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(Billboard)   U2 will perform their outstanding new song from Mandela, "Ordinary Love," at the Oscars. It's nice that the greatest band of the 20th and 21st century could carve out some time in their busy schedule   (billboard.com) divider line 68
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2014-02-13 12:08:36 AM  
U2 really is the type of bland, untalented crap that someone who gets excited to watch the Oscars would like.

Oh my honey, the Oscars are on tonight, squeeeeee! I'm so calling in sick tomorrow so I can enjoy a Miller 64 while watching three hours of celebrities circle jerking each other. The ranch taco sandwiches were great tonight by the way dear, oh my golly can you believe she's wearing that dress!? No....NOOOOOOO, she didn't!
 
2014-02-13 02:25:21 AM  
I wish I was cool enough to be uninterested in U2.
 
2014-02-13 02:53:36 AM  
There's no hate quite like U2 hate.  I'm not much of a fan myself (when did Joshua Tree come out?), but can someone please explain it to me?  I mean, in terms of popular bands that do shiat at things like the Oscars or make Super Bowl ads, they seem like the good guys out there.
 
2014-02-13 03:05:25 AM  
I can see some critique of latter day U2. A bit preachy.

But October, War, some of Achtung Baby, Unforgettable Fire and Joshua Tree are excellent.
 
2014-02-13 03:48:52 AM  
Ah yes, U2.

The "Up With People" of rock music.
 
2014-02-13 04:04:26 AM  

Solid State Vittles: There's no hate quite like U2 hate.  I'm not much of a fan myself (when did Joshua Tree come out?), but can someone please explain it to me?  I mean, in terms of popular bands that do shiat at things like the Oscars or make Super Bowl ads, they seem like the good guys out there.


It's been going on for quite a while. Perhaps it's quite fashionable and hasn't gone out of style
 
2014-02-13 04:21:58 AM  

violentsalvation: U2 really is the type of bland, untalented crap that someone who gets excited to watch the Oscars would like.

Oh my honey, the Oscars are on tonight, squeeeeee! I'm so calling in sick tomorrow so I can enjoy a Miller 64 while watching three hours of celebrities circle jerking each other. The ranch taco sandwiches were great tonight by the way dear, oh my golly can you believe she's wearing that dress!? No....NOOOOOOO, she didn't!


Wow.  Really breaking the mold there.  I don't like them so they're crap.

You must be a fun dude to hang out with.  I particularly like the jaded assessment of celebrity obsession after coming specifically to a tab marked "entertainment" which is only ever about celebrity obsession.

You obviously care enough to look it up and then comment, in which case you're a bit of a hypocrite.  Or you're just trolling, in which case 5 out of 10 I guess because you sucked me in to responding, but your comment was only so-so.
 
2014-02-13 04:34:08 AM  
I never got all the hype about them (I've tried), but other than the occasional song here and there it just ain't my thing.  But for those that like them, cool.
 
2014-02-13 05:03:50 AM  
static.gigwise.com
/oblig
//he's a self-important douche
///anyone this involved in politics can't help but be an asshole of grimace proportions
 
2014-02-13 05:06:34 AM  
I don't get it either. The last album I liked was Actung Baby, but there's people out there who still like them. They've carved out 30+ years of success in an industry that's very difficult to work beyond the flash-in-the-pan Tweens.

I don't buy their stuff, but all power to them, I say.
 
2014-02-13 05:13:48 AM  
You's trollin subz. They're not even the greatest band of the 80's!
 
2014-02-13 05:14:39 AM  
Nice troll headline.
 
2014-02-13 05:44:18 AM  
 
2014-02-13 05:53:23 AM  
They have a new album out soon. Surprise.
 
2014-02-13 06:13:46 AM  

scamp-dun-emer: I don't get it either. The last album I liked was Actung Baby, but there's people out there who still like them. They've carved out 30+ years of success in an industry that's very difficult to work beyond the flash-in-the-pan Tweens.

I don't buy their stuff, but all power to them, I say.


I don't get the impression it is about the music so much, but rather the lead singers behavior that seems to rub some people up the wrong way. I guess you could compare to Fark favorite Justin Bieber - rarely does his music even get mentioned - I presume it is some sort of generic pop type stuff (maybe with some limited rap-style sections given that seems popular for now), but rather his off-stage antics that seem to attract Farkers to spend every day discussing his latest activities.
 
2014-02-13 06:21:21 AM  
Can't stand the band.   With the  exception of "Numb" which I love.  I just remember back in 1983, when I was 18 - For lack of a better word, the 'hipsters" at the time, decided that U2 was the greatest band in the world.  oh and lover boy.  With that said, I bought a U2 "War" coffee mug on the cheap yesterday as a Valentine gift for the wife.  She thinks Bono is god.  I will say this though, any band that can stay intact over thirty years and still have an influence deserves some accolades.
 
