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(Washington Post)   RAND PAUL has graduated from plagiarizing speeches to plagiarizing lawsuits. Fark: And he's got Virginia's Ken "The Cooch" Cuccinelli as an accomplice. Cancels scheduled news conference after story breaks. RAND PAUL   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 123
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2014-02-13 12:05:06 AM
The unceremonious jettisoning of a constitutional lawyer in favor of the man best known for his unsuccessful suit to have Obamacare declared unconstitutional suggests that Paul's legal action has more to do with politics than the law.

This is my shocked face:

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And since when do sitting Senators sue the government? Isn't that kinda like suing yourself?
 
2014-02-13 12:33:46 AM

fusillade762: Isn't that kinda like suing yourself?


I think that's a regular bully tactic at law school isn't it?

/Stop suing yourself! Stop suing yourself!
 
2014-02-13 12:37:28 AM
"Mattie Fein, his ex-wife and spokeswoman"

I'd think that this arrangement has a low probability of working out.
 
2014-02-13 12:39:27 AM
If he keeps this up, he's liable to annoy someone who will strike back through the courts.  That would really suck for him.

//We're gonna need more popcorn
 
2014-02-13 12:40:00 AM
If only he had some method of introducing legislation to curb NSA's activities...

Also, he's a member of the most powerful body on the planet - why can't this man afford a decent hairpiece?
 
2014-02-13 12:43:02 AM
Meh, Cuccinelli has to do something to keep himself in tthe spotlight. Maybe someday he'll graduate to 'Bong Hits For Jesus' level cases.
 
2014-02-13 12:44:29 AM
I think I owe Rand Paul a huge thank you. He has harmed his own political career far better than anyone else on this planet would have been capable of. Thus ensuring that he has exactly zero chance of ever elevating his position to anything remotely close to the Presidency.

So, thank you Rand Paul. You've made the world a better place in incalculable ways.
 
2014-02-13 12:45:10 AM
So he took a bi-partisan suit that may have had some legitimate public support and made it a TeaPartyTM product, destined for failure. Nice police work there, Lou.
 
2014-02-13 12:46:26 AM
Rand Paul... the Shia Lebouf of politics.
 
2014-02-13 12:47:44 AM

astro716: So he took a bi-partisan suit that may have had some legitimate public support and made it a TeaPartyTM product, destined for failure. Nice police work there, Lou.


Yup. This ain't going anywhere.
 
2014-02-13 12:47:48 AM
So can we get Rand and Shia LeBoeuf in a UFC style cage match? And see if we can get Milli Vanilli to do the announcing.
 
2014-02-13 12:51:12 AM
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boil... boilur plates! I love mees some stew. Hanh!
 
2014-02-13 12:52:01 AM

Sergeant Grumbles: So can we get Rand and Shia LeBoeuf in a UFC style cage match? And see if we can get Milli Vanilli to do the announcing.


Tripp Johnston Private Eye: astro716: So he took a bi-partisan suit that may have had some legitimate public support and made it a TeaPartyTM product, destined for failure. Nice police work there, Lou.

Yup. This ain't going anywhere.


4 seconds apart.

Holy shiat that's eerie.
 
2014-02-13 12:55:52 AM
God, Rand Paul is such a flunky.  I swear he is a satirical figure. He can't be real.
 
2014-02-13 01:01:27 AM
So the NSA dragnet spying is immediately constitutional and Keith Alexander is now President.

Dammit, Rand, y u do dis. The libertarian right and left needs heroes and you're bungling this shiat.
 
2014-02-13 01:03:00 AM
" I am not a crook"


~RAND PAUL
 
2014-02-13 01:03:37 AM
What a couple of mooks.
 
2014-02-13 01:04:17 AM
Well I hate the NSA as much as any sane man should(a decent amount), I still feel weird agreeing with this "Thing" calling itself someone who cares about America. I guess a broken clock is still right twice a day, its just Rand Paul found a way to ruin that too.
 
2014-02-13 01:04:54 AM

Hollie Maea: God, Rand Paul is such a flunky.  I swear he is a satirical figure. He can't be real.


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2 more years of this ^^
 
2014-02-13 01:13:06 AM
For an attorney, working on a major precedent-setting constitutional suit against the NSA would be like being a biologist working on a major peer-reviewed paper about an HIV vaccine.  Cutting either the biologist or the attorney out of getting credit for their work would REALLY piss either off.  Who wouldn't expect the attorney to gripe up a storm about this?  And that comment about it not making sense if he wanted to continue to work on the team sounds like a half-assed promise to give him a big-time position on Randy's campaign team.  Really a very stupid and rookie play on Randy's part.

