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(Huffington Post)   Comcast CEO: The merger of the two largest cable companies will be "pro-competitive" and "pro-consumer." That's the joke   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 70
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2014-02-13 12:45:13 PM  
Well, it's not like they ever compete in the same market do they?
 
2014-02-13 12:58:15 PM  
Mergers only benefit the shareholders and the board.  Everyone else gets screwed.
 
2014-02-13 12:59:42 PM  

BizarreMan: Well, it's not like they ever compete in the same market do they?


Comcast and Time Warner were both in Philadelphia.  The article is just lazy bullshiat.
 
2014-02-13 01:22:47 PM  
I'm still waiting on my Al-la carte programming.

Screw HSN, Fox news, and all but 1 ESPN (the one that has thursday night football). the travel channels, the "we only show other channels reruns" (looking at you SPIKE). and MTV.
 
2014-02-13 01:36:09 PM  

Klaumbaz: I'm still waiting on my Al-la carte programming.

Screw HSN, Fox news, and all but 1 ESPN (the one that has thursday night football). the travel channels, the "we only show other channels reruns" (looking at you SPIKE). and MTV.


CBS is going to be broadcasting Thursday night football starting this year. Just a simple antenna and you can enjoy the HD broadcast for free.

/and it was the NFL network, not ESPN that used to broadcast Thursday night football
 
2014-02-13 01:41:53 PM  
By "pro-competitive", he means he may finally be able to build as big a house as that banker down the street. And "pro-consumer" means you get the honor of paying for it. Which might sound snide, but when you think about the scarcity of honor in poverty you realize it actually does count for something.
 
2014-02-13 02:21:19 PM  
Merger is complete shiat and should be blocked. Violently, if possible.

However, if it is allowed, it should have a forced agreement signed by Comcast verifying they will adopt 100% net neutrality on every circuit.

Secondarily, we should legally declare internet providers as telecoms, declare them to be common carriers and string up comcast's CEO in Times Square. I will settle for whomever they have as their current chief whatever of customer service.
 
2014-02-13 02:26:09 PM  
The only thing this will do for consumers is give them a prolapse.
 
2014-02-13 02:46:39 PM  

BunkyBrewman: BizarreMan: Well, it's not like they ever compete in the same market do they?

Comcast and Time Warner were both in Philadelphia.  The article is just lazy bullshiat.


Same in the DC/Baltimore metro area.  I'm guessing TWC customers are going to get extra-poopy service within the next couple of years.  Although as a Comcast business user, this opens up more fiber paths for my remote locations.  Already using Comcast Enterprise data services and they beat the pants off the incumbent telcos.
 
2014-02-13 02:51:00 PM  
There is only one way in which this merger could be pro-consumer and that is that it will give Comcast better leverage in carriage fee fights.  A cable network isn't going to pull its content from a third of all homes during a contract dispute.  So this could lead to lower carriage fees.  However, the odds of those savings being passed on to the consumers are just above nil.
 
2014-02-13 02:51:07 PM  

rumpelstiltskin: By "pro-competitive", he means he may finally be able to build as big a house as that banker down the street.


Brian Roberts compensation package is in the $35-45 million a year range and he's a billionaire.  The only person who has a house bigger/more expensive than he could theoretically buy is the Sultan of Brunei.
 
2014-02-13 02:52:06 PM  
Pro Competitive?  Ha

You are serious?  Let me laugh harder.

With this transaction, the big six media companies go down to the big five. Worse, it will cause the four or five 2nd tier companies (Cox, Cumulus, etc) to very seriously consider their options to merge as well.  If it flies, we could be down to three or four companies controlling better than 90% of the ad revenue and 85% of the content.

500 channels all showing the exact same crap.
 
2014-02-13 02:56:28 PM  
Here's how it will be pro-consumer, and it is really simple: with them acting as a single entity, they won't be attempting to out-innovate each other in NEW ways to make customer service more sh*tty, ineffective, slow, and frustrating.  In the race to the bottom, they'll be coasting instead of necking it out!
 
