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2014-02-13 02:36:31 PM
Was the 'Obvious' tag caught in a trap?
 
2014-02-13 02:44:19 PM
And now that OP is on board, everybody in the world now knows this.
 
2014-02-13 02:44:33 PM
It still is.  Pigs eat everything and anything too but we're still going to eat bacon
 
2014-02-13 02:45:44 PM
What a terrible article.
 
2014-02-13 02:45:47 PM
Was the Obvious tag too busy stuffing its face with cheese biscuits?
 
2014-02-13 02:46:12 PM
I call it that when I try to explain to people why I'm really not into it.
 
2014-02-13 02:46:46 PM
everyone knows this, parker

yeah, well, did you know auctioneers make horrible cashiers?
 
2014-02-13 02:47:00 PM
Poor Pinchy!
 
2014-02-13 02:47:18 PM
That's cock-a-roach, subby
 
2014-02-13 02:47:41 PM
Hate the way they smell, the only lobster roll I ever had was awful, and I refuse to eat what appears to be a giant scorpion that's still sufficiently armed to fend off the diner.
 
2014-02-13 02:47:47 PM
Could you imagine being the first cave comedian that told the joke about the first cave guy to eat a lobster or an oyster?

Then like the next epoch some Cro-Mencia steals the joke and does it at the Rocksy to a full house?
 
2014-02-13 02:47:52 PM
"In Massachusetts, some of the servants finally rebelled. They had it put into their contracts that they would not be forced to eat lobster more than three times a week"

http://www.gma.org/lobsters/allaboutlobsters/lobsterhistory.html

Funny how our perceptions change over time.
 
2014-02-13 02:48:01 PM
I have to assume that this article was posted so that we can throw insults at the author for breathlessly telling us what everyone already knew.

/did you know Christmas is based on a pagan holiday?
//bacon is really good you guys
 
2014-02-13 02:48:19 PM
Wait, there is still anyone who didn't know this?

I don't know how many times I have seen it so far: lobsters used to be feed to prisoners then they had to stop it because it was considered cruel and unusual punishment.
 
2014-02-13 02:48:30 PM
So what's the earwig of the sea? Moray eel?
 
2014-02-13 02:48:31 PM
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2014-02-13 02:49:09 PM
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2014-02-13 02:49:21 PM
Next contender:  hagfish (a.k.a. "slime eel").

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2014-02-13 02:49:55 PM
But were they buying the lobsters with their EBT cards?
 
2014-02-13 02:50:08 PM
Ya ever notice how much lobster tastes like soap? The rich foods ain't always the tastiest.
 
2014-02-13 02:50:33 PM
I'm planning to get a rec permit for lobster and haul them up in a hoop trap this Summer from a kayak, so I;m getting a kick out of this.
 
2014-02-13 02:50:37 PM
I'll take a nice NY Strip over lobster any day....and about 10 other cuts of beef.
 
2014-02-13 02:50:39 PM
And crabs are sea spiders. Your point being...?
 
2014-02-13 02:50:48 PM
Actually, that explains something that I always wondered about when reading Charles Dickens's Bleak House.

Mr. Guppy makes a point of supping on "lobster and lettuce." I wondered how someone who was on the verge of being broke all the time could afford a dish like that. Now I know.
 
2014-02-13 02:51:02 PM
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Obligatory.
 
2014-02-13 02:51:45 PM
Snails are disgusting animals, slowly oozing along leaving behind a disgusting film of snot like material.  Escargot are a delicacy, given enough garlic butter.
 
2014-02-13 02:52:11 PM

DrunkWithImpotence: "In Massachusetts, some of the servants finally rebelled. They had it put into their contracts that they would not be forced to eat lobster more than three times a week"

http://www.gma.org/lobsters/allaboutlobsters/lobsterhistory.html

Funny how our perceptions change over time.


hmmmm...i'm thinking...if i ever have a contract, perhaps this should be in it
 
2014-02-13 02:52:12 PM

PunkTiger: And crabs are sea spiders. Your point being...?


Galloping sea spiders

/things that gallop are tasty
 
2014-02-13 02:52:26 PM

scottydoesntknow: Was the 'Obvious' tag caught in a trap?


We need a "Romero" tag.
 
2014-02-13 02:52:31 PM
And crabs are giant sea spiders.
 
2014-02-13 02:52:56 PM
Stone crab FTW

www.plumleegulfbeachrealty.com
 
2014-02-13 02:53:20 PM
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And when there was no cockroach to be found, we ate sand.
 
2014-02-13 02:54:25 PM
Wow welcome to the 20th century subby.
 
2014-02-13 02:54:47 PM
Prisoners in Maine used to whine about being served lobster all the time.  Ribs, wings and all the other odd parts used to be the cheapest cuts of meat.  People learned to do tasty things with the cheap food, now we pay a premium for it. The world turns, carry on.
 
2014-02-13 02:55:03 PM

DrunkWithImpotence: "In Massachusetts, some of the servants finally rebelled. They had it put into their contracts that they would not be forced to eat lobster more than three times a week"

http://www.gma.org/lobsters/allaboutlobsters/lobsterhistory.html

Funny how our perceptions change over time.


Kopi Luwak.
 
2014-02-13 02:55:13 PM

Ambitwistor: Next contender:  hagfish (a.k.a. "slime eel").

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I see your slime eel, I raise you a Brazilian trouser snake.

i.dailymail.co.uk
 
2014-02-13 02:55:43 PM

lemurs: [img.fark.net image 306x413]

Obligatory.


