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2014-02-12 05:36:12 PM  
It's God's retaliation for the way the right wink un-Jesus republicans are running the state.
 
2014-02-12 05:37:18 PM  
Right wing, as in bird.
 
2014-02-12 05:40:12 PM  
You have to excuse southerners. Unless it is involves and oval and left turns good ol' boys just can't drive.
 
2014-02-12 05:50:14 PM  
with a windchill of 12 degrees

Ummmm... yeahhhhh...  Wind chill here today is -40.  It's the same in Centigrade or Fahrenheit and it's damn cold.  12F is -11C - that's getting close to shirtsleeve weather in a Northern Alberta winter.
 
2014-02-12 05:51:37 PM  
It took my hubby over 3 hours to go 7 miles. And he's a mechanic so he couldn't really work from home.

Everyone was told that the snow would start at noon.  And it did.  But it stuck to the ground immediately and snowed at about 1" an hour.  Between noon and 4pm had over 6". Roads were even pre-treated.

So lots of people went in for a half day and then everyone left precisely at noon, right when the snow came down hard.
 
2014-02-12 06:06:31 PM  

dumbandilikeit: It took my hubby over 3 hours to go 7 miles. And he's a mechanic so he couldn't really work from home.

Everyone was told that the snow would start at noon.  And it did.  But it stuck to the ground immediately and snowed at about 1" an hour.  Between noon and 4pm had over 6". Roads were even pre-treated.

So lots of people went in for a half day and then everyone left precisely at noon, right when the snow came down hard.


Pretreatment can only do so much. The traffic probably swept most of it away.

Here in Atlanta, I am teleworking. But I am not a mechanic. We prepared as well as we could without buying a generator. Lucky so far.
 
2014-02-12 06:43:38 PM  
obama's fault, no question.
 
2014-02-12 06:45:43 PM  

dumbandilikeit: It took my hubby over 3 hours to go 7 miles. And he's a mechanic so he couldn't really work from home.

Everyone was told that the snow would start at noon.  And it did.  But it stuck to the ground immediately and snowed at about 1" an hour.  Between noon and 4pm had over 6". Roads were even pre-treated.

So lots of people went in for a half day and then everyone left precisely at noon, right when the snow came down hard.


A real man would've walked barefoot both ways and carried his tool box with him, stopping along the way to help others.
 
2014-02-12 06:46:02 PM  
When it snows as much in RDU as it did in January of '99, then I'll be impressed.

/flew in on Monday afternoon
//Tuesday morning there was 23" of snow on the ground
///Stuck in the damn Hilton Garden RDU for three days
///csb
/slashies
 
2014-02-12 06:46:58 PM  

DrSansabeltNoShiatSlacks: obama's fault, no question.


img.fark.net
 
2014-02-12 06:48:24 PM  
Everybody hurts.
 
2014-02-12 06:51:41 PM  
I've been sitting at home in Chapel Hill telecommuting most of the day since Dark Sky forecast a 90% chance of heavy snow starting at 12PM.  Can't figure out why people bothered to drive to work, only to flood the streets when it started to snow, insuring a huge traffic jam even if the roads weren't covered with snow.

Not to miss out on the fun I did venture forth in my 4WD rally car intending on finding a remote parking lot, but only narrowly missed getting hit by three SUVs in a row running a stop sign, and then immediately got stuck in a line of cars that couldn't make it up a 1% grade.

I don't mind staying in, but I have $200 tickets to see a concert in Durham and the Carolina Theater has a strict "no refund" policy, and while my car could make it in a mere 4" of snow, every since road between here and Durham is stopped dead.
 
2014-02-12 06:52:22 PM  
Having one of the coldest winters in years, and thinking of all of the times that I hear about 75 degree weather when it is below freezing in the midwest, the south will have to learn to suck this one up.
 
2014-02-12 06:52:48 PM  
FTA: but with a windchill of 12 degrees, staying in the car if you're stuck is hardly a desirable alternative

Umm...if you are stalled in a car and it is dangerously cold (not saying that 12 with windchill is terribly cold, but probably feels that way for some...) then staying in your car is the EXACT thing you want to do...


Of course, you could wander around the roads dodging sliding cars and fighting frost bite. But maybe there is a Waffle House nearby, so the wandering is kept to a minimum...
 
2014-02-12 06:53:02 PM  
Terrible weather here, too. Sunny, with a high of 75. Light breeze. THE HORRORS!!
 
2014-02-12 06:53:42 PM  
Yep.  The roads in my area are lined with abandoned cars.  We're talking dozens of cars.  Most of them have been moved to the side of the roads, the shoulders, or the sidewalks.

I left work within 20 minutes of the snow starting.  It went from a few flakes to all out hazard in that time.  When I left, you could not see the lane marks on the roads.  Several of the major roads were at complete gridlock due to stupid driving, disabled vehicles and fender benders.

30 minutes after the snow started, I watched people get stuck in the middle of the road, give up, get out of their cars and walk away.  And while the traffic has improved, now that hopefully most people are where they're going to stay for the night, the precipitation has turned into sleet and freezing rain.

A short while ago, I watch a neighbor pull into the parking lot, completely lose control of their SUV, and start spinning around the corner of the building.
 
2014-02-12 06:54:39 PM  
I live in Pinehurst. The National Guard is currently out rescuing people stranded on US 1. A mile down the road from my house, someone I went to high school with was killed when the car she was riding in jumped a curve and slammed into a tree. Sucks down here.
/csb
//sad times
///we've had worse though
 
2014-02-12 06:54:39 PM  
Duke sucks.
 
2014-02-12 06:55:22 PM  
It started snowing around 1 here in North Raleigh and came down about as quick as I can remember.  I think it's switched to sleet now and is supposed to turn to ice overnight.  I don't have to work until Friday night and I'm sure the roads will be fine by then but I worry about coming home early on Saturday.
 
2014-02-12 06:56:13 PM  
I'm supposed to fly out of Minneapolis tomorrow night into Raleigh/Durham. Not really counting on it happening.   Funny that when I booked the flight I was worried about getting out of Minnesota in February, not landing in NC.

/I know.  No one cares
 
2014-02-12 06:56:14 PM  

DrSansabeltNoShiatSlacks: obama's fault, no question.


tea baggers and deniers fault, no question.
 
2014-02-12 06:56:16 PM  

czei: I've been sitting at home in Chapel Hill telecommuting most of the day since Dark Sky forecast a 90% chance of heavy snow starting at 12PM.  Can't figure out why people bothered to drive to work, only to flood the streets when it started to snow, insuring a huge traffic jam even if the roads weren't covered with snow.


Because of a lot of us work at places that didn't give employees the option to stay home, or that offered but did so in a way that it was clear that if you did stay home, it was going to affect your next performance review -- after all, everyone else on your team came into work.
 
2014-02-12 06:57:04 PM  
I have family there. I hope everyone is safe and cozy.
 
2014-02-12 06:57:09 PM  

MrHappyRotter: Yep.  The roads in my area are lined with abandoned cars.  We're talking dozens of cars.  Most of them have been moved to the side of the roads, the shoulders, or the sidewalks.

I left work within 20 minutes of the snow starting.  It went from a few flakes to all out hazard in that time.  When I left, you could not see the lane marks on the roads.  Several of the major roads were at complete gridlock due to stupid driving, disabled vehicles and fender benders.

30 minutes after the snow started, I watched people get stuck in the middle of the road, give up, get out of their cars and walk away.  And while the traffic has improved, now that hopefully most people are where they're going to stay for the night, the precipitation has turned into sleet and freezing rain.

A short while ago, I watch a neighbor pull into the parking lot, completely lose control of their SUV, and start spinning around the corner of the building.


A modern, 4WD Urban Assault Vehicle should be able to handle 4 or 5 inches snow providing the driver isn't an idiot.
 
2014-02-12 06:58:08 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: with a windchill of 12 degrees

Ummmm... yeahhhhh...  Wind chill here today is -40.  It's the same in Centigrade or Fahrenheit and it's damn cold.  12F is -11C - that's getting close to shirtsleeve weather in a Northern Alberta winter.


Yes because all those farking people were stuck because it was cold.

What is it today with Fark? Herpa derpa southerners can't drive in a little snow lolllll!!! It's icy, jackasses. Dangerously so, no one should be driving and no one (yes not even you guy who says "I'm good at driving in the snow durr") can drive on it safely. The highways are full of idiots like you who thought "oh I can handle a little cold and snow" and now their dumbasses are abandoning their cars on the farking interstate.

The funny thing about the RDU area? It's mostly transplanted northerners who insist a little snow is no big deal where they're from. Enjoy your farking 20 mile walk in the snow idiots, but hey you're a total Internet badass because a little snow doesn't stop you from driving.

/it wasn't even cold during the day, but it still snowed about 8 inches and now it's got a nice slick sheet of about a 1/4 inch of ice right on top of it, with more over night
//yes, I know you could drive on it because you're extra special living someplace cold, ice doesn't affect your car the way it does those stupid southerners
 
2014-02-12 06:59:11 PM  

jj325: I'm supposed to fly out of Minneapolis tomorrow night into Raleigh/Durham. Not really counting on it happening.   Funny that when I booked the flight I was worried about getting out of Minnesota in February, not landing in NC.

/I know.  No one cares


Not true.  We all care.  We are caring people here at fark.  everyone knows that.
 
2014-02-12 07:00:13 PM  
The Dukes of Blizzard.
 
2014-02-12 07:00:42 PM  

MFAWG: MrHappyRotter: A modern, 4WD Urban Assault Vehicle should be able to handle 4 or 5 inches snow providing the driver isn't an idiot.


A lot of people think that.  And somehow that seems to embolden them as they spin around, out of control, on the solid sheet of ice covering the roads.
 
2014-02-12 07:01:30 PM  
Finally, Fayettestan and Fortress Bragg got it right.   Everything gov'mint was closed today.

