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2014-02-13 02:38:43 PM  
Has any American professional athlete come out of the closet and successfully kept their career as an active athlete? Jason Collins hasn't played since other have come out after they retired. I bet Michael Sam goes undated.
 
2014-02-13 02:50:46 PM  

borg: Has any American professional athlete come out of the closet and successfully kept their career as an active athlete? Jason Collins hasn't played since other have come out after they retired. I bet Michael Sam goes undated.


I'm assuming you mean 'undrafted'.

Would you like to back up that claim with a bet? I'll take pretty much any amount below 10 grand.
 
2014-02-13 02:52:10 PM  

Tigger: borg: Has any American professional athlete come out of the closet and successfully kept their career as an active athlete? Jason Collins hasn't played since other have come out after they retired. I bet Michael Sam goes undated.

I'm assuming you mean 'undrafted'.

Would you like to back up that claim with a bet? I'll take pretty much any amount below 10 grand.


Damn you autocorrect !!!!!
 
2014-02-13 02:55:33 PM  

borg: Has any American professional athlete come out of the closet and successfully kept their career as an active athlete? Jason Collins hasn't played since other have come out after they retired. I bet Michael Sam goes undated.


Robbie Rogers was picked up by the LA Galaxy after announcing he is gay.
 
2014-02-13 03:02:42 PM  

Tigger: borg: Has any American professional athlete come out of the closet and successfully kept their career as an active athlete? Jason Collins hasn't played since other have come out after they retired. I bet Michael Sam goes undated.

I'm assuming you mean 'undrafted'.


I'm assuming Borg has some subliminal issues.

/Paging Dr. Freud, to the thread about big, husky men in tight pants rolling around together.
 
2014-02-13 03:06:36 PM  

borg: Has any American professional athlete come out of the closet and successfully kept their career as an active athlete? Jason Collins hasn't played since other have come out after they retired. I bet Michael Sam goes undated.


Do WNBA players count?
 
2014-02-13 03:11:28 PM  

borg: Has any American professional athlete come out of the closet and successfully kept their career as an active athlete? Jason Collins hasn't played since other have come out after they retired. I bet Michael Sam goes undated.


There have been a few players who were openly gay within the confines of the locker room, just not "press conference" open.
 
2014-02-13 03:12:08 PM  

borg: Tigger: borg: Has any American professional athlete come out of the closet and successfully kept their career as an active athlete? Jason Collins hasn't played since other have come out after they retired. I bet Michael Sam goes undated.

I'm assuming you mean 'undrafted'.

Would you like to back up that claim with a bet? I'll take pretty much any amount below 10 grand.

Damn you autocorrect !!!!!


Any interest in actually betting that Sam goes undrafted though - I'm assuming that bit wasn't a victim of autocorrect.
 
2014-02-13 03:14:57 PM  
I had no idea Stallworth's drunk driving ass was that well-spoken (or written).  Despite that perception, in a bit of...irony?...his lengthy explanation defeats the entire premise of the brevity of Twitter.
 
2014-02-13 03:19:57 PM  

rumpelstiltskin: borg: Has any American professional athlete come out of the closet and successfully kept their career as an active athlete? Jason Collins hasn't played since other have come out after they retired. I bet Michael Sam goes undated.

Do WNBA players count?


has any  player come out as straight in the WNBA?
 
2014-02-13 03:20:09 PM  
Third Sam related green today. Gonna be a long 3 months til the draft.
 
2014-02-13 03:23:23 PM  
Clever move on his part. He'll get drafted by a major market team, as opposed to some podunk loser team.
 
2014-02-13 03:24:18 PM  
Cool story and all. That being said, I don't think Donte Stallworth understands how Twitter is supposed to work.
 
2014-02-13 03:25:49 PM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: Third Sam related green today. Gonna be a long 3 months til the draft.


Free Agency next month.
 
2014-02-13 03:26:44 PM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: Third Sam related green today. Gonna be a long 3 months til the draft.


I think that's the advantage to coming out so early. Get all this bs out of the way now so everyone's used to it by the time he actually plays in a game.
 
2014-02-13 03:31:47 PM  

borg: Has any American professional athlete come out of the closet and successfully kept their career as an active athlete? Jason Collins hasn't played since other have come out after they retired. I bet Michael Sam goes undated.


That. Is. Awesome.
 
2014-02-13 03:32:50 PM  

Serious Black: borg: Has any American professional athlete come out of the closet and successfully kept their career as an active athlete? Jason Collins hasn't played since other have come out after they retired. I bet Michael Sam goes undated.

Robbie Rogers was picked up by the LA Galaxy after announcing he is gay.


