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(The New York Times)   Hey kids - enjoying all the snow days this year? Well, build a snowman while you can because technology's about to ruin your day   (nytimes.com) divider line 35
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2014-02-13 10:53:11 PM  
I showed this to my 5th grade son and he stared at the screen like he'd witnessed a car wreck.
 
2014-02-14 01:23:08 AM  
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2014-02-14 03:08:45 AM  
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2014-02-14 03:11:33 AM  
This sucks. Both for the kids and the rest of us who will probably have to pay for others to have both laptops and and internet connection.
 
2014-02-14 03:14:41 AM  
You've got to train them young so that they understand that they are never free....ever ever ever.
 
2014-02-14 03:25:00 AM  
Better this that having your spring break cannibalized. Plus you can get high for class a lot easier this way.
 
2014-02-14 03:26:03 AM  

robohobo: This sucks. Both for the kids and the rest of us who will probably have to pay for others to have both laptops and and internet connection.


So kids whose parents can't afford internet and a computer at home should grow up with significantly less access to technology, putting them behind their peers and giving them less opportunity to pull themselves up by their bootstraps?
 
2014-02-14 03:27:48 AM  
Anyone else really farking pissed about that car commercial where the guy talks about how great Americans are because we don't take off all of August like Europeans do? Anyone feel like that's just more social engineering to keep the serfs at work (and feelin' proud about it! Mmmurrrica!)?

Anyway, that's what this reminds me of.

/Fark you, *I'm* never gonna get to go to the moon, so give me all of August off like the Europeans
//And for the record, asswipe, no America isn't going back to the moon, at least not before the Chinese.
///Boy that commercial pisses me off.
 
2014-02-14 03:30:28 AM  

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: robohobo: This sucks. Both for the kids and the rest of us who will probably have to pay for others to have both laptops and and internet connection.

So kids whose parents can't afford internet and a computer at home should grow up with significantly less access to technology, putting them behind their peers and giving them less opportunity to pull themselves up by their bootstraps?


The bootstrappy way is to build your own computer from junkyard scraps, like the Greatest Generation did with crystal radio sets.

Ya farkin' pinko.

/kidding, if it wasn't obvious
 
2014-02-14 03:43:57 AM  
I remember a bit on Futurama about 20th century school being little more than day care.

UT Dallas runs the only homeshool district I know of that does actual education. I know that only because I have occasional social contact with a Cisco guy that travels with the family, like an IT version of The Partridge Family.
 
2014-02-14 03:44:09 AM  

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: robohobo: This sucks. Both for the kids and the rest of us who will probably have to pay for others to have both laptops and and internet connection.

So kids whose parents can't afford internet and a computer at home should grow up with significantly less access to technology, putting them behind their peers and giving them less opportunity to pull themselves up by their bootstraps?


Its yet another failed plan to try and help someone when you know those laptops will just wind up in a pawn shop.

At worst for long periods of building or structure issues they could set up temporary hubs for kids to be at and work from there, kind of setting them up for being a mindless office worker.
 
2014-02-14 03:44:40 AM  
Whatever speeds up the nationwide rollout of fiber optic connections is ok by me.

We should be ashamed that any other country has faster more accessible internet than we do.
 
2014-02-14 03:48:42 AM  

steamingpile: Its yet another failed plan to try and help someone when you know those laptops will just wind up in a pawn shop.


The high school I went to had a program to loan computers to people that didn't have one at home. In fact, I had one of them for a couple years. I talked with the people who ran the program, and they didn't have any problem with them being sold to pawn shops.

But then, I suppose reality does have a liberal bias.
 
2014-02-14 03:58:15 AM  

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: steamingpile: Its yet another failed plan to try and help someone when you know those laptops will just wind up in a pawn shop.

The high school I went to had a program to loan computers to people that didn't have one at home. In fact, I had one of them for a couple years. I talked with the people who ran the program, and they didn't have any problem with them being sold to pawn shops.

But then, I suppose reality does have a liberal bias.


Probably because the pawn shops knew about the program and wouldn't buy those computers.
 
2014-02-14 04:00:25 AM  
If the internet snowballed, then you are in luck.
 
2014-02-14 04:04:30 AM  

brimed03: Anyone else really farking pissed about that car commercial where the guy talks about how great Americans are because we don't take off all of August like Europeans do? Anyone feel like that's just more social engineering to keep the serfs at work (and feelin' proud about it! Mmmurrrica!)?