/but stuck in hotel
//TDY for Deutschland
///cabin fever sucks
 
2014-02-12 07:02:08 PM  
I really think they should have got the bread and milk before hand...
 
2014-02-12 07:04:06 PM  
Semper IvXx:
The funny thing about the RDU area? It's mostly transplanted northerners who insist a little snow is no big deal where they're from. Enjoy your farking 20 mile walk in the snow idiots, but hey you're a total Internet badass because a little snow doesn't stop you from driving.

That's always made me chuckle when people hate on this area.  I'm not even saying the hate is misplaced or unfounded.  But it's usually sprinkled with the not at all subtle bashing of Southerners.  Then, when you start talking to your friends, co-workers and acquaintances, you realize that a large proportion (if not the majority) of people are transplants.
 
2014-02-12 07:04:24 PM  

MassAsster: I really think they should have got the bread and milk before hand...


Screw that, they should have stocked up on booze and smokes.
 
2014-02-12 07:05:45 PM  
12 degrees!?  Pfft.  The weather where I live is indescribably awful on a regular basis.  I don't understand why anyone even chooses to live in the barren wastelands in which I inhabit, but I was born here and I've accepted my fate of mediocrity.

Suck it, better places.
 
2014-02-12 07:06:43 PM  
I was in this madness today.  16 miles in 5 hours!  I really wasn't that bad...except for the drivers.  The usual 4X4 enthusiasts with an invincibility complex piled up on the shoulders.

However, some of the 'Fast & Furious' fans abandoned their cars and walked since they could get zero traction.  That was priceless.
 
2014-02-12 07:09:06 PM  
Well - the headline should say "AGAIN" = RDU started the whole "total area gridlock" thing back in 2005.  Again today.  In 2005 I found some back ways to get home and made it without incident.  Today there was NOTHING that was not driveable in a honda accord, but there were hudreds of idiots doing things like gridlocking intersections because you never know if the light will turn green again, spinning their tires into oblivion after stopping on uphill grades, and driving pickup trucks in general.  15 metric assloads of fail out there today, and it took me 5 hours to get home a 13 mile commute.  Again, nothing not driveable, just failures behind the wheel.
 
2014-02-12 07:09:48 PM  
Four wheel drive doesn't help if everyone in front of you has one wheel drive.
 
2014-02-12 07:12:22 PM  

dumbandilikeit: It took my hubby over 3 hours to go 7 miles. And he's a mechanic so he couldn't really work from home.

Everyone was told that the snow would start at noon.  And it did.  But it stuck to the ground immediately and snowed at about 1" an hour.  Between noon and 4pm had over 6". Roads were even pre-treated.

So lots of people went in for a half day and then everyone left precisely at noon, right when the snow came down hard.


They keep talking about having a half-day up here in New England for tomorrow. If they do that, I'm calling out of work and staying home precisely for that reason.
 
2014-02-12 07:12:29 PM  
I only wish I'd have picked up some beer when I went grocery shopping this weekend.  After my harrowing trip home from work, I could use a drink.

It might've calmed my nerves and also helped me to process this observation: There were a proportionately high number of SUVs and Lexuses abandoned on the side of the road.  Any theories?  Is there something about a Lexus or Lexus driver that makes them more prone to getting stuck in these kinds of conditions?  What about SUVs?  Something about the high center of mass and/or over confidence such vehicles impart on drivers?
 
2014-02-12 07:12:53 PM  

EasyWind: I was in this madness today.  16 miles in 5 hours!  I really wasn't that bad...except for the drivers.  The usual 4X4 enthusiasts with an invincibility complex piled up on the shoulders.

However, some of the 'Fast & Furious' fans abandoned their cars and walked since they could get zero traction.  That was priceless.


5 hours!?  Pfft.  I once drove a Ford Escort through 8 feet of snow to pick up a twelve pack of Michelob - the working-class man's high-class beer.  I could have driven that in 30 minutes tops playing REO Speedwagon on repeat.  #RidingTheStormOut #ChampaignRepresent
 
2014-02-12 07:14:40 PM  

czei: I've been sitting at home in Chapel Hill telecommuting most of the day since Dark Sky forecast a 90% chance of heavy snow starting at 12PM.  Can't figure out why people bothered to drive to work, only to flood the streets when it started to snow, insuring a huge traffic jam even if the roads weren't covered with snow.

Not to miss out on the fun I did venture forth in my 4WD rally car intending on finding a remote parking lot, but only narrowly missed getting hit by three SUVs in a row running a stop sign, and then immediately got stuck in a line of cars that couldn't make it up a 1% grade.

I don't mind staying in, but I have $200 tickets to see a concert in Durham and the Carolina Theater has a strict "no refund" policy, and while my car could make it in a mere 4" of snow, every since road between here and Durham is stopped dead.


Were you able to make it to the gym earlier? I know you didn't have much time to spare.
 
2014-02-12 07:15:28 PM  
It was crazy how fast the roads went from completely snow free and simply wet to covered with sticky, accumulating snow. We ran down to the store about a half mile away and during the 15 minutes we were in there, the road conditions changed dramatically.

I think most people are used to it being able to snow for an hour or two before the roads start to show any accumulation (this is what happened yesterday). Most people thought they had plenty of time to get home.
 
2014-02-12 07:15:39 PM  
It's not that southerners can't drive in the weather. It's the fact that they all think they can beat the weather by going home early all at the same time, as it starts snowing.
 
2014-02-12 07:19:09 PM  
www.quickmeme.com
 
2014-02-12 07:19:41 PM  

res_nihil: It started snowing around 1 here in North Raleigh and came down about as quick as I can remember.  I think it's switched to sleet now and is supposed to turn to ice overnight.  I don't have to work until Friday night and I'm sure the roads will be fine by then but I worry about coming home early on Saturday.


Yeah, I left from near Crabtree around 12:30 and it took me an hour and a half to go 20 miles.  It was a slow, nerve-wracking commute with several near-skids.  Not fun at all.
 
2014-02-12 07:21:38 PM  

MrHappyRotter: MFAWG: MrHappyRotter: A modern, 4WD Urban Assault Vehicle should be able to handle 4 or 5 inches snow providing the driver isn't an idiot.

A lot of people think that.  And somehow that seems to embolden them as they spin around, out of control, on the solid sheet of ice covering the roads.


Snow != Ice.

Even us dumbass Southerners know that.
 
2014-02-12 07:21:48 PM  

MrHappyRotter: czei: I've been sitting at home in Chapel Hill telecommuting most of the day since Dark Sky forecast a 90% chance of heavy snow starting at 12PM.  Can't figure out why people bothered to drive to work, only to flood the streets when it started to snow, insuring a huge traffic jam even if the roads weren't covered with snow.

Because of a lot of us work at places that didn't give employees the option to stay home, or that offered but did so in a way that it was clear that if you did stay home, it was going to affect your next performance review -- after all, everyone else on your team came into work.


My office didn't close until 1 - took me 2 hours to go 13 miles.  I just bought my car yesterday and we got home (finally) safely after dodging folks who were spinning everywhere.  Do the others all have bald tires?  Is my new car a super hero?!  Why did I buy a new car yesterday knowing this was coming?  I have no answers to these questions, just kind of sounded like a batman thing...
 
2014-02-12 07:22:07 PM  
Can someone explain why staying in a warm car is worse than walking home in a storm? Maybe I've been doing it wrong all these years. Again, there was a lot of warning about this storm.
 
2014-02-12 07:22:30 PM  
 
2014-02-12 07:29:48 PM  
I'm a fairly recent transplant to Charlotte, NC.  What I noticed today....

1. The Poors drive shiatty cars with bald tires while talking on their phones (presumably telling someone how slick the roads are)(Because shiatty cars with bald tires are fine when it's dry).
2. There is zero attempt at clearing roads.  No plows, sand trucks, etc.  We have to wait for it to melt.
3. At the first sign of anything wet, people immediately slow to 10mph, turn on their hazards, and brake constantly.
4. Any snow that falls before 3pm will melt.  Anything that melts will freeze as soon as it gets dark.
5. I didn't see anyone driving to fast.  Everyone was driving too slow. I had to leave a football field length between me and the car in front of me so my truck could get momentum on hills.
6. fark snow.
 
2014-02-12 07:30:10 PM  
What actual Snowmaggedon looks like:

scontent-b-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net

Glenwood Ave.
 
2014-02-12 07:31:04 PM  

ChrisDe: Can someone explain why staying in a warm car is worse than walking home in a storm? Maybe I've been doing it wrong all these years. Again, there was a lot of warning about this storm.


Because your car will eventually run out of gas and become an obstacle in the middle of a road?
 
2014-02-12 07:31:49 PM  

MrHappyRotter: MFAWG: MrHappyRotter: A modern, 4WD Urban Assault Vehicle should be able to handle 4 or 5 inches snow providing the driver isn't an idiot.

A lot of people think that.  And somehow that seems to embolden them as they spin around, out of control, on the solid sheet of ice covering the roads.


The last time it snowed here I was a passenger in one such 4WD vehicle, and the driver was complaining about how people were driving too slowly in the snow while turning left through an intersection, and as he sped up to pass his car spun helplessly in a 270.

But despite the asshats, I think the biggest problem is no one in the RTP buys tires based on how well they handle in the snow.  Tires make a huge difference on traction, and that exacerbates the lack of driving skills.  All the northern transplants from where you get a lot of snow either buy all seasons that can handle snow or swap on snow tires in the winter.  5 or 7 years in the south with no snow means people are choosing tires that can't handle snow since they suck in the summer.
 
2014-02-12 07:32:59 PM  

mosten: The Poors drive shiatty cars with bald tires while talking on their phones


As opposed to the "Poors" everywhere else, where they drive BMWs with new tires?
 
2014-02-12 07:33:20 PM  

mosten: I had to leave a football field length between me and the car in front of me so my truck could get momentum on hills.


You sound like a poor.
 
