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(Jalopnik)   Raleigh-Durham, jealous of all the winter press Atlanta has gotten, turns interstate into parking lot   (jalopnik.com) divider line 178
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2014-02-12 09:00:02 PM  

jj325: I'm supposed to fly out of Minneapolis tomorrow night into Raleigh/Durham. Not really counting on it happening.   Funny that when I booked the flight I was worried about getting out of Minnesota in February, not landing in NC.

/I know.  No one cares


Yeah... farking stuck in NYC, trying to get home from a work trip.  Right now, my flight home for tomorrow is about to get pushed back to Monday... wtf man.
 
2014-02-12 09:02:46 PM  

Ass_Master: orezona: What actual Snowmaggedon looks like:

[scontent-b-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net image 720x960]

Glenwood Ave.

[cdn.abclocal.go.com image 450x600]

If you pull up google maps, load this address, and then use streetview, you can see right where the fire was.

9309 U.S. 70, Raleigh, North Carolina, United States


Is the fire from an accident or something else?
 
2014-02-12 09:04:46 PM  

FizixJunkee: Ass_Master: orezona: What actual Snowmaggedon looks like:

[scontent-b-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net image 720x960]

Glenwood Ave.

[cdn.abclocal.go.com image 450x600]

If you pull up google maps, load this address, and then use streetview, you can see right where the fire was.

9309 U.S. 70, Raleigh, North Carolina, United States

Is the fire from an accident or something else?


They set one on fire intentionally for warmth.
 
2014-02-12 09:05:21 PM  

Ass_Master: orezona: What actual Snowmaggedon looks like:

[scontent-b-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net image 720x960]

Glenwood Ave.

[cdn.abclocal.go.com image 450x600]

If you pull up google maps, load this address, and then use streetview, you can see right where the fire was.

9309 U.S. 70, Raleigh, North Carolina, United States


How does someone set their car on fire like that?  Just revving the engine without traction??
 
2014-02-12 09:06:16 PM  
People from Raleigh doing dumb shiat ?!? Nahhhhh!

/Stay home on snow days.
//Duh.
 
2014-02-12 09:09:14 PM  
Went to the office this morning hoping to get a few things done before running to the store. Got to the grocery store about 10:30, and was rather disappointed to find NO 18-packs of Heineken.  As luck would have it, Stella 12-packs were on sale for $11.99.  This weather, you know.  You have to make do.  On the milk counter I saw 2-3 gallons of something called skim (sp?) and 3 gallons of chocolate milk.  I got the last quart of real moo juice and hit the road for home.  Got 3 tubes of Pringles, too, in case of emergency.  Got home well before the snow started, only to find stupid NBC planned to broadcast the Arse v ManUre snorefest instead of the down to the wire L'Pool battle.  Winter can be H-E-double toothpicks down here, I tell ya what.  More info as the situation develops.
 
2014-02-12 09:17:32 PM  
I'm just outside Atlanta. It was sleeting when I woke up, hasn't really stopped yet. I stayed home all day. Earlier there was one set of tire marks down the street. Looks like he made it, but no one else has gone anywhere.

There is a good 1.5" of ice over everything, maybe .325" of snow on top of that.
 
2014-02-12 09:19:12 PM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: Ass_Master: orezona: What actual Snowmaggedon looks like:

[scontent-b-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net image 720x960]

Glenwood Ave.

[cdn.abclocal.go.com image 450x600]

If you pull up google maps, load this address, and then use streetview, you can see right where the fire was.

9309 U.S. 70, Raleigh, North Carolina, United States

How does someone set their car on fire like that?  Just revving the engine without traction??


My friend once set his Country Squire on fire trying to rock it out of the snow.  The carpet began smoldering and he and his passenger had to start cutting out pieces of the carpet.  So I believe in that case it was the transmission.  He was able to save the car.

Clogged and/or malfunctioning catalytic converters are a similar cause of such fires.
 
2014-02-12 09:21:21 PM  
I tend to stay away from stupid people. So far, its working well for me.
 
2014-02-12 09:21:37 PM  
We've had over 95" of snow this winter in Buffalo NY. Yawn.
 
