Descartes: Silly Subby, this is only weather. When it's hotter than normal it's called climate.
Jakesta: LouDobbsAwaaaay: Jakesta: Weather or not (see what I did there?) climate change is man made is a silly argument. It implies that the climate ofthe earth has been stable at any point in time.It most certainly does not. This is what I mean when I say that the problem is that you guys think you know what you're talking about. You're wrong from the very beginning, and you build your case from there.So what exactly is the "problem"?Enlighten me please.
rkiller1: ...exactly as predicted by global climate modelsCitation needed, or you be a troll, Subby.
GeneralJim: Surpheon: What a shock, a confident Internet Expert knows far more than all the folks who study this for a living.Yeah, he may well know better. The so-called "experts" have booted every prediction they've made so far. Not only that, they've booted them in the same direction, and by approximately the same factor, and in over 25 years haven't managed to correct their error. And, in fact, if the gentleman you are insulting here is being honest, he is ahead of much of the climatology community. Pretty much the entire "leadership" of the climatology community is selling their "consensus" to politicians, who are buying results favorable to draconian new measures with a 20-fold increase in research money as a Quid-Pro-Quo.[www.climatedialogue.org image 607x342]
GeneralJim: LouDobbsAwaaaay: gretzkyscores: Someone tell reality to start conforming to the models NOW, dammit!Or we could just tell you that a single year doesn't equate to a trend that you can compare to model projections. You idiots chase every data point like you're scoring points in a game against someone, and completely ignore the trend.[1.bp.blogspot.com image 850x402]
AngryDragon: Farking Canuck: What is obvious is the whole "L-l-l-look at China! Our doing anything can never help so do nothing!!!" is a cornerstone of the denier agenda. Congratz if you came up with it independently of a industry funded blogSo the fact that our emissions are dropping means that we're doing nothing.
Farking Canuck: What is obvious is the whole "L-l-l-look at China! Our doing anything can never help so do nothing!!!" is a cornerstone of the denier agenda. Congratz if you came up with it independently of a industry funded blog
AngryDragon: Farking Canuck: The point is that China is taking action. We will see how effective it is ... but at least they acknowledge the science and evidence and they are tryingBut China is "trying" so that means what again?
Farking Canuck: The point is that China is taking action. We will see how effective it is ... but at least they acknowledge the science and evidence and they are trying
AngryDragon: Agenda. I think you have one.
AngryDragon: I'm learning here that climate change proponents have absolutely no sense of humor.I thought it was funny, subby
Jakesta: It's media and politics that distort the message.
Farking Canuck: And I don't have kids.
What a shock, a confident Internet Expert knows far more than all the folks who study this for a living.
gretzkyscores: Someone tell reality to start conforming to the models NOW, dammit!Or we could just tell you that a single year doesn't equate to a trend that you can compare to model projections. You idiots chase every data point like you're scoring points in a game against someone, and completely ignore the trend.
Hassan Ben Sobr: Here are the latest totals for each lake, by percentage of surface area covered with ice. The entire Great Lakes average is 87 percent, the most since 1994.Erie: 96Superior: 95Huron: 95Michigan: 80Ontario: 32I get 79.6%, not 87%.
simkatu: politech: I have only ever heard about this "consensus" of AGCC scientists from journalists, politicians, and "Believers".They wouldn't lie about something so important just to push some collectivist agenda, would they?97% of climate scientists agree .1) W. R. L. Anderegg, "Expert Credibility in Climate Change," Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences Vol. 107 No. 27, 12107-12109 (21 June 2010); DOI: 10.1073/pnas.1003187107.2) P. T. Doran & M. K. Zimmerman, "Examining the Scientific Consensus on Climate Change," Eos Transactions American Geophysical Union Vol. 90 Issue 3 (2009), 22; DOI: 10.1029/2009EO030002.3) N. Oreskes, "Beyond the Ivory Tower: The Scientific Consensus on Climate Change,"Science Vol. 306 no. 5702, p. 1686 (3 December 2004); DOI: 10.1126/science.1103618.
whatshisname: Jakesta: Maybe I should clarify. Climate change probably is real, and we are probably causing a lot of it. But so what? The planet will be fine.But your great grandkids, maybe not so much.
WTF Indeed: I predict this thread to contain many graphs and charts.
LordJiro: You mean like weather becoming extreme due ? to warming ocean currents and farked up atmospheric currents?
The Beatings Will Continue Until Morale Improves: You mean the climate models that predict that weather will become increasingly extreme and unpredictable
Tyee: I predict that one day the alarmist will make a prediction that actually happens but nobody will be paying attention because they have yet to be correct and are looked at as the little boy who cries wolf.
sigdiamond2000: It's like putting coffee in tall, narrow mug instead of a short, wide one. The taller cup keeps the coffee warmer.Can any of Fark's baristas speak specifically to this reckless, incredible claim?
Pick: Now days, when it's hot out and people are frying eggs on the sidewalk, it's "Global Warming", everybody panic and cut CO2 emissions!!!! Who can we blame for this?When it's cold out and people are crashing their cars all over the south in ice storms, it's "Climate Change", what are we going to do? Who can we blame for this?Back in the 1900's it was simply called, "A hot summer" or a "A cold winter". And that was that.
Semper IvXx: So did they really predict it? Or was this sarcasm?
What_do_you_want_now: THE REASONABLE DEBATE ENDED AT THIS POST!!!!
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