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(Some Guy)   "Valentine's Day has become totally socialist" --some mom whose kindergartner will need therapy by age 8   (mommyish.com ) divider line
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2014-02-13 04:38:31 PM  
Your article makes Ralph Wiggum cry

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2014-02-13 04:39:38 PM  
CTRL-F "socialist"

None found.

Woman's got a point, as far as I'm concerned.
 
2014-02-13 04:40:23 PM  
How is that socialist?  Participation is voluntary.
 
2014-02-13 04:55:31 PM  
"Shielding kids from hurt feelings takes the fun out of Valentines Day" is true, I suppose, for that age group. But as soon as they're old enough for date rape the fun will be right back.
 
2014-02-13 05:01:53 PM  
Face it, nobody loved you when you were born.  They didn't love you in school and now you're forever alone.  Meanwhile Mama Boo-Boo has a boyfriend.
 
2014-02-13 05:04:10 PM  
I remember a lot of hurt feelings and wonder if they made me the anti-social I am today.
 
2014-02-13 05:05:14 PM  
I'm not seeing the Socialism aspect here. Where is the government control of the markets and economy?
 
2014-02-13 05:06:01 PM  
"What I'm surprised to see is this new policy of "avoiding hurt feelings" on every major occasion by making classroom interaction 100% fair.

Read more:  http://www.mommyish.com/2014/02/12/school-valentine-policy-new-jersey / #ixzz2tF5PfHwo "

 I'm sure she prefers a ratio of 70% fair in her dealings with people.
 
2014-02-13 05:06:35 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: Face it, nobody loved you when you were born.  They didn't love you in school and now you're forever alone.  Meanwhile Mama Boo-Boo has a boyfriend.


Didn't what's his face marry Mama Boo-Boo?
 
2014-02-13 05:06:40 PM  
You choo-choo-choose me?
 
2014-02-13 05:07:26 PM  

cgraves67: I'm not seeing the Socialism aspect here. Where is the government control of the markets and economy?


Forget it, they're rolling
 
2014-02-13 05:08:24 PM  
What's the fun of a group activity if you can't exclude someone?
 
2014-02-13 05:11:31 PM  
Its Kindergarten,

if you want to bring something bring enough for the whole class, that seems pretty reasonable.

/If this is offensive I recommend home schooling your kids to save them from the horrors of public education.
 
2014-02-13 05:12:14 PM  

cgraves67: I'm not seeing the Socialism aspect here. Where is the government control of the markets and economy?


It's not there yet, but IT'S COMING. JUST YOU WAIT!
 
2014-02-13 05:13:13 PM  
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2014-02-13 05:14:09 PM  

iheartscotch: Smeggy Smurf: Face it, nobody loved you when you were born.  They didn't love you in school and now you're forever alone.  Meanwhile Mama Boo-Boo has a boyfriend.

Didn't what's his face marry Mama Boo-Boo?


Beats me.  That's a lot of desperation if he did.  Either that or he has one enormous dick to be able to get it past those rolls of fat
 
2014-02-13 05:14:26 PM  
Man, she hit the nail on the head. I know I absolutely hate how my kids were deprived of social ranking by full class participation in kindergarten activities. Why, my daughter's in the eighth grade and STILL has nerdy friends in addition to preppy ones and athletic ones. Blacks and Mexicans and half breeds too.

Cliques should be established as early as possible to ensure appropriate and traditional social stratification.

///I will admit this kind of policy is a pain in the ass when you have to go all cloak and dagger with third graders because you can't invite 22 of them to your kids birthday sleepover.
 
2014-02-13 05:14:51 PM  
Obvious fauxrage is obvious fauxrage.

My youngest is in 2nd grade and they send out a list of each kid's first name with the expectation that you will send each classmate a valentine...it's really not that big of a deal since they come in packs of 15 or 25 or whatever...

It's not socialistic...its teaching your kids to not be an inconsiderate dickhead.

Now...I wholeheartedly agree with the notion that we are creating an entire generation of pussies and wimps with zero coping skills because Mommy and Daddy try to protect their precious little snowflake from everything, but this is not the sword you should be falling on lady.
 
2014-02-13 05:15:55 PM  
Smeggy Smurf: Face it, nobody loved you when you were born.  They didn't love you in school and now you're forever alone.  Meanwhile Mama Boo-Boo has a boyfriend.

Maybe they didn't love her in school because she was stuck up.  She's got a kid, so she's not living a monastic life now.  And, I'd sort rather have her as a girlfriend than Mama June.


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2014-02-13 05:16:33 PM  
Lady, I hate to break it to you, but that ship mostly sailed in the 70's.

/I had to do it & I'm old
//Think of it as the school's way of saving you from your next article.
///About how your snowflake is more popular than you ever were.
 
2014-02-13 05:16:38 PM  
For fark's sake, of course you give a card to every kid in the class so that, for instance, the kid with developmental problems in my daughter's kindergarten isn't made miserable.
 
