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(CNN)   Not to be outdone, a different zoo in Denmark is now saying that they too have a baby giraffe that needs whackin'   (cnn.com) divider line 28
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2014-02-14 06:05:56 AM  
3 votes:
Kill millions of livestock for food, nobody panics, because it's all "part of the plan". But when I say that one little giraffe will die, well then everyone loses their minds!
2014-02-14 05:44:53 AM  
3 votes:
Disclaimer, I'm danish.

First of all, what is it with these reporters and absolutely ignoring facts? It's about making a healthy population, they need to remove redundant males to avoid inbreeding, the can't exchange these animals, as it is part of the agreement amongst the breeders, who gets what and when.

Regarding the children, while we do have a go at becoming helicopter parents, we are nowhere near the US; we understand that there is education in watching a giraffe (or any other animal) getting dissected, (back when I was in kindergarden we went and watched a hen get its head chopped off and we pulled the feathers afterwards).

Also, didn't NY just talk about killing off some 2000 swans? Where are the riots? That is our farking national bird! We should be declaring war on the US for that!
2014-02-13 08:52:01 PM  
3 votes:
Can't they just neuter it?
2014-02-14 10:09:56 AM  
2 votes:

HindiDiscoMonster: Cerebral Ballsy: Blues_X: Can't they just neuter it?

Why neuter it?  They have limited space, they have an overpopulation of giraffes, and they could use the meat for the carnivorous animals.
Also, WGAS what a zoo wants to do with its giraffe.  They're biologists and zoologists, they know what they're doing.  No one complains when pigs are killed for food, why do so many people get in an uproar over a giraffe?  Is it because they're not native to your country?

pigs and cows are bred for food. giraffes are not....
do you usually compare apples and fraggles?


Hey, guess what lions eat?

You guys are short on brain cells and long on emotion.
2014-02-14 09:02:05 AM  
2 votes:
splab:Also, didn't NY just talk about killing off some 2000 swans? Where are the riots? That is our farking national bird! We should be declaring war on the US for that!

Swans aren't endangered, and are an invasive species in NY. And since they are bigger than the local water birds competing for the same resources, the populations of these native species are becoming dangerously low while the invasive swans are flourishing.
2014-02-14 06:25:40 AM  
2 votes:
( maybe they could just take it back to Africa or wherever its from, and let it go? )
2014-02-14 01:13:01 AM  
2 votes:

fusillade762: After a necropsy, the giraffe was dismembered in front of an audience that included children and fed to the zoo's lions, tigers and leopards.

That seems... inappropriate.


The audience was there by choice and the parents gave permission for their children to be there.  I read in some article that in most cases, it was the kids who brought the parents, not the other way around, and that the kids asked some surprisingly good questions.  Bear in mind these are Danish kids, not American snowflakes.  There's a big difference.

Now, the killing of the giraffe, well, I think there probably was a better way to handle the situation.
2014-02-14 12:16:04 AM  
2 votes:
can't they just exchange it for another giraffe to create more dna diversity? i guess space is limited but having 2 giraffes or 3 seems like a minor issue. also wtf are they breeding them if they already have too many?
2014-02-14 04:13:11 PM  
1 votes:
The story has turned out to be false btw.

The ZOO released a statement that if they found themselves in the same situation as the ZOO of Copenhagen, they'd have done the same.

They're currently not in the same situation, and have the appropiate number of giraffes. The giraffes they have deemed "worthless" for the breeding program have already been placed in ZOOs not participating in the breeding program.

Of course the usual deaththreats from animal lovers lunatics are pouring in. Everyone is reported to the police. So see how that works out for them.

Even the president of Chechneya has weighed in on the situation. So, dumbass parade all around.
2014-02-14 12:21:08 PM  
1 votes:

Joe Peanut: splab: Joe Peanut: splab:Also, didn't NY just talk about killing off some 2000 swans? Where are the riots? That is our farking national bird! We should be declaring war on the US for that!