2014-02-13 02:58:06 PM  

Another Government Employee: Pro Competitive?  Ha

You are serious?  Let me laugh harder.

With this transaction, the big six media companies go down to the big five. Worse, it will cause the four or five 2nd tier companies (Cox, Cumulus, etc) to very seriously consider their options to merge as well.  If it flies, we could be down to three or four companies controlling better than 90% of the ad revenue and 85% of the content.

500 channels all showing the exact same crap.


and don't forget that we're down to 3 cell phone providers and 3 major airlines as well.

We are literally only a few steps away from a modern reenactment of the Ma-Bell, Std. Oil days.
 
2014-02-13 02:59:43 PM  
I'm in the Philly area and its Comcrap or Verizon
 
2014-02-13 03:04:18 PM  
I don't usually advocate violence, but when I do, it's toward Comcast.
 
2014-02-13 03:04:51 PM  
It's rather curious that the very first "pro-consumer" action they're going to take is to "shed 3 million customers". I'm sure those folks who have their service disconnected will just rave about how pro-consumer this new behemoth is.
 
2014-02-13 03:04:52 PM  
I just don't see how this will fly. It would make them the largest cable/Internet provider by a tremendous margin, and TWC is already operating a sanctioned monopoly in NYC (I don't know about anywhere else for either company).

Consumers would be left no option but to deal with a company who has zero need to try and be competitive.
 
2014-02-13 03:10:51 PM  

apoptotic: It's rather curious that the very first "pro-consumer" action they're going to take is to "shed 3 million customers". I'm sure those folks who have their service disconnected will just rave about how pro-consumer this new behemoth is.


It's probably some market where there would be an instant regulatory problem so they will just give the customers to another company to avoid that particular objection. I have no clue what the problem could be, but its the only reason I could see them dumping customers as part of the deal.
 
2014-02-13 03:15:01 PM  
I will say this: I will not do business with Comcast. I will go back to DSL before I do that. DSL speeds are pretty decent now.
 
2014-02-13 03:15:22 PM  
The whole notion is absolutely absurd. There isn't a CEO in the world who wants the business they're in to be 'more competitive'.
 
2014-02-13 03:19:27 PM  
/me hugs his mythtv and hd antenna.
 
2014-02-13 03:31:52 PM  

oneodd1: /me hugs his mythtv and hd antenna.


From whom do you receive Internet service?
 
2014-02-13 03:32:10 PM  

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Another Government Employee: Pro Competitive?  Ha

You are serious?  Let me laugh harder.

With this transaction, the big six media companies go down to the big five. Worse, it will cause the four or five 2nd tier companies (Cox, Cumulus, etc) to very seriously consider their options to merge as well.  If it flies, we could be down to three or four companies controlling better than 90% of the ad revenue and 85% of the content.

500 channels all showing the exact same crap.

and don't forget that we're down to 3 cell phone providers and 3 major airlines as well.

We are literally only a few steps away from a modern reenactment of the Ma-Bell, Std. Oil days.


Well, if that means they get broken up, then good.
 
2014-02-13 03:47:13 PM  
What these cock holes are trying to say is they are posturing to rob the place blind at the expense of the consumer, while padding their golden escape pods, while lighting Cuban cigars with C-Notes, and laughing all the way to the whore house where they will meet their coke dealer.
 
2014-02-13 03:49:02 PM  

dr_blasto: Merger is complete shiat and should be blocked. Violently, if possible.

However, if it is allowed, it should have a forced agreement signed by Comcast verifying they will adopt 100% net neutrality on every circuit.

Secondarily, we should legally declare internet providers as telecoms, declare them to be common carriers and string up comcast's CEO in Times Square. I will settle for whomever they have as their current chief whatever of customer service.


OH come on. We have antitrust laws in this country. to be used by the rich, to protect the rich, at the expense of anyone else.
 