He said "athlete."
 
2014-02-13 03:37:24 PM  
As a fan of the Saints and the Tennessee Volunteers, I am very proud of seeing a former Vol and Saints player make this argument. Well done, Donte.
 
2014-02-13 03:42:02 PM  

AliceBToklasLives: Ow! That was my feelings!: Third Sam related green today. Gonna be a long 3 months til the draft.

I think that's the advantage to coming out so early. Get all this bs out of the way now so everyone's used to it by the time he actually plays in a game.


By the time draft day rolls around, everybody's going to be bored with in and have moved on to whatever the next big story is, same as everyone was bored with Teo's fake girlfriend.
 
2014-02-13 03:44:23 PM  

Serious Black: borg: Has any American professional athlete come out of the closet and successfully kept their career as an active athlete? Jason Collins hasn't played since other have come out after they retired. I bet Michael Sam goes undated.

Robbie Rogers was picked up by the LA Galaxy after announcing he is gay.


Robbie Rogers strong armed Chicago to send him to LA because if they didn't honor it, he'd refuse to play and sulk around to try and get sympathy votes.

Joke's on LA though. Chicago got Mike Magee out of the trade and he damn near carried the team into the playoffs last season and won the MVP. They'll probably be one of the contenders in the East. Meanwhile Robbie Rogers is just...well Robbie Rogers.
 
2014-02-13 03:48:18 PM  

simplicimus: Clever move on his part. He'll get drafted by a major market team, as opposed to some podunk loser team.


Because Eagles and Jets fans are paragons of acceptance.

/Vince Lombardi's brother was gay and if he can catch Kaepernick and Wilson I doubt many Packer fans would care what he was into.
 
2014-02-13 03:51:33 PM  
There's a chance that Michael Sam goes undrafted and it can have nothing to do with his sexual orientation. He's an undersized DE that will have to be converted to outside LP on a team that plays 3-4... if the teams plays 4-3, he might not have the speed to drop to cover the middle zone where a TE or inside WR would look for a pass.
 
2014-02-13 03:52:28 PM  

Tommy Moo: Cool story and all. That being said, I don't think Donte Stallworth understands how Twitter is supposed to work.


My thoughts as well. The guy's like Captain America in Texts from Superheroes.
 
2014-02-13 03:53:09 PM  
The 49ers should draft him just for lulz
 
2014-02-13 03:55:30 PM  
I'm not arguing against his point, but his argument that the Patriots overcame the media coverage of Tebow/Hernandez while the Dolphins succumbed to the Incognito/Martin ordeal is complete rubbish. One of the teams is the Patriots, and the other is the freaking Dolphins. One team has a recent history of winning, and the other is the Dolphins.

/it sounds like he wants to be back on the Pats
 
2014-02-13 03:56:24 PM  

Ken VeryBigLiar: simplicimus: Clever move on his part. He'll get drafted by a major market team, as opposed to some podunk loser team.

Because Eagles and Jets fans are paragons of acceptance.

/Vince Lombardi's brother was gay and if he can catch Kaepernick and Wilson I doubt many Packer fans would care what he was into.


I doubt acceptance would be a problem in SF, Seattle or NYC. Heck, there was even a sportscaster, 30 years experience, in Dallas who compared this to the league accepting blacks. Same lame arguments from the league, disruption in the locker room, etc.
 
2014-02-13 03:57:19 PM  

square028: Serious Black: borg: Has any American professional athlete come out of the closet and successfully kept their career as an active athlete? Jason Collins hasn't played since other have come out after they retired. I bet Michael Sam goes undated.

Robbie Rogers was picked up by the LA Galaxy after announcing he is gay.

Robbie Rogers strong armed Chicago to send him to LA because if they didn't honor it, he'd refuse to play and sulk around to try and get sympathy votes.

Joke's on LA though. Chicago got Mike Magee out of the trade and he damn near carried the team into the playoffs last season and won the MVP. They'll probably be one of the contenders in the East. Meanwhile Robbie Rogers is just...well Robbie Rogers.


So? Is he not an active athlete in an American professional sports league? Not every basketball player can be LeBron James. Not every soccer player can be Ronaldo. Not every football player can be Peyton Manning.
 
2014-02-13 03:57:55 PM  

rynthetyn: AliceBToklasLives: Ow! That was my feelings!: Third Sam related green today. Gonna be a long 3 months til the draft.

I think that's the advantage to coming out so early. Get all this bs out of the way now so everyone's used to it by the time he actually plays in a game.

By the time draft day rolls around, everybody's going to be bored with in and have moved on to whatever the next big story is, same as everyone was bored with Teo's fake girlfriend.