2014-02-12 07:33:45 PM  

ChrisDe: Can someone explain why staying in a warm car is worse than walking home in a storm? Maybe I've been doing it wrong all these years. Again, there was a lot of warning about this storm.


Because if your car hasn't moved in four hours, and isn't going to, a little walk outside ain't gonna kill ya.

/don't look at me, 80s this weekend here
 
2014-02-12 07:34:29 PM  

MrHappyRotter: I only wish I'd have picked up some beer when I went grocery shopping this weekend.  After my harrowing trip home from work, I could use a drink.

It might've calmed my nerves and also helped me to process this observation: There were a proportionately high number of SUVs and Lexuses abandoned on the side of the road.  Any theories?  Is there something about a Lexus or Lexus driver that makes them more prone to getting stuck in these kinds of conditions?  What about SUVs?  Something about the high center of mass and/or over confidence such vehicles impart on drivers?


Don't have a definitive answer for you, but we see it every November up here in Anchorage when the first *real* winter storm comes in.  SUV's with "true 4WD" (lockable hubs, either manual or automatic) that are driven in a reasonable manner have no issues at all, while the Urban Assault Vehicles (with AWD) can't seem to find traction to save their lives.  Normally see 2 or 3 on their roofs in just my short 6 mile commute.

But it can't be the AWD itself as the issue, because small cars like Subarus or the Mitsubishi Evo do even better than most.  So I'm gonna pull some figures from the Direclyoutamybutt Institute and say it is 49.6% the top heavy all wheel drive commando vehicles design issues and 50.4% the people who drive said vehicles.
 
2014-02-12 07:38:40 PM  

mosten: I'm a fairly recent transplant to Charlotte, NC.  What I noticed today....

1. The Poors drive shiatty cars with bald tires while talking on their phones (presumably telling someone how slick the roads are)(Because shiatty cars with bald tires are fine when it's dry).
2. There is zero attempt at clearing roads.  No plows, sand trucks, etc.  We have to wait for it to melt.
3. At the first sign of anything wet, people immediately slow to 10mph, turn on their hazards, and brake constantly.
4. Any snow that falls before 3pm will melt.  Anything that melts will freeze as soon as it gets dark.
5. I didn't see anyone driving to fast.  Everyone was driving too slow. I had to leave a football field length between me and the car in front of me so my truck could get momentum on hills.
6. fark snow.


Highway plow trucks have a nose plow that is as wide as a single lane, add in a wing plow  and you will never get through traffic like that cleaning the roads, especially with all the people from point 1 on the roads.

Sand cant be put down if it is snowing and blowing, that just increases the amount of snow that sticks to the road.  Sodium would work though.

Source: I drive highway plow trucks for a provincial government in Canada
 
2014-02-12 07:38:49 PM  
They hate Jews over there.
 
2014-02-12 07:39:44 PM  
WRAL is reporting 150 plus traffic accidents in Durham alone. The ER at Duke Hospital had to put mass casualty triage into effect.

And don't let the Yankees gloat about it, >1" of snow per hour (we were exceeding that for a couple hours this afternoon) and we didn't go out unless we had to. Over 6" of snow and school would get delayed until the plows did their thing, or just cancelled if it was real nasty. Put a Yankee in a car with all season tires on unsalted/plowed roads and it would be Snowmageddon up there too.
 
2014-02-12 07:39:51 PM  

LessO2: ChrisDe: Can someone explain why staying in a warm car is worse than walking home in a storm? Maybe I've been doing it wrong all these years. Again, there was a lot of warning about this storm.

Because your car will eventually run out of gas and become an obstacle in the middle of a road?


When it gets really cold here(Chicago), I keep the car at a min or 3/4 of a tank, no matter how much it breaks me
 
2014-02-12 07:40:58 PM  

bohica: Well - the headline should say "AGAIN" = RDU started the whole "total area gridlock" thing back in 2005.  Again today.  In 2005 I found some back ways to get home and made it without incident.  Today there was NOTHING that was not driveable in a honda accord, but there were hudreds of idiots doing things like gridlocking intersections because you never know if the light will turn green again, spinning their tires into oblivion after stopping on uphill grades, and driving pickup trucks in general.  15 metric assloads of fail out there today, and it took me 5 hours to get home a 13 mile commute.  Again, nothing not driveable, just failures behind the wheel.


Nuh uh.  It's 'cause snowstorms are magic and shiat in the South.  It's Jeebus trying to test them again and stuff.  It couldn't possibly be due to the fact that these people are just imbeciles.

Congrats to Raleigh.  You've managed to make Atlanta look less stupid.
 
2014-02-12 07:43:04 PM  
They pay kids to smoke crack.
 
2014-02-12 07:43:45 PM  

drjekel_mrhyde: LessO2: ChrisDe: Can someone explain why staying in a warm car is worse than walking home in a storm? Maybe I've been doing it wrong all these years. Again, there was a lot of warning about this storm.

Because your car will eventually run out of gas and become an obstacle in the middle of a road?

When it gets really cold here(Chicago), I keep the car at a min or 3/4 of a tank, no matter how much it breaks me


Local lore says that this is a good idea not only in case you get stranded in traffic for a few hours, but keeping your fuel tank above 1/2 full when the temperature drops below 20 degrees is supposed to prevent water condensation in said tank.

Well, that's the claim.  27 winters and I haven't personally had car problems that stemmed from "condensation in the fuel tank."

/but it can't hurt...
 
2014-02-12 07:48:41 PM  
This may have been covered already, but I thought the last southerner in the RDU area moved out in the late 80's.
 
2014-02-12 07:50:17 PM  
Just be careful about how much snow is falling.

During the Oct Blizzard in Colorado several years back, a lot of people died on the highways running their engines to keep warm because snow blocked their exhaust pipes and they died of carbon Monoxide poisoning.
 
2014-02-12 07:51:03 PM  

czei: I've been sitting at home in Chapel Hill telecommuting most of the day since Dark Sky forecast a 90% chance of heavy snow starting at 12PM.  Can't figure out why people bothered to drive to work, only to flood the streets when it started to snow, insuring a huge traffic jam even if the roads weren't covered with snow.

Not to miss out on the fun I did venture forth in my 4WD rally car intending on finding a remote parking lot, but only narrowly missed getting hit by three SUVs in a row running a stop sign, and then immediately got stuck in a line of cars that couldn't make it up a 1% grade.

I don't mind staying in, but I have $200 tickets to see a concert in Durham and the Carolina Theater has a strict "no refund" policy, and while my car could make it in a mere 4" of snow, every since road between here and Durham is stopped dead.


http://www.carolinatheatre.org/events/canceled-pat-metheny
They canceled the shows and are offering refunds btw.
 
2014-02-12 07:52:58 PM  

doyner: Everybody hurts.


sometimes.
 
2014-02-12 08:02:55 PM  

orezona: What actual Snowmaggedon looks like:

[scontent-b-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net image 720x960]

Glenwood Ave.




Holy shiat? Where is that on Glenwood, up by Crabtree?

/used to live in Cameron Village
//miss Foundation's awesome recession Sunday drink menu
 
2014-02-12 08:03:54 PM  

brokenslide: FTA: but with a windchill of 12 degrees, staying in the car if you're stuck is hardly a desirable alternative

Umm...if you are stalled in a car and it is dangerously cold (not saying that 12 with windchill is terribly cold, but probably feels that way for some...) then staying in your car is the EXACT thing you want to do...


Of course, you could wander around the roads dodging sliding cars and fighting frost bite. But maybe there is a Waffle House nearby, so the wandering is kept to a minimum...


Yup. There's no windchill in a car. The reporter is simply an idiot.
 
2014-02-12 08:04:37 PM  

Semper IvXx: Benevolent Misanthrope: with a windchill of 12 degrees

Ummmm... yeahhhhh...  Wind chill here today is -40.  It's the same in Centigrade or Fahrenheit and it's damn cold.  12F is -11C - that's getting close to shirtsleeve weather in a Northern Alberta winter.

Yes because all those farking people were stuck because it was cold.

What is it today with Fark? Herpa derpa southerners can't drive in a little snow lolllll!!! It's icy, jackasses. Dangerously so, no one should be driving and no one (yes not even you guy who says "I'm good at driving in the snow durr") can drive on it safely. The highways are full of idiots like you who thought "oh I can handle a little cold and snow" and now their dumbasses are abandoning their cars on the farking interstate.

The funny thing about the RDU area? It's mostly transplanted northerners who insist a little snow is no big deal where they're from. Enjoy your farking 20 mile walk in the snow idiots, but hey you're a total Internet badass because a little snow doesn't stop you from driving.

/it wasn't even cold during the day, but it still snowed about 8 inches and now it's got a nice slick sheet of about a 1/4 inch of ice right on top of it, with more over night
//yes, I know you could drive on it because you're extra special living someplace cold, ice doesn't affect your car the way it does those stupid southerners


I never said that's why they were stuck, asshole. I was mocking the dramatic tone of the article over an above-zero wind chill.

Now Fark off.
 
2014-02-12 08:04:42 PM  

BalugaJoe: They hate Jews over there.


Ummm..
 
2014-02-12 08:05:27 PM  
Sounds better than Atlanta 2 weeks ago.  A coworker needed almost 10 hours to go 8 miles. Though he drives a jeep so he pulled a bunch of people out of the ditch and up hills.

It took me 6 hours to drive what normally is about 15 miles but with detours was more like 20.

That being said, I've driven from Edmonton to Calgary during a snowstorm, and that was easier than what I had to deal with 2 weeks ago in Atlanta and what's outside right now.
 
2014-02-12 08:06:10 PM  

BalugaJoe: They pay kids to smoke crack.


Who?
 
2014-02-12 08:07:33 PM  

MindStalker: czei: I've been sitting at home in Chapel Hill telecommuting most of the day since Dark Sky forecast a 90% chance of heavy snow starting at 12PM.  Can't figure out why people bothered to drive to work, only to flood the streets when it started to snow, insuring a huge traffic jam even if the roads weren't covered with snow.