This ad?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGJSI48gkFc
 
2014-02-14 04:05:15 AM  

wildcardjack: Probably because the pawn shops knew about the program and wouldn't buy those computers.


Or because the guys that ran the program owned the local pawn shops, and could write off the disappearing laptops anyway.  Win/win!

/hey, I've got an idea...
 
2014-02-14 04:52:49 AM  

memebot_of_doom: brimed03: Anyone else really farking pissed about that car commercial where the guy talks about how great Americans are because we don't take off all of August like Europeans do? Anyone feel like that's just more social engineering to keep the serfs at work (and feelin' proud about it! Mmmurrrica!)?

This ad?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGJSI48gkFc


How the f***k is that supposed to make you want to buy a Cadillac?
 
2014-02-14 05:31:29 AM  
Considering how much work they would get done in class vs. how much work they could get done working individually at home, I do not see virtual school days as any less educational than normal school days.  This is not something that would happen on a regular basis, and there are plenty of ways a day's lesson plans could be tweaked to be more accommodating to the situation.  For example, a group discussion could take place on a discussion board, practice problems could be set up as an online-submit assignment, or a lecture could be replaced with a YouTube video or series of videos created or chosen by the teacher and accompanied by some kind of discussion or essay thing.  Probably the only sort of class that would have difficulties would be intense lab or art production classes, where students need access to the materials in the classroom.

That said, even if you provide a laptop to every student and they all work correctly and do not go missing, storms have this annoying tendency to make the power (and therefore the Internet) go out.  I can imagine all the lazy kids claiming they could not do their work because their power was out the WHOLE TIME when they go back to school, and there would be no way to prove they're lying.
 
2014-02-14 06:04:15 AM  
Jirafa:

That said, even if you provide a laptop to every student and they all work correctly and do not go missing, storms have this annoying tendency to make the power (and therefore the Internet) go out.  I can imagine all the lazy kids claiming they could not do their work because their power was out the WHOLE TIME when they go back to school, and there would be no way to prove they're lying.

The teacher will just require you to log in to your smart meter and provide a readout of the usage graph. "Dear Mr. Kotter, Epstein couldn't do his on-line schoolwork because the power was out. Signed, Epstein's Power Company."

But seriously, ask how many students in the Augusta, Georgia - Columbia, SC area are concerned about schoolwork right now (about 150,000 without power). One Augusta suburb has its own municipal fiber, but that UPS won't hold out forever. At least the temperatures are supposed to warm up pretty fast this weekend.

/Didn't lose power this time
//Will be pricing generators soon.
 
2014-02-14 06:12:49 AM  
My kids district has used 3 Blizzard Bag days this year - apparently some of the teachers really took the "Not a glorified homework assignment" thing to heart because they assigned somewhere in the neighborhood of 2 hours of work per subject per day.  Some of them managed to hit close to the mark of around 30-40 minutes of work - which is probably all you typically get on an average day.  Even then, in a classroom setting at least 1/2 that time is spent listening, whereas all of this was reading, writing or doing.  Needless to say but the second assignment my kids were MUCH more interested in getting up and going to school than getting another Blizzard Bag.

My oldest child wasnt such a chore as she did all the work herself (with the added effort of complaining every 20 minutes) but for my younger kids it probably assigned almost as much work to the parents as the kids.
 
2014-02-14 06:14:25 AM  
Sorry teacher, the snow knocked out my internet.
 
2014-02-14 06:25:32 AM  
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2014-02-14 06:33:29 AM  
Seriously thinking about homeschooling.  There is the benefit of being amongst all the schmoes in regular school though and the character that can come from it.


Dammit.
 
2014-02-14 06:34:03 AM  
Issue them all iPads. I hear that ends well.
 
2014-02-14 06:55:16 AM  
If the schools were doing their job the kids would realize that they will have to make up those days one way or another.
 
2014-02-14 07:14:29 AM  
Finally. Let's stop treating school like daycares and start allowing kids to do their school work on the computer from home. Enough of their parents are working from home already, might as well get them ready for the real world.
 
2014-02-14 07:57:33 AM  

robohobo: This sucks. Both for the kids and the rest of us who will probably have to pay for others to have both laptops and and internet connection.


Agreed.

Here in Nebraska the law is the state has to provide a free education. Several years ago, the state supreme court determined that meant that if the school requires students to have any type of supplies or equipment  they have to be provided for free to any students who say they can't afford them.

So if they were to implement something like this, we can watch the school budgets swell to
accommodate all the new computers they will need to buy. Hooray for even higher property taxes!