2014-02-13 06:22:06 AM  
Nice to know U2's given up overpriced concert tickets, jumbotrons, fancy governmental banquets, limos, and mansions, and gave it all to the poor folks in Africa that Bono keeps talking about. Oh, wait, news flash. This just in...........
 
2014-02-13 06:43:50 AM  
A bunch of celebrities up their own asses plus Bono being up his own ass it's like a vortex of ass.
 
2014-02-13 06:56:41 AM  
"Oh, that's God. He just thinks he's Bono."
 
2014-02-13 07:05:50 AM  

xria: scamp-dun-emer: I don't get it either. The last album I liked was Actung Baby, but there's people out there who still like them. They've carved out 30+ years of success in an industry that's very difficult to work beyond the flash-in-the-pan Tweens.

I don't buy their stuff, but all power to them, I say.

I don't get the impression it is about the music so much, but rather the lead singers behavior that seems to rub some people up the wrong way. I guess you could compare to Fark favorite Justin Bieber - rarely does his music even get mentioned - I presume it is some sort of generic pop type stuff (maybe with some limited rap-style sections given that seems popular for now), but rather his off-stage antics that seem to attract Farkers to spend every day discussing his latest activities.


Yeah, I can actually understand that. I'm old enough to admit that I did write letters to the SA govt for the release of Nelson Mandela and it was all U2's fault. To be fair, I did a lot of other Amnesty International work entirely unrelated. But even I drew a line eventually on the lecturing. However, I never saw the need to hold that against them.

Yes, I think Bono's a dick and I'd probably rather drink alone than have to sit through a pint with him, but I'm not going to hate on the band/music because of that. I just don't pay them to exist any more. Others obviously do.

Who has the time or energy to put into something they don't like? The same people who have nothing else to fill their time.
 
2014-02-13 07:19:31 AM  
U2 is basically the same thing as Coldplay. If you still can't understand why people hate on them then you never will.

/like a couple of Coldplay songs and maybe a couple of U2 songs. They are both still hokey
 
2014-02-13 07:43:49 AM  
That may be a bit overstated.
 
2014-02-13 08:19:55 AM  
Huge U2 fan, but the song sucks ass.

the new single, "Invisible", is interesting, although a bit retready of the last two albums.  what i do like is the Kraftwerkesque drumbeat.

I love U2 but the song is terrible.
 
2014-02-13 08:25:50 AM  
I don't care as long as Idina Menzel is performing 'Let it Go' as opposed to Demi Lovato.
 
2014-02-13 08:26:30 AM  
People hate U2 for the same reasons people hate Celine Dion/Michael Bolton/Green Day/Nickelback, etc.

Difference of opinion x Apathy / (Loathing + Hatred of Top 40 Billboard)
 
2014-02-13 08:33:13 AM  

cygnusx13: I can see some critique of latter day U2. A bit preachy.

But October, War, some of Achtung Baby, Unforgettable Fire and Joshua Tree are excellent.


This.
 
2014-02-13 08:40:22 AM  
I met Bono a few years ago and spoke & joked with him about quite a few things.  He was a very nice guy IMO that was trying to help people with his celebrity.  I'm not a big fan of their recent music, but the Bono hate really is unwarented.
 
2014-02-13 09:25:35 AM  

gabba2: I met Bono a few years ago and spoke & joked with him about quite a few things.  He was a very nice guy IMO that was trying to help people with his celebrity.  I'm not a big fan of their recent music, but the Bono hate really is unwarented.



that's cool....my brush with a brush with Bono is, a friend of mine has an insanely wealthy friend in NYC, lives in the same building.  so a few years ago, not long after the "Claw" tour ended, my friend and his buddy are walking back to their building, waiting at the elevator.  corner of his eye he notices a shortish man with 2-3 younger women with him, walking to the elevator.  as they get closer, my friend hears an irish brogue and looks over, and he's like, "dude....BONO!"  Said he was friendly but guarded.  my friend had seen them in Chicago, told Bono, Bono said something like, "yeah, that was a great show, well, have a good night!"  cordial but not effusive, perhaps becuase his daughters were with him.  *shrug*

i love U2 but one thing that drives me nuts is how bono out of one corner of his mouth is the champion of debt relief, yet out of the other charges $95 for the cheapest seat in the house and $140 for the good seats.  well, ok, U2 always points out the $40 seats for the inner ring, but, newsflash, in a 68,000 seat stadium, there are only about 3,000-4,000 of those seats available for the public.  if even that.   so congratulations, if you aren't lucky enough to get THOSE tickets, then you have to lay out anywhere from $200 - $300, BEFORE FEES, for two tickets, and then listen to Bono preach about debt relief for Africa.

