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2014-02-13 07:25:21 PM  
Gotcha, thanks!

I remember something going up for auction awhile back, I couldn't remember whether it was AM or not.
 
2014-02-13 07:27:23 PM  
Old timer here. I used to set in my room, late at night in the Northeast, picking up St. Louis and New Orleans on my Channel Master. I still have it, complete with the strap case.

/The skip is awesome
 
2014-02-13 07:28:30 PM  
I listen to the AM news station out of Seattle (KOMO AM 1000), because the only other news station in the area, KIRO FM has talking heads all day who are not just stupid, but annoying (Dori Monson is a mouthbreathing farkstick, Ron & Don are annoying as hell, and Dave Ross is at least palatable, but boring. I want to hear news, not opinion).

KOMO is a nice little bastion of even-handed news reporting- and all they do is news, 24/7. Which I like when I have to drive to the post office or the bank.

But I don't think it's typical of modern AM.
 
2014-02-13 07:30:25 PM  
I only listen to x-ray radio. It's got a warmth the others don't.
 
2014-02-13 07:30:47 PM  
Dogpants:
I once worked at a clear channel AM station that reached 38 states and 4 provinces of Canada after dark.  One time I got a postcard from a guy that was picking us up loud and clear in Iceland.  Crackpot preachers until midnight, then country music for the truckers overnight.  We'd get requests from all over the country.

That's pretty amazing.
 
2014-02-13 07:31:23 PM  

Lonestar: [changeoffaces.files.wordpress.com image 584x436]


Ah yes, Snap, Crack, and Hiss, my favorite... uh... magical elf chefs!
 
2014-02-13 07:31:42 PM  

nekom: I'm a hipster, I only listen to longwave.  And not the standard frequencies either, 209KHz out of Mongolia.  It's pretty obscure, you've probably never heard of it.


I thought all the hipsters listened to the Lincolnshire Poacher

/would be a great hipster/nerdcore band name
 
2014-02-13 07:31:53 PM  
I got the AM
(Radio On!)
Got the car, got the AM
(Radio On!)
Got the AM sound, got the
(Radio On!)
Got the rockin' modern neon sound
(Radio On!)
I got the car from Massachusetts, got the
(Radio On!)
I got the power of Massachusetts when it's late at night
(Radio On!)
I got the modern sounds of modern Massachusetts
I've got the world, got the turnpike, got the
I've got the, got the power of the AM
Got the, late at night, rock & roll late at night
The factories and the auto signs got the power of modern sounds
Alright

Let's face it; without AM radio, we'd all still be listening to the farkin' Eagles and the flares on our patchwork jeans would cover our farkin' platform shoes...
 
2014-02-13 07:35:59 PM  
Without AM radio, how would I listen to Art Bell and Coast to Coast late at night?  Phil Hendrie is also on my AM stations.  Neither seems to be right wing wacko.

If you don't know Phil Hendrie or Art Bell, you don't know true artistic ventures.
 
2014-02-13 07:38:04 PM  
It's something to listen to besides 8-tracks.
 
2014-02-13 07:39:56 PM  

AmbassadorBooze: Without AM radio, how would I listen to Art Bell and Coast to Coast late at night?  Phil Hendrie is also on my AM stations.  Neither seems to be right wing wacko.

If you don't know Phil Hendrie or Art Bell, you don't know true artistic ventures.


Phil Hendrie is still on? You just made my day! He left his radio show and tried a TV project a few years ago, I never knew he went back to radio.
 
2014-02-13 07:43:10 PM  
The loss of radio lawyer Len Tillem has rendered the entire institution of AM radio useless.
 
2014-02-13 07:43:14 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: BizarreMan: dnrtfa:  What's the point?

They list a few reasons, but a better plan would be to just kill it and auction off the spectrum for wireless broadband.

If their stance is that AM radio is cheaper to operate and thus leads to a more diverse broadcast voice, internet radio is cheaper still.

Let's put out enough spectrum that truly unlimited LTE becomes an affordable reality for everyone.


Wireless broadband?  You may want to think about that for a minute. The frequencies involved are really only good for what they're being used for... there is very little 'band width' available in the AM broadcast band.

540-1610 kHz -- that's kiloHertz.  That's a total span of about 1mHz of bandwidth.

a 4G LTE signals use 10 to 20mHz

You couldn't even license one carrier in a geographic area to provide any reasonably "high speed" wireless data in that range.
 
