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2014-02-12 02:09:01 PM
It amazes me how close geographically Kansas is to Colorado and at the same time how far apart we are.

More former Cali folk here I bet.
 
2014-02-12 02:09:12 PM
So now they support sharia law?
 
2014-02-12 02:09:49 PM
Clearly the CRA discriminated against bigots.
 
2014-02-12 02:09:59 PM

busy chillin': keylock71: Pants full of macaroni!!: Just f**king secede already.

fark that... These shiatkickers already lost a war over that.


What war did we lose?


Sorry, referring to shiatkickers wanting to secede, not Kansas in particular, which I do realize was part of the Union.

'Course, if my memory serves me correctly, there were quite a few Folk who did want to secede in Kansas.

Anyway, my point was, the secessionists lost, and modern secessionists are free to leave anytime they choose.
 
2014-02-12 02:10:05 PM
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2014-02-12 02:10:25 PM
FTA:  While government agencies would still be mandated to render services to Kansans, individual clerks would be empowered to refuse assistance to individuals that violated their religious beliefs on marriage.

There are plenty of people who will support this. I was almost denied a fishing license in Augusta, Kansas once because my last name wasn't the same as my husband's.

If I had the money (because I sure won't make any doing this), it would be fun to move back, open a restaurant, and put a sign in the window saying "Only serving Mormon transgender mixed-race Democrats".  That ought to piss off pretty much every demographic in Kansas.
 
2014-02-12 02:10:54 PM

Stone Meadow: I agree, but I also wonder if this analysis isn't missing the point, which is that 'tards like this guy aren't proposing the bill with the serious expectation that it be passed and enacted, but rather that he be seen to be pandering to his target audience's prejudices.


It's more than that. This didn't just get brought up in committee where people laughed and said "This will make you look good Bob, but we really can't vote/pass this because it's unconstitutional. But good show for the rubes". It passed the actual House in Kansas. Now it's on to the Senate there.
 
2014-02-12 02:10:57 PM
hmm... I accidently something there in that last post so hard I don't even know what I accidented.
 
2014-02-12 02:11:01 PM

Mrembo: Voiceofreason01: Mrembo:Good luck with that.
I could head over to Topeka and kick him in the balls if you think that would work better

It would.

/Can we give you a list of other people who need their balls kicked??? (I'm looking at you Rand Paul).


Here's the roll call for the Kansas House for the bill in question. Everybody who voted "Yea" can be on the short list for a swift kick to the genitals.
 
2014-02-12 02:11:56 PM

tobcc: Mrembo: tobcc: I use the same argument with coworkers/ family that scream about gay marriage will ruin the world.  If you dont want to get gay married, then dont.  If someone elses marriage affects your marriage than you got a an F-d up marriage.  I do wonder what will happen when this law gets thrown out, I would love to see a gay couple force Westboro Baptist to marry them.

What is their response to you? (Your coworkers / family).

Usually something on the lines that I am *just* wrong, cause they said so.  But a lady at work realized she was just being bigoted and now doesn't say anything.


At least you reached one person. Countless more to go.
 
2014-02-12 02:11:57 PM
In the below photo, I will let the viewer determine which person represents the state of Kansas and which person represents Article Six of the United States Constitution (Clause 2), also known as the Supremacy Clause:

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2014-02-12 02:12:12 PM

Karac: Theaetetus: kidgenius: FTFB(ill):
treat any marriage, domestic partnership, civil union or similar arrangement as valid

Schweet.. I'm going to go open a wedding cake business in Topeka. You come to me and you are a white man and a white woman wanting to get married?

DENIED!

Technically, it's possible... From the bill:
Notwithstanding any other provision of law, no individual 
or religious entity shall be required by any governmental entity to do any 
of the following, if it would be contrary to the sincerely held religious 
beliefs of the individual or religious entity regarding sex or gender...
(c) treat any marriage, domestic partnership, civil union or similar 
arrangement as valid.

You'd have to argue that your sincerely held religious beliefs were that heterosexual marriages were an abomination. Or, I suppose, that you believe in egalitarian marriages, and so a traditional marriage of a patriarch and chattel would be a sin, and therefore refuse to serve such people. I think the Unitarians could go for that.

That's not hard.  It says 'sincerely' held religious beliefs, not actual tenets of your faith.  It's written that way specifically so that bigots won't have to actually read their bibles enough to be able to point out where it says gays can't get married if they're sued - they just have to believe that gays should get married.  Because Jebus.