Swans aren't endangered, and are an invasive species in NY. And since they are bigger than the local water birds competing for the same resources, the populations of these native species are becoming dangerously low while the invasive swans are flourishing.

So it's ok to control that population, but not the giraffe population in captivity? While giraffes are endangered, having Marius (either of them) around, isn't helping the population, remember, giraffes aren't native to Denmark.

Are you serious?  Giraffes aren't an invasive species in Denmark, competing and dominating the fight for local resources against local species.  It is a completely different situation.


Male giraffes fight each other though. You can't have two male giraffes together in a ZOO, because as others have pointed out, the nature of a ZOO is such that they can't really run away.

This second giraffe, also named Marius, is by the way a halfbreed. Whilst their other male giraffe is a pure breed. Thus it's the latter one that will be used for the breeding program.

I still like the idea of starting a kickstarter program for relocating the giraffe. However, I think surplus giraffes should be send to Australia. Australia has before proven to be an awesome place to send random animals too for shiats and giggles (see rabbits and toads).
2014-02-14 09:45:29 AM  
1 votes:

splab: Joe Peanut: splab:Also, didn't NY just talk about killing off some 2000 swans? Where are the riots? That is our farking national bird! We should be declaring war on the US for that!

Swans aren't endangered, and are an invasive species in NY. And since they are bigger than the local water birds competing for the same resources, the populations of these native species are becoming dangerously low while the invasive swans are flourishing.

So it's ok to control that population, but not the giraffe population in captivity? While giraffes are endangered, having Marius (either of them) around, isn't helping the population, remember, giraffes aren't native to Denmark.


Are you serious?  Giraffes aren't an invasive species in Denmark, competing and dominating the fight for local resources against local species.  It is a completely different situation.
2014-02-14 09:22:57 AM  
1 votes:
2014-02-14 09:19:19 AM  
1 votes:
Solution: don't name your giraffe Marius.

but seriously....
About the "evil zookeepers only let baby animals be born in zoos to get more visitors and sell more cuddly toys" : Animals kept in captivity are bored. No reason (and no possibility) to go hunting, to fight against intruders (the occasional drunken/idiotic visitor aside) or to find new territories. One of the few things that can keep the animals occupied, present challenges and give them something to do is acutally having offspring. Yep, the cuddly/sweet little things are not bred to keep the instagram aaawwww-crowd happy, but to keep their parents busy.

And that means tha at some point you will have to find either a place for the offspring, get rid of the parents or get rid of the offspring. Cruel? Think hard about what is more cruel: a swift, probably painless death or spending time in another zoo or park that would not be allowing you to have offspring either. Boring days of walking up and down the enclosure and waiting for the hay.

We have zoos for good reasons (and some bad ones) and we ought to face the facts and consequences of them being there.

Disclaimer: danish. very animal-friendly. trying not to be animal-stupid. trying to behave and think rationally. Sometimes succeeding.
2014-02-14 07:33:10 AM  
1 votes:
Why do they even have him? His giraffe species is thriving in Africa. Its almost like Zoo's aren't wildlife preserves.
2014-02-14 06:59:26 AM  
1 votes:
There's some disturbing pics of this incident on google images, if you're into that.
GCD
2014-02-14 06:50:49 AM  
1 votes:

MagicMissile: ( maybe they could just take it back to Africa or wherever its from, and let it go? )


Awesome idea. Then the lions, tigers and leopards in the wild would have hunted it down and killed it.

/Probably could have marketed it as a PPV with side bets on how long it would have lasted in the wild though
2014-02-14 06:41:43 AM  
1 votes:

MagicMissile: ( maybe they could just take it back to Africa or wherever its from, and let it go? )


That might make too much sense.  I know sometimes animals born in captivity are not released into the wild because they haven't learned to fend for themselves, but the giraffe probably can raise its head and chew a few leaves.

