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(Huffington Post)   Kansas House passes bill allowing open discrimination against gay people   (m.huffpost.com) divider line 41
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2014-02-12 01:49:19 PM  
4 votes:

tarkin1: You can not practice human sacrifice simply because you are practicing Incan High Priest.


Crap. There goes my plan for the weekend.
2014-02-12 01:26:53 PM  
4 votes:
"Discrimination is horrible. It's hurtful ... It has no place in civilized society, and that's precisely why we're moving this bill," Macheers said. "There have been times throughout history where people have been persecuted for their religious beliefs because they were unpopular. This bill provides a shield of protection for that."

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2014-02-12 03:43:04 PM  
3 votes:

Eddie Adams from Torrance: I'm getting a job as a county clerk in Kansas.

My religion prohibits having contact with bigots and morons.

I'll be in once a month to pickup my check.


shiat, that's what direct deposit is for.
2014-02-12 01:43:50 PM  
3 votes:
To my Kansas Representative,
     I see that you voted in favor of HB2453 a bill that is somewhat euphamistically called "An act concerning religious freedoms with respect to marriage." Not knowing you personally perhaps there's something I'm missing but I'm having a hard time figuring out what would posses you to support a bill that is so full of misleading language, bigotry and pig headed stupidity as HB2453. Please note that this is a legitimate request for clarification of your position(perhaps you were drunk at the time of the vote or suffered a recent head injury) and I look forward to your response.

sincerely,
      Voiceofreason01
2014-02-12 01:42:36 PM  
3 votes:
FTFB(ill):
treat any marriage, domestic partnership, civil union or similar arrangement as valid

Schweet.. I'm going to go open a wedding cake business in Topeka. You come to me and you are a white man and a white woman wanting to get married?

DENIED!

You're gay, bi, trans, mixed race couple. Come right in and have a seat. Here's a free sample!
2014-02-12 03:48:20 PM  
2 votes:

I drunk what: kansas is racist because it is afraid


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Q&D.
2014-02-12 03:38:19 PM  
2 votes:

Tomahawk513: I know right?  And they always got to eat around back.  "Around back" was always this magical land of mystery and adventure.  How come I was never invited?  What was back there?  Couches?  Bowling?  Jawbreaker dispensers?  A fountain of chocolate champagne?


Hey, baby, I can show you what's goin' on around back. Just slide a little closer and let me show you my fountain of chocolate champagne.
2014-02-12 02:29:31 PM  
2 votes:

Aquapope: Voiceofreason01: Aquapope: I'm a Kansan, born and raised for almost my whole life

I can smell the Johnson County on you from all the way over here.

You're from Wyandotte County, how can you smell anything over the meth fumes?


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2014-02-12 02:22:56 PM  
2 votes:

busy chillin': What war did we lose?


The Great War of Variances in Elevation
2014-02-12 02:16:48 PM  
2 votes:

Aquapope: I'm a Kansan, born and raised for almost my whole life.  I apologize.  I really do.  I can't explain Kansas.  I actually know the wife (dated her in high school) of one of the GOP bigwigs in the Kansas Government, and she used to be a very liberal person.  Then something happened to her...  Kansas has always been pretty Jesusy, but it's turned incredibly virulent in the last 10 years.

I live about 2 miles from this dirtbag Macheers, and I can attest that everybody around here is the wealthy-class, "I got mine, fark you", afraid-of-everything kind of GOP bastard.  Somehow that plutocrat idealology gets a religious nut sidecar and that's cool to these people.  It's turned the local school district from one of the best in the nation in the early 90s to just another mediocre, underfunded indoctrination machine for Koch clones.

I'm the only non-lunatic, non-religious person in my extended family except my lesbian cousin who moved to Oregon in the 70s and my father who has turned from the dark side in the last 10 years because of the growing evil of Brownbackistan.  Everybody else in my family lost their minds when a black guy was elected president.  Before you ask "Why don't you move", well, it's my home and I'd rather stay and try to fix it, or if I can't do that, try to protect my nieces and nephews from becoming pod-people.

Again, I'm so sorry for Kansas.  All I can say is please enjoy KU hoops as a very small, somewhat redeeming aspect of this rectum of a state.

/crying in the corner of a rectangular state...


Tell ya what, go slapping bumper stickers that say "Four More Years" with the O's replaced by Obama's campaign logo. Alternatively, you could slap rainbow bumper stickers or the equality bumper sticker (yellow "=" on blue background). Preferably do this to the pick-up trucks. Extra points if said trucks have a set of nutz hanging from the tow hitch.
2014-02-12 02:03:31 PM  
2 votes:
You hear that, Muslims? You can be completely free to live under the guidelines of Islam if you move to Kansas.
2014-02-12 01:56:12 PM  
2 votes:

Mrembo: tobcc: I use the same argument with coworkers/ family that scream about gay marriage will ruin the world.  If you dont want to get gay married, then dont.  If someone elses marriage affects your marriage than you got a an F-d up marriage.  I do wonder what will happen when this law gets thrown out, I would love to see a gay couple force Westboro Baptist to marry them.