2014-02-13 03:57:02 PM  
They money they have is insane. On top of this buyout they are also building a second skyscraper in Philly..
 
2014-02-13 03:58:55 PM  

oneodd1: /me hugs his mythtv and hd antenna.


The OTA networks are deeply tied to cable-servicing providers (heck, Comcast owns one of them) and are overwhelmingly crack-addict dependent on the retransmission fees they get from cable/Dish.  They're holding out now mostly because the FCC is promising them that they can sell "their" spectrum in a reverse auction (to the cellular companies eventually) in the next year or two.  Only 10% of the nation watches antenna TV, and it's a self-selected group of poor people and cheapskates like you and me.  Not a highly valued demographic.

Within ten years, the only TV we'll get with an antenna will be PBS and maybe an infomercial-heavy remnant station running out the end of their contractual obligations with groups like the NFL.
 
2014-02-13 04:12:15 PM  

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Another Government Employee: Pro Competitive?  Ha

You are serious?  Let me laugh harder.

With this transaction, the big six media companies go down to the big five. Worse, it will cause the four or five 2nd tier companies (Cox, Cumulus, etc) to very seriously consider their options to merge as well.  If it flies, we could be down to three or four companies controlling better than 90% of the ad revenue and 85% of the content.

500 channels all showing the exact same crap.

and don't forget that we're down to 3 cell phone providers and 3 major airlines as well.

We are literally only a few steps away from a modern reenactment of the Ma-Bell, Std. Oil days.


Time for a 21st century version of Teddy Roosevelt, then.
 
2014-02-13 04:16:43 PM  

Mad_Radhu: Grand_Moff_Joseph: Another Government Employee: Pro Competitive?  Ha

You are serious?  Let me laugh harder.

With this transaction, the big six media companies go down to the big five. Worse, it will cause the four or five 2nd tier companies (Cox, Cumulus, etc) to very seriously consider their options to merge as well.  If it flies, we could be down to three or four companies controlling better than 90% of the ad revenue and 85% of the content.

500 channels all showing the exact same crap.

and don't forget that we're down to 3 cell phone providers and 3 major airlines as well.

We are literally only a few steps away from a modern reenactment of the Ma-Bell, Std. Oil days.

Time for a 21st century version of Teddy Roosevelt, then.


DO WANT.
 
2014-02-13 04:17:01 PM  

vudukungfu: cock holes


Is this on your word of the day calender? The only reason I noticed was that you misspelled it else where. And if so, where can I get this particular calender?

ummm... fark comcast.
 
2014-02-13 04:25:54 PM  
Mr Comcast CEO? How about no. Does no work for you? Too bad. No.
 
2014-02-13 04:56:49 PM  

Mad_Radhu: Time for a 21st century version of Teddy Roosevelt, then.


upload.wikimedia.org

Hey guys, what's going on in this thread?
 
2014-02-13 04:58:20 PM  

cman: I will say this: I will not do business with Comcast. I will go back to DSL before I do that. DSL speeds are pretty decent now.


Basically what I did.  I wanted DirecTV for Sunday Ticket, and was debating between the bundle with DSL and sticking with Comcast.  Comcast made that fairly easy.

My DSL's much slower (about 10 Mbps), but I don't really notice unless I'm downloading something huge.
 
2014-02-13 05:06:51 PM  
This deal is only Pro-sumer if you like getting fisted in the back end.
 
2014-02-13 05:12:51 PM  
The cancer that is Comcast grows.
 
2014-02-13 05:24:56 PM  

Pet_Pimples: This deal is only Pro-sumer if you like getting fisted in the back end.


And here's the fist img.fark.net
 
2014-02-13 06:22:08 PM  
Fark comcast. One of the worst ISPs I've ever dealt with for both business and personal use.