2014-02-13 07:46:25 PM  
www.943knews.com

And Fark's favorite...
 
2014-02-13 07:47:13 PM  
Don't take my AM radio!  Conservative Talk radio makes me laugh so hard...Really the Derp is tangible.  http://www.cfra.com/
 
2014-02-13 07:50:15 PM  

Billy Liar: Let's face it; without AM radio, we'd all still be listening to the farkin' Eagles and the flares on our patchwork jeans would cover our farkin' platform shoes...



Ahh..no. FM was where most of the "Cool Music" was in the 70's. Album oriented stuff.

AM was "Captain and Tanelle", the Carpenters, Glen Campbell, and Jon Denver. Stuff for 13 yo girls.

FM was Pick Floyd, Led Zepplin, Rush, YES, Zappa, Queen, Suptertramp, Blue Oyster Cult...and things that wouldn't play on non Album oriented AM "Sugar Pop" "Bubble Gum" stations.

Heck---- Most FM stations in the late 70's would have a "Album" hour..and play a entire Album with no commercials,...or a new Album. And encourage people to fire up their cassette decks. With a pause after 45mins for people to flip the sides of the cassette tape while the DJ turned the Album over to side 2.

A little known fact was in the 1970's each black Cassette Tape you purchased had a few pennies pushed back to the RIAA. So, not only was it legal to copy albums and FM radio shows---it was actively encouraged.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_copying_levy

Sorry..that's a shallow search..but gives a reader an idea.You could copy for friends and trade with friends just don't sell or publish.
 
2014-02-13 07:53:26 PM  

fusillade762: Infobahn: I want my country back!

I want my western back!


I want my MTV  (1980s version)
 
2014-02-13 07:56:58 PM  
I must point out that the real quality of AM radios has been going down over time, and just getting cheaper because that is a place that manufacturers can cut corners.

Old school radios, even in old cars, have better reception.

now you can't tune in a station to save your life unless it has crazy amounts of power.
 
2014-02-13 07:57:43 PM  

optikeye: I think it's in the best interested of the public. We have lots of older radios that only pick up AM. Tube style radios are immune to a EMP (Either from a Man Made or Natural). And to really put on your tin foil hat...Crystal Radios.
Don't even require a battery. And a six year old can build one.

Also Digital Signals don't degrade gracefully...they are there are they're not so there's no "Buzzz...Crack" losing just a bit of info occasionally. If the Signal is week YOU GET NOTHING. (Wonka.jpg).


"You get nothing" was one of the selling points of FM in decades past - at least around here.  No static just smooth nothingness.
I have no idea where THAT went though, most times when in my auto there's plenty of FM static - sounds just like AM did - at least as bad as WABC during a Yankees game.

BTW- THANKS for the image of the crystal set.  I was trying to explain it to students and they were looking at me like I had 3 noggins.
No Physics or Electronics in HS I guess.
 
2014-02-13 08:00:10 PM  
I'd like to see some of the deregulation that lead to media conglomeration rolled back. That's part of the death of both AM and FM.

I'm lucky enough to be able to pick up several college FM stations at work and a few good music AM stations (at least during the day). I'd certainly like to have those college stations on AM as well so I could get the stations in the suburbs. It's about finding some new music.

Sure, AM is a wasteland of talk radio most places, but I'd hate to have FM become that, and there are vast swathes of the country that are undeserved by TV and radio, and AM is a lifeline there.

I would like to see more music on AM. I don't know what all the answers are for it, but it seems silly to throw it out. My AM dial may not be where I'm at most days but it's full so someone is listening.
 
2014-02-13 08:00:28 PM  

skaya: I must point out that the real quality of AM radios has been going down over time, and just getting cheaper because that is a place that manufacturers can cut corners.

Old school radios, even in old cars, have better reception.

now you can't tune in a station to save your life unless it has crazy amounts of power.


IIRC, one of my first cars, an 80's model Dodge, had a stereo AM radio. I'm not sure I've seen one since. Maybe they all are?
 
2014-02-13 08:00:33 PM  

uber humper: [www.943knews.com image 650x250]

And Fark's favorite...


Holy CHRIST!  What a show!
 
2014-02-13 08:06:47 PM  

fusillade762: unlikely: AM Radio is safely in the hands of insane mouth-frothing right wingers. It doesn't need saving, it needs quarantine.

Came to say basically this.


I sense a lot of butthurt in the fact that absolutely no one listened to AirAmerica. Conservative opinions are far more prevalent than liberal ones. You'll grow up and get over it.
 