Alternate universe?
Just visit Cambodia.

s1.hubimg.com
 
2014-02-13 02:55:51 PM
Erica Shecter -
A hungry American expat living in London, Erica has an insatiable appetite for all things meat

Giggity!

/What did the article say about lobsters?
 
2014-02-13 02:55:58 PM
I have seen recipes for mock chicken legs, made from veal. Depression food.
 
2014-02-13 02:57:15 PM

DrunkWithImpotence: Funny how our perceptions change over time.


It sounds like the big breakthrough was cooking them live.
 
2014-02-13 02:57:38 PM
It used to be fed to prisoners as well, along with chocolate.
And anyone from New England will tell you, lobster once every few weeks and only during warm seasons.  More than that is just excessive and not worth the effort.
 
2014-02-13 02:58:14 PM
trying to decide what to cook the wife for valentines.  lobster sure would be easy.

/ probably going with scallops.
 
2014-02-13 02:58:42 PM
This just in: poor people food ('waste' parts, snails, lobsters, etc.) eventually became delicacies as they required better preparation and thus delivered enhanced flavor.

I've never had lobster, for exactly this reason... Hell, the tails look like big bugs. Gross.
 
2014-02-13 02:59:41 PM
has anybody said that this article needs the obvious tag yet...because while lobsters are the cockroaches or they sea they are still DELICIOUS!!!
 
2014-02-13 02:59:50 PM
If you're ever wondering why eating lobster regularly was considered cruel...consider this: They probably didn't serve them with butter in the prisons/servants quarters.

/butterless lobster...ketchupless liver.
 
2014-02-13 03:00:03 PM

Prey4reign: Snails are disgusting animals, slowly oozing along leaving behind a disgusting film of snot like material.  Escargot are a delicacy, given enough garlic butter.


have you seen the escargot kit at walmart, or other supermarkets? i have had escargot many times and enjoyed it, but this just seems off-putting to me
 
2014-02-13 03:00:54 PM

flondrix: DrunkWithImpotence: Funny how our perceptions change over time.

It sounds like the big breakthrough was cooking them live.


And with that came a whole new way to make it costly. Imagine if beef were the same way...
 
2014-02-13 03:01:51 PM
Did you know that there really is an oldest trick in the book?
 
2014-02-13 03:02:10 PM
I'm allergic to all that nasty crap anyway, so I wonder what people thought when every so often somebody would swell up and choke to death a few minutes after eating it. I also wonder if the Semitic food laws about it have anything to do with that.
 
2014-02-13 03:02:50 PM
I make a pretty good baked stuffed lobster. The trick is to put a bed of good stuffing down in the shell,  interleave scallop slices and the lobster pieces on top of the stuffing, then drizzle it all in a high-quality lobster bisque. The baking part is actually optional if you do it right.

That said, plain lobster is... plain. Lobster absorbs the flavors around it, hence the common use of butter or lemon juice.

I read an article about the Maine coastal islands in which a local reminiscesces about the old days when if they saw someone walking home with a few lobsters they said "There goes a man who can't afford bologna."
 
2014-02-13 03:02:52 PM

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Obscure?

 
2014-02-13 03:03:47 PM

hubcity: flondrix: DrunkWithImpotence: Funny how our perceptions change over time.

It sounds like the big breakthrough was cooking them live.

And with that came a whole new way to make it costly. Imagine if beef were the same way...


1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-02-13 03:03:53 PM

Prey4reign: given enough garlic butter.


Ding Ding! The key to making any plain tasting meat with a decent texture taste good.
 
2014-02-13 03:03:55 PM
No love for monkfish?
Beats lobster in an ugly contest all day, little garlic and butter makes it divine.
 
2014-02-13 03:04:43 PM

Barnstormer: I make a pretty good baked stuffed lobster. The trick is to put a bed of good stuffing down in the shell,  interleave scallop slices and the lobster pieces on top of the stuffing, then drizzle it all in a high-quality lobster bisque. The baking part is actually optional if you do it right.

That said, plain lobster is... plain. Lobster absorbs the flavors around it, hence the common use of butter or lemon juice.

I read an article about the Maine coastal islands in which a local reminiscesces about the old days when if they saw someone walking home with a few lobsters they said "There goes a man who can't afford bologna."


I've never been able to stomach lobster. It's that green sac of whatever that turns my stomach. I'd rather eat a grasshopper or meal worm than a lobster.
 
2014-02-13 03:04:46 PM

CygnusDarius: Ambitwistor: Next contender:  hagfish (a.k.a. "slime eel").

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I see your slime eel, I raise you a Brazilian trouser snake.

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Trouser snake?  PNSFW
 
2014-02-13 03:04:54 PM

bungle_jr: Prey4reign: Snails are disgusting animals, slowly oozing along leaving behind a disgusting film of snot like material.  Escargot are a delicacy, given enough garlic butter.

have you seen the escargot kit at walmart, or other supermarkets? i have had escargot many times and enjoyed it, but this just seems off-putting to me


Most of the time, you're getting canned snails in a restaurant.
 
2014-02-13 03:05:18 PM

Ker_Thwap: Prisoners in Maine used to whine about being served lobster all the time.  Ribs, wings and all the other odd parts used to be the cheapest cuts of meat.  People learned to do tasty things with the cheap food, now we pay a premium for it. The world turns, carry on.


Yeah even in the early/mid 1980s frozen chicken wings where cheap enough that bags advertized great for fishing bait.