lastly, i was just telling this story, on the Claw tour, i was maybe 10' away from bono and had the perfect angle -- in line with the angle he wsa holding the green Gretsch "The Goal Is Soul" guitar ("One", perhaps "Walk On").  well, the old boy was fretting chords just as you please, but........his pick hand was a good 3-4 inches off the strings.

so, if you are watching him on the videoscreens, or you are sitting 120 yards away, or standing 40yards Edge side, you think he's playing.  nope!  that's the kind of shiat i'm talking about with Bono.  He was nowhere near the strings.  bono, what the fark?  i'd rather you didn't even hold the damn guitar and fake it.  but that is, aside from being cheesy, bullshiatty.

that's the kind of shiat that explains my love/hate for U2.
 
2014-02-13 09:28:24 AM  
God forbid a celebrity use his status and wealth to try to improve the world.  Really, guys like George Clooney lecture way more than Bono, and way more politically, but we all love George Clooney (including me and I'm a conservative).  About the only time it's ever annoyed/disappointed me was when the Always Sunny in Philadelphia crew came out as anti-GMO nutbags.

And Jenny McCarthy I guess, but she hasn't been relevant in 15 years.
 
2014-02-13 09:31:20 AM  

rickythepenguin: i love U2 but one thing that drives me nuts is how bono out of one corner of his mouth is the champion of debt relief, yet out of the other charges $95 for the cheapest seat in the house and $140 for the good seats.  well, ok, U2 always points out the $40 seats for the inner ring, but, newsflash, in a 68,000 seat stadium, there are only about 3,000-4,000 of those seats available for the public.  if even that.   so congratulations, if you aren't lucky enough to get THOSE tickets, then you have to lay out anywhere from $200 - $300, BEFORE FEES, for two tickets, and then listen to Bono preach about debt relief for Africa.


He's asking for debt relief for people who have to walk two miles to get water every day.  People whose entire workday is devoted to mere subsistence.  You're biatching that concert ticket prices are so high they might cost you four days of wages.
 
2014-02-13 09:38:21 AM  

FLMountainMan: You're biatching that concert ticket prices are so high they might cost you four days of wages.


how much of what i pay U2 ends up in U2's pockets and not African coffers?  im not expecting the man (or the band, or the massive staff they need to pull off their shows) to work for free, but, it rings more than a little hollow at the end of the day.
 
2014-02-13 09:39:53 AM  
Repeat repeat peddles peddles are are fun fun.
Repeat repeat peddles peddles are are fun fun.
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Repeat repeat peddles peddles are are fun fun.

I liked Joshua Tree and earlier.
 
2014-02-13 09:45:28 AM  

rickythepenguin: FLMountainMan: You're biatching that concert ticket prices are so high they might cost you four days of wages.

how much of what i pay U2 ends up in U2's pockets and not African coffers?  im not expecting the man (or the band, or the massive staff they need to pull off their shows) to work for free, but, it rings more than a little hollow at the end of the day.


What percentage would satisfy you?
 
2014-02-13 09:53:52 AM  

RaceBoatDriver: Repeat repeat peddles peddles are are fun fun.


David Gilmour pioneered the use of pedals, and uses a ton of delay.  I'm not saying ZOMG EDGE IS GILMOUR but, Edge has a sound unlike anybody else, and he writes some amazing riffs.  i'll take his minimalist but creative sound over any Dream Theater / prog / metal "why play 7 notes when you can play 48?" self-indulgent (or with metal, boring and sludge-y) sound.


LewDux: What percentage would satisfy you?


they grossed $736 Meeeeeeeeeeeeellllion dollars for the Claw Tour.  not looking for a percentage per se, but....what's that breakdown, net, for the 4 band members?  how much of that stayed in pocket versus us being exhorted to donate money to "raise awareness"?
 
2014-02-13 10:00:14 AM  

rickythepenguin: LewDux: What percentage would satisfy you?

they grossed $736 Meeeeeeeeeeeeellllion dollars for the Claw Tour. not looking for a percentage per se, but....what's that breakdown, net, for the 4 band members? how much of that stayed in pocket versus us being exhorted to donate money to "raise awareness"?


