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(Foodbeast)   So apparently, Lobster used to be the "cockroach of the sea"   (foodbeast.com ) divider line 149
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2014-02-13 03:03:47 PM  

hubcity: flondrix: DrunkWithImpotence: Funny how our perceptions change over time.

It sounds like the big breakthrough was cooking them live.

And with that came a whole new way to make it costly. Imagine if beef were the same way...


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2014-02-13 03:03:53 PM  

Prey4reign: given enough garlic butter.


Ding Ding! The key to making any plain tasting meat with a decent texture taste good.
 
2014-02-13 03:03:55 PM  
No love for monkfish?
Beats lobster in an ugly contest all day, little garlic and butter makes it divine.
 
2014-02-13 03:04:43 PM  

Barnstormer: I make a pretty good baked stuffed lobster. The trick is to put a bed of good stuffing down in the shell,  interleave scallop slices and the lobster pieces on top of the stuffing, then drizzle it all in a high-quality lobster bisque. The baking part is actually optional if you do it right.

That said, plain lobster is... plain. Lobster absorbs the flavors around it, hence the common use of butter or lemon juice.

I read an article about the Maine coastal islands in which a local reminiscesces about the old days when if they saw someone walking home with a few lobsters they said "There goes a man who can't afford bologna."


I've never been able to stomach lobster. It's that green sac of whatever that turns my stomach. I'd rather eat a grasshopper or meal worm than a lobster.
 
2014-02-13 03:04:46 PM  

CygnusDarius: Ambitwistor: Next contender:  hagfish (a.k.a. "slime eel").

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I see your slime eel, I raise you a Brazilian trouser snake.

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Trouser snake?  PNSFW
 
2014-02-13 03:04:54 PM  

bungle_jr: Prey4reign: Snails are disgusting animals, slowly oozing along leaving behind a disgusting film of snot like material.  Escargot are a delicacy, given enough garlic butter.

have you seen the escargot kit at walmart, or other supermarkets? i have had escargot many times and enjoyed it, but this just seems off-putting to me


Most of the time, you're getting canned snails in a restaurant.
 
2014-02-13 03:05:18 PM  

Ker_Thwap: Prisoners in Maine used to whine about being served lobster all the time.  Ribs, wings and all the other odd parts used to be the cheapest cuts of meat.  People learned to do tasty things with the cheap food, now we pay a premium for it. The world turns, carry on.


Yeah even in the early/mid 1980s frozen chicken wings where cheap enough that bags advertized great for fishing bait.

Now its higher than chicken breast.
 
2014-02-13 03:05:20 PM  
Last time I had lobster was the evening after I gave my two weeks at my last job.  It was the holiday party at a high-end place in Boston.  I made it a point to drink no Scotch younger than 15 years and to order the most expensive thing on the menu.

...what were they going to do, fire me?
 
2014-02-13 03:05:29 PM  

Luse: No love for monkfish?
Beats lobster in an ugly contest all day, little garlic and butter makes it divine.


Isn't that just a big flounder?
 
2014-02-13 03:08:00 PM  
And wings, up until about the last 10-15 years, were considered garbage parts of the chicken and were extremely cheep.

I remember back in the 90's being able to get a 40 lbs box of whole chicken wings for $15-$20 dollars depending on the time of year. Now you will be lucky to find a 40 lbs box of party wings for under $80.
 
2014-02-13 03:08:37 PM  

tricycleracer: bungle_jr: Prey4reign: Snails are disgusting animals, slowly oozing along leaving behind a disgusting film of snot like material.  Escargot are a delicacy, given enough garlic butter.

have you seen the escargot kit at walmart, or other supermarkets? i have had escargot many times and enjoyed it, but this just seems off-putting to me

Most of the time, you're getting canned snails in a restaurant.


i didn't look in the kitchen in this particular restaurant (it's an italian place in ramstein, germany), but i didn't have to pop the can open and stuff the shells myself to eat the little slimey things, so that's the difference right there
 
2014-02-13 03:08:47 PM  
It still is the cockroach of the sea. I can't believe anyone will eat those things.
 
2014-02-13 03:09:29 PM  

macadamnut: Luse: No love for monkfish?
Beats lobster in an ugly contest all day, little garlic and butter makes it divine.

Isn't that just a big flounder?


Nope. Flounders are just flatfish. Monkfish are anglerfish.
Do a gis, posting from phone sucks. Look like sea monsters.
 