2014-02-13 08:07:33 PM  

Representative of the unwashed masses: Branch Floridian: It still puts a smile on my face when I can pick up my hometown radio station (KMOX 1120 in St. Louis) in my car from over a thousand miles away.  Only at night or early morning, but still I think it is pretty cool.

I once was able to listen to a Los Angeles Dodgers game on an LA station one night when I was helping out on my uncles farm in Saskatchewan.  I thought that was pretty damn cool


As a kid in Baltimore I would hear Radio Cuba late at night.  In New Haven CT I could get some radio out of Tonawonda NY. That's where I first heard Elton John.

CSB- at my friends house after leaving 8th grade ceremony.  He's showing me the radio he received as a gift -"what's this FM dial do?"
"Oh it's like Dentist music"
"Really?"
"Yeah here listen - it's mostly nothing and a bit of  - HOLY CARP!"
It was the Yale University FM radio playing Lydia Pense and Cold Blood's brand new "THRILLER" LP
- we were never the same -
 
2014-02-13 08:08:23 PM  

optikeye: Billy Liar: Let's face it; without AM radio, we'd all still be listening to the farkin' Eagles and the flares on our patchwork jeans would cover our farkin' platform shoes...


Ahh..no. FM was where most of the "Cool Music" was in the 70's. Album oriented stuff.

AM was "Captain and Tanelle", the Carpenters, Glen Campbell, and Jon Denver. Stuff for 13 yo girls.

FM was Pick Floyd, Led Zepplin, Rush, YES, Zappa, Queen, Suptertramp, Blue Oyster Cult...and things that wouldn't play on non Album oriented AM "Sugar Pop" "Bubble Gum" stations.

Heck---- Most FM stations in the late 70's would have a "Album" hour..and play a entire Album with no commercials,...or a new Album. And encourage people to fire up their cassette decks. With a pause after 45mins for people to flip the sides of the cassette tape while the DJ turned the Album over to side 2.

A little known fact was in the 1970's each black Cassette Tape you purchased had a few pennies pushed back to the RIAA. So, not only was it legal to copy albums and FM radio shows---it was actively encouraged.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_copying_levy

Sorry..that's a shallow search..but gives a reader an idea.You could copy for friends and trade with friends just don't sell or publish.


Yes, but AM radio then had a high playlist turnover.  A song might get the fark played out of it for 2 weeks, by which time something else had come along, and you could listen to five different kinds of song in a half hour.  FM put on the nine-minute song and made sure to mention that Tom Scholz out of Boston  went to MIT and made his own amp, and anyone that used an acoustic guitar intro to a song was no doubt "classically trained".  Yeah, I admit those are stereotypes, but nonetheless, they're true.  Agree to disagree.
 
2014-02-13 08:14:26 PM  

Lee451: fusillade762: unlikely: AM Radio is safely in the hands of insane mouth-frothing right wingers. It doesn't need saving, it needs quarantine.

Came to say basically this.

I sense a lot of butthurt in the fact that absolutely no one listened to AirAmerica. Conservative opinions are far more prevalent than liberal ones. You'll grow up and get over it.


Liberals don't need an echo chamber to validate their beliefs.
 
2014-02-13 08:15:08 PM  

Lord Farkwad: Get off my lawn.


fark. Yes.
 
2014-02-13 08:17:10 PM  
B.B. Bumble and the Stingers, Mott the Hoople, Ray Charles Singers
Lonnie Mack and twangin' Eddy, here's my ring we're goin' steady
Take it easy, take me higher, liar liar, house on fire
Locomotion, Poco, Passion, Deeper Purple, Satisfaction
Baby baby gotta gotta gimme gimme gettin' hotter
Sammy's cookin', Lesley Gore and Ritchie Valens, end of story
Mahavishnu, fujiyama, kama-sutra, rama-lama
Richard Perry, Spector, Barry, Archies, Righteous, Nilsson, Harry
Shimmy shimmy ko-ko bop and Fats is back and Finger Poppin'


Life is a rock but the radio rolled me
Gotta turn it up louder, so my DJ told me (whoa whoa whoa whoa)
Life is a rock but the radio rolled me
At the end of my rainbow lies a golden oldie
 
2014-02-13 08:17:21 PM  

AmbassadorBooze: Without AM radio, how would I listen to Art Bell and Coast to Coast late at night?