2014-02-12 09:21:49 PM  

Zarquon's Flat Tire: I'm just outside Atlanta. It was sleeting when I woke up, hasn't really stopped yet. I stayed home all day. Earlier there was one set of tire marks down the street. Looks like he made it, but no one else has gone anywhere.

There is a good 1.5" of ice over everything, maybe .325" of snow on top of that.


I'm in North Decatur.  Sleet started at 4:30 am and actually woke me up.  We only got about 1.5 hours of freezing rain from 9-10:30 and then the rest sleet.  I would estimate there is about 1.5 inches of sleet which as someone noted looks like everything is covered in sno-cone ice.  Now it's just flurries.
 
2014-02-12 09:22:30 PM  

czei: I don't mind staying in, but I have $200 tickets to see a concert in Durham and the Carolina Theater has a strict "no refund" policy, and while my car could make it in a mere 4" of snow, every since road between here and Durham is stopped dead.


Just got a note from Ticketmaster: they canceled tonight's Pat Methany show. Hope they can re-book it.
 
2014-02-12 09:23:35 PM  

czei: But despite the asshats, I think the biggest problem is no one in the RTP buys tires based on how well they handle in the snow.   Tires make a huge difference on traction, and that exacerbates the lack of driving skills.  All the northern transplants from where you get a lot of snow either buy all seasons that can handle snow or swap on snow tires in the winter.  5 or 7 years in the south with no snow means people are choosing tires that can't handle snow since they suck in the summer.


This, this this.  I would be willing to guess that a lot of the abandoned cars sitting out there right now have summer tires.  It makes a HUUUUUUUGE difference.  Even allseasons to true winter tires is a big step.  Summer tires to allseasons would easily be a deciding factor in if you got your car home tonight in Raleigh.

I have allseasons on my Altima in Wisconsin (I want separate summer/winter, but they were like new with the car) and I can get through up to 4-5 inches of snow just fine.  Stopping distance and turning radius increase, but I can still get around.  If had summer tires on right now, my car wouldn't make it out of the alley.

You can drive in this stuff.  If you have the proper equipment.
 
2014-02-12 09:25:28 PM  
That burning car on US 70 is a BMW.
Bank on it.
 
2014-02-12 09:26:16 PM  
I just posted this on Facebook:

Ok, now that I've had a nice long hot bath, a piping hot bowl of clam chowder and several shots of vodka I can relate my tale of getting home.

I should have left work at noon, but it didn't look too bad. Was working hard so I didn't pay attention to the front window until 12:45...the snow was coming down pretty steady and was already sticking to the road. I tried to schedule a FedEx pick up for some viola bows we had rehaired and that our customer wanted back desperately, but FedEx had already stopped pick ups.

I was told that if I took it to the FedExKinko's on Hillsborough St across from NCSU by 2:00 it would go out. My boss said that'd be fine for me to drop it off there and then head on home.

It was 1:00.

Like me he didn't realize how backed up traffic was. It took me an hour to drive 3 blocks.......I said "fark it!", parked my car legally and safely on Hillsborough St in front of St. Mary's School, walked the package back to the shop (would rather my customer's bows be at work than in my car) and I walked home.....all 9 miles.

I outpaced traffic on Glenwood Ave and Creedmoor Rd. I would have gone stir crazy if I had been driving!! Cars were slipping and sliding everywhere! I never got cold because I had dressed for "just in case". I also had a bottle of water, some granola bars, Reese's and GS cookies.

I left the shop at 2:30, got home at 6:40. 9 miles. Now let me put this into perspective: it took me 4 hours to get home walking. I took my time because I didn't want to cramp my calf's walking through the snow drifts or on the slippery packed ice/snow. One of my coworkers lives 3.8 miles away from the shop it took him THREE HOURS to DRIVE home!!!! I would have lost my mind!!

Hell yeah I'm glad I walked home!

Time for more vodak.
 
2014-02-12 09:28:16 PM  

orezona: What actual Snowmaggedon looks like:

[scontent-b-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net image 720x960]

Glenwood Ave.


Da-yum!!!!!
 
2014-02-12 09:29:15 PM  

Delawheredad: You have to excuse southerners. Unless it is involves and oval and left turns good ol' boys just can't drive.