Now its higher than chicken breast.
 
2014-02-13 03:05:20 PM
Last time I had lobster was the evening after I gave my two weeks at my last job.  It was the holiday party at a high-end place in Boston.  I made it a point to drink no Scotch younger than 15 years and to order the most expensive thing on the menu.

...what were they going to do, fire me?
 
2014-02-13 03:05:29 PM

Luse: No love for monkfish?
Beats lobster in an ugly contest all day, little garlic and butter makes it divine.


Isn't that just a big flounder?
 
2014-02-13 03:08:00 PM
And wings, up until about the last 10-15 years, were considered garbage parts of the chicken and were extremely cheep.

I remember back in the 90's being able to get a 40 lbs box of whole chicken wings for $15-$20 dollars depending on the time of year. Now you will be lucky to find a 40 lbs box of party wings for under $80.
 
2014-02-13 03:08:37 PM

tricycleracer: bungle_jr: Prey4reign: Snails are disgusting animals, slowly oozing along leaving behind a disgusting film of snot like material.  Escargot are a delicacy, given enough garlic butter.

have you seen the escargot kit at walmart, or other supermarkets? i have had escargot many times and enjoyed it, but this just seems off-putting to me

Most of the time, you're getting canned snails in a restaurant.


i didn't look in the kitchen in this particular restaurant (it's an italian place in ramstein, germany), but i didn't have to pop the can open and stuff the shells myself to eat the little slimey things, so that's the difference right there
 
2014-02-13 03:08:47 PM
It still is the cockroach of the sea. I can't believe anyone will eat those things.
 
2014-02-13 03:09:29 PM

macadamnut: Luse: No love for monkfish?
Beats lobster in an ugly contest all day, little garlic and butter makes it divine.

Isn't that just a big flounder?


Nope. Flounders are just flatfish. Monkfish are anglerfish.
Do a gis, posting from phone sucks. Look like sea monsters.
 
2014-02-13 03:09:38 PM

indarwinsshadow: I've never been able to stomach lobster. It's that green sac of whatever that turns my stomach. I'd rather eat a grasshopper or meal worm than a lobster.


I don't even like to touch that green crap when I'm preparing a lobster. I don't even eat the white parts of the abdomen. Just the tail and claw meat.

Also, after you break off the claws it's traditional to wave them around and do a Zoidberg imitation.
 
2014-02-13 03:10:25 PM
To me the lobster belongs to the following:

LAND                       SEA
Cockroach              Lobster
Shrimp                    Flies
Birds                       Fish
Clams                     Aquarium Filters
 
2014-02-13 03:10:26 PM

macadamnut: [076dd0a50e0c1255009e-bd4b8aabaca29897bc751dfaf75b290c.r40.cf1.rackcd n .com image 720x352]

And when there was no cockroach to be found, we ate sand.


Y'ate SAND?

/My future's only 8-14 months away.
//HEEEEE-EE-EE-EE-EEEEEEE-EEEEEE...
///Huggies.
 
2014-02-13 03:10:46 PM

mr_crash_davis: It still is the cockroach of the sea. I can't believe anyone will eat those things.


there are 2 reasons i don't typically eat lobster and crab.

1. price
2. amount of work vs. amount of meat
 
2014-02-13 03:11:38 PM

crzybtch: To me the lobster belongs to the following:

LAND                       SEA
Cockroach              Lobster
Shrimp                    Flies

Centipedes
Birds                       Fish
Clams                     Aquarium Filters


FTFY
 
2014-02-13 03:12:27 PM
Same thing with fatty tuna belly (toro) in Japan. They used to throw it away, now it's the most expensive cut for sushi
 
2014-02-13 03:13:30 PM

denbroc: [upload.wikimedia.org image 800x534]
Obscure?


I was aware of it.
 
2014-02-13 03:13:42 PM
It never stopped being that and I won't eat it.
 
2014-02-13 03:13:42 PM
Ummm no isopods are the  cockroaches of the sea.

www.pierfishing.com
 
2014-02-13 03:16:22 PM
FTFA - "That being said, we bet it's only a few more years 'til spam becomes the filet mignon of red meat."


Wouldn't filet mignon already be the 'filet mignon of red meat'?
 
2014-02-13 03:16:56 PM
I know a few lobster fishermen. Ask 'em the best place to set a trap and they will laughingly tell you somewhere near where sewer lines empty.

\Does not eat lobster...neither do most fishermen I know.
 
2014-02-13 03:17:39 PM
That's nothing. Human beings used to be intelligent, self-reliant creatures. I don't see anyone writing about that.
 
2014-02-13 03:18:07 PM

genner: Ummm no isopods are the  cockroaches of the sea.

[www.pierfishing.com image 450x475]


they are the giant woodlice of the sea

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2014-02-13 03:18:19 PM

porcupine tree: FTFA - "That being said, we bet it's only a few more years 'til spam becomes the filet mignon of red meat."


Wouldn't filet mignon already be the 'filet mignon of red meat'?


yes. filet mignon IS the filet mignon of red meat.
spam may become some sort of delicacy...already is in hawaii...but not on the level of filet
 
2014-02-13 03:18:51 PM

ongbok: crzybtch: To me the lobster belongs to the following:

LAND                       SEA
Cockroach              Lobster
Shrimp                    Flies Centipedes
Birds                       Fish
Clams                     Aquarium Filters

FTFY


Shrimp don't have that many legs!  hahaha
And of course everyone knows that crabs are underwater spiders.  Do they have 8 legs?  May have to revise my thinking!
 