If it's true, that is.  I looked for some kind of indication it's parody, or past Milbank columns that were satire, and it kind of looks like this may be true.  What a dumbass.
 
2014-02-13 01:13:38 AM
(You know, of course, that cut&pasting from other briefs is as old a practice as you will ever find in law.)
 
2014-02-13 01:14:41 AM
Isn't it the Senate Committee on Intelligence that oversees the NSA?   So, Rand is suing Obama for not doing something the Senate is supposed to do?

/or maybe I don't understand
 
2014-02-13 01:16:10 AM

Jesterling: If only he had some method of introducing legislation to curb NSA's activities...

Also, he's a member of the most powerful body on the planet - why can't this man afford a decent hairpiece?


Are you saying he actually paid money for that thing on his head?
 
2014-02-13 01:18:45 AM

Jesterling: If only he had some method of introducing legislation to curb NSA's activities...

Also, he's a member of the most powerful body on the planet - why can't this man afford a decent hairpiece?


Writing a bill and submitting it doesn't grab headlines like filing a lawsuit.  He's running for prez!
 
2014-02-13 01:22:16 AM
He really is just an utter and total coont isnt he? I mean no redeeming features whatsover. Nothing.
 
2014-02-13 01:23:01 AM

Bucky Katt: Jesterling: If only he had some method of introducing legislation to curb NSA's activities...

Also, he's a member of the most powerful body on the planet - why can't this man afford a decent hairpiece?

Writing a bill and submitting it doesn't grab headlines like filing a lawsuit.  He's running for prez!



Why is he running. Aside from potheads and imbeciles, he doesn't have much support.
 
2014-02-13 01:23:56 AM

Gyrfalcon: (You know, of course, that cut&pasting from other briefs is as old a practice as you will ever find in law.)


Stare decisis = plagiarism? Fuuuuuuuuu

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/poor man's rich dad poor dad
//some day the GOP will legislate the state bar into irrelevancy
 
2014-02-13 01:31:48 AM

Hollie Maea: God, Rand Paul is such a flunky.  I swear he is a satirical figure. He can't be real.


Yea, I was just wondering how in the hell anyone can take him seriously. He's a caricature.

/then again, so is the tea party
 
2014-02-13 01:33:09 AM

SpacePirate: So the NSA dragnet spying is immediately constitutional and Keith Alexander is now President.


I must have missed who was saying anything like this. Care to fill me in?
 
2014-02-13 01:38:06 AM
Rand Paul might still be President.

I mean, Hitler was a farkup and thug too, wasn't he? And he rose to power throwing whatever he could at the wall until it stuck? One of these days Rand Paul is going to throw the right combination of shiat at the right trajectory and it will indeed stick. And when it does, look out, America.

--Rand Paul
 
2014-02-13 01:42:27 AM

Sergeant Grumbles: So can we get Rand and Shia LeBoeuf in a UFC style cage match? And see if we can get Milli Vanilli to do the announcing.


Well, George Zimmerman seems to want to do a celebrity boxing match, and I have a feeling DMX would kill him. Why not Rand Paul? I might actually root for Zimmerman.
 
2014-02-13 01:43:34 AM

Hollie Maea: God, Rand Paul is such a flunky.  I swear he is a satirical figure. He can't be real.


I'm thinking the muskrat he wears on his head might not be.
 
2014-02-13 01:46:31 AM
That's not very boot-strappy of Senator Paul. It is, however, extremely ironic since Paul is one of the few members of Congress who isn't a lawyer.
 
2014-02-13 01:47:29 AM

ox45tallboy: Hollie Maea: God, Rand Paul is such a flunky.  I swear he is a satirical figure. He can't be real.

I'm thinking the muskrat he wears on his head might not be.


One of these days the post hypnotic suggestion is going to wear off and he's going to start chanting "Aqua Buddha" once again. Probably right on the Senate Floor.
 
2014-02-13 01:52:34 AM

whidbey: One of these days the post hypnotic suggestion is going to wear off and he's going to start chanting "Aqua Buddha" once again. Probably right on the Senate Floor.