What about tow truck drivers from Colorado? Can they drive in snow?

To quote: "I can only remember one storm in Colorado that caused the absolute glare ice that we saw here during that 30 hour period. I had chains on both rear axels of our largest truck and nearly totaled it while my cable was hooked to a loaded semi 100 feet behind me on a hill on S. Tejon. It was one of the scariest moments of my 14 years driving trucks. I had the best equipment available and nearly destroyed it, the semi I was winching and 10 cars around us. Those conditions are as close to what we have now in Birmingham as I can remember."

And before anyone starts in on the whole "you were all warned" crap... Not so fast. There's a reason why the NWS was screaming "ATLANTA WAS WARNED!" at the top of their lungs to any press that would print it. The forecast for Birmingham, which experienced the exact same problems on the exact same day (and suffered more casualties as a result, I might add) was in fact not correct.

"A statement from the National Weather Service said forecasters realized conditions were changing in central Alabama and issued a public advisory around 9 a.m. CST. Snow began falling around 10 a.m., the weather service said, and a winter storm warning was issued one hour later."
 
2014-02-12 09:30:14 PM  

HotIgneous Intruder: That burning car on US 70 is a BMW.
Bank on it.


I saw one on fire last week in Atlanta and I can believe it.  My 3-series has new all-seasons and it stinks on ice.  I've never driven a worse car in the snow.  I should have opened my trunk and piled snow in there like we used to do with our pickup in Indiana.  It had to drive that farker sideways up a hill.

With the summer tires that are too common down here, I can easily see someone revving it up a hill until it overheats and burns.  It probably doesn't help cooling that the straight-six is so far back from the front of the car that it jams itself into the driver's space.  A 335i turbo would only make it worse.
 
2014-02-12 09:30:47 PM  

Rapmaster2000: Zarquon's Flat Tire: I'm just outside Atlanta. It was sleeting when I woke up, hasn't really stopped yet. I stayed home all day. Earlier there was one set of tire marks down the street. Looks like he made it, but no one else has gone anywhere.

There is a good 1.5" of ice over everything, maybe .325" of snow on top of that.

I'm in North Decatur.  Sleet started at 4:30 am and actually woke me up.  We only got about 1.5 hours of freezing rain from 9-10:30 and then the rest sleet.  I would estimate there is about 1.5 inches of sleet which as someone noted looks like everything is covered in sno-cone ice.  Now it's just flurries.


Conyers, yeah we have that sheath of ice over everything too. Looks like no pears off the tree this year, no idea what this did to the peach crop, but pears are the same genus and the buds were set.
 
2014-02-12 09:31:23 PM  

FizixJunkee: Unobtanium: dumbandilikeit: It took my hubby over 3 hours to go 7 miles. And he's a mechanic so he couldn't really work from home.

Everyone was told that the snow would start at noon.  And it did.  But it stuck to the ground immediately and snowed at about 1" an hour.  Between noon and 4pm had over 6". Roads were even pre-treated.

So lots of people went in for a half day and then everyone left precisely at noon, right when the snow came down hard.

Pretreatment can only do so much. The traffic probably swept most of it away.

Here in Atlanta, I am teleworking. But I am not a mechanic. We prepared as well as we could without buying a generator. Lucky so far.


Atlantan here.  We decided to work from home today, too.  What a weird storm.  We didn't get any real snow here, but we did very fine ice rain (?) that had a very peculiar sound when it was falling (it sounded much softer and hushed than rain...very cool sounding).    The ground is covered in white; it looks like snow, but it isn't.  It's fluffy ice---almost like snow cone ice---that makes a distinctive, soft crunchy noise.

Everything is covered in a shell of ice about 1/2 an inch thick.  Weird.


That's sleet.
 
2014-02-12 09:40:39 PM  

EricTheHalfABee: It was crazy how fast the roads went from completely snow free and simply wet to covered with sticky, accumulating snow. We ran down to the store about a half mile away and during the 15 minutes we were in there, the road conditions changed dramatically.

I think most people are used to it being able to snow for an hour or two before the roads start to show any accumulation (this is what happened yesterday). Most people thought they had plenty of time to get home.