2014-02-13 03:19:07 PM
Did they ever used to feed lobsters to prisoners and slaves?
 
2014-02-13 03:19:16 PM

porcupine tree: FTFA - "That being said, we bet it's only a few more years 'til spam becomes the filet mignon of red meat."


Wouldn't filet mignon already be the 'filet mignon of red meat'?


Rolls Royce is the Cadillac of automobiles.
 
2014-02-13 03:20:58 PM
axeeugene:

Y'ate SAND?

/My future's only 8-14 months away.
//HEEEEE-EE-EE-EE-EEEEEEE-EEEEEE...
///Huggies.


Thanks, now I'm going to have that stuck in my head the rest of the day.

/ Worse thing in life, I suppose
// "GIVE ME BACK THAT BABY, YOU WARTHOG FROM HELL"
/// Lobsters are cockroaches with better PR
 
2014-02-13 03:22:16 PM

WeenerGord: genner: Ummm no isopods are the  cockroaches of the sea.

[www.pierfishing.com image 450x475]

they are the giant woodlice of the sea

[upload.wikimedia.org image 850x637]


I thought they were armadillo larvae
 
2014-02-13 03:25:10 PM
I don't even like seafood one bit and even I can tell that was a poorly written article.

The concept is named trash fish. That would be the leftovers and scraps the fishermen couldn't sell in olden times because they were looked down upon as being unclean or not being in vogue. So you had generations of fishermen who would bring home trash fish to their families and they innovated ways to make it delicious (in some cases that's just giving it a pan sear, but it varies from item to item). Fastforward to today and now trash fish are top of the list practically. There are even restaurants dedicated to trash fish and I guarantee you, even as a person who hates seafood in general, that you're not going to find a better seafood plate anywhere else.

Trash fish. Look it up.
 
2014-02-13 03:27:15 PM

tricycleracer: porcupine tree: FTFA - "That being said, we bet it's only a few more years 'til spam becomes the filet mignon of red meat."


Wouldn't filet mignon already be the 'filet mignon of red meat'?

Rolls Royce is the Cadillac of automobiles.


Andre is the beer of bottled champagnes.
 
2014-02-13 03:28:16 PM

Ker_Thwap: Prisoners in Maine used to whine about being served lobster all the time.  Ribs, wings and all the other odd parts used to be the cheapest cuts of meat.  People learned to do tasty things with the cheap food, now we pay a premium for it. The world turns, carry on.


Kinda like skirt steak. It used to be a cheap "garbage cut" of beef, but ever since fajitas took off in the 80's, you pay a premium for it.
 
2014-02-13 03:29:35 PM

WeenerGord: genner: Ummm no isopods are the  cockroaches of the sea.

[www.pierfishing.com image 450x475]

they are the giant woodlice of the sea

[upload.wikimedia.org image 850x637]


Yup -- cockroaches are insects. There are very few true marine insects -- one is  Hermatobates
 
2014-02-13 03:30:08 PM

genner: Ummm no isopods are the  cockroaches of the sea.

[www.pierfishing.com image 450x475]


How about: (http://boingboing.net/2014/02/12/cuddly-giant-isopod-toy.html)
 
2014-02-13 03:30:29 PM

WeenerGord: genner: Ummm no isopods are the  cockroaches of the sea.

[www.pierfishing.com image 450x475]

they are the giant woodlice of the sea

[upload.wikimedia.org image 850x637]


Literally. Most folks don't know that woodlice are crustaceans, not bugs. They breathe through gills, which is why you find them in moist places.
 
2014-02-13 03:41:07 PM
Shrimp are too. Where I come from, shrimp was the bait we used to catch what we were going to eat. I can't eat shrimp for that reason. Lobster too. Scuttling poop-eaters. Yuk.
 
2014-02-13 03:43:41 PM
I can only imagine eating lobster if it were cheap.

People just use lobster as a vehicle for butter - eat bread instead, sheeple!
 
2014-02-13 03:44:37 PM
Now I feel compelled to try cockroach.
 
2014-02-13 03:45:58 PM

vudukungfu: Now I feel compelled to try cockroach.


if it tasted as good as lobster, i'm sure it would be a little more popular.
 
2014-02-13 03:46:35 PM

buckler: They breathe through gills, which is why you find them in moist places.


Look!  Say what you will about John Travolta and bath houses...

huh?

Oh.  Sorry.
 
2014-02-13 03:49:25 PM
tricycleracer:

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For that, I award you one Internets.
 
2014-02-13 03:50:02 PM

pute kisses like a man: vudukungfu: Now I feel compelled to try cockroach.

if it tasted as good as lobster, i'm sure it would be a little more popular.


How do you know it doesn't? Be an innovator.
 
2014-02-13 03:50:32 PM

Vodka Zombie: tricycleracer: porcupine tree: FTFA - "That being said, we bet it's only a few more years 'til spam becomes the filet mignon of red meat."


Wouldn't filet mignon already be the 'filet mignon of red meat'?

Rolls Royce is the Cadillac of automobiles.

Andre is the beer of bottled champagnes.



Miller High Life is the champagne of bottled beer
 
2014-02-13 03:51:25 PM
Patagonian toothfish = Chilean Sea Bass.

Amazing how a new name makes it seem all exotic and more tasty.
 