As an example: Kidgenius could say that it is his sincerely held belief that the heterosexual population of Kansas should all be given a good smiting for being bad neighbors (Sodom wasn't destroyed for sodomy, but because its population wanted to rape tourists).  As such, he cannot solemnize marriages for people who are so clearly behaving against the will of God.  Just as a Catholic church could refuse to marry two Protestants for not sharing the faith.


But, it also says that the action must be contrary to a sincerely held belief  regarding sex or gender. Being a bad neighbor isn't related to sex or gender. I think my proposed examples were better, since they're directly based on sex or gender.

You are correct though that you don't need to demonstrate that it's a tenet of the religion. If you have a sincerely held belief that patriarchal relationships are sinful, then you could refuse service, without needing to point to where in your religious book it says that. From the EEOC:
Factors that - either alone or in combination - might undermine an employee's assertion that he sincerely holds the religious belief at issue include:
whether the employee has behaved in a manner markedly inconsistent with the professed belief;
whether the accommodation sought is a particularly desirable benefit that is likely to be sought for secular reasons;
whether the timing of the request renders it suspect (e.g., it follows an earlier request by the employee for the same benefit for secular reasons); and
whether the employer otherwise has reason to believe the accommodation is not sought for religious reasons. However, none of these factors is dispositive.
 
2014-02-12 02:12:12 PM

exick: granting public and private employees the right to deny services, including unemployment benefits and foster care, to same-sex couples on the basis of religious freedom.

O_o


Came into the thread to note this exact thing. WHAT THE ACTUAL FARK? What's next, getting denied a driver's license, building permit or voter registration 'cause you're one of them gay-o-sexuals?

Was the Sick tag too sick to show up for work today?
 
2014-02-12 02:12:53 PM

TerminalEchoes: Meh. Probably not the greatest bill ever but I can see at least one point behind it. It will protect people like those wedding cake makers who made the news several months ago. I'm not a hard core Bible thumper nor am I an overzealous gay rights activist but no one should be forced or legally compelled to give service to another person. Sorry if that ruffles feathers.


"No Color" is OK then? "You" are not welcome is an acceptable social norm, "Your type" not welcome is not.
 
2014-02-12 02:13:00 PM

jst3p: It amazes me how close geographically Kansas is to Colorado and at the same time how far apart we are.

More former Cali folk here I bet.


It has nothing to do with the California transplants and everything to do with the fact that there is absolutely fark all to do in Kansas. It's flat, there's dirt. Rogering your cousin and shooting at cans is the best most people can hope for out there, over 60% of the state doesn't even have internet better than dialup.

Very easy to preach to a captive audience when the Sunday sermon is the most exciting part of the week.
 
2014-02-12 02:13:53 PM
I'm a Kansan, born and raised for almost my whole life.  I apologize.  I really do.  I can't explain Kansas.  I actually know the wife (dated her in high school) of one of the GOP bigwigs in the Kansas Government, and she used to be a very liberal person.  Then something happened to her...  Kansas has always been pretty Jesusy, but it's turned incredibly virulent in the last 10 years.

I live about 2 miles from this dirtbag Macheers, and I can attest that everybody around here is the wealthy-class, "I got mine, fark you", afraid-of-everything kind of GOP bastard.  Somehow that plutocrat idealology gets a religious nut sidecar and that's cool to these people.  It's turned the local school district from one of the best in the nation in the early 90s to just another mediocre, underfunded indoctrination machine for Koch clones.

I'm the only non-lunatic, non-religious person in my extended family except my lesbian cousin who moved to Oregon in the 70s and my father who has turned from the dark side in the last 10 years because of the growing evil of Brownbackistan.  Everybody else in my family lost their minds when a black guy was elected president.  Before you ask "Why don't you move", well, it's my home and I'd rather stay and try to fix it, or if I can't do that, try to protect my nieces and nephews from becoming pod-people.

Again, I'm so sorry for Kansas.  All I can say is please enjoy KU hoops as a very small, somewhat redeeming aspect of this rectum of a state.

/crying in the corner of a rectangular state...
 