Yes but that was about homosexuality too, as said by the posters who had trouble wrapping their heads around the fact that guys could pretend to be girls on the Internet and all that.

It was funny, then it got dragged out, then I wanted to beat people with a cricket bat.
 
2014-02-13 04:00:43 PM  
New Orleans needs some defensive players.  Did they not just cut a handful to clear some cap space?
 
2014-02-13 04:05:19 PM  
Oh hey the second gay story in three headlines -- maybe we should change the 'sports' tab to 'politics' instead?
 
2014-02-13 04:07:07 PM  

enik: Oh hey the second gay story in three headlines -- maybe we should change the 'sports' tab to 'politics' instead?


being gay isn't political.
 
2014-02-13 04:07:40 PM  

Nabb1: As a fan of the Saints and the Tennessee Volunteers, I am very proud of seeing a former Vol and Saints player make this argument. Well done, Donte.


Yeah he's a real treasure, he killed someone with his car, he loves the gays. You guys should build him a farking statue.
 
2014-02-13 04:09:17 PM  

ddam: There's a chance that Michael Sam goes undrafted and it can have nothing to do with his sexual orientation. He's an undersized DE that will have to be converted to outside LP on a team that plays 3-4... if the teams plays 4-3, he might not have the speed to drop to cover the middle zone where a TE or inside WR would look for a pass.


He shouldn't go undrafted based on his skills alone, but you're right that despite what some have said about him being "the best defensive player in college" he's a mid-round pick if he wasn't gay. There's concerns about his size and speed (not fast enough to drop into coverage as a LB, not large enough for DE), but not enough that he should go undrafted. Just ignore those who say he'd be a first round/second round pick if it wasn't for his orientation - it's not true.
 
2014-02-13 04:23:26 PM  

SkittlesAreYum: ddam: There's a chance that Michael Sam goes undrafted and it can have nothing to do with his sexual orientation. He's an undersized DE that will have to be converted to outside LP on a team that plays 3-4... if the teams plays 4-3, he might not have the speed to drop to cover the middle zone where a TE or inside WR would look for a pass.

He shouldn't go undrafted based on his skills alone, but you're right that despite what some have said about him being "the best defensive player in college" he's a mid-round pick if he wasn't gay. There's concerns about his size and speed (not fast enough to drop into coverage as a LB, not large enough for DE), but not enough that he should go undrafted. Just ignore those who say he'd be a first round/second round pick if it wasn't for his orientation - it's not true.


Yeah, if he could shave 2 tenths off of his 40, he'd be a great LB prospect, but a 4.8 is just too slow. Maybe if he blows them away at the combine, but I don't see it happening. Word is he lacks the pass rush instincts to really compete as a situational rusher in the NFL too.
 
2014-02-13 04:32:40 PM  

JohnnyRebel88: New Orleans needs some defensive players.  Did they not just cut a handful to clear some cap space?


Saints play a 3-4 and he plays the same position as Akiem Hicks.  NO is unlikely to draft him.  There's a big difference between needing defensive players and needing a 4-3 Left End.
 
2014-02-13 04:34:33 PM  

skrame: I'm not arguing against his point, but his argument that the Patriots overcame the media coverage of Tebow/Hernandez while the Dolphins succumbed to the Incognito/Martin ordeal is complete rubbish. One of the teams is the Patriots, and the other is the freaking Dolphins. One team has a recent history of winning, and the other is the Dolphins.

/it sounds like he wants to be back on the Pats


You need to read his tweets again, that actually was his point. Winning organizations like the Pats don't let things like this become distractions. While some loser organization like the Dolphins would, and that is why the fail, over and over again.
 
2014-02-13 04:34:57 PM  

Uzzah: Serious Black: borg: Has any American professional athlete come out of the closet and successfully kept their career as an active athlete? Jason Collins hasn't played since other have come out after they retired. I bet Michael Sam goes undated.

Robbie Rogers was picked up by the LA Galaxy after announcing he is gay.

He said "athlete."


shiat, there goes my Brian Boitano comment
 
2014-02-13 04:37:36 PM  
The Browns should draft him.  They've sucked dick for as long as I've been watching football.
 
2014-02-13 04:38:18 PM  

rumpelstiltskin: borg: Has any American professional athlete come out of the closet and successfully kept their career as an active athlete? Jason Collins hasn't played since other have come out after they retired. I bet Michael Sam goes undated.

Do WNBA players count?


Only if scissoring suddenly becomes a professional sport.
 
2014-02-13 04:42:24 PM  

Tommy Moo: Cool story and all. That being said, I don't think Donte Stallworth understands how Twitter is supposed to work.