2014-02-13 03:56:45 PM

"Lobster Used to Be 'The Cockroach of the Sea' and Only Fed to Servants and Cats"


Erica Schecter, Foodbeast, February 13, 2014


http://www.foodbeast.com/2014/02/13/oh-lobster-you-so-fancy/


vs


"How Lobsters Got Fancy


The surprising history-from food for the poor, servants, and prisoners to a soldier's staple to everybody's idea of a delicacy-of "the cockroach of the ocean."


Or, one of the most remarkable rebrandings in product history."


Daniel Luzer, Pacific Standard, June 7, 2013


http://www.psmag.com/navigation/business-economics/how-lobster- got-fan cy-59440/


Foodbeast: "Regarded as a dish fit only for the poor, even having lobster shells in your house was looked upon as a sign of poverty. Yet today lobster is seen as the poshest of the posh, the cousin of caviar. So, how the hell did this happen?

It starts with industrialization. When the railways began to expand across America, transportation managers realized that if no one apart from people who lived on the coast knew what lobster was, trains could serve it to inland passengers as if it were a rare, exotic item. This plan seemed to work as people started demanding lobsters beyond the railways and it didn't hurt that around this same time in the late 1800s, chefs discovered lobsters tasted much better when cooked live. Restaurants, too, got the memo. Then during World War II, lobsters weren't rationed like other foods, and so people of all classes began to eat it and "discover" its deliciousness. By the 1950s, lobster established itself as a bona fide luxury food item.

So what have we learned here? Lobster itself never changed over time, but rather the perceptions and attitudes of people towards lobster that drove the change in consumer behavior. Nowadays, lobster holds a place as one of the most expensive items at a restaurant or reserved for special occasions only. That being said, we bet it's only a few more years 'til spam becomes the filet mignon of red meat. "

Pacific Standard: "Lobsters were so abundant in the early days-residents in the Massachusetts Bay Colony found they washed up on the beach in two-foot-high piles-that people thought of them as trash food. It was fit only for the poor and served to servants or prisoners... "Lobster shells about a house are looked upon as signs of poverty and degradation," wrote John J. Rowan in 1876. Lobster was an unfamiliar, vaguely disgusting bottom feeding ocean dweller that sort of did (and does) resemble an insect, its distant relative...  So how did lobster move up in the world? Basically, it worked like this. In the early days, lobster was plentiful, so abundant it was cheap to prepare and good nutritious food to serve to servants and the incarcerated.

...And when the railways started to spread through America, transportation managers realized something interesting: If no one knew what lobster was, trains could serve it to passengers as if it were a rare, exotic item, even thought it was very cheap for those running the railroad to procure it. Inland passengers were intrigued. This lobster was delicious. Passengers, who didn't know lobster was considered trash food on the coast, started to love it and began to ask for it even after they left the train. It became a popular food. By the 1880s chefs had discovered that lobster was a lot better, and looked a lot more appetizing, if they cooked it live than if they killed it first and cooked it later.   Restaurants first started to serve lobster in the 1850s and '60s in the salad section, like bread and butter pickles or cottage cheese... During World War II, however, lobster wasn't rationed like other foods, and so people of all classes began to eat it enthusiastically, and discover its deliciousness. By the 1950s lobster was firmly established as a delicacy; lobster was something movie stars ate when they went out to dinner. It was the sort of thing girls from new-rich families ordered for their weddings, something the Rockefellers served at their parties.

...This is what happened to Pabst Blue Ribbon, which went from a working-class Midwestern beer to Brooklyn's preferred Hipster beverage. It's also what happened to Marlboro, a poorly selling women's cigarette ("Mild as May") before being rebranded to appeal to men. In both cases, nothing about the product itself changed. But if the peer behavior around the product changes, so too does our appreciation of it. Lobster might seem to taste better to us because it's so expensive...  America has overcome these original feelings of revulsion, largely thanks to a few rich people's love for the item and the thrifty ways of early train chefs.Just imagine what could have happened if the dining cars had just decided to serve liver or processed ham."

/no axe to grind, I just thought that this article sounded very familiar...
 
2014-02-13 04:03:10 PM

LemSkroob: And now that OP is on board, everybody in the world now knows this.

 
2014-02-13 04:03:52 PM

denbroc: [upload.wikimedia.org image 800x534]
Obscure?


So sleek.  So furry.  So fair.

You know, I haven't seen many around lately.
 
2014-02-13 04:07:04 PM

Rev. Skarekroe: lemurs: [img.fark.net image 306x413]

Obligatory.

Alternate universe?
Just visit Cambodia Louisiana


hungrytravelers.com
/cockroaches of the roadside ditches
 
2014-02-13 04:13:12 PM

MBooda: Rev. Skarekroe: lemurs: [img.fark.net image 306x413]

Obligatory.

Alternate universe?
Just visit Cambodia Louisiana

[hungrytravelers.com image 850x637]
/cockroaches of the roadside ditches


Tasty cockroaches of the roadside ditches, nonetheless.
 
2014-02-13 04:15:30 PM

Prey4reign: MBooda: Rev. Skarekroe: lemurs: [img.fark.net image 306x413]

Obligatory.

Alternate universe?
Just visit Cambodia Louisiana

[hungrytravelers.com image 850x637]
/cockroaches of the roadside ditches

Tasty cockroaches of the roadside ditches, nonetheless.



what are they, mud bugs?
 
2014-02-13 04:18:58 PM
Lobster Claws = Roach Clips
 
2014-02-13 04:27:17 PM
Did-a-chick?
 
