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(Jalopnik)   Raleigh-Durham, jealous of all the winter press Atlanta has gotten, turns interstate into parking lot   (jalopnik.com) divider line 178
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2014-02-12 11:31:57 PM  
czei:

But despite the asshats, I think the biggest problem is no one in the RTP buys tires based on how well they handle in the snow.  Tires make a huge difference on traction, and that exacerbates the lack of driving skills.  All the northern transplants from where you get a lot of snow either buy all seasons that can handle snow or swap on snow tires in the winter.  5 or 7 years in the south with no snow means people are choosing tires that can't handle snow since they suck in the summer.

This.  I called my bro (parents, bro and sis lives in Raleigh-Durham, NC) and we talked about dad getting stuck for a little while.  He has the truck for it, but he has nearly bald summer tires.  He saw my point about the tires, but still tried to argue the truck being RWD.  I said that didn't really have anything to do with it, he didn't have good tires and he hasn't really driven in snow since 1980.  I told him if I can get around on unplowed roads in dad's old RWD Ranger, his newer F-150 would be a dream, he just needs better tires.
 
2014-02-12 11:34:18 PM  

lack of warmth: He saw my point about the tires, but still tried to argue the truck being RWD.


Seriously not good for snow or ice.
 
2014-02-12 11:44:16 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: with a windchill of 12 degrees

Ummmm... yeahhhhh...  Wind chill here today is -40.  It's the same in Centigrade or Fahrenheit and it's damn cold.  12F is -11C - that's getting close to shirtsleeve weather in a Northern Alberta winter.


No one cares.
 
2014-02-12 11:48:06 PM  

tomerson: Benevolent Misanthrope: with a windchill of 12 degrees

Ummmm... yeahhhhh...  Wind chill here today is -40.  It's the same in Centigrade or Fahrenheit and it's damn cold.  12F is -11C - that's getting close to shirtsleeve weather in a Northern Alberta winter.

No one cares.


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2014-02-12 11:49:14 PM  

Boo_Guy: czei: Not to miss out on the fun I did venture forth in my 4WD rally car intending on finding a remote parking lot, but only narrowly missed getting hit by three SUVs in a row running a stop sign, and then immediately got stuck in a line of cars that couldn't make it up a 1% grade.

What kind of car is it?

I have an old 4wd turbo celica that I'm hoping to get completely fixed up someday as my toy.


That would make an awesome rally car.  I'm driving a gutted '93 Subaru Legacy that cost $1,200 including 3 sets of wheels.  The rally tires are so solid in the snow it takes the hand brake to make it drift. The damn thing has 245K miles on it and has been through more than 60 races and the only things its needed are a new clutch and oil pan.

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2014-02-13 12:02:47 AM  

Boojum2k: lack of warmth: He saw my point about the tires, but still tried to argue the truck being RWD.

Seriously not good for snow or ice.


Depends, if you're in a hurry 4wd is the way to go, if you are out on a day off just running errands rwd can be pretty fun.  I like my selector switch, 'oh, I need to make a u-turn', I then flip it to rwd and give it a little gas and the u-turn is complete.  It takes practice and the wife hates it, but the kids and I have fun.

Whereas, getting stuck behind a fwd car with crappy tires is the most annoying thing ever.
 
2014-02-13 12:06:39 AM  
South Maryville @ 11:50pm ~ 6"
/my house of course
//got 7 more hours of snow to go

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2014-02-13 12:07:37 AM  

Huggermugger: detroitdoesntsuckthatbad: orezona: What actual Snowmaggedon looks like:

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Glenwood Ave.

Holy shiat? Where is that on Glenwood, up by Crabtree?

/used to live in Cameron Village
//miss Foundation's awesome recession Sunday drink menu

OMG, used to live near Cameron Village.  Went to Broughton High School.  Early 70s, so it was a very sleepy place at the time.




You know the apartments next to the street into Broughton that looked like the Brady Bunch house? This guy
/worked in RTP, easy drive in and out down Wake each day. Damn I miss Raleigh.
 
2014-02-13 12:18:20 AM  
The snow packed down and was very dense, any hills became difficult to drive on.  Southbound capital blvd went from 4 lanes to a single car at a time attempting to climb the hill to get over 440... With people helping to push.

I got stuck downtown on the way home, I was at a red light on a slight incline.  But I used my snow scraper to clear the pavement ahead and was able to regain traction once I flipped off the stupid ass stability control.

Everyone knew this was coming, I honestly was expecting it to take me an hour to get home (about 2.5x longer than normal).  Instead it took me 3 and a half hours.  Once I got off capital, I cut through wood crest and oakwood.  It was quite serene driving through there.
 
2014-02-13 12:22:40 AM  

lack of warmth: Whereas, getting stuck behind a fwd car with crappy tires is the most annoying thing ever.