Not to miss out on the fun I did venture forth in my 4WD rally car intending on finding a remote parking lot, but only narrowly missed getting hit by three SUVs in a row running a stop sign, and then immediately got stuck in a line of cars that couldn't make it up a 1% grade.

I don't mind staying in, but I have $200 tickets to see a concert in Durham and the Carolina Theater has a strict "no refund" policy, and while my car could make it in a mere 4" of snow, every since road between here and Durham is stopped dead.

http://www.carolinatheatre.org/events/canceled-pat-metheny
They canceled the shows and are offering refunds btw.


Thanks for letting me know!  When I called this afternoon they were still giving telling people the "no refunds" policy.
 
2014-02-12 08:09:25 PM  

detroitdoesntsuckthatbad: orezona: What actual Snowmaggedon looks like:

[scontent-b-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net image 720x960]

Glenwood Ave.

Holy shiat? Where is that on Glenwood, up by Crabtree?

/used to live in Cameron Village
//miss Foundation's awesome recession Sunday drink menu


Near Umstead / 540 in North Raleigh.  Not too far from Crabtree, maybe several miles north of it.
 
2014-02-12 08:11:35 PM  
Hey, Triangle. I hear you're all snowy. Can't say I'm sorry I'm missing it - don't forget the milk and bread!
 
2014-02-12 08:11:36 PM  
A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it.

i.chzbgr.com
 
2014-02-12 08:18:49 PM  
snowblowing the driveway on the hour...gonna be a long night.
 
2014-02-12 08:20:01 PM  
Meanwhile in Atlanta , everyone stayed home and for once, this did not happen.
 
2014-02-12 08:25:05 PM  
I'm in Wilmington, been powerless since last night(they're saying Saturday for power) and my car was a literal ice cube this morning. Only one of my friends have power at yrs point, it's insane./the county and city owns no plows//neither does the state, they're county owned
 
2014-02-12 08:27:24 PM  
I stayed home today in (metro) Atlanta and thought all day I could have gone to work. Two weeks ago I went to work and was all "shiat, how am I going to get home."

Shrug

I wonder what the weather people of Raleigh-Durham told the populace, cause two weeks ago the event was going to be south of Atlanta.
 
2014-02-12 08:33:33 PM  

Huskadoodle: I stayed home today in (metro) Atlanta and thought all day I could have gone to work. Two weeks ago I went to work and was all "shiat, how am I going to get home."

Shrug

I wonder what the weather people of Raleigh-Durham told the populace, cause two weeks ago the event was going to be south of Atlanta.


Last night they were constantly recalculating the path of the storm and where would get hit with what and when.  Even this morning a friend posted some radar screenshot on FB about how it was seemingly creeping around here-

fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net
 
2014-02-12 08:34:04 PM  

skinink: The Dukes of Blizzard.


+1 You win one (1) frozen Internet.
 
2014-02-12 08:34:14 PM  

oldernell: It's God's retaliation for the way the right wink un-Jesus republicans are running the state.


oldernell: Right wing, as in bird.


I dunno. I think "right wink" works as an apt descriptor for the GOP. It lends them the air of a closeted homosexual using code to keep his relationship on the down-low.

/kinda like the 'wider stance' of a few years back
 
2014-02-12 08:36:41 PM  
Freak the freak out.
 
2014-02-12 08:40:42 PM  

Unobtanium: dumbandilikeit: It took my hubby over 3 hours to go 7 miles. And he's a mechanic so he couldn't really work from home.

Everyone was told that the snow would start at noon.  And it did.  But it stuck to the ground immediately and snowed at about 1" an hour.  Between noon and 4pm had over 6". Roads were even pre-treated.

So lots of people went in for a half day and then everyone left precisely at noon, right when the snow came down hard.

Pretreatment can only do so much. The traffic probably swept most of it away.

Here in Atlanta, I am teleworking. But I am not a mechanic. We prepared as well as we could without buying a generator. Lucky so far.



Atlantan here.  We decided to work from home today, too.  What a weird storm.  We didn't get any real snow here, but we did very fine ice rain (?) that had a very peculiar sound when it was falling (it sounded much softer and hushed than rain...very cool sounding).    The ground is covered in white; it looks like snow, but it isn't.  It's fluffy ice---almost like snow cone ice---that makes a distinctive, soft crunchy noise.

Everything is covered in a shell of ice about 1/2 an inch thick.  Weird.
 
2014-02-12 08:44:33 PM  
Around 15 years ago, there was a terrible ice storm here the same night as an event we had secured tickets for a couple of months previously. I suggested we give it a pass but was out voted. [You married men will know what I mean.] As we came onto the interstate, through a rock cut, there was an automobile on the shoulder of the road, nose downward and car trunk in the air. I hope I've described that so you can marvel at it, too. Almost all of the momentum at that point should have taken the car to the opposite side of the road, onto the median.

Ice on roads is a terrible danger. Stay off it.
 
2014-02-12 08:46:45 PM  

Gleeman: Put a Yankee in a car with all season tires on unsalted/plowed roads and it would be Snowmageddon up there too.


Except most Yanks are smart enough to stay home in icy weather or blizzard-like conditions.

OK, some.

OK, a vast minority.

/I stay home, at least.
 
2014-02-12 08:47:19 PM  

MrHappyRotter: It might've calmed my nerves and also helped me to process this observation: There were a proportionately high number of SUVs and Lexuses abandoned on the side of the road.  Any theories?  Is there something about a Lexus or Lexus driver that makes them more prone to getting stuck in these kinds of conditions?  What about SUVs?  Something about the high center of mass and/or over confidence such vehicles impart on drivers?


I have a Lexus SUV (the RX) and it's handling things fine here in Atlanta.  No problems whatsoever during the first Snowmageddon a couple weeks ago.  I didn't drive it today, though.  I stayed in.
 
2014-02-12 08:47:45 PM  
Hudson valley ny here. next up for this storm. 10-14 inches expected. still going to work. have a beastly old jeep with new tires on it. the key is understanding that u can't still do 65 mph. slow the fark down and do what your vehicle could handle. I spend more time trying to avoid the people who have no business being out in the storm. i learned how to drive in the winter in the snow. i know what i can do or can't and am willing to admit defeat. if you don't know wtf your doing gtfo the road. you're a danger to yourself and everyone else.

/hour commute on a normal day is an hour. ill budget time for double that.
//would take off but my salary is based off 8 hours of overtime a week
/// if i take a sick day vacation day or holiday i lose the over time
 
2014-02-12 08:48:13 PM  
Today I learned that Southerners have massive chips on their shoulders.  Does all of your self esteem come from whether people thing you are good drivers?
 
2014-02-12 08:50:41 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2014-02-12 08:52:01 PM  

res_nihil: Huskadoodle: I stayed home today in (metro) Atlanta and thought all day I could have gone to work. Two weeks ago I went to work and was all "shiat, how am I going to get home."

Shrug

I wonder what the weather people of Raleigh-Durham told the populace, cause two weeks ago the event was going to be south of Atlanta.

Last night they were constantly recalculating the path of the storm and where would get hit with what and when.  Even this morning a friend posted some radar screenshot on FB about how it was seemingly creeping around here-

[fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net image 640x480]


I worked from home and watched that same radar.  It was so deceiving.  Yes but they consistently said since Monday that it would start here around Noon.  So folks figured "Oh, I'll just leave work around noon".  They had no concept of the intensity, which was also warned.
 
2014-02-12 08:52:23 PM  
That's what happened two weeks ago on the coast in NC. This time it was sleet then the temperature dropped and it froze. Now trees are down and poles have snapped downtown and most of the town is without power.
 
2014-02-12 08:53:03 PM  

MrHappyRotter: Because of a lot of us work at places that didn't give employees the option to stay home, or that offered but did so in a way that it was clear that if you did stay home, it was going to affect your next performance review -- after all, everyone else on your team came into work.


Exactly. And some places only close down when it starts snowing, or when it starts accumulating. I can't imagine many of the people stranded are out there for shiats and giggles - they're on the road because they felt like they had to be, either because they'd get in trouble or they'd put their coworkers in a bind.

I'm lucky, I know - I'm walking distance from work and several stores. I'd hate to live 20 miles away from the city and feel like I'd have to risk my life to get to work or buy groceries. (Also I think the Triad isn't getting it quite as hard as the Triangle.)

Also, I could do with a lot less of the Northern attitude. You're not less susceptible to physics, you're just from an area where the infrastructure is better equipped to handle this. It'd be like my traveling to an underdeveloped nation and bragging because I smelled better than the natives, forgetting that I have the luxury of daily showers and the ability to clean my clothes with the press of a button.
 
2014-02-12 08:54:02 PM  

Rapmaster2000: EasyWind: I was in this madness today.  16 miles in 5 hours!  I really wasn't that bad...except for the drivers.  The usual 4X4 enthusiasts with an invincibility complex piled up on the shoulders.

However, some of the 'Fast & Furious' fans abandoned their cars and walked since they could get zero traction.  That was priceless.

5 hours!?  Pfft.  I once drove a Ford Escort through 8 feet of snow to pick up a twelve pack of Michelob - the working-class man's high-class beer.  I could have driven that in 30 minutes tops playing REO Speedwagon on repeat.  #RidingTheStormOut #ChampaignReprese


fark yeah! I had a 65 Mustang with some L60 snow tires that would have went there and back in 20 min and had time to smoke a doob on the way.
 
2014-02-12 08:54:53 PM  

rev. dave: Meanwhile in Atlanta , everyone stayed home and for once, this did not happen.


No one [in Atlanta] was on the roads yesterday, either, even though it was well above freezing and there was only a tiny bit of drizzly rain.  I managed to drive over to Decatur, pick up my car, return the loaner Lexus, and make it back home in about an hour...an impossible feat during ordinary Atlanta traffic.
 