His Internet radio station, where he plans to restart his show once he can get out of the Sirius/XM contract he signed.

/Sorry Art hasn't been on AM for a few years now, except in reruns.
 
2014-02-13 08:18:28 PM  
Radio, it's a sound salvation.  Radios can still transfer information from here to there when wires can't.   A watt or two of transmit can get halfway around the world.  CQCQCQ
 
2014-02-13 08:20:21 PM  
When you are driving long distance at night AM is nice because the 50 kilowatt day and night stations you can keep on the same station for like the entire trip because you can pick up a station from like hundreds of miles away.
 
2014-02-13 08:20:24 PM  
uber humper:

Phil Hendrie is still on? You just made my day! He left his radio show and tried a TV project a few years ago, I never knew he went back to radio.

He left KFI in June 2006.  The TV thing failed.  Then he was on TRN, with a political type talk show.  That was going nowhere, so he started including more and more of the skits.  Now he owns his show, and does the classic skit type show.  Most of the old characters are back.  Go to his website, and you can watch his webcam as he does the show (requires subscription, i think).  People still call in thinking that the guests are real.

If you haven't look up the skit titled "thunderbird"
 
2014-02-13 08:20:41 PM  
Let it die.  FM can go too as far as I care.

/Sirius FTW
 
2014-02-13 08:22:41 PM  

Dogpants: I once worked at a clear channel AM station that reached 38 states and 4 provinces of Canada after dark.  One time I got a postcard from a guy that was picking us up loud and clear in Iceland.  Crackpot preachers until midnight, then country music for the truckers overnight.  We'd get requests from all over the country.


Sounds like WWVA in Wheeling. I picked that up once as a kid and they were running announcements telling coal miners which shifts would be working at certain mines--and so, by extension, how well some of them would be eating in the coming days. They don't teach you stuff like that in school.
 
2014-02-13 08:23:44 PM  

fusillade762: Lee451: fusillade762: unlikely: AM Radio is safely in the hands of insane mouth-frothing right wingers. It doesn't need saving, it needs quarantine.

Came to say basically this.

I sense a lot of butthurt in the fact that absolutely no one listened to AirAmerica. Conservative opinions are far more prevalent than liberal ones. You'll grow up and get over it.

Liberals don't need an echo chamber to validate their beliefs.


Then why listen to MSNBC? Do they tell you what to believe?
 
2014-02-13 08:24:31 PM  

enry: Let it die.  FM can go too as far as I care.

/Sirius FTW


Sirius FTW?

You mean FM Lite, with censored songs, playlists as shallow as a high school cheerleader, and shiatty, over compressed sound that makes AM sound good?
 
2014-02-13 08:25:22 PM  

fusillade762: Lee451: fusillade762: unlikely: AM Radio is safely in the hands of insane mouth-frothing right wingers. It doesn't need saving, it needs quarantine.

Came to say basically this.

I sense a lot of butthurt in the fact that absolutely no one listened to AirAmerica. Conservative opinions are far more prevalent than liberal ones. You'll grow up and get over it.

Liberals don't need an echo chamber to validate their beliefs.


Exactly.  Who needs an echo chamber when you have this...

gallery.photo.net
 
2014-02-13 08:28:03 PM  
I remember listening to NYC and Chicago stations on the skip at night all the way in rural Rockbridge Co., Va when I was a kid.
 
2014-02-13 08:29:21 PM  

Branch Floridian: It still puts a smile on my face when I can pick up my hometown radio station (KMOX 1120 in St. Louis) in my car from over a thousand miles away.  Only at night or early morning, but still I think it is pretty cool.


I'm the same with WBBM 780 in Chicago.  On a clear night, I can pick it up with very little static.  Sometimes it makes me feel like I'm really not that far away.
 
2014-02-13 08:34:01 PM  
Let it die, then increase the permitted power from legal unlicensed transmitters for "neighborhood radio"...
 
2014-02-13 08:38:51 PM  
You had your time.
You had the power.
You've yet to have your finest hour.
 
2014-02-13 08:42:03 PM  
No, and thank god not. AM is inhabited solely by spittle-from-the-mouth religious and political herpa-derpers and listened to only by their frothing-at-the-brain followers. Let it die and be reclaimed for a real purpose -- the sooner, the better.

/in the US market; overseas not so much
 
2014-02-13 08:47:54 PM  

Representative of the unwashed masses: Branch Floridian: It still puts a smile on my face when I can pick up my hometown radio station (KMOX 1120 in St. Louis) in my car from over a thousand miles away.  Only at night or early morning, but still I think it is pretty cool.