What is their response to you? (Your coworkers / family).


I asked that of my pastor once.  He just made a pissed off face and walked away.

Him: "Allowing gays to change the definition of marriage will irreparably harm the institution of marriage!"
Me: "Really?  So you're saying that if two guys go down to the county courthouse and get hitched, you'll stop loving your wife?  You'd have to divorce her and leave the kids?  Tell you what, let me see your phone for a second, I think she needs to know just how small of a thread her relationship is hanging on by."
2014-02-12 01:48:35 PM  
2 votes:
If this passes, I wanna take up a collection.  I'm going open a storefront.  The sign in my window will say

"No Crosses.
Turbans OK."

I expect full support of my religious freedom.

/or, we can take bets on when an upstanding christian will gun me down in church
2014-02-12 01:42:32 PM  
2 votes:
Kansas has gay people?

pcj.typepad.com
2014-02-13 02:32:10 AM  
1 votes:

CheapEngineer: eagles95: So when is Brownback going to start putting out feelers he wants to be President in 16. He's doing a great job with this, no taxes on business, abortion. Plus living in a fly over state, he can say stupid crap and not worry about it. Kind of like Walker except without the permanent DERP look

[brownbackistan.files.wordpress.com image 160x207]


He looks tired.
2014-02-12 11:59:59 PM  
1 votes:

Aquapope: I'm a Kansan, born and raised for almost my whole life.  I apologize.  I really do.  I can't explain Kansas.


If you need to apologize, then I need to commit ritual suicide as I live in Oklahoma.
2014-02-12 08:41:12 PM  
1 votes:

thurstonxhowell: cchris_39: That seems like a pretty reasonable compromise.

Yeah. They'd like to burn gays at the stake, sane people would like to treat gays like they would treat any other people. Clearly, this is an example of a situation where both sides need to compromise.


Precisely. We slow roast the gays with a mild pepper blend. Compromise.
2014-02-12 04:53:07 PM  
1 votes:

Eskaminagaga: I don't see what everyone is up in arms about. This bill seems more like a way to avoid being sued by homosexual couples for not wanting to celebrate or aid their marrage in any way. The language in the bill specifically calls out:

Notwithstanding any other provision of law, no individual
or religious entity shall be required by any governmental entity to do any
of the following, if it would be contrary to the sincerely held religious
beliefs of the individual or religious entity regarding sex or gender
:
(a) Provide any services, accommodations, advantages, facilities,
goods, or privileges; provide counseling, adoption, foster care and other
social services; or provide employment or employment benefits, related to,
or related to the celebration of, any marriage, domestic partnership, civil
union or similar arrangement
;
(b) solemnize any marriage, domestic partnership, civil union or
similar arrangement; or
(c) treat any marriage, domestic partnership, civil union or similar
arrangement as valid.

It looks more like a reaction to the guy who refused to bake a cake for a same-sex couple getting married than a "green light" for discrimination against homosexuals.


Hypothetically, does this mean someone could discriminate against heterosexual marriages by claiming that their religion permits said discrimination?
2014-02-12 04:43:37 PM  
1 votes:

Theaetetus: cchris_39: If an individual employee objects on religious grounds, they will be assigned to employee who does not object and still get same services rendered to other Kansans.  That's all it says.

What if all employees in that office object?


It's a compromise, get it?
2014-02-12 04:40:13 PM  
1 votes:

Leishu: I will withhold comment until I can tell if you're just being a bit silly, as I am not familiar with your modus operandi.


Sometimes I like to make a point by arguing an absurd position. That was a (half-)sarcastic remark aimed at religious people - who, I should point out, used to count me as a member.

OP posted a well-known scenario - a religious pharmacist who refuses to dispense prescribed medication - and implied that it could spawn a messy court case over whether the pharmacist was fired for religious reasons (because they believe BC is wrong) or commercial (because they wouldn't do the job they were hired to do).

My sarcasm was in offering a "solution" to the problem - i.e., refusing to hire anyone who professes any recognizable ("organized" is the word I used) faith. Can't be a dick about your religion if'n you ain't got no religion anyhow.

And yes, it'd be illegal; though "the libs" that made it so in this case are whatever communist anti-American farkhead ninny pantywaist European-sounding tyrants that adopted the First Amendment.

// some of that last sentence was snark as well
2014-02-12 04:15:48 PM  
1 votes:

keylock71: How pathetic is it there are people here in favor of enabling bigotry among state and municipal workers and protecting them from any consequences of denying tax payer funded services to homosexuals?