Exactly the situation we had here in Alabama two weeks ago, aside from the fact that ours wasn't predicted until an hour after it started snowing-- and by then, everyone was already on the road. To our credit, we haven't had anything like this happen here since 1982, when it wasn't supposed to start snowing until 6pm and it started at mid-morning instead. Since we had the issues two weeks ago, schools and businesses are back to closing if it looks like it might be cold.
 
2014-02-12 09:41:02 PM  
Hey, NC...

imageshack.com 

Told you farks yesterday to call in sick, say you got the crabs. Dumfarks.
 
2014-02-12 09:44:22 PM  
More than likely it was smartass northerners who went out in the snow saying that "it isn't all that bad" -- forgetting, of course, that there is not an army of plows keeping the roads clear here.
 
2014-02-12 09:45:00 PM  

Rapmaster2000: HotIgneous Intruder: That burning car on US 70 is a BMW.
Bank on it.

I saw one on fire last week in Atlanta and I can believe it.  My 3-series has new all-seasons and it stinks on ice.  I've never driven a worse car in the snow.  I should have opened my trunk and piled snow in there like we used to do with our pickup in Indiana.  It had to drive that farker sideways up a hill.

With the summer tires that are too common down here, I can easily see someone revving it up a hill until it overheats and burns.  It probably doesn't help cooling that the straight-six is so far back from the front of the car that it jams itself into the driver's space.  A 335i turbo would only make it worse.


Subarus aren't just for New Hampshire and lesbians!
 
2014-02-12 09:46:25 PM  
Atlanta (Alpharetta) here... trapped at North Fulton Hospital. Wife just had our first kid. Grateful for the ice, it's preventing family from descending on us. However that also means I'm trapped here with a still hormonal wife and a newborn that has a strong possibility of being mine.
 
2014-02-12 09:48:56 PM  

uncleacid: Four wheel drive doesn't help if everyone in front of you has one wheel drive.


Which is why the state should help out by pushing the stalled vehicles into the ditch where they'll require a $200 tow to get out. Stupid tax.
 
2014-02-12 10:05:12 PM  

trekkiecougar: I should have left work at noon, but it didn't look too bad. Was working hard so I didn't pay attention to the front window until 12:45...the snow was coming down pretty steady and was already sticking to the road. I tried to schedule a FedEx pick up for some viola bows we had rehaired and that our customer wanted back desperately, but FedEx had already stopped pick ups.


Sounds like you work at  Pasewicz :-)
 
2014-02-12 10:08:13 PM  
Well fark last I heard on weather NC and VA are supposed to get 18". Do you know how much 18" is? ( unzips pants)
 
2014-02-12 10:10:32 PM  

Hot Carl To Go: Atlanta (Alpharetta) here... trapped at North Fulton Hospital. Wife just had our first kid. Grateful for the ice, it's preventing family from descending on us. However that also means I'm trapped here with a still hormonal wife and a newborn that has a strong possibility of being mine.


It's not yours. I know.

/seriously though.. congrats!
 
2014-02-12 10:22:51 PM  
My dumb ass went to work in RTP this morning and stuck around too long. I didn't even try to leave the parking lot at work.

Of course, i have food, internet, a PS3, a sleep pod, and a generator, so it's not a big deal.
 
2014-02-12 10:28:36 PM  

MrHappyRotter: czei: I've been sitting at home in Chapel Hill telecommuting most of the day since Dark Sky forecast a 90% chance of heavy snow starting at 12PM.  Can't figure out why people bothered to drive to work, only to flood the streets when it started to snow, insuring a huge traffic jam even if the roads weren't covered with snow.

Because of a lot of us work at places that didn't give employees the option to stay home, or that offered but did so in a way that it was clear that if you did stay home, it was going to affect your next performance review -- after all, everyone else on your team came into work.


As a tech manager, I can give my official opinion that you work for morons.  Why would you want your employees stuck in traffic for hours when they can be home getting something done?  Of course, that only works if you have the kind of job where you can get stuff done at home.   I didn't tell people they had to come in or not, but the ones who did spent hours towing other people out of ditches close to the office.