Hey, I'm not the one who claims that they didn't give enough
/gross - before euctions
 
2014-02-13 10:21:03 AM  
LewDux:
/gross - before euctions

Looks like someone needs the d


/not a fan, but Bullet the Blue Sky is awesome
//outside, it's America
 
2014-02-13 10:44:23 AM  
Love the U2 hate.  Saw them first when they came touring for Boy, loved them ever since.  Best live show I've ever seen.  Give me even mediocre U2 over all of the computer generated, voice modulated crap that passes for music these days.
 
2014-02-13 10:47:54 AM  

rickythepenguin: RaceBoatDriver: Repeat repeat peddles peddles are are fun fun.

David Gilmour pioneered the use of pedals, and uses a ton of delay.  I'm not saying ZOMG EDGE IS GILMOUR but, Edge has a sound unlike anybody else, and he writes some amazing riffs.  i'll take his minimalist but creative sound over any Dream Theater / prog / metal "why play 7 notes when you can play 48?" self-indulgent (or with metal, boring and sludge-y) sound.


LewDux: What percentage would satisfy you?

they grossed $736 Meeeeeeeeeeeeellllion dollars for the Claw Tour.  not looking for a percentage per se, but....what's that breakdown, net, for the 4 band members?  how much of that stayed in pocket versus us being exhorted to donate money to "raise awareness"?


Do you get what debt relief is? The various Cold War players gave money to various African nations to get them on their side and use them as proxies against each other and now, 25 years after the end of the cold war, these nations are crippled by debt repayments and the point of the movement is to have the governments just call it even. That's not him asking you or him to give money, (though someone could get really obtuse and say that those meager funds coming in from some impoverished nation aren't now going to pay for their particular tax break in America where you not only have access to drinking water but, you know money to burn on concert tickets), rather the movement is to get people behind an idea and press their government to support that idea. Which basically amounts to "Oh ok, you don't have to repay those 50 year old predatory loans that we gave you in order to use you as a chess piece against the commies. We're cool."
 
2014-02-13 10:52:37 AM  

elvindeath: Love the U2 hate.  Saw them first when they came touring for Boy, loved them ever since.  Best live show I've ever seen.  Give me even mediocre U2 over all of the computer generated, voice modulated crap that passes for music these days.


Yes, those are the only two choices.

And if that were true, I will choose the computer generated voice modulated crap just to mess with you.

/uno dos tres catorce!
 
2014-02-13 10:53:44 AM  
I've been a U2 fan for so long I owned "The Unforgetable Fire" on 8 track tape. But I was still amazed at the last 360 Tour concert how many people under 25 were at the show.

/Get off my lawn
 
2014-02-13 11:01:41 AM  

busy chillin': elvindeath: Love the U2 hate.  Saw them first when they came touring for Boy, loved them ever since.  Best live show I've ever seen.  Give me even mediocre U2 over all of the computer generated, voice modulated crap that passes for music these days.

Yes, those are the only two choices.

And if that were true, I will choose the computer generated voice modulated crap just to mess with you.

/uno dos tres catorce!


Link
 
2014-02-13 11:13:21 AM  

stuhayes2010: cygnusx13: I can see some critique of latter day U2. A bit preachy.

But October, War, some of Achtung Baby, Unforgettable Fire and Joshua Tree are excellent.

This.


This²
 
2014-02-13 11:14:18 AM  
What would impress me if:

1. Bono and the band had a press release before the Oscars saying they were not going to perform because due to the state of affairs in the world, a ceremony of entitled wealthy celebs patting each other on the back is not the message to send to the world

2.Bono goes on stage and tells the audience to give all of their gift bags to charity and they will be sold and the funds given to the starving children of the world, and has ushers waiting on the sidelines with giant santa sacks to collect them.
 
2014-02-13 11:30:59 AM  
isn't that Oscar shiat over and done with?
 
2014-02-13 11:33:21 AM  

LewDux: Solid State Vittles: There's no hate quite like U2 hate.  I'm not much of a fan myself (when did Joshua Tree come out?), but can someone please explain it to me?  I mean, in terms of popular bands that do shiat at things like the Oscars or make Super Bowl ads, they seem like the good guys out there.


It's been going on for quite a while. Perhaps it's quite fashionable and hasn't gone out of style

*golf clap* One of my favourite songs :)
 
2014-02-13 11:33:44 AM  

rickythepenguin: RaceBoatDriver: Repeat repeat peddles peddles are are fun fun.

David Gilmour pioneered the use of pedals, and uses a ton of delay.  I'm not saying ZOMG EDGE IS GILMOUR but, Edge has a sound unlike anybody else, and he writes some amazing riffs.  i'll take his minimalist but creative sound over any Dream Theater / prog / metal "why play 7 notes when you can play 48?" self-indulgent (or with metal, boring and sludge-y) sound.