2014-02-13 04:27:49 PM

WeenerGord: Prey4reign: MBooda: Rev. Skarekroe: lemurs: [img.fark.net image 306x413]

Obligatory.

Alternate universe?
Just visit Cambodia Louisiana

[hungrytravelers.com image 850x637]
/cockroaches of the roadside ditches

Tasty cockroaches of the roadside ditches, nonetheless.


what are they, mud bugs?


Yep.  And yes, tasty.

/but for gods sake make sure they're thoroughly boiled
 
2014-02-13 04:31:00 PM
"Ask any mermaid you happen to see/What's the best lobster? Cockroach of the Sea!"
 
2014-02-13 04:38:23 PM

MBooda: WeenerGord: Prey4reign: MBooda: Rev. Skarekroe: lemurs: [img.fark.net image 306x413]

Obligatory.

Alternate universe?
Just visit Cambodia Louisiana

[hungrytravelers.com image 850x637]
/cockroaches of the roadside ditches

Tasty cockroaches of the roadside ditches, nonetheless.


what are they, mud bugs?

Yep.  And yes, tasty.

/but for gods sake make sure they're thoroughly boiled



I hear that you are supposed to suck the head out.

/nttawwt
 
2014-02-13 04:40:13 PM

MBooda: Rev. Skarekroe: lemurs: [img.fark.net image 306x413]

Obligatory.

Alternate universe?
Just visit Cambodia Louisiana

[hungrytravelers.com image 850x637]
/cockroaches of the roadside ditches


Lobsters- Taste great. Crawfish- Taste like crap. No wonder why the Cajuns put so much spice on them.
 
2014-02-13 04:40:21 PM

pute kisses like a man: trying to decide what to cook the wife for valentines.  lobster sure would be easy.

/ probably going with scallops.

Please wrap them in bacon.

 
2014-02-13 04:41:39 PM

macadamnut: I'm allergic to all that nasty crap anyway, so I wonder what people thought when every so often somebody would swell up and choke to death a few minutes after eating it. I also wonder if the Semitic food laws about it have anything to do with that.



Shellfish that's not cooked properly also can contain various nasty pathogens.  Same with pork.  It wouldn't surprise me at all if a lot of ancient dietary laws come these observations.  The Koran even has a rule that says don't eat or shake hands with the hand you wipe your ass with.
 
2014-02-13 04:41:43 PM
So apparently, Lobster used to be is the "cockroach of the sea"
 
2014-02-13 04:50:58 PM

tricycleracer: Stone crab FTW

[www.plumleegulfbeachrealty.com image 500x331]


Which was considered for a LONG time to be trash, and inedible.
 
2014-02-13 04:54:09 PM
yummy prehistoric dinner

cdn.list25.com
 
2014-02-13 04:55:16 PM
Better than being the sea cucumber of the sea.
 
2014-02-13 04:57:17 PM
Not the Jedi of the sea?
 
2014-02-13 05:04:06 PM
So, now that we're all thoroughly grossed out, we won't be having a food thread this week?
 
2014-02-13 05:12:14 PM

sandi_fish: pute kisses like a man: trying to decide what to cook the wife for valentines.  lobster sure would be easy.

/ probably going with scallops.

Please wrap them in bacon.


i've been nervous to mess with scallops.  i currently have the perfect method to cook scallops, it takes about 1-2 minutes on each side to brown, then I put them on a flat sheet in the oven at 200 degrees while I prepare something else.  sometimes i make a beurre blanc sauce, or something else.  sometimes i don't make any sauce. They are perfect this way.  slightly browned, and never overcooked.

bacon takes too long to cook.  i am happy to cook the scallops in bacon fat (adjust time on the sear accordingly, since bacon fat cooks hotter than butter) but I'm afraid to cook them together.  and i really love the delicacy of scallops and bacon has too strong a flavor.

/ cooking them in bacon fat could be an option, and i'll use the bacon in something else.  like some smothered greens... which could also be cooked in bacon fat, so then, more bacon.  which greens will it be?  chard?  hmm...  if you've noticed, i generally think of pork belly as a great cooking oil.  the bacon byproduct is a bonus.
 
2014-02-13 05:13:29 PM

crzybtch: To me the lobster belongs to the following:

LAND                       SEA
Cockroach              Lobster
Shrimp                    Flies
Birds                       Fish
Clams                     Aquarium Filters


WTF are land shrimp and sea flies?

;]
 
2014-02-13 05:19:09 PM

Smeggy Smurf: PunkTiger: And crabs are sea spiders. Your point being...?

Galloping sea spiders

/things that gallop are tasty


The Galloping Gourmet?
 
2014-02-13 05:26:20 PM

casual disregard: I don't even like seafood one bit and even I can tell that was a poorly written article.

The concept is named trash fish. That would be the leftovers and scraps the fishermen couldn't sell in olden times because they were looked down upon as being unclean or not being in vogue. So you had generations of fishermen who would bring home trash fish to their families and they innovated ways to make it delicious (in some cases that's just giving it a pan sear, but it varies from item to item). Fastforward to today and now trash fish are top of the list practically. There are even restaurants dedicated to trash fish and I guarantee you, even as a person who hates seafood in general, that you're not going to find a better seafood plate anywhere else.

Trash fish. Look it up.


"Chilean Sea Bass" is actually Patagonian Toothfish. a fish so Fn ugly that they thought no one would pay for it without some trendy sounding name that would throw them off the trail of the actual creature they were eating. Think about that next time you pay $36.95 for it (I still eat it- delish and I could care less what it looks like).
 