2014-02-12 02:14:07 PM
Whoops, no linky. In plaintext: http://mediamatters.org/blog/2014/02/04/orthodox-rabbi-on-fox-news-bas hing-gays-is-not/197926
 
2014-02-12 02:14:10 PM

TheNewJesus: God damn these people waste a lot of time and effort pushing their bigotry...


And money.  All from "small-government, fiscal conservatives".
 
2014-02-12 02:14:21 PM

kidgenius: Stone Meadow: I agree, but I also wonder if this analysis isn't missing the point, which is that 'tards like this guy aren't proposing the bill with the serious expectation that it be passed and enacted, but rather that he be seen to be pandering to his target audience's prejudices.

It's more than that. This didn't just get brought up in committee where people laughed and said "This will make you look good Bob, but we really can't vote/pass this because it's unconstitutional. But good show for the rubes". It passed the actual House in Kansas. Now it's on to the Senate there.


Point conceded. After all, this IS Brownbackistan we're talking about.
 
2014-02-12 02:14:58 PM
so the USA is about as free and progressive as Russia?

hooray.
 
2014-02-12 02:15:25 PM

Aquapope: I'm a Kansan, born and raised for almost my whole life


I can smell the Johnson County on you from all the way over here.
 
2014-02-12 02:15:59 PM

Rann Xerox: In the below photo, I will let the viewer determine which person represents the state of Kansas and which person represents Article Six of the United States Constitution (Clause 2), also known as the Supremacy Clause:


Neither?

Anti-discrimination law is up to the states under the 10th Amendment, subject to the requirements of equal protection and due process under the 14th Amendment. The Supremacy Clause is only tangentially related to this in saying "go look at Amendment 14". Before the 14th Amendment, states could - and did - have very different discrimination laws. In fact, many states had (gasp) state religions, which would violate the 1st Amendment if the Supremacy Clause was naively applied in such a manner as you suggest.
 
2014-02-12 02:16:20 PM
The Kansas state House advanced a bill on Tuesday aimed at granting public and private employees the right to deny services, including unemployment benefits and foster care, to same-sex couples on the basis of religious freedom.

Since when are Govt services a part of religious freedom?
 
2014-02-12 02:16:48 PM

Aquapope: I'm a Kansan, born and raised for almost my whole life.  I apologize.  I really do.  I can't explain Kansas.  I actually know the wife (dated her in high school) of one of the GOP bigwigs in the Kansas Government, and she used to be a very liberal person.  Then something happened to her...  Kansas has always been pretty Jesusy, but it's turned incredibly virulent in the last 10 years.

I live about 2 miles from this dirtbag Macheers, and I can attest that everybody around here is the wealthy-class, "I got mine, fark you", afraid-of-everything kind of GOP bastard.  Somehow that plutocrat idealology gets a religious nut sidecar and that's cool to these people.  It's turned the local school district from one of the best in the nation in the early 90s to just another mediocre, underfunded indoctrination machine for Koch clones.

I'm the only non-lunatic, non-religious person in my extended family except my lesbian cousin who moved to Oregon in the 70s and my father who has turned from the dark side in the last 10 years because of the growing evil of Brownbackistan.  Everybody else in my family lost their minds when a black guy was elected president.  Before you ask "Why don't you move", well, it's my home and I'd rather stay and try to fix it, or if I can't do that, try to protect my nieces and nephews from becoming pod-people.

Again, I'm so sorry for Kansas.  All I can say is please enjoy KU hoops as a very small, somewhat redeeming aspect of this rectum of a state.

/crying in the corner of a rectangular state...


Tell ya what, go slapping bumper stickers that say "Four More Years" with the O's replaced by Obama's campaign logo. Alternatively, you could slap rainbow bumper stickers or the equality bumper sticker (yellow "=" on blue background). Preferably do this to the pick-up trucks. Extra points if said trucks have a set of nutz hanging from the tow hitch.
 
2014-02-12 02:19:19 PM

Bermuda59: Since when are Govt services a part of religious freedom?


See, people have to actually provide the govt service. And those people have religious freedoms. Therefore, ex post facto nauseum, those people can't help "teh gayz" if it is against their freedom of religious expression.

or something
 
2014-02-12 02:19:35 PM

Bermuda59: The Kansas state House advanced a bill on Tuesday aimed at granting public and private employees the right to deny services, including unemployment benefits and foster care, to same-sex couples on the basis of religious freedom.

Since when are Govt services a part of religious freedom?


Government services aren't a part of religious freedom. That's a silly thing to believe. Where would you even get that idea?