2014-02-13 05:16:51 PM  
How awful it is for conservatives to do something small to make life just a little bit better for others.
 
2014-02-13 05:17:18 PM  
Couldn't read it. There was a big douche ad in the way.

/ohh
 
2014-02-13 05:18:10 PM  
WTF? Ain't no holiday more capitalistic than Valentine's day, based on how much it's cost me so far.
 
2014-02-13 05:18:21 PM  
Life in the real world isn't fair because of assholes who respond to any attempt to make it fair with "Life isn't fair. Suck it."
 
2014-02-13 05:18:23 PM  
This reminds me of the bullshiat "compatibility test" that my high school did every Valentines Day. You fill out a survey and you find out which classmates had the most similar results and the percentage of similarity. I guess they were trying to prepare us for the stomach-churning experience and lonely desperation of internet dating.
 
2014-02-13 05:20:30 PM  
Sorry, this was the policy in elementary schools in Eastern Bumfark North Carolina in the 80s.  This mom can take her high horse and gallop under a low branch in the hopes it knocks some sense into her.

/children can be vile, evil little shiats; making them put a Valentine in everybody's box is the least we can do when humanizing them through social interaction
 
2014-02-13 05:20:46 PM  

cgraves67: I'm not seeing the Socialism aspect here. Where is the government control of the markets and economy?


You forgot, that's the Oldthink definition of socialism.

The Newthink definition, brought to us by the RNC/FOX News is that it's any time the government (other than a Republican elected official or an official appointed by them) tells you to do anything that is any way considerate of other people or helps society as a whole.

. . .frankly, I don't see the problem.  My grade school had a similar policy ~30 years ago.
 
2014-02-13 05:22:25 PM  
Yep, I remember doing this as well, and this was in the '80s in the liberal socialist paradise of Kansas.
 
2014-02-13 05:22:56 PM  

UNC_Samurai: Sorry, this was the policy in elementary schools in Eastern Bumfark North Carolina in the 80s.  This mom can take her high horse and gallop under a low branch in the hopes it knocks some sense into her.

/children can be vile, evil little shiats; making them put a Valentine in everybody's box is the least we can do when humanizing them through social interaction


Elementary schools in Northwestern Bumfark Ohio in the 70's here.
 
2014-02-13 05:23:56 PM  
All right, #1, this is for a farking Kindergarten class, OK? If you want to make Sam jealous by sending a carnation to Brad in middle school, fine, but is it really so terrible that we don't expect 5 and 6 year olds to be able to deal with this sort of thing?

Good Lord, people. I guess also don't forget to charge your toddler a dollar extra for his juice box when you're about to run out, supply and demand don't you know. Also, remember to pick up The Jungle at the library for bedtime reading.
 
2014-02-13 05:24:40 PM  
The only real issue is not being able to put names on the envelopes.  They get handed out at random, so you can't make a special card for one particular person.
 
2014-02-13 05:25:43 PM  
This policy isn't new.  I remember having to bring a card for everyone thirty-odd years ago.


Calmamity: CTRL-F "socialist"

None found.

Woman's got a point, as far as I'm concerned.


Could you please summarize her point?  Because I'm sort of confused as to what it was.  From what I could tell, Ms. Ramos didn't object per se to the requirement that children bring a card for each student.  She objected to the school's decision to avoid adding a totally foreseeable instance of hurt feelings to all the serendipitous instances of hurt feelings that will already teach the children that the world is a cold, unjust place.  Was that the point that you're endorsing?  Because I'm not on board with that one.  I do, however (and despite not having read the article), endorse Ms. Ramos' view that wives should fellate their husbands for completing chores.
 
2014-02-13 05:26:10 PM  
I was in elementary school in the 70's and that was the policy at my school, as well. If you brought Valentines, you had to bring one for everyone. If you brought food, you brought enough for the whole class, plus the teacher :)

My 2nd grade Valentines, both my brother and I were home at the same time due to chicken pox (Mom drank heavily that year), and a friend brought us both a sackful of Valentines and candy from our respective classrooms.

I think the rest of your life is plenty of time to realize that not everyone likes you, and you will definitely learn that if you spend 12 years in school. So how about give the little kids a chance to have a good time and not drag politics into every little thing about school?
 
2014-02-13 05:28:12 PM  
They don't put names on the cards because most of the kids can't read at that age, so then it falls onto the teacher/caregiver to sort the snot covered cards and hand them out.  It's like herding cats.
 
2014-02-13 05:29:25 PM  

turtle553: The only real issue is not being able to put names on the envelopes.  They get handed out at random, so you can't make a special card for one particular person.


And that is a shame
 
2014-02-13 05:30:38 PM  

Crass and Jaded Mother Farker: Lady, I hate to break it to you, but that ship mostly sailed in the 70's.