Here he is being discussed.

Seems to have the concept right.
 
2014-02-13 04:51:41 PM  

enik: Oh hey the second gay story in three headlines -- maybe we should change the 'sports' tab to 'politics' instead?


If sexuality is political, better throw in the story about Alex Cobb proposing to his girlfriend.
 
2014-02-13 05:03:25 PM  

Shame Us: Maybe if he blows them away at the combine



you really had to do that?  wow dude.  i thought you were better than that.

sad day on sports tab.
 
2014-02-13 05:04:49 PM  

Semper IvXx: Nabb1: As a fan of the Saints and the Tennessee Volunteers, I am very proud of seeing a former Vol and Saints player make this argument. Well done, Donte.

Yeah he's a real treasure, he killed someone with his car, he loves the gays. You guys should build him a farking statue.


Hey, it never hurt Laura Bush.
 
2014-02-13 05:05:27 PM  

borg: Has any American professional athlete come out of the closet and successfully kept their career as an active athlete? Jason Collins hasn't played since other have come out after they retired. I bet Michael Sam goes undated.


Pretty sure Manti Te'o's fake, internet girlfriend, whose voice sounded suspiciously like his good friend's voice "came out" without having to say "I'm gay."
 
2014-02-13 05:05:30 PM  

Ken VeryBigLiar: simplicimus: Clever move on his part. He'll get drafted by a major market team, as opposed to some podunk loser team.

Because Eagles and Jets fans are paragons of acceptance.


Eagles fan here.  I think I speak for a lot of us that I don't care who he's in the sack with, only that he can sack the other guys.  (Heh)  Philly fans have a reputation for being thugs, but they love winners: draft someone who's going to put Romo or RGIII in the dirt a few times a season and you'll see plenty of his jerseys around.

/Birds need a safety or CB more than a conversion project at LB
 
2014-02-13 05:07:17 PM  

Nabb1: As a fan of the Saints and the Tennessee Volunteers, I am very proud of seeing a former Vol and Saints player make this argument. Well done, Donte.


Same.  You take the person that will help you win.  That's the point.  If he will help a team win, then he will be drafted and people will get over it.
 
2014-02-13 05:07:32 PM  

simplicimus: Ken VeryBigLiar: simplicimus: Clever move on his part. He'll get drafted by a major market team, as opposed to some podunk loser team.

Because Eagles and Jets fans are paragons of acceptance.

/Vince Lombardi's brother was gay and if he can catch Kaepernick and Wilson I doubt many Packer fans would care what he was into.

I doubt acceptance would be a problem in SF, Seattle or NYC. Heck, there was even a sportscaster, 30 years experience, in Dallas who compared this to the league accepting blacks. Same lame arguments from the league, disruption in the locker room, etc.


Wasn't it a 49er who spoke out against having a gay guy on the team last year? Concerning players, I don't think the team matters, since most players are from somewhere else anyways.

If you're taking about the fans in these towns, how does NYC make the list? Are they known for their tolerance? I hadn't heard that before, and wouldn't have guessed that they were any different from any other large city.
 
2014-02-13 05:12:12 PM  

skrame: Wasn't it a 49er who spoke out against having a gay guy on the team last year?



yeah, some scrub as i recall during super bowl week, a backup made some comment like, "i ain't down with the sweetness, gotta get that stuff all up outta here" in response to a question about a gay teammate.

I think it is pretty cool dude came out.  i hope he succeeds and a team isn't lame and passes on him because he's gay.  players with criminal records get drafted, why should his orientation matter?
 
2014-02-13 05:25:35 PM  

SkittlesAreYum: ddam: There's a chance that Michael Sam goes undrafted and it can have nothing to do with his sexual orientation. He's an undersized DE that will have to be converted to outside LP on a team that plays 3-4... if the teams plays 4-3, he might not have the speed to drop to cover the middle zone where a TE or inside WR would look for a pass.

He shouldn't go undrafted based on his skills alone, but you're right that despite what some have said about him being "the best defensive player in college" he's a mid-round pick if he wasn't gay. There's concerns about his size and speed (not fast enough to drop into coverage as a LB, not large enough for DE), but not enough that he should go undrafted. Just ignore those who say he'd be a first round/second round pick if it wasn't for his orientation - it's not true.


I think we're going to see the Russell Wilson effect this draft. Everyone will be scouting for the "too slow or short guy with determination."
 
2014-02-13 05:31:55 PM  
The Patriots could handle the media circus. Unfortunately, they're still looking for someone to replace Gronk and Hernandez, and he might not fit well to help the D.
 
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