Looking down your nose at others, happily grinding them under your bootheels (well, until they get "saved", anyway) - THAT's some of that good, old-time religious freedom, and exactly what was meant by "care for the stranger in your midst" and "love the sinner, hate the sin".
 
2014-02-12 02:20:23 PM

kidgenius: Aquapope: I'm a Kansan, born and raised for almost my whole life.  I apologize.  I really do.  I can't explain Kansas.  I actually know the wife (dated her in high school) of one of the GOP bigwigs in the Kansas Government, and she used to be a very liberal person.  Then something happened to her...  Kansas has always been pretty Jesusy, but it's turned incredibly virulent in the last 10 years.

I live about 2 miles from this dirtbag Macheers, and I can attest that everybody around here is the wealthy-class, "I got mine, fark you", afraid-of-everything kind of GOP bastard.  Somehow that plutocrat idealology gets a religious nut sidecar and that's cool to these people.  It's turned the local school district from one of the best in the nation in the early 90s to just another mediocre, underfunded indoctrination machine for Koch clones.

I'm the only non-lunatic, non-religious person in my extended family except my lesbian cousin who moved to Oregon in the 70s and my father who has turned from the dark side in the last 10 years because of the growing evil of Brownbackistan.  Everybody else in my family lost their minds when a black guy was elected president.  Before you ask "Why don't you move", well, it's my home and I'd rather stay and try to fix it, or if I can't do that, try to protect my nieces and nephews from becoming pod-people.

Again, I'm so sorry for Kansas.  All I can say is please enjoy KU hoops as a very small, somewhat redeeming aspect of this rectum of a state.

/crying in the corner of a rectangular state...

Tell ya what, go slapping bumper stickers that say "Four More Years" with the O's replaced by Obama's campaign logo. Alternatively, you could slap rainbow bumper stickers or the equality bumper sticker (yellow "=" on blue background). Preferably do this to the pick-up trucks. Extra points if said trucks have a set of nutz hanging from the tow hitch.


He better do it at night and decked out in black. That very well could get you shot in Kansas. The bastard would probably get away with it, too. Jury might decide to go all jury nullification even.
 
2014-02-12 02:21:03 PM

keylock71: busy chillin': keylock71: Pants full of macaroni!!: Just f**king secede already.

fark that... These shiatkickers already lost a war over that.


What war did we lose?

Sorry, referring to shiatkickers wanting to secede, not Kansas in particular, which I do realize was part of the Union.

'Course, if my memory serves me correctly, there were quite a few Folk who did want to secede in Kansas.

Anyway, my point was, the secessionists lost, and modern secessionists are free to leave anytime they choose.


okay cool. No sweat.
 
2014-02-12 02:22:11 PM

Theaetetus: Rann Xerox: In the below photo, I will let the viewer determine which person represents the state of Kansas and which person represents Article Six of the United States Constitution (Clause 2), also known as the Supremacy Clause:

Neither?

Anti-discrimination law is up to the states under the 10th Amendment, subject to the requirements of equal protection and due process under the 14th Amendment. The Supremacy Clause is only tangentially related to this in saying "go look at Amendment 14". Before the 14th Amendment, states could - and did - have very different discrimination laws. In fact, many states had (gasp) state religions, which would violate the 1st Amendment if the Supremacy Clause was naively applied in such a manner as you suggest.


Oh great, a Tenther.
 
2014-02-12 02:22:22 PM

Voiceofreason01: Aquapope: I'm a Kansan, born and raised for almost my whole life

I can smell the Johnson County on you from all the way over here.


You're from Wyandotte County, how can you smell anything over the meth fumes?
 
2014-02-12 02:22:56 PM

busy chillin': What war did we lose?


The Great War of Variances in Elevation
 
2014-02-12 02:24:17 PM

iq_in_binary: kidgenius: Aquapope: I'm a Kansan, born and raised for almost my whole life.  I apologize.  I really do.  I can't explain Kansas.  I actually know the wife (dated her in high school) of one of the GOP bigwigs in the Kansas Government, and she used to be a very liberal person.  Then something happened to her...  Kansas has always been pretty Jesusy, but it's turned incredibly virulent in the last 10 years.