Local bosses had to know this traffic situation would happen because it just happened to Atlanta, and the same thing happened her the last time it snowed more than 2".
 
2014-02-12 10:33:55 PM  

Hot Carl To Go: Atlanta (Alpharetta) here... trapped at North Fulton Hospital. Wife just had our first kid. Grateful for the ice, it's preventing family from descending on us. However that also means I'm trapped here with a still hormonal wife and a newborn that has a strong possibility of being mine.


My wife was ejected from the hospital in the middle of a hurricane after the birth of our first child. I guess people in New Orleans know how to drive in a hurricane.

We made it home, but it was a hell of a night for brand new parents.
 
2014-02-12 10:34:01 PM  

Oldiron_79: Well fark last I heard on weather NC and VA are supposed to get 18". Do you know how much 18" is? ( unzips pants)


six of those?
 
2014-02-12 10:36:47 PM  

Hobodeluxe: Oldiron_79: Well fark last I heard on weather NC and VA are supposed to get 18". Do you know how much 18" is? ( unzips pants)

six of those?


Yeah about 6 times the diameter
 
2014-02-12 10:39:34 PM  

cmunic8r99: My dumb ass went to work in RTP this morning and stuck around too long. I didn't even try to leave the parking lot at work.

Of course, i have food, internet, a PS3, a sleep pod, and a generator, so it's not a big deal.


What does a sleep pod look like?
 
2014-02-12 10:39:56 PM  

just_intonation: When it snows as much in RDU as it did in January of '99 2000, then I'll be impressed.

/flew in on Monday afternoon
//Tuesday morning there was 23" of snow on the ground
///Stuck in the damn Hilton Garden RDU for three days
///csb
/slashies


January of 2000
 
2014-02-12 10:42:50 PM  

BalugaJoe: cmunic8r99: My dumb ass went to work in RTP this morning and stuck around too long. I didn't even try to leave the parking lot at work.

Of course, i have food, internet, a PS3, a sleep pod, and a generator, so it's not a big deal.

What does a sleep pod look like?


http://www.metronaps.com
 
2014-02-12 10:46:21 PM  
mr lawson:

It's not yours. I know.

/seriously though.. congrats!


Thanks! Definitely springing for the DNA test. I'll head to the nurses' station in a few and try to convince them that I need help getting a sample.

Huskadoodle:

My wife was ejected from the hospital in the middle of a hurricane after the birth of our first child. I guess people in New Orleans know how to drive in a hurricane.

We made it home, but it was a hell of a night for brand new parents.


Dude... glad nothing happened on the way. That is crazy.
 
2014-02-12 10:46:30 PM  

yakmans_dad: Around 15 years ago, there was a terrible ice storm here the same night as an event we had secured tickets for a couple of months previously. I suggested we give it a pass but was out voted. [You married men will know what I mean.] As we came onto the interstate, through a rock cut, there was an automobile on the shoulder of the road, nose downward and car trunk in the air. I hope I've described that so you can marvel at it, too. Almost all of the momentum at that point should have taken the car to the opposite side of the road, onto the median.

Ice on roads is a terrible danger. Stay off it.


There was a really bad ice storm January of '96 or '97. About five inches of ice. Covered the whole southeast, I was driving back to college after winter break. Did a 360 on I-85 in downtown Atlanta on black ice. Terrifying drive.

/got the whole week off of school
//couldn't get to class but could get to bar
///drunk+ice=bruises
 
2014-02-12 10:50:40 PM  

Nick Nostril: Hey, NC...

[imageshack.com image 510x510] 

Told you farks yesterday to call in sick, say you got the crabs. Dumfarks.


Unfortunately, try as we might, we can't keep idiot Yankees from moving down here.
 
2014-02-12 10:50:43 PM  

detroitdoesntsuckthatbad: orezona: What actual Snowmaggedon looks like:

[scontent-b-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net image 720x960]

Glenwood Ave.

Holy shiat? Where is that on Glenwood, up by Crabtree?

/used to live in Cameron Village
//miss Foundation's awesome recession Sunday drink menu


OMG, used to live near Cameron Village.  Went to Broughton High School.  Early 70s, so it was a very sleepy place at the time.
 