2014-02-13 03:09:38 PM  

indarwinsshadow: I've never been able to stomach lobster. It's that green sac of whatever that turns my stomach. I'd rather eat a grasshopper or meal worm than a lobster.


I don't even like to touch that green crap when I'm preparing a lobster. I don't even eat the white parts of the abdomen. Just the tail and claw meat.

Also, after you break off the claws it's traditional to wave them around and do a Zoidberg imitation.
 
2014-02-13 03:10:25 PM  
To me the lobster belongs to the following:

LAND                       SEA
Cockroach              Lobster
Shrimp                    Flies
Birds                       Fish
Clams                     Aquarium Filters
 
2014-02-13 03:10:26 PM  

macadamnut: [076dd0a50e0c1255009e-bd4b8aabaca29897bc751dfaf75b290c.r40.cf1.rackcd n .com image 720x352]

And when there was no cockroach to be found, we ate sand.


Y'ate SAND?

/My future's only 8-14 months away.
//HEEEEE-EE-EE-EE-EEEEEEE-EEEEEE...
///Huggies.
 
2014-02-13 03:10:46 PM  

mr_crash_davis: It still is the cockroach of the sea. I can't believe anyone will eat those things.


there are 2 reasons i don't typically eat lobster and crab.

1. price
2. amount of work vs. amount of meat
 
2014-02-13 03:11:38 PM  

crzybtch: To me the lobster belongs to the following:

LAND                       SEA
Cockroach              Lobster
Shrimp                    Flies

Centipedes
Birds                       Fish
Clams                     Aquarium Filters


FTFY
 
2014-02-13 03:12:27 PM  
Same thing with fatty tuna belly (toro) in Japan. They used to throw it away, now it's the most expensive cut for sushi
 
2014-02-13 03:13:30 PM  

denbroc: [upload.wikimedia.org image 800x534]
Obscure?


I was aware of it.
 
2014-02-13 03:13:42 PM  
It never stopped being that and I won't eat it.
 
2014-02-13 03:13:42 PM  
Ummm no isopods are the  cockroaches of the sea.

www.pierfishing.com
 
2014-02-13 03:16:22 PM  
FTFA - "That being said, we bet it's only a few more years 'til spam becomes the filet mignon of red meat."


Wouldn't filet mignon already be the 'filet mignon of red meat'?
 
2014-02-13 03:16:56 PM  
I know a few lobster fishermen. Ask 'em the best place to set a trap and they will laughingly tell you somewhere near where sewer lines empty.

\Does not eat lobster...neither do most fishermen I know.
 
2014-02-13 03:17:39 PM  
That's nothing. Human beings used to be intelligent, self-reliant creatures. I don't see anyone writing about that.
 
2014-02-13 03:18:07 PM  

genner: Ummm no isopods are the  cockroaches of the sea.

[www.pierfishing.com image 450x475]


they are the giant woodlice of the sea

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2014-02-13 03:18:19 PM  

porcupine tree: FTFA - "That being said, we bet it's only a few more years 'til spam becomes the filet mignon of red meat."


Wouldn't filet mignon already be the 'filet mignon of red meat'?


yes. filet mignon IS the filet mignon of red meat.
spam may become some sort of delicacy...already is in hawaii...but not on the level of filet
 
2014-02-13 03:18:51 PM  

ongbok: crzybtch: To me the lobster belongs to the following:

LAND                       SEA
Cockroach              Lobster
Shrimp                    Flies Centipedes
Birds                       Fish
Clams                     Aquarium Filters

FTFY


Shrimp don't have that many legs!  hahaha
And of course everyone knows that crabs are underwater spiders.  Do they have 8 legs?  May have to revise my thinking!
 
2014-02-13 03:19:07 PM  
Did they ever used to feed lobsters to prisoners and slaves?
 
2014-02-13 03:19:16 PM  

porcupine tree: FTFA - "That being said, we bet it's only a few more years 'til spam becomes the filet mignon of red meat."


Wouldn't filet mignon already be the 'filet mignon of red meat'?


Rolls Royce is the Cadillac of automobiles.
 
2014-02-13 03:20:58 PM  
axeeugene:

Y'ate SAND?

/My future's only 8-14 months away.
//HEEEEE-EE-EE-EE-EEEEEEE-EEEEEE...
///Huggies.


Thanks, now I'm going to have that stuck in my head the rest of the day.