I live about 2 miles from this dirtbag Macheers, and I can attest that everybody around here is the wealthy-class, "I got mine, fark you", afraid-of-everything kind of GOP bastard.  Somehow that plutocrat idealology gets a religious nut sidecar and that's cool to these people.  It's turned the local school district from one of the best in the nation in the early 90s to just another mediocre, underfunded indoctrination machine for Koch clones.

I'm the only non-lunatic, non-religious person in my extended family except my lesbian cousin who moved to Oregon in the 70s and my father who has turned from the dark side in the last 10 years because of the growing evil of Brownbackistan.  Everybody else in my family lost their minds when a black guy was elected president.  Before you ask "Why don't you move", well, it's my home and I'd rather stay and try to fix it, or if I can't do that, try to protect my nieces and nephews from becoming pod-people.

Again, I'm so sorry for Kansas.  All I can say is please enjoy KU hoops as a very small, somewhat redeeming aspect of this rectum of a state.

/crying in the corner of a rectangular state...

Tell ya what, go slapping bumper stickers that say "Four More Years" with the O's replaced by Obama's campaign logo. Alternatively, you could slap rainbow bumper stickers or the equality bumper sticker (yellow "=" on blue background). Preferably do this to the pick-up trucks. Extra points if said trucks have a set of nutz hanging from the tow hitch.

He better do it at night and decked out in black. That very well could get you shot in ...


If I did it at night, with a burning torch, and dressed in white with a pointy mask on, somebody would probably buy me a beer.
 
2014-02-12 02:24:49 PM
FTA -

While government agencies would still be mandated to render services to Kansans, individual clerks would be empowered to refuse assistance to individuals that violated their religious beliefs on marriage.

If an individual employee objects on religious grounds, they will be assigned to employee who does not object and still get same services rendered to other Kansans.  That's all it says.

Nothing in the bill to limit or deny services to gay couples.

That seems like a pretty reasonable compromise.
 
2014-02-12 02:25:03 PM

scottydoesntknow: TerminalEchoes: Meh. Probably not the greatest bill ever but I can see at least one point behind it. It will protect people like those wedding cake makers who made the news several months ago. I'm not a hard core Bible thumper nor am I an overzealous gay rights activist but no one should be forced or legally compelled to give service to another person. Sorry if that ruffles feathers.

Christ we already had this conversation last week with the guy who refuses to serve ni-*DONG*, f*gs, freaks, cripples, and anyone else he doesn't like

IT'S AGAINST THE LAW. If you are a business that is open to the general public, you don't get to decide not to serve someone simply because they're gay/black/asian/young/old/crippled/etc.

Would you be making that same statement if the wedding cake company (who is NOT a religious institution) decided to not serve a black or interracial couple getting married?


Just as long as we don't have to serve the Irish.
 
2014-02-12 02:25:10 PM

Aquapope: Voiceofreason01: Aquapope: I'm a Kansan, born and raised for almost my whole life

I can smell the Johnson County on you from all the way over here.

You're from Wyandotte County, how can you smell anything over the meth fumes?


Lol, I'm from Johnson County too, it's just easier to say I'm from Kansas City then to explain which suburb I'm currently living in. I feel your pain.
 
2014-02-12 02:25:27 PM

TerminalEchoes: Meh. Probably not the greatest bill ever but I can see at least one point behind it. It will protect people like those wedding cake makers who made the news several months ago. I'm not a hard core Bible thumper nor am I an overzealous gay rights activist but no one should be forced or legally compelled to give service to another person. Sorry if that ruffles feathers.


I have you farkied as a racist who thinks it should be legal to refuse business to black people.  You're either trolling or you're just hoping that laws like this will eventually come around to the minorities you REALLY want to discriminate against.
 
2014-02-12 02:25:59 PM
And people still think GMO corn is safe. Allow me to present Kansas.
 
2014-02-12 02:26:11 PM

cchris_39: That seems like a pretty reasonable compromise.


no.
 
2014-02-12 02:26:39 PM

cchris_39: FTA -

While government agencies would still be mandated to render services to Kansans, individual clerks would be empowered to refuse assistance to individuals that violated their religious beliefs on marriage.

If an individual employee objects on religious grounds, they will be assigned to employee who does not object and still get same services rendered to other Kansans.  That's all it says.

Nothing in the bill to limit or deny services to gay couples.

That seems like a pretty reasonable compromise.


If there's anything a county with 1000 people in it has, it's an excess of county clerks and social workers just sitting around.
 