Yep, I agree that the repeat peddle has a home.  It's just so prevalent in U2's music.  I've heard the Edge described (derisively) as a texturist.  And that's true to a large extent.  The music becomes derivative of itself short of a catchy melody.

I do miss some of the political tones of the early albums.  It complemented the repeat peddle and melody in such a way that it bought the band success.  Bloody Sunday definitely wasn't part of my public school education.  But...  Dunno.  Seems like they grew complacent.

I constantly begged my guitar teacher to show me some of those riffs, always met with eye rolls.  He was more of a cry or sing player with a nice sunburst Les Paul.  Fuzz pedal, but no repeat.
 
2014-02-13 11:35:56 AM  

LewDux: /gross - before euctions


oh thanks, i didn't know what 'gross' meant re income.


elvindeath: Saw them first when they came touring for Boy, loved them ever since. Best live show I've ever seen.


my first was Rattle and Hum, specifically the 12/20/87 show filmed.  in the theatres, i could pick myself out of the crowd on a couple of long shots, but even on the 46" HD, I can't.  i was absolutely unable (military watch) to catch ZOOTV (fark!), and then I passed on POPmart because I had fallen so out o flove with U2.  i caught both legs of the ATYCLB ("new york" sucked in april 2001, had a whole new meaning nov 2001).  i think i caugth two nights of Atom Bomb, not certain, then the Claw tour.

the nov 2001 show was about 6-7 weeks post 9/11.  they flashed the names of victims on the video walls during......Bad?  One?  forget.  it was also about a month or so after the d-backs world series win over the yankees.  during 'Walk On', the last song of the night, bono goes, "ladies and gentleman, mistah Randy JohnsTTTTTTTTon!" and Unit came out in a d-backs jersey, holding the WS trophy.  one of the loudest things i've ever heard.  the crowd exploded.  I used to have the show, decent AUD recording, loaned it out, never saw it again.
 
2014-02-13 11:46:12 AM  

RaceBoatDriver: It's just so prevalent in U2's music.


yeah, but not as much as people believe.  "One", arguably one of their most known songs, has precious little. (OK, the outro has it but not the 'classic' Edge echo).  a good number of the more radio friendly songs (angel of harlem, desire, mysterious ways) don't use it either (a) at all or (b) subtly.  obviously 'Streets' is an delay-fest but some of the more popular songs have it sparingly.  'Stay (Faraway So Close)' is a gem, and has more of a (guitar) chorus effect versus delay on the chorus.

"Stay" was a highlight on the recent shows, when Edge and Bono performed it acoustic.  Amazing how much Edge sounds like Edge on a naked acoustic.  no echo, maybe a bit of chorus but i doubt it.  his characteristic "chime' came through.  not many guitarists have that.  Harrison, Garcia, maybe Page.....Claption plays such a different kind of acoustic that I don't think he sounds like Clapton.  Santana kinda does, with that really sharp attack but he plays acoustic so sparingly it is hard to say.


RaceBoatDriver: He was more of a cry or sing player with a nice sunburst Les Paul. Fuzz pedal, but no repeat.


thing is Edge can tear it up.  the recent versions of "Bullet" have an extended solo where, while he may not be confused with Randy Rhoads anytime soon, he is playing some top shelf RAWWWWK guitar.
 
2014-02-13 12:37:06 PM  
Pharrel is gonna be screwed out of an Oscar.
 
2014-02-13 12:46:03 PM  

Solid State Vittles: There's no hate quite like U2 hate.  I'm not much of a fan myself (when did Joshua Tree come out?), but can someone please explain it to me?  I mean, in terms of popular bands that do shiat at things like the Oscars or make Super Bowl ads, they seem like the good guys out there.


I don't really care that they're douchebags. Hell, I love me some Kanye West and he's a douchebag. I don't care if they "sell out" by doing big events like these (is that a complaint?) And they do some good charity stuff (so I've been told), so whatever.

I just think their music is very meh for the accolades they get. They're very adult contemporary, something I'd hear in a dentist's waiting room. For supposedly being this musical juggernaut, I think they're bland. It doesn't help that one of my best friends in high school was U2 fan #1 and wouldn't shut up about them. Whenever he'd put on a CD in my car, I'd be like, "these guys are who you're so amped up about?" If they were just some band, I wouldn't give them two thoughts, but the way they're held up in such high regard, and how it's just assumed everyone is a fan of theirs, is confusing and astounding to me. I feel the same way about Pearl Jam.

But hey, if people like U2, whatever. To each their own.
 
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