/ Worse thing in life, I suppose
// "GIVE ME BACK THAT BABY, YOU WARTHOG FROM HELL"
/// Lobsters are cockroaches with better PR
 
2014-02-13 03:22:16 PM  

WeenerGord: genner: Ummm no isopods are the  cockroaches of the sea.

[www.pierfishing.com image 450x475]

they are the giant woodlice of the sea

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I thought they were armadillo larvae
 
2014-02-13 03:25:10 PM  
I don't even like seafood one bit and even I can tell that was a poorly written article.

The concept is named trash fish. That would be the leftovers and scraps the fishermen couldn't sell in olden times because they were looked down upon as being unclean or not being in vogue. So you had generations of fishermen who would bring home trash fish to their families and they innovated ways to make it delicious (in some cases that's just giving it a pan sear, but it varies from item to item). Fastforward to today and now trash fish are top of the list practically. There are even restaurants dedicated to trash fish and I guarantee you, even as a person who hates seafood in general, that you're not going to find a better seafood plate anywhere else.

Trash fish. Look it up.
 
2014-02-13 03:27:15 PM  

tricycleracer: porcupine tree: FTFA - "That being said, we bet it's only a few more years 'til spam becomes the filet mignon of red meat."


Wouldn't filet mignon already be the 'filet mignon of red meat'?

Rolls Royce is the Cadillac of automobiles.


Andre is the beer of bottled champagnes.
 
2014-02-13 03:28:16 PM  

Ker_Thwap: Prisoners in Maine used to whine about being served lobster all the time.  Ribs, wings and all the other odd parts used to be the cheapest cuts of meat.  People learned to do tasty things with the cheap food, now we pay a premium for it. The world turns, carry on.


Kinda like skirt steak. It used to be a cheap "garbage cut" of beef, but ever since fajitas took off in the 80's, you pay a premium for it.
 
2014-02-13 03:29:35 PM  

WeenerGord: genner: Ummm no isopods are the  cockroaches of the sea.

[www.pierfishing.com image 450x475]

they are the giant woodlice of the sea

[upload.wikimedia.org image 850x637]


Yup -- cockroaches are insects. There are very few true marine insects -- one is  Hermatobates
 
2014-02-13 03:30:08 PM  

genner: Ummm no isopods are the  cockroaches of the sea.

[www.pierfishing.com image 450x475]


How about: (http://boingboing.net/2014/02/12/cuddly-giant-isopod-toy.html)
 
2014-02-13 03:30:29 PM  

WeenerGord: genner: Ummm no isopods are the  cockroaches of the sea.

[www.pierfishing.com image 450x475]

they are the giant woodlice of the sea

[upload.wikimedia.org image 850x637]


Literally. Most folks don't know that woodlice are crustaceans, not bugs. They breathe through gills, which is why you find them in moist places.
 
2014-02-13 03:41:07 PM  
Shrimp are too. Where I come from, shrimp was the bait we used to catch what we were going to eat. I can't eat shrimp for that reason. Lobster too. Scuttling poop-eaters. Yuk.
 
2014-02-13 03:43:41 PM  
I can only imagine eating lobster if it were cheap.

People just use lobster as a vehicle for butter - eat bread instead, sheeple!
 
2014-02-13 03:44:37 PM  
Now I feel compelled to try cockroach.
 
2014-02-13 03:45:58 PM  

vudukungfu: Now I feel compelled to try cockroach.


if it tasted as good as lobster, i'm sure it would be a little more popular.
 
2014-02-13 03:46:35 PM  

buckler: They breathe through gills, which is why you find them in moist places.


Look!  Say what you will about John Travolta and bath houses...

huh?

Oh.  Sorry.
 
2014-02-13 03:49:25 PM  
tricycleracer:

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For that, I award you one Internets.
 
2014-02-13 03:50:02 PM  

pute kisses like a man: vudukungfu: Now I feel compelled to try cockroach.

if it tasted as good as lobster, i'm sure it would be a little more popular.


How do you know it doesn't? Be an innovator.
 
2014-02-13 03:50:32 PM  

Vodka Zombie: tricycleracer: porcupine tree: FTFA - "That being said, we bet it's only a few more years 'til spam becomes the filet mignon of red meat."


Wouldn't filet mignon already be the 'filet mignon of red meat'?

Rolls Royce is the Cadillac of automobiles.

Andre is the beer of bottled champagnes.



Miller High Life is the champagne of bottled beer
 
2014-02-13 03:51:25 PM  
Patagonian toothfish = Chilean Sea Bass.