2014-02-12 02:26:52 PM
Tuber-conservatives!

/I got nothin'
 
2014-02-12 02:27:40 PM

cchris_39: FTA -

While government agencies would still be mandated to render services to Kansans, individual clerks would be empowered to refuse assistance to individuals that violated their religious beliefs on marriage.

If an individual employee objects on religious grounds, they will be assigned to employee who does not object and still get same services rendered to other Kansans.  That's all it says.

Nothing in the bill to limit or deny services to gay couples.

That seems like a pretty reasonable compromise.


And if you are in the middle of bum-fark nowhere and you have one sheriff and two deputies that make up the local police department and they are all bigoted a-holes that dont' want to help you....what are you going to do?
 
2014-02-12 02:27:47 PM
Why stop at same sex couples? Why not allow discrimination against any "marriage" that doesn't conform to a particular set of religious principles.

If it's OK for an evangelical Christian to refuse to serve a gay couple, it should be OK for a devout Catholic to refuse to serve a hetero couple that was married in a civil ceremony.

Why is Kansas discriminating against devout Catholics?
 
2014-02-12 02:28:04 PM

TerminalEchoes: Meh. Probably not the greatest bill ever but I can see at least one point behind it. It will protect people like those wedding cake makers who made the news several months ago. I'm not a hard core Bible thumper nor am I an overzealous gay rights activist but no one should be forced or legally compelled to give service to another person. Sorry if that ruffles feathers.


If those cake makers had any sense at all, they would have just said, 'Sorry, our schedule is already full that weekend'.

If they were really smart, they would talk with a competitor and send the gay clients that way. Like 'hey, we might be booked up that weekend, but check QueerCakes to see if they are available, here's their card'
 
2014-02-12 02:28:06 PM

cchris_39: If an individual employee objects on religious grounds, they will be assigned to employee who does not object and still get same services rendered to other Kansans.  That's all it says.


What if all employees in that office object?
 
2014-02-12 02:28:14 PM

BSABSVR: busy chillin': What war did we lose?

The Great War of Variances in Elevation


Yes, true, but Manhattan is pretty with it's rolling hills and Lawrence has a couple hills.

Funny story, my neighbor had his grandson up from Florida and they were riding around and he thought it was amazing. "Grandpa, can we go down that road with the hills again?!?!"

Still makes me laugh.
 
2014-02-12 02:28:17 PM

TerminalEchoes: Meh. Probably not the greatest bill ever but I can see at least one point behind it. It will protect people like those wedding cake makers who made the news several months ago. I'm not a hard core Bible thumper nor am I an overzealous gay rights activist but no one should be forced or legally compelled to give service to another person. Sorry if that ruffles feathers.


Sundown States.  Coming soon to the Republican platform.
 
2014-02-12 02:29:31 PM

Aquapope: Voiceofreason01: Aquapope: I'm a Kansan, born and raised for almost my whole life

I can smell the Johnson County on you from all the way over here.

You're from Wyandotte County, how can you smell anything over the meth fumes?


1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-02-12 02:29:54 PM

ladodger34: TerminalEchoes: Meh. Probably not the greatest bill ever but I can see at least one point behind it. It will protect people like those wedding cake makers who made the news several months ago. I'm not a hard core Bible thumper nor am I an overzealous gay rights activist but no one should be forced or legally compelled to give service to another person. Sorry if that ruffles feathers.

If those cake makers had any sense at all, they would have just said, 'Sorry, our schedule is already full that weekend'.

If they were really smart, they would talk with a competitor and send the gay clients that way. Like 'hey, we might be booked up that weekend, but check QueerCakes to see if they are available, here's their card'


But how would we know that they don't approve of gay marriage???

/Imho, it wasn't about "being smart", it was about "being martyrs"...
 
2014-02-12 02:30:33 PM

Aquapope: Voiceofreason01: Aquapope: I'm a Kansan, born and raised for almost my whole life

I can smell the Johnson County on you from all the way over here.

You're from Wyandotte County, how can you smell anything over the meth fumes?


I'm in Lawrence. I can barely see you guys fighting through all this weed smoke.
 
2014-02-12 02:30:38 PM

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It's true. Most Southern blacks don't want integration.Because if things integrated they'd have to associate with the dumb-assed, inbred, peckerwoods from the article.


They'd rather mingle with a better class of people.
 
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