Whoever at comcast thought forcing people to upgrade to new equipment, that just happens to host a public comcast wifi network that will leech off the bandwidth you pay for which they don't tell you about and you can't turn off without contacting support, needs to be kicked in the nuts, lit on fire, and then kicked in the nuts again. What's worse, you still have to pay rent every month for the equipment.

So anyone who has recently received an upgraded modem/router from comcast, be aware that you are now also hosting a public wifi hotspot for them.
 
2014-02-13 06:28:32 PM  
I'm with Time Warner, so I'm most definately not getting a kick out of these replies.
 
2014-02-13 06:33:05 PM  
31.media.tumblr.com
 
2014-02-13 06:46:18 PM  
In my neighborhood, it's either CenturyLink with its 1999 DSL speeds and Dish (no locals in HD) or DirecTV (no locals at all) - or Comcast. I've actually had no problems with Comcast, even when they've tried to raise my rates. I just tell them, "Look, I've always paid my bill and I can always go back to CenturyLink" and they back down. Has worked every time for the last 3 years.
 
2014-02-13 07:07:31 PM  

jayhawk88: Mad_Radhu: Time for a 21st century version of Teddy Roosevelt, then.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 581x735]

Hey guys, what's going on in this thread?


Well, no native american activities, that's for sure. And no law practice either, so her lack of a license isn't a problem.
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2014-02-13 07:11:05 PM  
Is there anywhere that TWC and Comcast are actually in competition? 
I know you people hate corporations for being all corporation-y, but these companies probably don't compete in ANY market, making it likely this deal is at least neutral for the consumer.

As for Comcast, I've always gotten good service from them, and most years I talk them into a significant discount, so I'm not particularly worried.
 
2014-02-13 07:19:18 PM  

dfenstrate: Is there anywhere that TWC and Comcast are actually in competition? 
I know you people hate corporations for being all corporation-y, but these companies probably don't compete in ANY market, making it likely this deal is at least neutral for the consumer.

As for Comcast, I've always gotten good service from them, and most years I talk them into a significant discount, so I'm not particularly worried.


Most fear Comcasts ever looming data caps which they've been testing for a few years now.. It's only a matter of time before they drop the hammer nationwide..


These are the new monthly caps they are testing.. If you go over you are automatically charged $10 and given an additional 50GB block..Rinse repeat.  They are forcing people to sign up for business class because these data caps are a joke in this day and age.

XFINITY Internet Package New Data Usage Allowance

Economy  - 300 GB
Economy Plus - 300 GB
Internet Essentials - 300 GB
Performance Starter - 300 GB
Performance - 300 GB
Blast! - 350 GB
Extreme 50 - 450 GB
Extreme 105 - 600 GB
 
2014-02-13 07:35:10 PM  

Klaumbaz: I'm still waiting on my Al-la carte programming.

Screw HSN, Fox news, and all but 1 ESPN (the one that has thursday night football). the travel channels, the "we only show other channels reruns" (looking at you SPIKE). and MTV.


It is unlikely you would save much money worth a la carte. Most Of The stations you mentioned have little to no cost. ESPN is by fast the most expensive
 
2014-02-13 07:43:11 PM  

styckx: dfenstrate: Is there anywhere that TWC and Comcast are actually in competition?
I know you people hate corporations for being all corporation-y, but these companies probably don't compete in ANY market, making it likely this deal is at least neutral for the consumer.

As for Comcast, I've always gotten good service from them, and most years I talk them into a significant discount, so I'm not particularly worried.

Most fear Comcasts ever looming data caps which they've been testing for a few years now.. It's only a matter of time before they drop the hammer nationwide..


These are the new monthly caps they are testing.. If you go over you are automatically charged $10 and given an additional 50GB block..Rinse repeat.  They are forcing people to sign up for business class because these data caps are a joke in this day and age.

