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2014-02-13 03:13:05 PM
They couldn't have been that smart to begin with, or they wouldn't have gotten married.
 
2014-02-13 03:15:11 PM
Are they counting a degree in "Women's Studies" or "Psychology" as education here?
 
2014-02-13 03:17:13 PM
Maybe I'm just childish but I can't get past the author's name... Wendy Wang...

/Wife has four degrees
//I have have one
 
2014-02-13 03:17:37 PM
And the husbands still make more money, so who's smrt now?
 
2014-02-13 03:18:39 PM
Since, ideally, I was going to have to talk to her for the rest of my life. I decided to go for someone smarter than me. Marriage, my friends, is virtually all conversation.
 
2014-02-13 03:19:53 PM
Well I learned only to leave the toilet seat up on purpose to tease her.

I mean seriously, LOOK DOWN DUMMY.
 
2014-02-13 03:21:24 PM
Mrs. Tomahawk has a master's and I've only got a B.S.  I still make more though, which is pretty farked up.
 
2014-02-13 03:22:21 PM
So this means we should revoke Title IX?
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2014-02-13 03:22:33 PM

Tomahawk513: Mrs. Tomahawk has a master's and I've only got a B.S.  I still make more though, which is pretty farked up.


Actually when you think about it, she gets all of her money and half of yours....
 
2014-02-13 03:24:00 PM

Copper Spork: Are they counting a degree in "Women's Studies" or "Psychology" as education here?


Why is the milk at the back corner of a grocery store, and why are candies sold at the checkout?

Why does the music playing in the background have no words and is around 100bpm?

Why is the colors yellow and red worn most often in fast-food uniforms?

How come every commercial shows happy and smiling people when they're trying to sell you a product you don't *need*?


Psychology, it makes farking money.
 
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2014-02-13 03:25:50 PM
Yeah but my wife can't find her way down the street without her GPS
 
2014-02-13 03:27:00 PM
no matter who or what, marrying down is just not a nice way of describing this, particularly when it comes to education.  I have all them speshul degrees and other certification nonsense, but in the general sense of education, I don't think I've ever been as smart as I was somewhere between 11th grade and high school graduation.
I think I'd accept marrying down education-wise if you were comparing marriage between a PhD(or multiple) and a GED (or less)
 
2014-02-13 03:30:41 PM
My wife read this to me, and she said I agree.
 
2014-02-13 03:33:10 PM
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Nope?
 
2014-02-13 03:34:38 PM
He only began learning once I got the taser.
 
2014-02-13 03:38:23 PM
but when it is asked the answer is always "NO"
according to my wife anyway
 
2014-02-13 03:40:07 PM

Agent Smiths Laugh: They couldn't have been that smart to begin with, or they wouldn't have gotten married.


DONE . IN . ONE
 
2014-02-13 03:41:36 PM
I have a Bachelor's Degree in Math, Mr. KJUW89 only has some community college education but he (a) knows more and (b) makes more, which is fine with me.

/I'm happy being an "Individual Contributor", he's an IT Manager.
 
2014-02-13 03:43:58 PM

cowgirl toffee: He only began learning once I got the taser.


Shock collars are also effective.
 
2014-02-13 03:46:43 PM

fiddlehead: cowgirl toffee: He only began learning once I got the taser.

Shock collars are also effective.


Yeah... I used those until he finally started to get the concept of "heel, sit, and stay".
 
2014-02-13 03:47:41 PM
It's anti-intellectualism by the GOP is taking it's toll.  Who wants to be some over educated fairy amirite?  All you need is some common sense, a hammer, and a truck -- at least until the liberals ban them all.


It's what social decline looks like.
 
2014-02-13 03:48:00 PM
Did a search on the current ratio, found <a href="http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2013/02/21/new-book-explains -why-wo men-outpace-men-education">this gem</a> regarding the gap.

Gender stereotypes are also at play, the authors found. Boys have historically been trained to think that they needn't obey rules or work hard because men used to be able to drop out of high school and still earn wages comparable to better-educated women, thanks to jobs in fields like manufacturing, construction and travel. That's not the case anymore.

"Anymore?"  When the fark was that ever the case?  Speaking as someone who graduated high school over 20 years ago, that was NEVER EVER EVER a motivating factor I gleaned, heard, noticed, learned, etc from any male, ever.  Ever.  Ever.