2014-02-13 05:28:39 PM

xenomorpheus: yummy prehistoric dinner

[cdn.list25.com image 640x360]



WTF is that thing
 
2014-02-13 05:31:38 PM

pute kisses like a man: sandi_fish: pute kisses like a man: trying to decide what to cook the wife for valentines.  lobster sure would be easy.

/ probably going with scallops.

Please wrap them in bacon.

i've been nervous to mess with scallops.  i currently have the perfect method to cook scallops, it takes about 1-2 minutes on each side to brown, then I put them on a flat sheet in the oven at 200 degrees while I prepare something else.  sometimes i make a beurre blanc sauce, or something else.  sometimes i don't make any sauce. They are perfect this way.  slightly browned, and never overcooked.

bacon takes too long to cook.  i am happy to cook the scallops in bacon fat (adjust time on the sear accordingly, since bacon fat cooks hotter than butter) but I'm afraid to cook them together.  and i really love the delicacy of scallops and bacon has too strong a flavor.

/ cooking them in bacon fat could be an option, and i'll use the bacon in something else.  like some smothered greens... which could also be cooked in bacon fat, so then, more bacon.  which greens will it be?  chard?  hmm...  if you've noticed, i generally think of pork belly as a great cooking oil.  the bacon byproduct is a bonus.


You can do a nice bacon wrapped scallop if you make sure the bacon is about 75% cooked beforehand, otherwise you get perfectly cooked bacon and a horribly overcooked scallop.
 
2014-02-13 05:32:25 PM

WeenerGord: xenomorpheus: yummy prehistoric dinner

[cdn.list25.com image 640x360]


WTF is that thing


I don't know, but there's one right behind you!
 
2014-02-13 05:42:41 PM
Cockroach of the sea? Cockroach? Here we call them "Mexican shrimp".
 
2014-02-13 05:47:29 PM

Ambitwistor: Next contender:  hagfish (a.k.a. "slime eel").

[upload.wikimedia.org image 199x149]


That must be the only picture of a hagfish available online.  I see it everywhere.
 
2014-02-13 06:43:56 PM

tricycleracer: porcupine tree: FTFA - "That being said, we bet it's only a few more years 'til spam becomes the filet mignon of red meat."


Wouldn't filet mignon already be the 'filet mignon of red meat'?

Rolls Royce is the Cadillac of automobiles.


The Super Bowl is the Daytona 500 of football.

I love LOVE  LOVE lobster. Love you haters of it, too. More for me.
 
2014-02-13 06:46:17 PM

pute kisses like a man: sandi_fish: pute kisses like a man: trying to decide what to cook the wife for valentines.  lobster sure would be easy.

/ probably going with scallops.

Please wrap them in bacon.

i've been nervous to mess with scallops.  i currently have the perfect method to cook scallops, it takes about 1-2 minutes on each side to brown, then I put them on a flat sheet in the oven at 200 degrees while I prepare something else.  sometimes i make a beurre blanc sauce, or something else.  sometimes i don't make any sauce. They are perfect this way.  slightly browned, and never overcooked.

bacon takes too long to cook.  i am happy to cook the scallops in bacon fat (adjust time on the sear accordingly, since bacon fat cooks hotter than butter) but I'm afraid to cook them together.  and i really love the delicacy of scallops and bacon has too strong a flavor.

/ cooking them in bacon fat could be an option, and i'll use the bacon in something else.  like some smothered greens... which could also be cooked in bacon fat, so then, more bacon.  which greens will it be?  chard?  hmm...  if you've noticed, i generally think of pork belly as a great cooking oil.  the bacon byproduct is a bonus.


I hope you enjoy them.  Scallops are a fine meal!
 
2014-02-13 06:49:24 PM
www.global-air.com

Canadian Atlantic Lobster are truly fascinating creatures. (new window)
 
2014-02-13 07:52:21 PM
But then...melted butter...
 
2014-02-13 08:00:52 PM
Well if you dont like lobster you can send me yours.
 
2014-02-13 08:13:28 PM
It still is.  I don't care how delicious something allegedly is.  A creature that looks like that (and the innards of which you basically slurp into your mouth using its own dead body as a dish) will not be consumed by me.
 
2014-02-13 08:38:52 PM

Pattuq: It still is.  I don't care how delicious something allegedly is.  A creature that looks like that (and the innards of which you basically slurp into your mouth using its own dead body as a dish) will not be consumed by me.



How about oysters? At least you can slurp them off the shell while they are still alive.
 
2014-02-13 09:02:35 PM

sandi_fish: pute kisses like a man: sandi_fish: pute kisses like a man: trying to decide what to cook the wife for valentines.  lobster sure would be easy.

/ probably going with scallops.

Please wrap them in bacon.

i've been nervous to mess with scallops.  i currently have the perfect method to cook scallops, it takes about 1-2 minutes on each side to brown, then I put them on a flat sheet in the oven at 200 degrees while I prepare something else.  sometimes i make a beurre blanc sauce, or something else.  sometimes i don't make any sauce. They are perfect this way.  slightly browned, and never overcooked.

bacon takes too long to cook.  i am happy to cook the scallops in bacon fat (adjust time on the sear accordingly, since bacon fat cooks hotter than butter) but I'm afraid to cook them together.  and i really love the delicacy of scallops and bacon has too strong a flavor.