2014-02-12 08:54:57 PM  

orezona: What actual Snowmaggedon looks like:

[scontent-b-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net image 720x960]

Glenwood Ave.


cdn.abclocal.go.com

If you pull up google maps, load this address, and then use streetview, you can see right where the fire was.

9309 U.S. 70, Raleigh, North Carolina, United States
 
2014-02-12 08:56:41 PM  
If you're watching WRAL right now, they're heading down Glenwood (my route home) and there are soooooooo many abandoned vehicles it's not even funny.
 
2014-02-12 08:59:22 PM  

BalugaJoe: They hate Jews over there.


You know, South Carolina had the largest Jewish population in North America at one time:

"Owing to the liberal constitution of South Carolina and the fortunate position of the Jews at Charleston, that city by 1800 had the largest Jewish population in North America. Beth Elohim had 107 contributing members in that year, and 125 members two years later."
 
2014-02-12 09:00:02 PM  

jj325: I'm supposed to fly out of Minneapolis tomorrow night into Raleigh/Durham. Not really counting on it happening.   Funny that when I booked the flight I was worried about getting out of Minnesota in February, not landing in NC.

/I know.  No one cares


Yeah... farking stuck in NYC, trying to get home from a work trip.  Right now, my flight home for tomorrow is about to get pushed back to Monday... wtf man.
 
2014-02-12 09:02:46 PM  

Ass_Master: orezona: What actual Snowmaggedon looks like:

[scontent-b-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net image 720x960]

Glenwood Ave.

[cdn.abclocal.go.com image 450x600]

If you pull up google maps, load this address, and then use streetview, you can see right where the fire was.

9309 U.S. 70, Raleigh, North Carolina, United States


Is the fire from an accident or something else?
 
2014-02-12 09:04:46 PM  

FizixJunkee: Ass_Master: orezona: What actual Snowmaggedon looks like:

[scontent-b-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net image 720x960]

Glenwood Ave.

[cdn.abclocal.go.com image 450x600]

If you pull up google maps, load this address, and then use streetview, you can see right where the fire was.

9309 U.S. 70, Raleigh, North Carolina, United States

Is the fire from an accident or something else?


They set one on fire intentionally for warmth.
 
2014-02-12 09:05:21 PM  

Ass_Master: orezona: What actual Snowmaggedon looks like:

[scontent-b-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net image 720x960]

Glenwood Ave.

[cdn.abclocal.go.com image 450x600]

If you pull up google maps, load this address, and then use streetview, you can see right where the fire was.

9309 U.S. 70, Raleigh, North Carolina, United States


How does someone set their car on fire like that?  Just revving the engine without traction??
 
2014-02-12 09:06:16 PM  
People from Raleigh doing dumb shiat ?!? Nahhhhh!

/Stay home on snow days.
//Duh.
 
2014-02-12 09:09:14 PM  
Went to the office this morning hoping to get a few things done before running to the store. Got to the grocery store about 10:30, and was rather disappointed to find NO 18-packs of Heineken.  As luck would have it, Stella 12-packs were on sale for $11.99.  This weather, you know.  You have to make do.  On the milk counter I saw 2-3 gallons of something called skim (sp?) and 3 gallons of chocolate milk.  I got the last quart of real moo juice and hit the road for home.  Got 3 tubes of Pringles, too, in case of emergency.  Got home well before the snow started, only to find stupid NBC planned to broadcast the Arse v ManUre snorefest instead of the down to the wire L'Pool battle.  Winter can be H-E-double toothpicks down here, I tell ya what.  More info as the situation develops.
 
2014-02-12 09:17:32 PM  
I'm just outside Atlanta. It was sleeting when I woke up, hasn't really stopped yet. I stayed home all day. Earlier there was one set of tire marks down the street. Looks like he made it, but no one else has gone anywhere.

There is a good 1.5" of ice over everything, maybe .325" of snow on top of that.
 
2014-02-12 09:19:12 PM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: Ass_Master: orezona: What actual Snowmaggedon looks like:

[scontent-b-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net image 720x960]

Glenwood Ave.

[cdn.abclocal.go.com image 450x600]

If you pull up google maps, load this address, and then use streetview, you can see right where the fire was.

9309 U.S. 70, Raleigh, North Carolina, United States

How does someone set their car on fire like that?  Just revving the engine without traction??


My friend once set his Country Squire on fire trying to rock it out of the snow.  The carpet began smoldering and he and his passenger had to start cutting out pieces of the carpet.  So I believe in that case it was the transmission.  He was able to save the car.

Clogged and/or malfunctioning catalytic converters are a similar cause of such fires.
 
2014-02-12 09:21:21 PM  
I tend to stay away from stupid people. So far, its working well for me.
 
2014-02-12 09:21:37 PM  
We've had over 95" of snow this winter in Buffalo NY. Yawn.
 
2014-02-12 09:21:49 PM  

Zarquon's Flat Tire: I'm just outside Atlanta. It was sleeting when I woke up, hasn't really stopped yet. I stayed home all day. Earlier there was one set of tire marks down the street. Looks like he made it, but no one else has gone anywhere.

There is a good 1.5" of ice over everything, maybe .325" of snow on top of that.


I'm in North Decatur.  Sleet started at 4:30 am and actually woke me up.  We only got about 1.5 hours of freezing rain from 9-10:30 and then the rest sleet.  I would estimate there is about 1.5 inches of sleet which as someone noted looks like everything is covered in sno-cone ice.  Now it's just flurries.
 
2014-02-12 09:22:30 PM  

czei: I don't mind staying in, but I have $200 tickets to see a concert in Durham and the Carolina Theater has a strict "no refund" policy, and while my car could make it in a mere 4" of snow, every since road between here and Durham is stopped dead.


Just got a note from Ticketmaster: they canceled tonight's Pat Methany show. Hope they can re-book it.
 
2014-02-12 09:23:35 PM  

czei: But despite the asshats, I think the biggest problem is no one in the RTP buys tires based on how well they handle in the snow.   Tires make a huge difference on traction, and that exacerbates the lack of driving skills.  All the northern transplants from where you get a lot of snow either buy all seasons that can handle snow or swap on snow tires in the winter.  5 or 7 years in the south with no snow means people are choosing tires that can't handle snow since they suck in the summer.


This, this this.  I would be willing to guess that a lot of the abandoned cars sitting out there right now have summer tires.  It makes a HUUUUUUUGE difference.  Even allseasons to true winter tires is a big step.  Summer tires to allseasons would easily be a deciding factor in if you got your car home tonight in Raleigh.

I have allseasons on my Altima in Wisconsin (I want separate summer/winter, but they were like new with the car) and I can get through up to 4-5 inches of snow just fine.  Stopping distance and turning radius increase, but I can still get around.  If had summer tires on right now, my car wouldn't make it out of the alley.

You can drive in this stuff.  If you have the proper equipment.
 
2014-02-12 09:25:28 PM  
That burning car on US 70 is a BMW.
Bank on it.
 
2014-02-12 09:26:16 PM  
I just posted this on Facebook:

Ok, now that I've had a nice long hot bath, a piping hot bowl of clam chowder and several shots of vodka I can relate my tale of getting home.

I should have left work at noon, but it didn't look too bad. Was working hard so I didn't pay attention to the front window until 12:45...the snow was coming down pretty steady and was already sticking to the road. I tried to schedule a FedEx pick up for some viola bows we had rehaired and that our customer wanted back desperately, but FedEx had already stopped pick ups.

I was told that if I took it to the FedExKinko's on Hillsborough St across from NCSU by 2:00 it would go out. My boss said that'd be fine for me to drop it off there and then head on home.

It was 1:00.

Like me he didn't realize how backed up traffic was. It took me an hour to drive 3 blocks.......I said "fark it!", parked my car legally and safely on Hillsborough St in front of St. Mary's School, walked the package back to the shop (would rather my customer's bows be at work than in my car) and I walked home.....all 9 miles.

I outpaced traffic on Glenwood Ave and Creedmoor Rd. I would have gone stir crazy if I had been driving!! Cars were slipping and sliding everywhere! I never got cold because I had dressed for "just in case". I also had a bottle of water, some granola bars, Reese's and GS cookies.

I left the shop at 2:30, got home at 6:40. 9 miles. Now let me put this into perspective: it took me 4 hours to get home walking. I took my time because I didn't want to cramp my calf's walking through the snow drifts or on the slippery packed ice/snow. One of my coworkers lives 3.8 miles away from the shop it took him THREE HOURS to DRIVE home!!!! I would have lost my mind!!

Hell yeah I'm glad I walked home!

Time for more vodak.
 
2014-02-12 09:28:16 PM  

orezona: What actual Snowmaggedon looks like:

[scontent-b-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net image 720x960]

Glenwood Ave.


Da-yum!!!!!
 
2014-02-12 09:29:15 PM  

Delawheredad: You have to excuse southerners. Unless it is involves and oval and left turns good ol' boys just can't drive.


What about tow truck drivers from Colorado? Can they drive in snow?

To quote: "I can only remember one storm in Colorado that caused the absolute glare ice that we saw here during that 30 hour period. I had chains on both rear axels of our largest truck and nearly totaled it while my cable was hooked to a loaded semi 100 feet behind me on a hill on S. Tejon. It was one of the scariest moments of my 14 years driving trucks. I had the best equipment available and nearly destroyed it, the semi I was winching and 10 cars around us. Those conditions are as close to what we have now in Birmingham as I can remember."

And before anyone starts in on the whole "you were all warned" crap... Not so fast. There's a reason why the NWS was screaming "ATLANTA WAS WARNED!" at the top of their lungs to any press that would print it. The forecast for Birmingham, which experienced the exact same problems on the exact same day (and suffered more casualties as a result, I might add) was in fact not correct.

"A statement from the National Weather Service said forecasters realized conditions were changing in central Alabama and issued a public advisory around 9 a.m. CST. Snow began falling around 10 a.m., the weather service said, and a winter storm warning was issued one hour later."
 