One does not go into construction because one thinks it beats the pay of college folk - of either gender.  I dunno, a lot of the rest of the article is ridiculous as well, but...whatever.  Mayhaps the lack of real grades, competition, etc is why males are no longer motivated?   Education has been re-engineered starting at preschool in such a way that produces far less-"educated" individuals - people who have degrees (and even honors, etc) - yet are not in the least ready for college.  Worse, people who have college degrees from respected schools, and are not in the least ready for the workplace, or graduate degrees.   The education re-engineering which happened didn't help women, it merely hurt men more than it hurt women.  Higher education, at about the same time, became easier to obtain - and more culturally expected.  Information age being what it is, and all.

Who still knows calculus?  Chemistry?  Physics?  History?  Can keep themselves from ending sentences with a preposition?  No one.  And golly gosh, our exponential lead over the entire rest of the world combined has, during that period of education re-engineering, been overtaken by what had been a third-world country recently but who still actually educates their children.   Funny, that.
 
2014-02-13 03:51:38 PM
Well, duh.

Women have outpaced men in percentage of college graduates since 1982. Grad school is even more skewed. More women than men graduate from high schools, too.
 
2014-02-13 03:51:43 PM

rkiller1: So this means we should revoke Title IX?
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Sure. As soon as we stop covering up for rapists athletes.
 
2014-02-13 04:00:36 PM
This is all a lot of words and I didn't once see the words "video games"
 
2014-02-13 04:02:45 PM

Copper Spork: Are they counting a degree in "Women's Studies" or "Psychology" as education here?


Came to say something like this.

Look at the proportion of men in fields that only need a B.S. to get a job vs women.

I graduated college in 2009, had a job within a week with a B.S. The girl I was dating couldn't find a job, so she went to grad school (international relations and politics or some such).

Anecdotal, yes, but women are more highly represented in majors that require an advanced degree just to get a job.
 
2014-02-13 04:08:46 PM
Gender stereotypes are also at play, the authors found. Boys have historically been trained to think that they needn't obey rules or work hard because men used to be able to drop out of high school and still earn wages comparable to better-educated women, thanks to jobs in fields like manufacturing, construction and travel. That's not the case anymore.

Wait, I thought gender stereotypes told boys that they were supposed to go on and monopolize all the college spots for comp. sci., engineering, physics, and anything else that was worth taking.

The lesson of the day is, apparently, that 'gender stereotypes' do whatever the hell you want them to do to support your point.

Make up your goddam minds.
 
2014-02-13 04:19:06 PM
ARE our husbands learning English?
 
2014-02-13 04:21:34 PM

DarnoKonrad: It's anti-intellectualism by the GOP is taking it's toll.


It's the bankrupting of education budgets by union greed that is taking its toll.
 
2014-02-13 04:35:38 PM

Thingster: Copper Spork: Are they counting a degree in "Women's Studies" or "Psychology" as education here?

Came to say something like this.

Look at the proportion of men in fields that only need a B.S. to get a job vs women.

I graduated college in 2009, had a job within a week with a B.S. The girl I was dating couldn't find a job, so she went to grad school (international relations and politics or some such).

Anecdotal, yes, but women are more highly represented in majors that require an advanced degree just to get a job.


I have the impression that for social work and teaching, getting a masters is very common and may even be the only way to get an entry level job, whereas for computer programming, it's pretty rare to have more than a bachelor's and a lot of people don't even have that.
 
2014-02-13 04:38:26 PM
If you got divorced, you know the answer to that question.
 
2014-02-13 04:45:13 PM

Shryke: DarnoKonrad: It's anti-intellectualism by the GOP is taking it's toll.

It's the bankrupting of education budgets by union greed that is taking its toll.


You know that if the achievement scores of kids taught by non-union teachers were lower than that of  kids taught by union teachers you'd be on shaky ground?
 
2014-02-13 04:56:29 PM
yakmans_dad: Marriage, my friends, is virtually all conversation.

And some yelling.
And if you're lucky, periods of dead silence.
 
2014-02-13 04:58:08 PM
there is definitely a trend in attendance and degrees obtainment but I know of a lot of "degreed" women opting to stay home with the kids, including a couple with pHds.  I don't know of a single degreed dad who has made the same choice.

i think a  more useful number would be how many women with college degrees are utilizing their educations 5-15 years after graduation.
 
2014-02-13 05:01:47 PM

DarnoKonrad: It's anti-intellectualism by the GOP is taking it's toll.  Who wants to be some over educated fairy amirite?  All you need is some common sense, a hammer, and a truck -- at least until the liberals ban them all.