I once was able to listen to a Los Angeles Dodgers game on an LA station one night when I was helping out on my uncles farm in Saskatchewan.  I thought that was pretty damn cool


This. I grew up in Saskatchewan and some nights you could go through the AM dial and get LA, Phoenix, etc.
 
2014-02-13 08:48:07 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: enry: Let it die.  FM can go too as far as I care.

/Sirius FTW

Sirius FTW?

You mean FM Lite, with censored songs, playlists as shallow as a high school cheerleader, and shiatty, over compressed sound that makes AM sound good?


Ah, no.  Haven't run into a single one of those problems.
 
2014-02-13 09:02:43 PM  

optikeye: I think it's in the best interested of the public. We have lots of older radios that only pick up AM. Tube style radios are immune to a EMP (Either from a Man Made or Natural). And to really put on your tin foil hat...Crystal Radios.
Don't even require a battery. And a six year old can build one.

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Also Digital Signals don't degrade gracefully...they are there are they're not so there's no "Buzzz...Crack" losing just a bit of info occasionally. If the Signal is week YOU GET NOTHING. (Wonka.jpg).


These.

Also, the AM band has very little usage possible other than what it is already being used for.  You know how sound quality on AM radio is crap?  Imagine what that means for data.  "Freeing up" the spectrum just means it'll sit there unused.  May as well make the most out of it.

Also, while the sound quality isn't great on AM, it's more than enough for news/talk/weather and even passable for certain types of music.  Rap and Hip Hop aren't going to do very well on AM, but Country and some Rock sound decent enough.  Getting sent to the middle of nowhere in Nevada for work sometimes I spent a good chunk of time listening to a "Classic Country" AM station from as far as 250 miles away, and the music sounded alright.  Not great, but alright.
 
2014-02-13 09:07:18 PM  
I equate AM radio with 3.5 minutes of 'talk' followed by 21 minutes of annoying radio ads. Effectively un-listenable.
 
2014-02-13 09:07:56 PM  

Lee451: B.B. Bumble and the Stingers, Mott the Hoople, Ray Charles Singers
Lonnie Mack and twangin' Eddy, here's my ring we're goin' steady
Take it easy, take me higher, liar liar, house on fire
Locomotion, Poco, Passion, Deeper Purple, Satisfaction
Baby baby gotta gotta gimme gimme gettin' hotter
Sammy's cookin', Lesley Gore and Ritchie Valens, end of story
Mahavishnu, fujiyama, kama-sutra, rama-lama
Richard Perry, Spector, Barry, Archies, Righteous, Nilsson, Harry
Shimmy shimmy ko-ko bop and Fats is back and Finger Poppin'


Life is a rock but the radio rolled me
Gotta turn it up louder, so my DJ told me (whoa whoa whoa whoa)
Life is a rock but the radio rolled me
At the end of my rainbow lies a golden oldie


Awesome song, I've got it on my iPod.
 
2014-02-13 09:16:13 PM  
There's something special about listening to a baseball game on AM radio... particularly on a hot summer night.  Sitting back after a nice grilled dinner, sipping on a freshly poured drink, and listening to the sounds of a summer evening mingle with the sounds of the game... pure amplitude modulating heaven.

I had a great AM radio experience once while driving back to Connecticut from Maryland.  The Boston Red Sox were playing the Baltimore Orioles.  I'd started listening to the Orioles home broadcast of the game on 1090-AM (WBAL out of Baltimore).  As I made my way north, and without touching the dial, I started picking up the  Red Sox away broadcast on 1080-AM (WTIC out of Hartford).  The atmospherics were such that, as one broadcast would fade out... the other would fade in.  For a good part of the drive, it made for a most unique listening experience.
 
2014-02-13 09:25:43 PM  

Lee451: fusillade762: unlikely: AM Radio is safely in the hands of insane mouth-frothing right wingers. It doesn't need saving, it needs quarantine.

Came to say basically this.

I sense a lot of butthurt in the fact that absolutely no one listened to AirAmerica. Conservative opinions are far more prevalent than liberal ones. You'll grow up and get over it.


Of course.  This is why Obama was elected twice.  Try again.

Right-wing derp radio sells because it's confrontational and sensational.
 
2014-02-13 09:29:17 PM  
Lee451:Conservative opinions are far more prevalent  louder than liberal ones.
 
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