2014-02-12 09:30:14 PM  

HotIgneous Intruder: That burning car on US 70 is a BMW.
Bank on it.


I saw one on fire last week in Atlanta and I can believe it.  My 3-series has new all-seasons and it stinks on ice.  I've never driven a worse car in the snow.  I should have opened my trunk and piled snow in there like we used to do with our pickup in Indiana.  It had to drive that farker sideways up a hill.

With the summer tires that are too common down here, I can easily see someone revving it up a hill until it overheats and burns.  It probably doesn't help cooling that the straight-six is so far back from the front of the car that it jams itself into the driver's space.  A 335i turbo would only make it worse.
 
2014-02-12 09:30:47 PM  

Rapmaster2000: Zarquon's Flat Tire: I'm just outside Atlanta. It was sleeting when I woke up, hasn't really stopped yet. I stayed home all day. Earlier there was one set of tire marks down the street. Looks like he made it, but no one else has gone anywhere.

There is a good 1.5" of ice over everything, maybe .325" of snow on top of that.

I'm in North Decatur.  Sleet started at 4:30 am and actually woke me up.  We only got about 1.5 hours of freezing rain from 9-10:30 and then the rest sleet.  I would estimate there is about 1.5 inches of sleet which as someone noted looks like everything is covered in sno-cone ice.  Now it's just flurries.


Conyers, yeah we have that sheath of ice over everything too. Looks like no pears off the tree this year, no idea what this did to the peach crop, but pears are the same genus and the buds were set.
 
2014-02-12 09:31:23 PM  

FizixJunkee: Unobtanium: dumbandilikeit: It took my hubby over 3 hours to go 7 miles. And he's a mechanic so he couldn't really work from home.

Everyone was told that the snow would start at noon.  And it did.  But it stuck to the ground immediately and snowed at about 1" an hour.  Between noon and 4pm had over 6". Roads were even pre-treated.

So lots of people went in for a half day and then everyone left precisely at noon, right when the snow came down hard.

Pretreatment can only do so much. The traffic probably swept most of it away.

Here in Atlanta, I am teleworking. But I am not a mechanic. We prepared as well as we could without buying a generator. Lucky so far.


Atlantan here.  We decided to work from home today, too.  What a weird storm.  We didn't get any real snow here, but we did very fine ice rain (?) that had a very peculiar sound when it was falling (it sounded much softer and hushed than rain...very cool sounding).    The ground is covered in white; it looks like snow, but it isn't.  It's fluffy ice---almost like snow cone ice---that makes a distinctive, soft crunchy noise.

Everything is covered in a shell of ice about 1/2 an inch thick.  Weird.


That's sleet.
 
2014-02-12 09:40:39 PM  

EricTheHalfABee: It was crazy how fast the roads went from completely snow free and simply wet to covered with sticky, accumulating snow. We ran down to the store about a half mile away and during the 15 minutes we were in there, the road conditions changed dramatically.

I think most people are used to it being able to snow for an hour or two before the roads start to show any accumulation (this is what happened yesterday). Most people thought they had plenty of time to get home.


Exactly the situation we had here in Alabama two weeks ago, aside from the fact that ours wasn't predicted until an hour after it started snowing-- and by then, everyone was already on the road. To our credit, we haven't had anything like this happen here since 1982, when it wasn't supposed to start snowing until 6pm and it started at mid-morning instead. Since we had the issues two weeks ago, schools and businesses are back to closing if it looks like it might be cold.
 
2014-02-12 09:41:02 PM  
Hey, NC...

imageshack.com 

Told you farks yesterday to call in sick, say you got the crabs. Dumfarks.
 
2014-02-12 09:44:22 PM  
More than likely it was smartass northerners who went out in the snow saying that "it isn't all that bad" -- forgetting, of course, that there is not an army of plows keeping the roads clear here.
 
2014-02-12 09:45:00 PM  

Rapmaster2000: HotIgneous Intruder: That burning car on US 70 is a BMW.
Bank on it.

I saw one on fire last week in Atlanta and I can believe it.  My 3-series has new all-seasons and it stinks on ice.  I've never driven a worse car in the snow.  I should have opened my trunk and piled snow in there like we used to do with our pickup in Indiana.  It had to drive that farker sideways up a hill.

With the summer tires that are too common down here, I can easily see someone revving it up a hill until it overheats and burns.  It probably doesn't help cooling that the straight-six is so far back from the front of the car that it jams itself into the driver's space.  A 335i turbo would only make it worse.


Subarus aren't just for New Hampshire and lesbians!
 
2014-02-12 09:46:25 PM  
Atlanta (Alpharetta) here... trapped at North Fulton Hospital. Wife just had our first kid. Grateful for the ice, it's preventing family from descending on us. However that also means I'm trapped here with a still hormonal wife and a newborn that has a strong possibility of being mine.
 
2014-02-12 09:48:56 PM  

uncleacid: Four wheel drive doesn't help if everyone in front of you has one wheel drive.


Which is why the state should help out by pushing the stalled vehicles into the ditch where they'll require a $200 tow to get out. Stupid tax.
 
2014-02-12 10:05:12 PM  

trekkiecougar: I should have left work at noon, but it didn't look too bad. Was working hard so I didn't pay attention to the front window until 12:45...the snow was coming down pretty steady and was already sticking to the road. I tried to schedule a FedEx pick up for some viola bows we had rehaired and that our customer wanted back desperately, but FedEx had already stopped pick ups.


Sounds like you work at  Pasewicz :-)
 
2014-02-12 10:08:13 PM  
Well fark last I heard on weather NC and VA are supposed to get 18". Do you know how much 18" is? ( unzips pants)
 
2014-02-12 10:10:32 PM  

Hot Carl To Go: Atlanta (Alpharetta) here... trapped at North Fulton Hospital. Wife just had our first kid. Grateful for the ice, it's preventing family from descending on us. However that also means I'm trapped here with a still hormonal wife and a newborn that has a strong possibility of being mine.


It's not yours. I know.

/seriously though.. congrats!
 
2014-02-12 10:22:51 PM  
My dumb ass went to work in RTP this morning and stuck around too long. I didn't even try to leave the parking lot at work.

Of course, i have food, internet, a PS3, a sleep pod, and a generator, so it's not a big deal.
 
2014-02-12 10:28:36 PM  

MrHappyRotter: czei: I've been sitting at home in Chapel Hill telecommuting most of the day since Dark Sky forecast a 90% chance of heavy snow starting at 12PM.  Can't figure out why people bothered to drive to work, only to flood the streets when it started to snow, insuring a huge traffic jam even if the roads weren't covered with snow.

Because of a lot of us work at places that didn't give employees the option to stay home, or that offered but did so in a way that it was clear that if you did stay home, it was going to affect your next performance review -- after all, everyone else on your team came into work.


As a tech manager, I can give my official opinion that you work for morons.  Why would you want your employees stuck in traffic for hours when they can be home getting something done?  Of course, that only works if you have the kind of job where you can get stuff done at home.   I didn't tell people they had to come in or not, but the ones who did spent hours towing other people out of ditches close to the office.

Local bosses had to know this traffic situation would happen because it just happened to Atlanta, and the same thing happened her the last time it snowed more than 2".
 
2014-02-12 10:33:55 PM  

Hot Carl To Go: Atlanta (Alpharetta) here... trapped at North Fulton Hospital. Wife just had our first kid. Grateful for the ice, it's preventing family from descending on us. However that also means I'm trapped here with a still hormonal wife and a newborn that has a strong possibility of being mine.


My wife was ejected from the hospital in the middle of a hurricane after the birth of our first child. I guess people in New Orleans know how to drive in a hurricane.

We made it home, but it was a hell of a night for brand new parents.
 
2014-02-12 10:34:01 PM  

Oldiron_79: Well fark last I heard on weather NC and VA are supposed to get 18". Do you know how much 18" is? ( unzips pants)


six of those?
 
2014-02-12 10:36:47 PM  

Hobodeluxe: Oldiron_79: Well fark last I heard on weather NC and VA are supposed to get 18". Do you know how much 18" is? ( unzips pants)

six of those?


Yeah about 6 times the diameter
 
2014-02-12 10:39:34 PM  

cmunic8r99: My dumb ass went to work in RTP this morning and stuck around too long. I didn't even try to leave the parking lot at work.

Of course, i have food, internet, a PS3, a sleep pod, and a generator, so it's not a big deal.


What does a sleep pod look like?
 
2014-02-12 10:39:56 PM  

just_intonation: When it snows as much in RDU as it did in January of '99 2000, then I'll be impressed.

/flew in on Monday afternoon
//Tuesday morning there was 23" of snow on the ground
///Stuck in the damn Hilton Garden RDU for three days
///csb
/slashies


January of 2000
 
2014-02-12 10:42:50 PM  

BalugaJoe: cmunic8r99: My dumb ass went to work in RTP this morning and stuck around too long. I didn't even try to leave the parking lot at work.

Of course, i have food, internet, a PS3, a sleep pod, and a generator, so it's not a big deal.

What does a sleep pod look like?


http://www.metronaps.com
 
2014-02-12 10:46:21 PM  
mr lawson:

It's not yours. I know.

/seriously though.. congrats!


Thanks! Definitely springing for the DNA test. I'll head to the nurses' station in a few and try to convince them that I need help getting a sample.

Huskadoodle:

My wife was ejected from the hospital in the middle of a hurricane after the birth of our first child. I guess people in New Orleans know how to drive in a hurricane.

We made it home, but it was a hell of a night for brand new parents.


Dude... glad nothing happened on the way. That is crazy.
 
2014-02-12 10:46:30 PM  

yakmans_dad: Around 15 years ago, there was a terrible ice storm here the same night as an event we had secured tickets for a couple of months previously. I suggested we give it a pass but was out voted. [You married men will know what I mean.] As we came onto the interstate, through a rock cut, there was an automobile on the shoulder of the road, nose downward and car trunk in the air. I hope I've described that so you can marvel at it, too. Almost all of the momentum at that point should have taken the car to the opposite side of the road, onto the median.