2014-02-12 10:55:07 PM  

czei: Not to miss out on the fun I did venture forth in my 4WD rally car intending on finding a remote parking lot, but only narrowly missed getting hit by three SUVs in a row running a stop sign, and then immediately got stuck in a line of cars that couldn't make it up a 1% grade.


What kind of car is it?

I have an old 4wd turbo celica that I'm hoping to get completely fixed up someday as my toy.
 
2014-02-12 10:56:56 PM  

czei: trekkiecougar: I should have left work at noon, but it didn't look too bad. Was working hard so I didn't pay attention to the front window until 12:45...the snow was coming down pretty steady and was already sticking to the road. I tried to schedule a FedEx pick up for some viola bows we had rehaired and that our customer wanted back desperately, but FedEx had already stopped pick ups.

Sounds like you work at  Pasewicz :-)


Nope, have been John Montgomery's secretary/bookkeeper for going on 21 years :)!
 
2014-02-12 10:58:08 PM  

Deep Contact: We've had over 95" of snow this winter in Buffalo NY. Yawn.


FWIW, we have a metric shiat-ton more bad weather equipment and experience than they have down there. Imagine driving the 33 minus the salt and snowplows.
 
2014-02-12 11:01:56 PM  
Just realized I spelled "calves" wrong in my original post.......nite nite time for me!

/ok Sexy, I'm getting off of the computer now
 
2014-02-12 11:08:50 PM  
Huntsville AL area here.

We've got 2-4" of snow on the road right outside my house (and it rained all day, so who knows how much ice under that) and it's supposed to keep precipitating and remain below freezing until 5-7 am tomorrow. Not even gonna bother setting the alarm. Pretty sure they'll close Redstone Arsenal again.

It was good that so many business closed on Tues and are closing or opening late tomorrow. Sadly, my skank-ass employer doesn't give a fark about us and didn't/won't be sending out any sort of "don't come in" email. Freaking Burger King cares more for their employees and that's just sad.
 
2014-02-12 11:11:35 PM  

kitsuneymg: Huntsville AL area here.

We've got 2-4" of snow on the road right outside my house (and it rained all day, so who knows how much ice under that) and it's supposed to keep precipitating and remain below freezing until 5-7 am tomorrow. Not even gonna bother setting the alarm. Pretty sure they'll close Redstone Arsenal again.

It was good that so many business closed on Tues and are closing or opening late tomorrow. Sadly, my skank-ass employer doesn't give a fark about us and didn't/won't be sending out any sort of "don't come in" email. Freaking Burger King cares more for their employees and that's just sad.


Here in Knoxville we have about 4.5" on the ground already and still coming down, 8" expected
 
2014-02-12 11:18:30 PM  
Speaking of inaccurate forecasts...

A day or two ago, the forecasts were all saying we'd get trace amounts up to 1 inch of accumulation in the form of snow, sleet and/or freezing rain.

This morning I was seeing predictions for 1" - 2" of snow and sleet.

When I got home today, predictions were for 2" - 4" total.

A few minutes ago, I saw that we've gotten 5" - 7" of snow & sleet.  And it's not over, sleet and freezing rain are still falling.

I completely understand that weather prediction is unreliable and an inexact science.  But, when the predictions are so inaccurate, and ironically unpredictable, people as a whole do tend to stop treating them so seriously.  When your TV and radio meteorologists are "predicting" the weather as it happens, during a work week when people are working, then yes, don't be surprised when the warnings of sudden and severe hazardous conditions don't make it out to the populous.
 
2014-02-12 11:26:05 PM  
And I just peeked outside.  The ice is really starting to build up on the tree limbs.  There aren't really any power lines visible without me taking a walk, which I may do shortly, but it's definitely beginning to look like we could be approaching that threatening 1/4" ice accumulation point, where damage starts to become widespread, if the precipitation continues through the night.
 
2014-02-12 11:26:12 PM  

Oldiron_79: Here in Knoxville we have about 4.5" on the ground already and still coming down, 8" expected


howdy neighbor!
here in Maryville, I have a solid 6" on ground
(just checked a couple min ago)
 
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