It's what social decline looks like


Stop acting white.
 
2014-02-13 05:25:52 PM

yakmans_dad: Shryke: DarnoKonrad: It's anti-intellectualism by the GOP is taking it's toll.

It's the bankrupting of education budgets by union greed that is taking its toll.

You know that if the achievement scores of kids taught by non-union teachers were lower than that of  kids taught by union teachers you'd be on shaky ground?


I have considerable, though anecdotal, evidence that kids instructed by non-union teachers consistently have 20% higher achievement scores coming out of grammar school, and those kids typically move directly into high school AP.  In fact, they are individually recruited by the public high school for that reason.

But then those teachers' salary is substantially more than nearby union scale.  Substantially.
 
2014-02-13 05:42:12 PM
Women mature faster and are quicker to excel at the tasks of sitting, reading, and paying attention that our teaching methods require for success.  This is why many people still believe in single-sex education as it equalizes some of these natural differences that occur as children mature.  We use age as the determining factor for what children belong in what grade when in fact mental and emotional maturity are far more important factors.

I prefer smart women.  That way when I fark her brains out, it really means something.
 
2014-02-13 05:50:26 PM

yakmans_dad: Shryke: DarnoKonrad: It's anti-intellectualism by the GOP is taking it's toll.

It's the bankrupting of education budgets by union greed that is taking its toll.

You know that if the achievement scores of kids taught by non-union teachers were lower than that of  kids taught by union teachers you'd be on shaky ground?


Sure kids in texas are smarter then say Wisconsin or Minnesota. That's why my fortune 500 company in texas hires out of state.
 
2014-02-13 05:54:28 PM

Copper Spork: Are they counting a degree in "Women's Studies" or "Psychology" as education here?


Of course, along withe  the degrees in holistic interpretive dance and the social "sciences".

Of course that guy that guy that went and got a degree in puppetry kind of skews the numbers
 
2014-02-13 06:25:06 PM
We need more attractive people marrying nerdy, geeks (either gender) to improve the general IQ of the gene pool.  Hot and dumb marrying hot and dumb just leads to more and more derp.
 
2014-02-13 06:32:59 PM

Gigwave: ARE our husbands learning English?


Subby was doing a thing.
 
2014-02-13 06:47:23 PM

rkiller1: yakmans_dad: Shryke: DarnoKonrad: It's anti-intellectualism by the GOP is taking it's toll.

It's the bankrupting of education budgets by union greed that is taking its toll.

You know that if the achievement scores of kids taught by non-union teachers were lower than that of  kids taught by union teachers you'd be on shaky ground?

I have considerable, though anecdotal, evidence that kids instructed by non-union teachers consistently have 20% higher achievement scores coming out of grammar school, and those kids typically move directly into high school AP.  In fact, they are individually recruited by the public high school for that reason.

But then those teachers' salary is substantially more than nearby union scale.  Substantially.


I refuse to acknowledge the existence of children and reject any argument dependent on this nonentity.
 
2014-02-13 08:01:30 PM

Anayalator: My wife read this to me, and she said I agree.



Omg - who are you?  Are you living in my house too?
 
2014-02-13 08:02:50 PM

Anayalator: My wife read this to me, and she said I agree.



OMG - Who are you?  Are you living in my house too?
 
2014-02-13 08:03:51 PM
Dammit Fark - stop messing with my timestamps.
 
2014-02-13 08:05:49 PM
As long as someone in the house is putting food on their families, there is still hope, where wings take dream.
 
2014-02-13 08:23:41 PM
I'd rather have a hot, dumb wife than a plain, smart one. Actually, I'd rather have a hot, smart wife than a plain, smart wife. I guess what I'm trying to say is that I'd like one hot wife, please.
 
2014-02-13 09:59:35 PM

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2014-02-13 10:24:33 PM

TsarTom: Gigwave: ARE our husbands learning English?

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Dude, don't sweat it - its a pet peeve. He picked it up when he was serving in the Marine Core after he enlisted in the Army and the DIs thought he was too good.
 
2014-02-14 05:53:12 AM

Kujira: As long as someone in the house is putting food on their families, there is still hope, where wings take dream.


Ugh. Ever since my wife read about those places where you can eat sushi off a naked person, she has been trying this. Mashed potatoes, onion rings, everything. Its really weird.
 
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