that they already know are not good for them.

How do we stop this behavior!!


Same way we went from a society of 50% smokers to 25%.
 
2014-02-14 07:25:14 AM
Everywhere I've gone in California I've seen this sign:
"[This facility] contains materials known to the State of California to cause cancer."

I figure if they are going to put warning labels that everyone will ignore all over Disneyland, why not put them everywhere else.

They should just put a big sign on the highway as you're walking up the jet-bridges, and entering on the highway:
"California contains materials known to the State of California to cause cancer."
In fact they could even shorten it some:

Welcome to California.

You now have cancer.

 
2014-02-14 07:31:24 AM

Ecobuckeye: I keep waiting for the announcement from CVS. Since (according to their facebook announcement) they are a health care company, it's pretty irresponsible to continue selling Monster energy drinks and high-fructose corn syrup fruit juice. You know, if we're being consistent and are actually doing it for altrui$tic purposes.


Cigarettes have centuries of consistently insanely high death rates associated with even casual use.
Energy drinks have a few college students that managed to poison themselves by choking down more than any non-drunk human would ever think possible.
HFCS has the politically-based whinings of a bunch of hipsters and soccer moms who know fark-all about chemistry or nutritional science.
They're not equal.  It's disingenuous to pretend they are.
 
2014-02-14 07:35:52 AM
I tried to switch from regular to diet soda/pop/coke.  The sugar cravings were so bad I almost wanted to sit down with a 5 lb bag of sugar and a spoon.  Add that with trying to reduce my dependancy on caffeine by cutting back quantities, I failed miserably.  I'm down to 1 regular soda/pop/coke a day.  I've started drinking coffee for the caffeine fix so I'm trying to skip a few days inbetween soda/pop/coke's.  Break one habit at a time, ideally I'd like to quit coffee but we'll see.

/not fat
//seriously
 
2014-02-14 07:38:41 AM

crowbar032: I tried to switch from regular to diet soda/pop/coke.  The sugar cravings were so bad I almost wanted to sit down with a 5 lb bag of sugar and a spoon.  Add that with trying to reduce my dependancy on caffeine by cutting back quantities, I failed miserably.  I'm down to 1 regular soda/pop/coke a day.  I've started drinking coffee for the caffeine fix so I'm trying to skip a few days inbetween soda/pop/coke's.  Break one habit at a time, ideally I'd like to quit coffee but we'll see.

/not fat
//seriously


If you're craving sugar and caffeine to that extent, it's time for a family intervention.
 
2014-02-14 07:40:23 AM

Ecobuckeye: I keep waiting for the announcement from CVS. Since (according to their facebook announcement) they are a health care company, it's pretty irresponsible to continue selling Monster energy drinks and high-fructose corn syrup fruit juice. You know, if we're being consistent and are actually doing it for altrui$tic purposes.


Candies and salty snacks are known killers also .
 
2014-02-14 07:44:48 AM
I cut back a lot the last few years on sugary drinks. A few months back I had a couple and got such heart burn. Even when I was younger energy drink would get me all wired even from just a little bit.
 
2014-02-14 07:51:23 AM

Bungles: ambercat:
It's probably more "If I skip the sugar, why not upgrade the fries?" more than some mysterious huger-inducing properties of aspartame. So, yes, if you will lose weight, as long as you don't start some sort of calories-replacement behaviour.


That might be part of it in humans, but it shows up in rats, so there's something else going on. One theory is that it doesn't give your body the same 'hey I just ate a thing' signal that sugar does, so you don't feel as full. So it's not so much causing hunger as not causing fullness. Like the calories in the soda are turned invisible to your body's internal calorie counter, so they get added to whatever amount of calories you normally eat to feel full.
 
WGJ
2014-02-14 07:55:08 AM
Does anyone think that a warning label actually works?
 
2014-02-14 07:56:29 AM

NicoFinn: A significant portion of the American population is overweight and/or has diabetes. Many families are raising children in households where no one even cooks meals anymore. In essence it is being taught that fast and easy is better, and it doesn't matter at what cost. I think labels are possibly a bit extreme, but something must be done to educate the population on proper nutrition. A coke and a burger is not an acceptable daily meal.


A burger and soda aren't terrible assuming that you eat okay the rest of your day. As long as it fits your macro nutrients, you will be fine.
 
2014-02-14 07:58:40 AM

Bungles: mike_d85: Bungles: thisispete: I've gone from 394 to 263 lbs so far in the pas 13 months. First change I made to my eating habits was eliminating sugary beverages.

When you take your shirt off, is it like someone's emptied a sack of foreskins on the floor?

It is when I take my shirt off. I'm considering donating skin for grafts.
 
Maybe handbags?


I wonder if a plastic surgeon could give me pockets.

/Imagine the lint, though...
 
2014-02-14 07:59:43 AM

Bungles: crowbar032: I tried to switch from regular to diet soda/pop/coke.  The sugar cravings were so bad I almost wanted to sit down with a 5 lb bag of sugar and a spoon.  Add that with trying to reduce my dependancy on caffeine by cutting back quantities, I failed miserably.  I'm down to 1 regular soda/pop/coke a day.  I've started drinking coffee for the caffeine fix so I'm trying to skip a few days inbetween soda/pop/coke's.  Break one habit at a time, ideally I'd like to quit coffee but we'll see.

/not fat
//seriously

If you're craving sugar and caffeine to that extent, it's time for a family intervention.


I only had the sugar cravings while drinking the Pepsi One or Pepsi Next.  Even at that I was only up to like 3 cans a day.  Which is a lot of pop, but not overly excessive.  But I do need at least a cup of coffee or can or two of pop before lunch to prevent the splitting headaches.  That is why I'm working on quitting both.
 
2014-02-14 07:59:44 AM
Diabetes is an absurdly prevalent and expensive problem facing America right now, I'd say this one actually makes sense.

Not that putting warning labels on the package will actually alter peoples behavior, mind you...
 
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