...And calling it a "compromise"? Unreal.


Maybe we could only allow 3 out of 5 gay couples to marry.

We could call it the 60% Compromise. I don't think that's ever been used before.
2014-02-12 04:03:23 PM  
1 votes:

propasaurus: inglixthemad: So, because I'm a Catholic and hate Protestants I'm cool to discriminate against them.

Good to know.

No, that's discrimination. However, because I'm Baptist, I'm now free to discriminate against those pagan idolater Catholics.


Really, I'm not allowed to discriminate against heretics? Piffle I say, piffle. The law shall protect my conscience. No service for you heathen. Oh, and no marriage license if you've been married before! (well, ok, if you are a widow or widower, it's cool) You want a business application filed? Forget it you godless heathen, I refuse to help you. You want a construction permit you divorced harlot? Never! My conscience won't abide helping you heathens.
2014-02-12 03:52:29 PM  
1 votes:

suebhoney: So what happens when a newly married woman goes to the dmv, shows her marriage license but her new husband's name is something like Lindsey, which is a gender-neutral name, the dmv person is going to deny the new license?

LULZ


IT'S LINDSEY AND CHRIS, NOT LINDSAY AND KRIS!
2014-02-12 03:47:50 PM  
1 votes:

NkThrasher: "Do your damned job as prescribed by law and provide services to citizens, stop trying to pretend you can artificially filter it based on your own personal biases".


Oh I would never refuse to serve anyone.  Can you imagine the fun and after work jokes I'd be missing out on?

You'd grow old at the end of the line trying to get your paperwork right (this time) or resubmitting something that somehow can't be found (again).  The irony is that YOU would be the one begging for someone else to help you.

But you would be greeted by my smiling face every time, ready to serve you with all the competence and enthusiasm you would expect from an irate government employee.
2014-02-12 03:42:05 PM  
1 votes:

Serious Black: Tricky Chicken: Can we just tag and release all the people that live(ed) in Kansas please.  Just a tattoo on their forehead that says 'I chose to live in Kansas' or something like that.  That way if you ever see one speaking, you are forewarned.

I currently live in Lawrence and think this bill is abhorrent at best. Should I get stamped too?


No, we'd set up rigorous tests for intelligence, literacy, and Jesus-ness.  We might request that you sign our "I'm trying guys, really, but have you seen what I'm up against" documentation.  It comes with perks every time you vote.
2014-02-12 03:18:23 PM  
1 votes:

cchris_39: Ah, so even though your services are not at all compromised you would force others to disregard their own religious beliefs.

Thanks for letting us know your true feelings on the matter.


Just like black people had their own bathrooms, right? Nothing was compromised, and they had access to the same services as white people. I mean, how hard is it to find the Black Bathroom anyway? Weren't they usually right next to the White Bathrooms?
2014-02-12 02:22:11 PM  
1 votes:

Theaetetus: Rann Xerox: In the below photo, I will let the viewer determine which person represents the state of Kansas and which person represents Article Six of the United States Constitution (Clause 2), also known as the Supremacy Clause:

Neither?

Anti-discrimination law is up to the states under the 10th Amendment, subject to the requirements of equal protection and due process under the 14th Amendment. The Supremacy Clause is only tangentially related to this in saying "go look at Amendment 14". Before the 14th Amendment, states could - and did - have very different discrimination laws. In fact, many states had (gasp) state religions, which would violate the 1st Amendment if the Supremacy Clause was naively applied in such a manner as you suggest.


Oh great, a Tenther.
2014-02-12 02:13:53 PM  
1 votes:
I'm a Kansan, born and raised for almost my whole life.  I apologize.  I really do.  I can't explain Kansas.  I actually know the wife (dated her in high school) of one of the GOP bigwigs in the Kansas Government, and she used to be a very liberal person.  Then something happened to her...  Kansas has always been pretty Jesusy, but it's turned incredibly virulent in the last 10 years.

I live about 2 miles from this dirtbag Macheers, and I can attest that everybody around here is the wealthy-class, "I got mine, fark you", afraid-of-everything kind of GOP bastard.  Somehow that plutocrat idealology gets a religious nut sidecar and that's cool to these people.  It's turned the local school district from one of the best in the nation in the early 90s to just another mediocre, underfunded indoctrination machine for Koch clones.

I'm the only non-lunatic, non-religious person in my extended family except my lesbian cousin who moved to Oregon in the 70s and my father who has turned from the dark side in the last 10 years because of the growing evil of Brownbackistan.  Everybody else in my family lost their minds when a black guy was elected president.  Before you ask "Why don't you move", well, it's my home and I'd rather stay and try to fix it, or if I can't do that, try to protect my nieces and nephews from becoming pod-people.