In NH I had a FWD low-bodied car that ignored snow* and most ice. Drove like on asphalt. Never had much luck with RWD, and most of the cars I saw spun off on the side were AWD Subaru's and 4WD SUV's.

*Except on a December date, when it got stuck on a snowpile at a parking lot exit.
/Best. Date. Ever!
 
2014-02-13 12:39:13 AM  

mr lawson: South Maryville @ 11:50pm ~ 6"
/my house of course
//got 7 more hours of snow to go


My 4.5" report was a hour or 2 ago just measured at 5.25" (135 mm for you euro farkers, not sure what that is in Rods for the UK farkers)
 
2014-02-13 01:02:55 AM  

Oldiron_79: mr lawson: South Maryville @ 11:50pm ~ 6"
/my house of course
//got 7 more hours of snow to go

My 4.5" report was a hour or 2 ago just measured at 5.25" (135 mm for you euro farkers, not sure what that is in Rods for the UK farkers)


Depends how long your rod is.  I guess you're already well past one rod.
 
2014-02-13 01:11:15 AM  

Oldiron_79: My 4.5" report was a hour or 2 ago just measured at 5.25" (135 mm for you euro farkers, not sure what that is in Rods for the UK farkers)


Raw video: Neyland snowball fight  http://t.co/RWlCe4FPYo
GO Vols!
 
2014-02-13 01:14:39 AM  

TOSViolation: Oldiron_79: mr lawson: South Maryville @ 11:50pm ~ 6"
/my house of course
//got 7 more hours of snow to go

My 4.5" report was a hour or 2 ago just measured at 5.25" (135 mm for you euro farkers, not sure what that is in Rods for the UK farkers)

Depends how long your rod is.  I guess you're already well past one rod.


No a rod is a surveying measurement that is 5 1/2 yards long.
 
2014-02-13 01:16:52 AM  

Oldiron_79: TOSViolation: Oldiron_79: mr lawson: South Maryville @ 11:50pm ~ 6"
/my house of course
//got 7 more hours of snow to go

My 4.5" report was a hour or 2 ago just measured at 5.25" (135 mm for you euro farkers, not sure what that is in Rods for the UK farkers)

Depends how long your rod is.  I guess you're already well past one rod.

No a rod is a surveying measurement that is 5 1/2 yards long.


That's not what she said.
 
2014-02-13 01:17:43 AM  

Oldiron_79: TOSViolation: Oldiron_79: mr lawson: South Maryville @ 11:50pm ~ 6"
/my house of course
//got 7 more hours of snow to go

My 4.5" report was a hour or 2 ago just measured at 5.25" (135 mm for you euro farkers, not sure what that is in Rods for the UK farkers)

Depends how long your rod is.  I guess you're already well past one rod.

No a rod is a surveying measurement that is 5 1/2 yards long.


Braggart.
 
2014-02-13 01:17:52 AM  

TOSViolation: Oldiron_79: TOSViolation: Oldiron_79: mr lawson: South Maryville @ 11:50pm ~ 6"
/my house of course
//got 7 more hours of snow to go

My 4.5" report was a hour or 2 ago just measured at 5.25" (135 mm for you euro farkers, not sure what that is in Rods for the UK farkers)

Depends how long your rod is.  I guess you're already well past one rod.

No a rod is a surveying measurement that is 5 1/2 yards long.

That's not what she said.


Well I guess thats because YOUR rod isnt 5 1/2 yards long.
 
2014-02-13 01:20:18 AM  

MrHappyRotter: Semper IvXx:
The funny thing about the RDU area? It's mostly transplanted northerners who insist a little snow is no big deal where they're from. Enjoy your farking 20 mile walk in the snow idiots, but hey you're a total Internet badass because a little snow doesn't stop you from driving.

That's always made me chuckle when people hate on this area.  I'm not even saying the hate is misplaced or unfounded.  But it's usually sprinkled with the not at all subtle bashing of Southerners.  Then, when you start talking to your friends, co-workers and acquaintances, you realize that a large proportion (if not the majority) of people are transplants.


Guess what?  They're Southern by choice, by the grace of God through the intercession of air conditioning.
 
2014-02-13 01:24:39 AM  

Oldiron_79: TOSViolation: Oldiron_79: TOSViolation: Oldiron_79: mr lawson: South Maryville @ 11:50pm ~ 6"
/my house of course
//got 7 more hours of snow to go

My 4.5" report was a hour or 2 ago just measured at 5.25" (135 mm for you euro farkers, not sure what that is in Rods for the UK farkers)

Depends how long your rod is.  I guess you're already well past one rod.

No a rod is a surveying measurement that is 5 1/2 yards long.

That's not what she said.

Well I guess thats because YOUR rod isnt 5 1/2 yards long.


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2014-02-13 01:38:44 AM  

TOSViolation: Oldiron_79: TOSViolation: Oldiron_79: TOSViolation: Oldiron_79: mr lawson: South Maryville @ 11:50pm ~ 6"
/my house of course
//got 7 more hours of snow to go

My 4.5" report was a hour or 2 ago just measured at 5.25" (135 mm for you euro farkers, not sure what that is in Rods for the UK farkers)

Depends how long your rod is.  I guess you're already well past one rod.