/ cooking them in bacon fat could be an option, and i'll use the bacon in something else.  like some smothered greens... which could also be cooked in bacon fat, so then, more bacon.  which greens will it be?  chard?  hmm...  if you've noticed, i generally think of pork belly as a great cooking oil.  the bacon byproduct is a bonus.

I hope you enjoy them.  Scallops are a fine meal!



I'm giving Mark Bittman's broiled scallops stuffed with basil a go tomorrow.
 
2014-02-13 09:31:55 PM
Wasn't salmon originally in the same category? Poor mans food.
 
2014-02-13 10:15:07 PM

RichMeatyTaste: Patagonian toothfish = Chilean Sea Bass.

Amazing how a new name makes it seem all exotic and more tasty.


s2.quickmeme.com
 
2014-02-13 10:17:52 PM
I equate people who don't like lobster the same way I do people who don't like dogs, alcohol, and steak cooked rare. i.e., WTF is wrong with you?
 
2014-02-13 10:26:33 PM

Saborlas: Hate the way they smell, the only lobster roll I ever had was awful, and I refuse to eat what appears to be a giant scorpion that's still sufficiently armed to fend off the diner.


Most overrated delicacy this side of Stone crab
 
2014-02-13 10:40:08 PM
They are related to spiders.

Tasty, tasty spiders.
 
2014-02-13 10:50:23 PM

John Buck 41: I equate people who don't like lobster the same way I do people who don't like dogs, alcohol, and steak cooked rare. i.e., WTF is wrong with you?



It's not that i don't like it, i really don't think it's so great - have you ever eaten it plain? as with no sauce or butter? - sure dunk it in hot butter it tastes good, but so would my shoe.

It's OK, you can have mine, i think a well prepared diver scallop, Chilean sea bass, eastern blue crab  - there are so many things i would prefer over lobster.

lobster kinda tough and rubbery...even when its prepared properly, eaten plain it just doesn't taste that good, yea it's good in a sandwich or mac and cheese - i just don't think it justifies the price.
 
2014-02-13 11:26:17 PM

EffervescingElephant: have you ever eaten it plain? as with no sauce or butter?


Yes. Still great.
 
2014-02-14 12:11:54 AM

rjakobi: Ya ever notice how much lobster tastes like soap? The rich foods ain't always the tastiest.


This. I've had lobster twice. Both times as a guest in restaraunts that I could not have afforded the gratuity. So, of course, I ordered one of the more expensive items on the menu. Both times the consistency could only be described as 'soapy'. I don't even remember the taste, just the texture. I love seafood in general, but not lobster.
 
2014-02-14 01:21:11 AM

hubcity: flondrix: DrunkWithImpotence: Funny how our perceptions change over time.

It sounds like the big breakthrough was cooking them live.

And with that came a whole new way to make it costly. Imagine if beef were the same way...


But how do you know it isn't??
 
2014-02-14 01:22:48 AM

Barnstormer: I make a pretty good baked stuffed lobster. The trick is to put a bed of good stuffing down in the shell,  interleave scallop slices and the lobster pieces on top of the stuffing, then drizzle it all in a high-quality lobster bisque. The baking part is actually optional if you do it right.

That said, plain lobster is... plain. Lobster absorbs the flavors around it, hence the common use of butter or lemon juice.

I read an article about the Maine coastal islands in which a local reminiscesces about the old days when if they saw someone walking home with a few lobsters they said "There goes a man who can't afford bologna."


can I eat at your house tomorrow?
 
2014-02-14 01:24:36 AM
Now that I'm on food stamps, I have complete strangers (i.e., Ayn Rand Republican Jesus types) coming up to me in the checkout lane and rummaging through my shopping cart looking for steak and lobster as if I'm smuggling contraband. One idiot even tried to take my SNAP card away from me because he thought I was too big to need help.
 
GCD
2014-02-14 06:21:43 AM
This is news why?

I grew up in Prince Edward Island - they used lobster for fertilizer on the potato fields. Bring in a fresh catch, dump it on the fields and till in it right into the ground. It wasn't uncommon to find gigantic piles of lobster shells around fields. They'd just dump them, let them die, then spread them...maybe...if they got around to it. If not, no worries. They'll lie there until they rot.

Hell, I was born in 1981 and I have memories of seeing this done - apparently it was way more frequent even before that. My parents remember it happening all the time.
 
2014-02-14 03:01:32 PM

bungle_jr: Prey4reign: Snails are disgusting animals, slowly oozing along leaving behind a disgusting film of snot like material.  Escargot are a delicacy, given enough garlic butter.

have you seen the escargot kit at walmart, or other supermarkets? i have had escargot many times and enjoyed it, but this just seems off-putting to me


You should be off pudding

www.eonline.com
 
2014-02-14 03:11:22 PM

Soulcatcher: crzybtch: To me the lobster belongs to the following:

LAND                       SEA
Cockroach              Lobster
Shrimp                    Flies
Birds                       Fish
Clams                     Aquarium Filters

WTF are land shrimp and sea flies?

;]


Land Shrimp: Arcitalitrus sylvaticus

www.whatsthatbug.com
 
2014-02-14 08:02:32 PM

Anastacya: Was the Obvious tag too busy stuffing its face with cheese biscuits?


Must have been. And what's this "used to be"crap? They are known bottom feeders. Know how to prepare them properly but never really appealed to me, shrimp taste much better.

/also cockroaches
//first chefin' job was at a Red Lobster in Fla when most items were fresh
///alas, the pre-cheese biscuit era
 
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