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(Chicago Trib)   Kroger sued for mislabeling chicken; apparently, they referred to it as "chicken" and not "mystery meat"   (chicagotribune.com) divider line 52
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2014-02-14 02:50:50 AM

Pangea: First time I've seen anyone arguing a pro-cage stance for chickens.


I love to argue both sides...

Pangea: I've raised chickens and they seem to enjoy being in a coop. I reject your limited world view that attributes any of my beliefs to PETA.


You're not the target audience then, since that's people who don't actually know crap about raising chickens.  Besides, you misread my statement, which in the context of PETA was ONLY mentioning that advertising your broilers as 'cage free' would work on a specific customer segment.  I specified said segment as 'feel-good consumers' because they're buying something to make themselves feel better about themselves, not just shopping for nutrition/taste.  I also said that the reason they'd fall for that is that PETA videos tend to concentrate on the worst looking aspects of animal production, just tending to delude said consumers into thinking that ALL standard production chicken is caged.

Yes, chickens like shelter, they also have dominance issues which comes as they mature.  This doesn't become a factor for meat chickens because they're generally slaughtered before it becomes an issue, but it does for layers because even hens become territorial.  It's not that big of a deal when you have a very limited number of hens because once they establish a pecking order they're good unless another chicken is introduced(and even that's simply a resort in to establish the new hen's place).  The problem becomes much larger when you're talking about flocks the size of a commercial operation - there's too many chickens in too small of a space to establish a pecking order without continous fighting.  So you isolate them a bit, each one gets it's own roost and you're good.  A cage too small isn't good, but it doesn't need to be huge either.  Reports I've seen about chickens provided things like external runs are that commercial breeds don't use them.

I support animal cruelty...when it comes to Ingrid Newkirk and her cult of dittoheads.

I hope you didn't take my little comment to mean that I support PETA in any way...
 
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