XFINITY Internet Package New Data Usage Allowance

Economy  - 300 GB
Economy Plus - 300 GB
Internet Essentials - 300 GB
Performance Starter - 300 GB
Performance - 300 GB
Blast! - 350 GB
Extreme 50 - 450 GB
Extreme 105 - 600 GB


Honest question. How is a 300GB cap a joke? I have Comcast internet but not cable. I stream Netflix and Amazon instant movies/tv. I download some software but not a lot. I play TF2 alot and stream other video media plus Pandora. Plus I have a Roku. There may have been a few months where I may have been within 15GB of the cap before the new billing cycle started. What are you doing to blow past a 300GB limit?
 
2014-02-13 07:48:30 PM  

skinink: styckx: dfenstrate: Is there anywhere that TWC and Comcast are actually in competition?
I know you people hate corporations for being all corporation-y, but these companies probably don't compete in ANY market, making it likely this deal is at least neutral for the consumer.

As for Comcast, I've always gotten good service from them, and most years I talk them into a significant discount, so I'm not particularly worried.

Most fear Comcasts ever looming data caps which they've been testing for a few years now.. It's only a matter of time before they drop the hammer nationwide..


These are the new monthly caps they are testing.. If you go over you are automatically charged $10 and given an additional 50GB block..Rinse repeat.  They are forcing people to sign up for business class because these data caps are a joke in this day and age.

XFINITY Internet Package New Data Usage Allowance

Economy  - 300 GB
Economy Plus - 300 GB
Internet Essentials - 300 GB
Performance Starter - 300 GB
Performance - 300 GB
Blast! - 350 GB
Extreme 50 - 450 GB
Extreme 105 - 600 GB

Honest question. How is a 300GB cap a joke? I have Comcast internet but not cable. I stream Netflix and Amazon instant movies/tv. I download some software but not a lot. I play TF2 alot and stream other video media plus Pandora. Plus I have a Roku. There may have been a few months where I may have been within 15GB of the cap before the new billing cycle started. What are you doing to blow past a 300GB limit?


Certain people like to operate an amateur ISP via wifi.
 
2014-02-13 08:23:27 PM  

ShadowKamui: Pet_Pimples: This deal is only Pro-sumer if you like getting fisted in the back end.

And here's the fist [img.fark.net image 222x309]


Not that Comcast would have the decency to use lube, but any chance to use this pic

wjbk.images.worldnow.com
 
2014-02-13 08:32:08 PM  

dr_blasto: Merger is complete shiat and should be blocked. Violently, if possible.

However, if it is allowed, it should have a forced agreement signed by Comcast verifying they will adopt 100% net neutrality on every circuit.

Secondarily, we should legally declare internet providers as telecoms, declare them to be common carriers and string up comcast's CEO in Times Square. I will settle for whomever they have as their current chief whatever of customer service.


They will do no such thing, because FARK YOU, that's why!
 
2014-02-13 09:14:45 PM  

styckx: dfenstrate: Is there anywhere that TWC and Comcast are actually in competition? 
I know you people hate corporations for being all corporation-y, but these companies probably don't compete in ANY market, making it likely this deal is at least neutral for the consumer.

As for Comcast, I've always gotten good service from them, and most years I talk them into a significant discount, so I'm not particularly worried.

Most fear Comcasts ever looming data caps which they've been testing for a few years now.. It's only a matter of time before they drop the hammer nationwide..


These are the new monthly caps they are testing.. If you go over you are automatically charged $10 and given an additional 50GB block..Rinse repeat.  They are forcing people to sign up for business class because these data caps are a joke in this day and age.

XFINITY Internet Package New Data Usage Allowance

Economy  - 300 GB
Economy Plus - 300 GB
Internet Essentials - 300 GB
Performance Starter - 300 GB
Performance - 300 GB
Blast! - 350 GB
Extreme 50 - 450 GB
Extreme 105 - 600 GB


They did 250 GB caps in my area for a while, but they eventually gave up on it and went back to no caps, probably because the money saved didn't make up for the support costs of customers service reps dealing with angry people upset that they were being penalized for going over.
 
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