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2014-02-13 01:53:57 AM

SpacePirate: So the NSA dragnet spying is immediately constitutional and Keith Alexander is now President.

Dammit, Rand, y u do dis. The libertarian right and left needs heroes and you're bungling this shiat.


The fact that Rand Paul is anywhere close to being considered a "libertarian hero" just proves how bullshiat "libertarianism" is. Same with his snake-oil salesman of a father.
 
2014-02-13 01:55:51 AM

ox45tallboy:

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LULZ

*right click, save*
 
2014-02-13 02:03:15 AM

geek_mars: That's not very boot-strappy of Senator Paul. It is, however, extremely ironic since Paul is one of the few members of Congress who isn't a lawyer.


That's okay. I'm sure he created a bar association to certify himself.
 
2014-02-13 02:13:42 AM

LordJiro: SpacePirate: So the NSA dragnet spying is immediately constitutional and Keith Alexander is now President.

Dammit, Rand, y u do dis. The libertarian right and left needs heroes and you're bungling this shiat.

The fact that Rand Paul is anywhere close to being considered a "libertarian hero" just proves how bullshiat "libertarianism" is. Same with his snake-oil salesman of a father.


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I meant politically, not necessarily the teaparty variant. More congress critters need to give a damn about our rights and the constitution, I don't see that as "bullshiat".
 
2014-02-13 02:16:04 AM

SpacePirate: I meant politically, not necessarily the teaparty variant. More congress critters need to give a damn about our rights and the constitution, I don't see that as "bullshiat".


hahahahaha
wut
 
2014-02-13 02:31:33 AM

Gyrfalcon: (You know, of course, that cut&pasting from other briefs is as old a practice as you will ever find in law.)



The lawyer, Fein, was paid for his work product.  The client (Paul) gets to use the work product.  If the client fires the lawyer, the client is entitled to a copy of the file.  The client may give the file to another lawyer (Cuccinelli), who may use the materials.  Cuccinelli and Paul erred by taking Fein's work and putting the bigger name on it; unless Fein was being fired, even if bumped from top billing on the complaint he should still have been listed, especially because he seems to have been the primary author.

Paul could have gotten left-leaning civil rights organizations to join this suit.  He is stumbling (again).  But this fee dispute with one of his lawyers -- not a scandal.
 
2014-02-13 02:31:57 AM

SpacePirate: LordJiro: SpacePirate: So the NSA dragnet spying is immediately constitutional and Keith Alexander is now President.

Dammit, Rand, y u do dis. The libertarian right and left needs heroes and you're bungling this shiat.

The fact that Rand Paul is anywhere close to being considered a "libertarian hero" just proves how bullshiat "libertarianism" is. Same with his snake-oil salesman of a father.

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I meant politically, not necessarily the teaparty variant. More congress critters need to give a damn about our rights and the constitution, I don't see that as "bullshiat".



Ron Paul has repeatedly backed legislation to trample womens' right to make their own reproductive choices, and his son, Ron W. Paul, publicly stated his opposition to the Civil Rights Act.

Oh, by "our rights," you meant weed and prostitutes, don't you? They spoke out in favor of those a couple of times, so that means they're totally different than the other Kochsuckers, right?
 
2014-02-13 02:32:25 AM
What a dick.

A couple of my casual stoner friends were going on about Rand/Ron Paul because they favor legalization of weed, oblivious to their other batshiat crazy stances.

The thing I notice about Libertarian politicians is that they reach out for all the single issue voters, hoping to loosely reel them in with their feel-good mantra. Pro weed, pro life, pro corporate welfare, pro jaysus, pro institutitionalized racism because lolprivate business, etc. There's something for everyone if you can spin it with a do-it-yourself attitude! And if you don't like it, well I guess you're just not bootstrappy enough to vote with your wallet, so who cares what you think?

Yet the suckers get reeled in anyway because they're too lazy to do some research and pay attention beyond their own jaded views.

Rand's just a typical republican, mascquerading under the guise of the tea party and small government in an attempt to differentiate himself from the establishment. The irony is that he's too farking stupid to form his own arguments, so he assumes nobody will notice when he steals them. Selling out bipartisanship for political points is pretty par for the course, but it only adds to my disdain for the guy.
 
2014-02-13 02:42:45 AM

SpacePirate: LordJiro: SpacePirate: So the NSA dragnet spying is immediately constitutional and Keith Alexander is now President.