/I had to do it & I'm old
//Think of it as the school's way of saving you from your next article.
///About how your snowflake is more popular than you ever were.


Yeah, I was gonna say this.  Same rule, over 30 years ago.  Bring them for everybody, or don't bring them.
 
2014-02-13 05:31:01 PM  

iheartscotch: Smeggy Smurf: Face it, nobody loved you when you were born.  They didn't love you in school and now you're forever alone.  Meanwhile Mama Boo-Boo has a boyfriend.

Didn't what's his face marry Mama Boo-Boo?


They had a "commitment ceremony". Don't ask me why I know that. :(
 
2014-02-13 05:32:10 PM  
Dear Some Mom,

My office takes most major insurances. Here's my card.
I'll see your kid in therapy.
Thank you for keeping me in a job.  Stay Stupid!

Love,
cowgirl toffee
 
2014-02-13 05:32:14 PM  
Nah, socialist would be bringing no cards and the teacher still made everybody give you one.
 
2014-02-13 05:34:06 PM  

Prey4reign: Smeggy Smurf: Face it, nobody loved you when you were born.  They didn't love you in school and now you're forever alone.  Meanwhile Mama Boo-Boo has a boyfriend.

Maybe they didn't love her in school because she was stuck up.  She's got a kid, so she's not living a monastic life now.  And, I'd sort rather have her as a girlfriend than Mama June.


Hmm... I'm getting a 'this chick filmed cuckold porn' vibe from her.

/puts on lab coat.

Time for research!
 
2014-02-13 05:35:31 PM  

johnnieconnie: I was in elementary school in the 70's and that was the policy at my school, as well. If you brought Valentines, you had to bring one for everyone. If you brought food, you brought enough for the whole class, plus the teacher :)

My 2nd grade Valentines, both my brother and I were home at the same time due to chicken pox (Mom drank heavily that year), and a friend brought us both a sackful of Valentines and candy from our respective classrooms.

I think the rest of your life is plenty of time to realize that not everyone likes you, and you will definitely learn that if you spend 12 years in school. So how about give the little kids a chance to have a good time and not drag politics into every little thing about school?


I was in elementary school in the 60's and we did the same thing. If someone really liked you, they might put a couple of candy hearts in your card, but everyone gave cards to everyone else.
 
2014-02-13 05:35:43 PM  
Did this in the 60's, y'all get the hell off my lawn, kids need to be taught manners and consideration, otherwise they grow up to be Teabaggers
 
2014-02-13 05:37:55 PM  
Making sure you have enough for the class is a tradition that has been going on since I was in elementary school, and people my age have kids who are a little bit older than that.

So they have to bring some for everybody if they decide to bring anything at all. They'll get over having to share with the unpopular kids, I promise.
 
2014-02-13 05:38:18 PM  
"Shielding kids from hurt feelings takes the fun out of Valentines Day"

Uh...doesn't that sound a bit sociopathic? The assertion that unless someone gets hurt it's no fun? Um yeah...ok lady...

These are kindergartners for godsake. When I was that age in '91 we had the same policy. I remember trying to pick out the BEST card with my parents to impress everyone and handing them out. The kids with really crappy/cheap cards still got made fun of, so if you MUST have your sadistic pleasure in other's hurt feelings, there you go.
If we wanted to give better or more personal cards to close friends we had the option of doing so outside of school or at recess or something, AFTER we gave the run of the mill cards to the rest of the class.

Don't worry, your kid and other kids will have plenty of time to feel rejected, alone, and outcast come middle school. But for little kids it's all about teaching them NOT to be pricks, since they're pretty much naturally inclined to be ones anyway.
 
2014-02-13 05:39:17 PM  

notatrollorami: Man, she hit the nail on the head. I know I absolutely hate how my kids were deprived of social ranking by full class participation in kindergarten activities. Why, my daughter's in the eighth grade and STILL has nerdy friends in addition to preppy ones and athletic ones. Blacks and Mexicans and half breeds too.

Cliques should be established as early as possible to ensure appropriate and traditional social stratification.

///I will admit this kind of policy is a pain in the ass when you have to go all cloak and dagger with third graders because you can't invite 22 of them to your kids birthday sleepover.


That problem is easily solved by not having your kid give them their invites at school.
 
2014-02-13 05:39:24 PM  
You'll wish you gave Jeremy a valentine when he shoots up the high school cafeteria a few years down the road.
 
2014-02-13 05:39:50 PM  
Here's the kid in twenty years:
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2014-02-13 05:40:40 PM  
There will be half-priced candy on Feb 15th!
i1.ytimg.comHop in that van and get that candy!
 
2014-02-13 05:41:24 PM  
When I was in elementary school in the early 80's, we basically had the same policy.  Only difference was you could have special gifts for your friends, just as long as everyone got something.  This was a policy adopted from the 60's

Nothing new.
 
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