Amazing how a new name makes it seem all exotic and more tasty.
 
2014-02-13 03:56:45 PM  

"Lobster Used to Be 'The Cockroach of the Sea' and Only Fed to Servants and Cats"


Erica Schecter, Foodbeast, February 13, 2014


http://www.foodbeast.com/2014/02/13/oh-lobster-you-so-fancy/


vs


"How Lobsters Got Fancy


The surprising history-from food for the poor, servants, and prisoners to a soldier's staple to everybody's idea of a delicacy-of "the cockroach of the ocean."


Or, one of the most remarkable rebrandings in product history."


Daniel Luzer, Pacific Standard, June 7, 2013


http://www.psmag.com/navigation/business-economics/how-lobster- got-fan cy-59440/


Foodbeast: "Regarded as a dish fit only for the poor, even having lobster shells in your house was looked upon as a sign of poverty. Yet today lobster is seen as the poshest of the posh, the cousin of caviar. So, how the hell did this happen?

It starts with industrialization. When the railways began to expand across America, transportation managers realized that if no one apart from people who lived on the coast knew what lobster was, trains could serve it to inland passengers as if it were a rare, exotic item. This plan seemed to work as people started demanding lobsters beyond the railways and it didn't hurt that around this same time in the late 1800s, chefs discovered lobsters tasted much better when cooked live. Restaurants, too, got the memo. Then during World War II, lobsters weren't rationed like other foods, and so people of all classes began to eat it and "discover" its deliciousness. By the 1950s, lobster established itself as a bona fide luxury food item.

So what have we learned here? Lobster itself never changed over time, but rather the perceptions and attitudes of people towards lobster that drove the change in consumer behavior. Nowadays, lobster holds a place as one of the most expensive items at a restaurant or reserved for special occasions only. That being said, we bet it's only a few more years 'til spam becomes the filet mignon of red meat. "

Pacific Standard: "Lobsters were so abundant in the early days-residents in the Massachusetts Bay Colony found they washed up on the beach in two-foot-high piles-that people thought of them as trash food. It was fit only for the poor and served to servants or prisoners... "Lobster shells about a house are looked upon as signs of poverty and degradation," wrote John J. Rowan in 1876. Lobster was an unfamiliar, vaguely disgusting bottom feeding ocean dweller that sort of did (and does) resemble an insect, its distant relative...  So how did lobster move up in the world? Basically, it worked like this. In the early days, lobster was plentiful, so abundant it was cheap to prepare and good nutritious food to serve to servants and the incarcerated.

...And when the railways started to spread through America, transportation managers realized something interesting: If no one knew what lobster was, trains could serve it to passengers as if it were a rare, exotic item, even thought it was very cheap for those running the railroad to procure it. Inland passengers were intrigued. This lobster was delicious. Passengers, who didn't know lobster was considered trash food on the coast, started to love it and began to ask for it even after they left the train. It became a popular food. By the 1880s chefs had discovered that lobster was a lot better, and looked a lot more appetizing, if they cooked it live than if they killed it first and cooked it later.   Restaurants first started to serve lobster in the 1850s and '60s in the salad section, like bread and butter pickles or cottage cheese... During World War II, however, lobster wasn't rationed like other foods, and so people of all classes began to eat it enthusiastically, and discover its deliciousness. By the 1950s lobster was firmly established as a delicacy; lobster was something movie stars ate when they went out to dinner. It was the sort of thing girls from new-rich families ordered for their weddings, something the Rockefellers served at their parties.

...This is what happened to Pabst Blue Ribbon, which went from a working-class Midwestern beer to Brooklyn's preferred Hipster beverage. It's also what happened to Marlboro, a poorly selling women's cigarette ("Mild as May") before being rebranded to appeal to men. In both cases, nothing about the product itself changed. But if the peer behavior around the product changes, so too does our appreciation of it. Lobster might seem to taste better to us because it's so expensive...  America has overcome these original feelings of revulsion, largely thanks to a few rich people's love for the item and the thrifty ways of early train chefs.Just imagine what could have happened if the dining cars had just decided to serve liver or processed ham."

/no axe to grind, I just thought that this article sounded very familiar...
 
2014-02-13 04:03:10 PM  

LemSkroob: And now that OP is on board, everybody in the world now knows this.

 
2014-02-13 04:03:52 PM  

denbroc: [upload.wikimedia.org image 800x534]
Obscure?


So sleek.  So furry.  So fair.

You know, I haven't seen many around lately.
 
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