Yeah, I'm sure it's expensive to own a giraffe.  I bet a kickstarter project to send the giraffe back to Africa would have earned more than enough to cover expenses.
2014-02-14 06:41:00 AM  
1 votes:

MagicMissile: ( maybe they could just take it back to Africa or wherever its from, and let it go? )


They could. For the same resources wasted on that they could just give that money to Red Cross.

Oh, and kill a less important cow. Because cows are not important animals like giraffes.
2014-02-14 06:11:24 AM  
1 votes:

NickelP: can't they just exchange it for another giraffe to create more dna diversity? i guess space is limited but having 2 giraffes or 3 seems like a minor issue. also wtf are they breeding them if they already have too many?


Because by modern ethical standards they haven't been able to acquire a giraffe in 50 years or so.

Therefore the entire giraffe population in the zoo world (the public, ethically run ones anyway) are from the same limited gene pool.

They won't castrate them because of rea$on$.
2014-02-14 05:51:49 AM  
1 votes:

gfid: Count me among those who don't understand why they just can't neuter it.


Well, a eunuch giraffe is useless to the breeding program. (Europeans still love Eugenics. Why do you think there's so many different dog breeds?)

They also eat a LOT of food. Giraffes are bigger than a horse. That's room and board that could be going to a viable breeding giraffe.

But secretly, I'd bet they just wanted to feed the lions some giraffe meat.
2014-02-14 05:51:17 AM  
1 votes:

gfid: Count me among those who don't understand why they just can't neuter it.  I heard the guy who shot the other giraffe describe how it went down.  They offered Marcus (the giraffe) rye bread.  Marcus loved rye bread, but when Marcus ate the bread this time, blam, right in the head and he's dead.

Upon explaining his death to his relatives zookeepers just kept saying that they were afraid he might fark his sister.


Still a better love story than Twilight
2014-02-14 05:47:38 AM  
1 votes:

Blues_X: Can't they just neuter it?


Google turns this article up: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/feb/09/why-copenhagen-zoo-kille d -marius-giraffe that states the mother could have been given contraceptives, preventing Marius. But, neutering him would have required sedation, and giraffes falling tend to break their necks and would need to get put down anyway. So...another case for birth control?
2014-02-14 05:47:34 AM  
1 votes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENnNNVOEDZ4

Channel 4 grills the chief of Copenhagens ZOO on the giraffe, and comes of looking like the same total morons as everyone else that are outraged about this giraffe thing.
2014-02-14 05:45:37 AM  
1 votes:

Blues_X: Can't they just neuter it?


Yeah, and kill a cow instead to feed to the lions.

Because giraffes are more important than cows.

Really, giraffes are so farking important that you should put it through a dangerous procedure, have it take up place from another useful giraffe for the breeding program and feed it for the rest of its life. And of course kill a cow in lieu, because you know, fark cows, and the lions still have to eat.


Did I cover all the "animal lovers" points correct?
2014-02-14 05:45:11 AM  
1 votes:
Count me among those who don't understand why they just can't neuter it.  I heard the guy who shot the other giraffe describe how it went down.  They offered Marcus (the giraffe) rye bread.  Marcus loved rye bread, but when Marcus ate the bread this time, blam, right in the head and he's dead.

Upon explaining his death to his relatives zookeepers just kept saying that they were afraid he might fark his sister.

I guess it's good that the lions got some variety in their diets, but think of the money that could be made if it were served to people.  I know I'd pay a premium just to see what giraffe tastes like even though I imagine it's not that great.
2014-02-13 11:23:35 PM  
1 votes:

Blues_X: Can't they just neuter it?


Ladders tall enough to do the job are banned under EU law for health and safety reasons.
2014-02-13 09:37:47 PM  
1 votes:
They could make a fortune if they had a high-end chef cook it up and sold tickets.

I wonder if that's illegal?
2014-02-13 09:02:26 PM  
1 votes:
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