Ice on roads is a terrible danger. Stay off it.


There was a really bad ice storm January of '96 or '97. About five inches of ice. Covered the whole southeast, I was driving back to college after winter break. Did a 360 on I-85 in downtown Atlanta on black ice. Terrifying drive.

/got the whole week off of school
//couldn't get to class but could get to bar
///drunk+ice=bruises
 
2014-02-12 10:50:40 PM  

Nick Nostril: Hey, NC...

[imageshack.com image 510x510] 

Told you farks yesterday to call in sick, say you got the crabs. Dumfarks.


Unfortunately, try as we might, we can't keep idiot Yankees from moving down here.
 
2014-02-12 10:50:43 PM  

detroitdoesntsuckthatbad: orezona: What actual Snowmaggedon looks like:

[scontent-b-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net image 720x960]

Glenwood Ave.

Holy shiat? Where is that on Glenwood, up by Crabtree?

/used to live in Cameron Village
//miss Foundation's awesome recession Sunday drink menu


OMG, used to live near Cameron Village.  Went to Broughton High School.  Early 70s, so it was a very sleepy place at the time.
 
2014-02-12 10:55:07 PM  

czei: Not to miss out on the fun I did venture forth in my 4WD rally car intending on finding a remote parking lot, but only narrowly missed getting hit by three SUVs in a row running a stop sign, and then immediately got stuck in a line of cars that couldn't make it up a 1% grade.


What kind of car is it?

I have an old 4wd turbo celica that I'm hoping to get completely fixed up someday as my toy.
 
2014-02-12 10:56:56 PM  

czei: trekkiecougar: I should have left work at noon, but it didn't look too bad. Was working hard so I didn't pay attention to the front window until 12:45...the snow was coming down pretty steady and was already sticking to the road. I tried to schedule a FedEx pick up for some viola bows we had rehaired and that our customer wanted back desperately, but FedEx had already stopped pick ups.

Sounds like you work at  Pasewicz :-)


Nope, have been John Montgomery's secretary/bookkeeper for going on 21 years :)!
 
2014-02-12 10:58:08 PM  

Deep Contact: We've had over 95" of snow this winter in Buffalo NY. Yawn.


FWIW, we have a metric shiat-ton more bad weather equipment and experience than they have down there. Imagine driving the 33 minus the salt and snowplows.
 
2014-02-12 11:01:56 PM  
Just realized I spelled "calves" wrong in my original post.......nite nite time for me!

/ok Sexy, I'm getting off of the computer now
 
2014-02-12 11:08:50 PM  
Huntsville AL area here.

We've got 2-4" of snow on the road right outside my house (and it rained all day, so who knows how much ice under that) and it's supposed to keep precipitating and remain below freezing until 5-7 am tomorrow. Not even gonna bother setting the alarm. Pretty sure they'll close Redstone Arsenal again.

It was good that so many business closed on Tues and are closing or opening late tomorrow. Sadly, my skank-ass employer doesn't give a fark about us and didn't/won't be sending out any sort of "don't come in" email. Freaking Burger King cares more for their employees and that's just sad.
 
2014-02-12 11:11:35 PM  

kitsuneymg: Huntsville AL area here.

We've got 2-4" of snow on the road right outside my house (and it rained all day, so who knows how much ice under that) and it's supposed to keep precipitating and remain below freezing until 5-7 am tomorrow. Not even gonna bother setting the alarm. Pretty sure they'll close Redstone Arsenal again.

It was good that so many business closed on Tues and are closing or opening late tomorrow. Sadly, my skank-ass employer doesn't give a fark about us and didn't/won't be sending out any sort of "don't come in" email. Freaking Burger King cares more for their employees and that's just sad.


Here in Knoxville we have about 4.5" on the ground already and still coming down, 8" expected
 
2014-02-12 11:18:30 PM  
Speaking of inaccurate forecasts...

A day or two ago, the forecasts were all saying we'd get trace amounts up to 1 inch of accumulation in the form of snow, sleet and/or freezing rain.

This morning I was seeing predictions for 1" - 2" of snow and sleet.

When I got home today, predictions were for 2" - 4" total.

A few minutes ago, I saw that we've gotten 5" - 7" of snow & sleet.  And it's not over, sleet and freezing rain are still falling.

I completely understand that weather prediction is unreliable and an inexact science.  But, when the predictions are so inaccurate, and ironically unpredictable, people as a whole do tend to stop treating them so seriously.  When your TV and radio meteorologists are "predicting" the weather as it happens, during a work week when people are working, then yes, don't be surprised when the warnings of sudden and severe hazardous conditions don't make it out to the populous.
 
2014-02-12 11:26:05 PM  
And I just peeked outside.  The ice is really starting to build up on the tree limbs.  There aren't really any power lines visible without me taking a walk, which I may do shortly, but it's definitely beginning to look like we could be approaching that threatening 1/4" ice accumulation point, where damage starts to become widespread, if the precipitation continues through the night.
 
2014-02-12 11:26:12 PM  

Oldiron_79: Here in Knoxville we have about 4.5" on the ground already and still coming down, 8" expected


howdy neighbor!
here in Maryville, I have a solid 6" on ground
(just checked a couple min ago)
 
2014-02-12 11:31:57 PM  
czei:

But despite the asshats, I think the biggest problem is no one in the RTP buys tires based on how well they handle in the snow.  Tires make a huge difference on traction, and that exacerbates the lack of driving skills.  All the northern transplants from where you get a lot of snow either buy all seasons that can handle snow or swap on snow tires in the winter.  5 or 7 years in the south with no snow means people are choosing tires that can't handle snow since they suck in the summer.

This.  I called my bro (parents, bro and sis lives in Raleigh-Durham, NC) and we talked about dad getting stuck for a little while.  He has the truck for it, but he has nearly bald summer tires.  He saw my point about the tires, but still tried to argue the truck being RWD.  I said that didn't really have anything to do with it, he didn't have good tires and he hasn't really driven in snow since 1980.  I told him if I can get around on unplowed roads in dad's old RWD Ranger, his newer F-150 would be a dream, he just needs better tires.
 
2014-02-12 11:34:18 PM  

lack of warmth: He saw my point about the tires, but still tried to argue the truck being RWD.


Seriously not good for snow or ice.
 
2014-02-12 11:44:16 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: with a windchill of 12 degrees

Ummmm... yeahhhhh...  Wind chill here today is -40.  It's the same in Centigrade or Fahrenheit and it's damn cold.  12F is -11C - that's getting close to shirtsleeve weather in a Northern Alberta winter.


No one cares.
 
2014-02-12 11:48:06 PM  

tomerson: Benevolent Misanthrope: with a windchill of 12 degrees

Ummmm... yeahhhhh...  Wind chill here today is -40.  It's the same in Centigrade or Fahrenheit and it's damn cold.  12F is -11C - that's getting close to shirtsleeve weather in a Northern Alberta winter.

No one cares.


1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-02-12 11:49:14 PM  

Boo_Guy: czei: Not to miss out on the fun I did venture forth in my 4WD rally car intending on finding a remote parking lot, but only narrowly missed getting hit by three SUVs in a row running a stop sign, and then immediately got stuck in a line of cars that couldn't make it up a 1% grade.

What kind of car is it?

I have an old 4wd turbo celica that I'm hoping to get completely fixed up someday as my toy.


That would make an awesome rally car.  I'm driving a gutted '93 Subaru Legacy that cost $1,200 including 3 sets of wheels.  The rally tires are so solid in the snow it takes the hand brake to make it drift. The damn thing has 245K miles on it and has been through more than 60 races and the only things its needed are a new clutch and oil pan.

fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net
 
2014-02-13 12:02:47 AM  

Boojum2k: lack of warmth: He saw my point about the tires, but still tried to argue the truck being RWD.

Seriously not good for snow or ice.


Depends, if you're in a hurry 4wd is the way to go, if you are out on a day off just running errands rwd can be pretty fun.  I like my selector switch, 'oh, I need to make a u-turn', I then flip it to rwd and give it a little gas and the u-turn is complete.  It takes practice and the wife hates it, but the kids and I have fun.

Whereas, getting stuck behind a fwd car with crappy tires is the most annoying thing ever.
 
2014-02-13 12:06:39 AM  
South Maryville @ 11:50pm ~ 6"
/my house of course
//got 7 more hours of snow to go

scontent-a-atl.xx.fbcdn.net
 
2014-02-13 12:07:37 AM  

Huggermugger: detroitdoesntsuckthatbad: orezona: What actual Snowmaggedon looks like:

[scontent-b-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net image 720x960]

Glenwood Ave.

Holy shiat? Where is that on Glenwood, up by Crabtree?

/used to live in Cameron Village
//miss Foundation's awesome recession Sunday drink menu

OMG, used to live near Cameron Village.  Went to Broughton High School.  Early 70s, so it was a very sleepy place at the time.




You know the apartments next to the street into Broughton that looked like the Brady Bunch house? This guy
/worked in RTP, easy drive in and out down Wake each day. Damn I miss Raleigh.
 
2014-02-13 12:18:20 AM  
The snow packed down and was very dense, any hills became difficult to drive on.  Southbound capital blvd went from 4 lanes to a single car at a time attempting to climb the hill to get over 440... With people helping to push.

I got stuck downtown on the way home, I was at a red light on a slight incline.  But I used my snow scraper to clear the pavement ahead and was able to regain traction once I flipped off the stupid ass stability control.

Everyone knew this was coming, I honestly was expecting it to take me an hour to get home (about 2.5x longer than normal).  Instead it took me 3 and a half hours.  Once I got off capital, I cut through wood crest and oakwood.  It was quite serene driving through there.
 
2014-02-13 12:22:40 AM  

lack of warmth: Whereas, getting stuck behind a fwd car with crappy tires is the most annoying thing ever.