Again, I'm so sorry for Kansas.  All I can say is please enjoy KU hoops as a very small, somewhat redeeming aspect of this rectum of a state.

/crying in the corner of a rectangular state...
2014-02-12 02:08:22 PM  
1 votes:

Dr Dreidel: Let's ask an actual Old Testament believer (and religious scholar) for his opinion: "Bashing Gays is Not 'Religion'".

// not like they'll take a Jew's word for it
// they don't even listen to Jesus anymore


Well, of course not. He was a Jew after-all. Why would they listen to him?
2014-02-12 02:05:21 PM  
1 votes:

HMS_Blinkin: Bloody William: "Discrimination is horrible. It's hurtful ... It has no place in civilized society, and that's precisely why we're moving this bill," Macheers said. "There have been times throughout history where people have been persecuted for their religious beliefs because they were unpopular. This bill provides a shield of protection for that."

I... I hate you, Mr. Macheers. I've never met you, but I actually have some small spark of hate for the sentiment and hypocrisy you display.

Small?  SMALL spark of hate?  You're a better person than me, apparently.

Spark

of hate?  I'd dowse him in napalm and use that spark to ignite him.  I am, however, compassionate enough to piss on him while he's on fire.

/(I know.  That's why I used napalm)
2014-02-12 02:04:31 PM  
1 votes:
When they find out that Muslins can use this law too it'll be repealed faster than you can say "Admiral Ackbar".
2014-02-12 02:03:19 PM  
1 votes:

Zeb Hesselgresser: Kansas has gay people?

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The closet is behind the photographer.
2014-02-12 01:59:57 PM  
1 votes:

dr_blasto:
If so, BEAT IT, YOU RELIGIOUS DIRTBAGS THIS IS THE CHURCH OF ATHEISM!!!one!!


See, there you go...you and your godless athiest agenda, fueled by big-money athiest causes. We, the people of Kansas, are going to write a new bill that FORCES you to give us services. Our church marriage is right and we will not be denied our rights!
2014-02-12 01:58:22 PM  
1 votes:
This will get smacked down in the courts. I hope their peepees get smacked so hard that they never try anything like this again.
2014-02-12 01:56:44 PM  
1 votes:

Pants full of macaroni!!: Just f**king secede already.


fark that... These shiatkickers already lost a war over that. They're free to go anytime they feel like it, but they don't get to take the infrastructure and resources with them. I'm sure there are several flights a day leaving Kansas heading towards another country. : )

Regarding this law, what farking joke. These bigots are too stupid to realize they lost this debate. This law won't stand up to the first challenge.
2014-02-12 01:44:31 PM  
1 votes:
Religious freedom allows you to practice your RELIGION.

It does NOT allow you to break any law you want and claim "it's part of my religion".

If you want to claim an activity is protected by religious rights you need to:

1) Prove that your religion specifically REQUIRES you to do the specific activity.  Jews can't shoot all pigs on sight simple because we don't eat pork.  The religion requires us to avoid eating pork, not kill all pigs.
2)  Prove that your religion held that belief BEFORE the law outlawing the activity was created or failing that, that the religion was created without any attempt to subvert the law.
3) Also prove that your religious activity does NOT directly impinge on the rights of others.  You can not practice human sacrifice simply because you are practicing Incan High Priest.
2014-02-12 01:41:53 PM  
1 votes:

Bloody William: "Discrimination is horrible. It's hurtful ... It has no place in civilized society, and that's precisely why we're moving this bill," Macheers said. "There have been times throughout history where people have been persecuted for their religious beliefs because they were unpopular. This bill provides a shield of protection for that."

I... I hate you, Mr. Macheers. I've never met you, but I actually have some small spark of hate for the sentiment and hypocrisy you display.


Small?  SMALL spark of hate?  You're a better person than me, apparently.
2014-02-12 01:40:38 PM  
1 votes:
"Largely backed by Republican state lawmakers"

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2014-02-12 01:39:53 PM  
1 votes:
Maybe this would have been a good bill to vote for.  Hear me out.  It singles out one group of people for special discriminating treatment, meaning it will end up in a supreme court, state probably in this case, that will throw it out and possible some other anti-gay laws as well.

nope, can't go any further, broke my brainimg.fark.net
2014-02-12 01:38:15 PM  
1 votes:
So, because I'm a Catholic and hate Protestants I'm cool to discriminate against them.

Good to know.
2014-02-12 01:38:13 PM  
1 votes:
I use the same argument with coworkers/ family that scream about gay marriage will ruin the world.  If you dont want to get gay married, then dont.  If someone elses marriage affects your marriage than you got a an F-d up marriage.  I do wonder what will happen when this law gets thrown out, I would love to see a gay couple force Westboro Baptist to marry them.
 
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