I like their current solution for snow days. Plan on having a few each year. If you don't use them, the last day of school comes a little early. Use too many, it gets pushed back a day or two.
 
2014-02-14 08:12:20 AM  

wildcardjack: Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: steamingpile: Its yet another failed plan to try and help someone when you know those laptops will just wind up in a pawn shop.

The high school I went to had a program to loan computers to people that didn't have one at home. In fact, I had one of them for a couple years. I talked with the people who ran the program, and they didn't have any problem with them being sold to pawn shops.

But then, I suppose reality does have a liberal bias.

Probably because the pawn shops knew about the program and wouldn't buy those computers.


They issued iPads here. They are all stamped as school property and lojacked to hell. From what I've heard theft hasn't been an issue as no one will touch them.
 
2014-02-14 08:13:11 AM  

lewismarktwo: Better this that having your spring break cannibalized. Plus you can get high for class a lot easier this way.


You're crazy.  There's no snow to play in for spring break.  Snow days were much more fun than any spring break I ever had before college.  Besides, they didn't cut spring break for us, ever.  They did things like school on Saturdays, which NOBODY showed up for, or tacked days onto the end of the year, by which time the teachers were as ready to get out as we were, and we did absolutely nothing.

I never got high for class, didn't smoke weed.  Still don't.
 
2014-02-14 08:14:15 AM  

DarkVader: lewismarktwo: Better this that having your spring break cannibalized. Plus you can get high for class a lot easier this way.

You're crazy.  There's no snow to play in for spring break.  Snow days were much more fun than any spring break I ever had before college.  Besides, they didn't cut spring break for us, ever.  They did things like school on Saturdays, which NOBODY showed up for, or tacked days onto the end of the year, by which time the teachers were as ready to get out as we were, and we did absolutely nothing.

I never got high for class, didn't smoke weed.  Still don't.


Oh, and now that I think about it, my best college spring break I drove to Boston.  It snowed.
 
2014-02-14 11:05:29 AM  

steamingpile: Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: robohobo: This sucks. Both for the kids and the rest of us who will probably have to pay for others to have both laptops and and internet connection.

So kids whose parents can't afford internet and a computer at home should grow up with significantly less access to technology, putting them behind their peers and giving them less opportunity to pull themselves up by their bootstraps?

Its yet another failed plan to try and help someone when you know those laptops will just wind up in a pawn shop.

At worst for long periods of building or structure issues they could set up temporary hubs for kids to be at and work from there, kind of setting them up for being a mindless office worker.


Our school has issued laptops to all high school students for the last 6 years. 100% of them have been sold in pawn shops. Oh wait, scratch that. I meant to say 0%. We've lost exactly one, and that one was stolen out of a car and was paid for by their car insurance policy. Nice scare tactic, though. Get the old folks all riled up that their tax dollars are being wasted on crap like educating children. I live way out in deep-red flyover land, and the public is pretty supportive of the program, other than the few chucklefarks like you who absolutely can't stand to see someone else have something that you didn't.
 
2014-02-14 11:22:37 AM  

brimed03: Anyone else really farking pissed about that car commercial where the guy talks about how great Americans are because we don't take off all of August like Europeans do? Anyone feel like that's just more social engineering to keep the serfs at work (and feelin' proud about it! Mmmurrrica!)?


I saw that last night! It really pissed me off. Productivity, innovation, and success are not necessarily well served by forcing workers to labor with minimal time off. That mindset can go fark itself.
 
2014-02-14 12:02:30 PM  
Either you keep working in the lousy weather, or you have a longer school year and shorter summer.
 
2014-02-14 12:39:52 PM  

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: steamingpile: Its yet another failed plan to try and help someone when you know those laptops will just wind up in a pawn shop.

The high school I went to had a program to loan computers to people that didn't have one at home. In fact, I had one of them for a couple years. I talked with the people who ran the program, and they didn't have any problem with them being sold to pawn shops.

But then, I suppose reality does have a liberal bias.


I've been working in a hybrid school for eight years. We loan over 250+ computers (laptops) to students every year. We've never had one end up in a pawn shop. We've had a few get damaged from careless use, but the kids REALLY like having those computers.

We have an arrangement with the local cable company (Cox) to provide Internet services to a few of our students at no cost to them. You'd be surprised how much having a computer and Internet access for a student actually helps out the entire family. Their parents have access to online job applications, etc

I'm sure if one did a cost/benefit analysis, the cost of computers and Internet for students would be far less than the value they provide.
 
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