In NH I had a FWD low-bodied car that ignored snow* and most ice. Drove like on asphalt. Never had much luck with RWD, and most of the cars I saw spun off on the side were AWD Subaru's and 4WD SUV's.

*Except on a December date, when it got stuck on a snowpile at a parking lot exit.
/Best. Date. Ever!
 
2014-02-13 12:39:13 AM  

mr lawson: South Maryville @ 11:50pm ~ 6"
/my house of course
//got 7 more hours of snow to go


My 4.5" report was a hour or 2 ago just measured at 5.25" (135 mm for you euro farkers, not sure what that is in Rods for the UK farkers)
 
2014-02-13 01:02:55 AM  

Oldiron_79: mr lawson: South Maryville @ 11:50pm ~ 6"
/my house of course
//got 7 more hours of snow to go

My 4.5" report was a hour or 2 ago just measured at 5.25" (135 mm for you euro farkers, not sure what that is in Rods for the UK farkers)


Depends how long your rod is.  I guess you're already well past one rod.
 
2014-02-13 01:11:15 AM  

Oldiron_79: My 4.5" report was a hour or 2 ago just measured at 5.25" (135 mm for you euro farkers, not sure what that is in Rods for the UK farkers)


Raw video: Neyland snowball fight  http://t.co/RWlCe4FPYo
GO Vols!
 
2014-02-13 01:14:39 AM  

TOSViolation: Oldiron_79: mr lawson: South Maryville @ 11:50pm ~ 6"
/my house of course
//got 7 more hours of snow to go

My 4.5" report was a hour or 2 ago just measured at 5.25" (135 mm for you euro farkers, not sure what that is in Rods for the UK farkers)

Depends how long your rod is.  I guess you're already well past one rod.


No a rod is a surveying measurement that is 5 1/2 yards long.
 
2014-02-13 01:16:52 AM  

Oldiron_79: TOSViolation: Oldiron_79: mr lawson: South Maryville @ 11:50pm ~ 6"
/my house of course
//got 7 more hours of snow to go

My 4.5" report was a hour or 2 ago just measured at 5.25" (135 mm for you euro farkers, not sure what that is in Rods for the UK farkers)

Depends how long your rod is.  I guess you're already well past one rod.

No a rod is a surveying measurement that is 5 1/2 yards long.


That's not what she said.
 
2014-02-13 01:17:43 AM  

Oldiron_79: TOSViolation: Oldiron_79: mr lawson: South Maryville @ 11:50pm ~ 6"
/my house of course
//got 7 more hours of snow to go

My 4.5" report was a hour or 2 ago just measured at 5.25" (135 mm for you euro farkers, not sure what that is in Rods for the UK farkers)

Depends how long your rod is.  I guess you're already well past one rod.

No a rod is a surveying measurement that is 5 1/2 yards long.


Braggart.
 
2014-02-13 01:17:52 AM  

TOSViolation: Oldiron_79: TOSViolation: Oldiron_79: mr lawson: South Maryville @ 11:50pm ~ 6"
/my house of course
//got 7 more hours of snow to go

My 4.5" report was a hour or 2 ago just measured at 5.25" (135 mm for you euro farkers, not sure what that is in Rods for the UK farkers)

Depends how long your rod is.  I guess you're already well past one rod.

No a rod is a surveying measurement that is 5 1/2 yards long.

That's not what she said.


Well I guess thats because YOUR rod isnt 5 1/2 yards long.
 
2014-02-13 01:20:18 AM  

MrHappyRotter: Semper IvXx:
The funny thing about the RDU area? It's mostly transplanted northerners who insist a little snow is no big deal where they're from. Enjoy your farking 20 mile walk in the snow idiots, but hey you're a total Internet badass because a little snow doesn't stop you from driving.

That's always made me chuckle when people hate on this area.  I'm not even saying the hate is misplaced or unfounded.  But it's usually sprinkled with the not at all subtle bashing of Southerners.  Then, when you start talking to your friends, co-workers and acquaintances, you realize that a large proportion (if not the majority) of people are transplants.


Guess what?  They're Southern by choice, by the grace of God through the intercession of air conditioning.
 
2014-02-13 01:24:39 AM  

Oldiron_79: TOSViolation: Oldiron_79: TOSViolation: Oldiron_79: mr lawson: South Maryville @ 11:50pm ~ 6"
/my house of course
//got 7 more hours of snow to go

My 4.5" report was a hour or 2 ago just measured at 5.25" (135 mm for you euro farkers, not sure what that is in Rods for the UK farkers)

Depends how long your rod is.  I guess you're already well past one rod.

No a rod is a surveying measurement that is 5 1/2 yards long.

That's not what she said.

Well I guess thats because YOUR rod isnt 5 1/2 yards long.


2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-02-13 01:38:44 AM  

TOSViolation: Oldiron_79: TOSViolation: Oldiron_79: TOSViolation: Oldiron_79: mr lawson: South Maryville @ 11:50pm ~ 6"
/my house of course
//got 7 more hours of snow to go

My 4.5" report was a hour or 2 ago just measured at 5.25" (135 mm for you euro farkers, not sure what that is in Rods for the UK farkers)

Depends how long your rod is.  I guess you're already well past one rod.

No a rod is a surveying measurement that is 5 1/2 yards long.

That's not what she said.

Well I guess thats because YOUR rod isnt 5 1/2 yards long.

[2.bp.blogspot.com image 379x214]


What does a man with a 5 1/2 yard rod do when he comes home?
Kicks off his shoes, undoes his belt, and unwinds.
 
2014-02-13 02:22:57 AM  
(North Jersey Resident)

Yup. It's a state of emergency. I'm staying the fark home from work. Route 80 is going to be a goddamn nightmare.
 
2014-02-13 06:55:14 AM  

PiffMan420: (North Jersey Resident)

Yup. It's a state of emergency. I'm staying the fark home from work. Route 80 is going to be a goddamn nightmare.


North jersey transplamt now in tge hudson valley ny. trekked from Middletown ny to kingston ny this morn. getting home will be fun. kingstons lookin at 20" with rates of up to 3 an hour. cuomo better not close 84 again
 
2014-02-13 08:51:59 AM  
fubegra.net
 
2014-02-13 09:26:09 AM  

Gleeman: Put a Yankee in a car with all season tires on unsalted/plowed roads and it would be Snowmageddon up there too.


Not really. Try living in Indiana for a few years. Indiana does it's damndest to never plow a thing. Even in Indianapolis, it's second pride and joy after the raceway. I lived there through light snow, heavy snow storms, and an ice storm that coated everything in 3/4 to an inch of ice overnight.

img.fark.net

 I never saw anything that looked remotely as bad as the pictures and videos coming out of the South.

I drove through the barely plowed Indiana roads and freeways through every bad winter weather condition in my low to the ground, front wheel drive, turbocharged, automatic car while using performance orientated all seasons. Hell, at one point I was traveling for work in late January through rural Iowa at night during a heavy snow storm. Everything was white. I could just barely notice street signs and was only able to navigate because my GPS held enough of a signal to give me a rough idea of where I was.

My poor little sporty car was being bounced around by a mix of thick snow and ice chunks so hard my cell phone gained air off my dash more than once. Yet with my low, FF, turbo, slushbox car on all seasons I never ended up in a ditch. I didn't see anyone else spun out or stopped either. There was enough ice where I had to put on my slip on ice cleats in order to not fall once I reached a gas station to take a break and my hotel an hour later.

Yeah, shiatty weather conditions can be dangerous for anyone. But from my experiences in the North people handle it just fine. Even with all seasons. Hell, even now that we have record breaking snowfalls and low temps I still see the occasional BMW/Merc/etc in a parking low rocking full on summer tires. My current winter beater is an auto FR car with an open rear diff and Walmart special tires. I've been just fine.

The sudden bad weather sucks for you guys. No arguments here. Especially when it's equal parts ice and snow. But stop acting like us up here would be just as bad at it as you all down there are. Or is it "ya'll"?

Most people here in the North run all seasons. Seeing someone with actual snow tires is rare. Most people don't keep a second set of wheels and tires.

/No one taught me how to drive in the winter. For the most part I'm a self taught driver, including stick. I don't have problems in the winter.
 
2014-02-13 10:14:58 AM  
It wasn't just people that were the issue on my commute paths... In fact, commuters abandoning vehicles because they were stuck was few and far between on my route.  BUT the biggest snarl was semis getting stuck going up hills. Then you blow a whole damn lane.  Traffic would be a nightmare on these roads on a dry day if that happened.  Some of my routes saw two semis in different lanes flat out stuck.
 
2014-02-13 11:33:49 AM  
A persnickety thing: Raleigh-Durham isn't a city, y'all.  Use 'The Triangle' when referring to the larger metro area.  Yes, Raleigh/Durham is the name of the airport, but that's it.

Also, the weather sucked yesterday.  And today.  But at least today the office is closed, as are the schools, and the town hall, and probably the liquor stores (glad I stocked up yesterday!), and mostly everything else, though I'm not venturing out to recon.  I'll watch it rain and hope that the ginormous half-dead tree in the lot next door can hold up under the coating of ice it got last night. What a mess.
 
2014-02-13 01:43:14 PM  
Raleigh-Durham, jealous of all the winter press Atlanta has gotten, turns interstate into parking lot

img.fark.net

Amateurs!  I didn't even need snow.
 
2014-02-13 01:49:45 PM  
This morning: OMG, it's going to start snowing at noon and we're going to get steady snow all afternoon and evening, looking at 2 - 4 inches of additional accumulation.

A few hours later: Well, it doesn't seem like it's going to be that bad.  Patchy snow and rain expected.  Maybe trace to an inch of snow at best.

When your damned "predictions" are real time observations, then yes, don't be surprised when people don't take you seriously forecasters.  Nobody can plan around that.  Nobody knows what to do or how to react or how to plan.
 
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