No a rod is a surveying measurement that is 5 1/2 yards long.

That's not what she said.

Well I guess thats because YOUR rod isnt 5 1/2 yards long.

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What does a man with a 5 1/2 yard rod do when he comes home?
Kicks off his shoes, undoes his belt, and unwinds.
 
2014-02-13 02:22:57 AM  
(North Jersey Resident)

Yup. It's a state of emergency. I'm staying the fark home from work. Route 80 is going to be a goddamn nightmare.
 
2014-02-13 06:55:14 AM  

PiffMan420: (North Jersey Resident)

Yup. It's a state of emergency. I'm staying the fark home from work. Route 80 is going to be a goddamn nightmare.


North jersey transplamt now in tge hudson valley ny. trekked from Middletown ny to kingston ny this morn. getting home will be fun. kingstons lookin at 20" with rates of up to 3 an hour. cuomo better not close 84 again
 
2014-02-13 08:51:59 AM  
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2014-02-13 09:26:09 AM  

Gleeman: Put a Yankee in a car with all season tires on unsalted/plowed roads and it would be Snowmageddon up there too.


Not really. Try living in Indiana for a few years. Indiana does it's damndest to never plow a thing. Even in Indianapolis, it's second pride and joy after the raceway. I lived there through light snow, heavy snow storms, and an ice storm that coated everything in 3/4 to an inch of ice overnight.

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 I never saw anything that looked remotely as bad as the pictures and videos coming out of the South.

I drove through the barely plowed Indiana roads and freeways through every bad winter weather condition in my low to the ground, front wheel drive, turbocharged, automatic car while using performance orientated all seasons. Hell, at one point I was traveling for work in late January through rural Iowa at night during a heavy snow storm. Everything was white. I could just barely notice street signs and was only able to navigate because my GPS held enough of a signal to give me a rough idea of where I was.

My poor little sporty car was being bounced around by a mix of thick snow and ice chunks so hard my cell phone gained air off my dash more than once. Yet with my low, FF, turbo, slushbox car on all seasons I never ended up in a ditch. I didn't see anyone else spun out or stopped either. There was enough ice where I had to put on my slip on ice cleats in order to not fall once I reached a gas station to take a break and my hotel an hour later.

Yeah, shiatty weather conditions can be dangerous for anyone. But from my experiences in the North people handle it just fine. Even with all seasons. Hell, even now that we have record breaking snowfalls and low temps I still see the occasional BMW/Merc/etc in a parking low rocking full on summer tires. My current winter beater is an auto FR car with an open rear diff and Walmart special tires. I've been just fine.

The sudden bad weather sucks for you guys. No arguments here. Especially when it's equal parts ice and snow. But stop acting like us up here would be just as bad at it as you all down there are. Or is it "ya'll"?

Most people here in the North run all seasons. Seeing someone with actual snow tires is rare. Most people don't keep a second set of wheels and tires.

/No one taught me how to drive in the winter. For the most part I'm a self taught driver, including stick. I don't have problems in the winter.
 
2014-02-13 10:14:58 AM  
It wasn't just people that were the issue on my commute paths... In fact, commuters abandoning vehicles because they were stuck was few and far between on my route.  BUT the biggest snarl was semis getting stuck going up hills. Then you blow a whole damn lane.  Traffic would be a nightmare on these roads on a dry day if that happened.  Some of my routes saw two semis in different lanes flat out stuck.
 
2014-02-13 11:33:49 AM  
A persnickety thing: Raleigh-Durham isn't a city, y'all.  Use 'The Triangle' when referring to the larger metro area.  Yes, Raleigh/Durham is the name of the airport, but that's it.

Also, the weather sucked yesterday.  And today.  But at least today the office is closed, as are the schools, and the town hall, and probably the liquor stores (glad I stocked up yesterday!), and mostly everything else, though I'm not venturing out to recon.  I'll watch it rain and hope that the ginormous half-dead tree in the lot next door can hold up under the coating of ice it got last night. What a mess.
 
2014-02-13 01:43:14 PM  
Raleigh-Durham, jealous of all the winter press Atlanta has gotten, turns interstate into parking lot

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Amateurs!  I didn't even need snow.
 
2014-02-13 01:49:45 PM  
This morning: OMG, it's going to start snowing at noon and we're going to get steady snow all afternoon and evening, looking at 2 - 4 inches of additional accumulation.

A few hours later: Well, it doesn't seem like it's going to be that bad.  Patchy snow and rain expected.  Maybe trace to an inch of snow at best.

When your damned "predictions" are real time observations, then yes, don't be surprised when people don't take you seriously forecasters.  Nobody can plan around that.  Nobody knows what to do or how to react or how to plan.
 
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