Dammit, Rand, y u do dis. The libertarian right and left needs heroes and you're bungling this shiat.

The fact that Rand Paul is anywhere close to being considered a "libertarian hero" just proves how bullshiat "libertarianism" is. Same with his snake-oil salesman of a father.

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I meant politically, not necessarily the teaparty variant. More congress critters need to give a damn about our rights and the constitution, I don't see that as "bullshiat".


And the Pauls never gave a shiat about the rights of anyone who wasn't a heterosexual white Christian.
 
2014-02-13 02:46:04 AM
stoli n coke: Ron Paul has repeatedly backed legislation to trample womens' right to make their own reproductive choices, and his son, Ron W. Paul, publicly stated his opposition to the Civil Rights Act.

Oh, by "our rights," you meant weed and prostitutes, don't you? They spoke out in favor of those a couple of times, so that means they're totally different than the other Kochsuckers, right?


Hah, you got me, doobie in one hand and coupla' cheap hookers in the other. He's also an adamant defender of privacy and the rest of the bill of rights. That, and he'd have the most sane foreign policy of the whole right wing. Of course, anyone not defending our bloated defense budget, military industrial complex and globalist hegemony doesn't stand a chance in our current two party monopoly.

But you're right actually. I don't think we should go back to the gold standard or have women's contraception not be covered by their insurance. Like I said, we need more libertarian heroes so his other views can get more face time without having to stand beside the Pauls.
 
2014-02-13 02:46:18 AM

whidbey: SpacePirate: I meant politically, not necessarily the teaparty variant. More congress critters need to give a damn about our rights and the constitution, I don't see that as "bullshiat".

hahahahaha
wut


You know, the constitutional right to use drones to kill the n...um, person robbing a liquor store in a white neighborho....er, the US of A.
 
2014-02-13 02:46:25 AM

SpacePirate: LordJiro: SpacePirate: So the NSA dragnet spying is immediately constitutional and Keith Alexander is now President.

Dammit, Rand, y u do dis. The libertarian right and left needs heroes and you're bungling this shiat.

The fact that Rand Paul is anywhere close to being considered a "libertarian hero" just proves how bullshiat "libertarianism" is. Same with his snake-oil salesman of a father.

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I meant politically, not necessarily the teaparty variant. More congress critters need to give a damn about our rights and the constitution, I don't see that as "bullshiat".


When it's the right to allow establishments to discriminate against others based on ignorance, then Rand Paul can fark right off. Between his views regarding women and civil rights, he's about as selective as it gets when it comes to "personal freedoms".

Easy for him stand back and say "lol state's rights, not my problem" when trying to sidestep his blatant prejudice.

There's nothing libertarian about Rand Paul, because he only seeks liberty for those who agree with him.
 
2014-02-13 02:57:36 AM

SpacePirate: stoli n coke: Ron Paul has repeatedly backed legislation to trample womens' right to make their own reproductive choices, and his son, Ron W. Paul, publicly stated his opposition to the Civil Rights Act.

Oh, by "our rights," you meant weed and prostitutes, don't you? They spoke out in favor of those a couple of times, so that means they're totally different than the other Kochsuckers, right?

Hah, you got me, doobie in one hand and coupla' cheap hookers in the other. He's also an adamant defender of privacy and the rest of the bill of rights.



That's a dog and pony show to appeal to the black helicopter conspiracy crowd. Same way Ron Paul claims to oppose wasteful government spending, then loads bills with pork for his own district, then, when the bill's passage is certain, he votes no so he can be viewed by the slow-witted as "the lone voice of opposition." They never actually go out on a limb to change anything, but they've perfected pretending like they care about changing it.

So called Libertarians get played like a fiddle so often, Charlie Daniels is envious.
 
2014-02-13 02:58:38 AM

SpacePirate: Like I said, we need more libertarian heroes so his other views can get more face time without having to stand beside the Pauls.


What do you mean "more?"
 
2014-02-13 02:59:11 AM

SpacePirate: So the NSA dragnet spying is immediately constitutional and Keith Alexander is now President.

Dammit, Rand, y u do dis. The libertarian right and left needs heroes and you're bungling this shiat.


You do realize that the libertarian left (the original European libertarians) are basically socialist, and that the libertarian right (the American retarded cousin) are basically right-wing, corporatist, randians?  They have nothing in common, much less Rand farking Paul.
 
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