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(Washington Post)   The good thing about cutting off federal unemployment benefits is that economists can collect more data on the "Kramer Effect": How people with no clear means of income live   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 25
    More: Misc, unemployment benefits, economists, Capitol Heights, NELP, Alan Krueger, William McKinley, incomes, Cosmo Kramer  
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2014-02-12 02:13:52 PM
4 votes:
With Darren's help, he'll get that chicken!
2014-02-12 03:19:47 PM
3 votes:

Thunderpipes: Bet it pays better than unemployment. Bet it keeps them active. Bet it doesn't cost taxpayers as much. Bet it makes them better people.


Are there no prisons?  Are there no workhouses?
2014-02-12 02:47:53 PM
3 votes:
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Friend of mine posted this on facebook.

Because obviously unemployed people drinking on the stoop are a big voting demographic.
2014-02-12 02:37:41 PM
3 votes:

2KanZam: I used to dismiss the idea that these extended unemployement benefits keep people from working by allowing them to live off the gov't.

But I have a few (lazy) acquaintences whom have been laid off for some time now and "couldn't find a job anywhere"...well as soon as their benefits were cut recently, *POOF* they suddenly both came up with jobs!

Huh, whodathunkit? (seriously, I had no idea some people really were THAT lazy)


What a compelling anecdote. I'm voting for Reagan!
2014-02-12 02:19:41 PM
3 votes:
How people with no clear means of income live

Oh... they get by.
2014-02-12 02:12:25 PM
3 votes:
By ranting at minorities?
2014-02-12 06:14:34 PM
2 votes:

bikerific: Because obviously unemployed people drinking on the stoop are a big voting demographic.


I assumed she meant congress.
2014-02-12 05:00:25 PM
2 votes:

PunkTiger: I've been out of work for 4 years. Two of those years, I couldn't really search for work seriously because I was on dialysis (I had been since 2005 -- don't fark up your kidneys, folks, that crap ain't fun). The third year (2012), I was recovering from a kidney transplant. Last year (and into this year), I've been actively searching for employment and finding very little available. After I stopped receiving unemployment benefits (I took myself off of them because I couldn't, in good faith, keep looking for work -- being on dialysis and all that), I've been living partly on disability benefits (that will end February 2015), a severance payment from my old job, and my life savings.

I'm 50 years old and facing an uphill battle in the job market. I'm not looking for handouts, I'm looking for a job that pays above minimum wage so I can get back on my feet again.

All that being said, I have a hard time believing that the federal government actually gives a leaping G-d damn for people who are still unemployed after their benefits have run out.


Whiner.When i was on dialysis I paved roads from noon till 4AM and coached Little League and Pop Warner on weekends. I also volunteered a a UPS warehouse from 5AM to 10AM because I was making too much money paving roads and felt that I had to give back to the business community. I'd tell you about climbing Mt Washington with two broken legs and intubated oxygen but you probably are already ashamed after reading about my stick-to-it-ivness and gumption so i won't
2014-02-12 03:56:58 PM
2 votes:

meat0918: YixilTesiphon: meat0918: I thought they had shown the jobs they take are below their skill level jobs that they only take because they are desperate?

Is the argument that it's better in aggregate to have people idle than to take productive, if inferior, jobs?

It's better to have people take jobs according to their skill level, and failing that, keep them from hitting complete bottom so we don't destabilize society through rising crime and hopelessness.

If you have high skilled people in low skilled jobs, those low skilled people have no jobs.  A guy with an engineering degree shouldn't be working as a burger flipper.

Also, raise the minimum wage if you're expecting people that made $30 hour before losing their jobs to take a minimum wage one to make ends meet, assuming that McDonald's would hire him in the first place.


So, you cannot look for a job while you have one? You do realize, employers don't like people who spend long times on unemployment?

Stay classy, libs. But heh, now you can focus on your painting, according to Pelosi.
2014-02-12 03:51:22 PM
2 votes:

tlars699: durbnpoisn: DarkSoulNoHope: 2KanZam: I used to dismiss the idea that these extended unemployement benefits keep people from working by allowing them to live off the gov't.

But I have a few (lazy) acquaintences whom have been laid off for some time now and "couldn't find a job anywhere"...well as soon as their benefits were cut recently, *POOF* they suddenly both came up with jobs!

Huh, whodathunkit? (seriously, I had no idea some people really were THAT lazy)

Yay! Jobs! Now, question, these fictional acquaintances of yours, did they find a job so fast in pay comparable or better than their old job or did they get a job so low in pay that it won't even cover basic needs?

Pretty much, this.

I have spent my share of time being between contracts, and having to collect unemployment benefits.  My benefits were paying the max, which translates in real-world money to about $15/hr.  So, while looking for work, I couldn't take a position that would pay me less than that, because I would litterally be pissing away time that could be used to find a job that paid more than my benefits.

I don't know that that is true for everyone.  But, that was the situation for me.

You know you can't refuse work while on unemplyoment, legally speaking, right?

I'm assuming you mean you can't waste your time looking for lower paying jobs...

But I have to point this out: what gets you a job the fastest? Getting ANY other job, and making a good reference for yourself.


I can see it now. ..

"Well yes I have lots of experience in improving efficiency through leveraging technology.  Call my Reference Bill Swanson, he'll tell you how I used noise cancelling headphones to shut out distractions and improve my best time for constructing a bag mac by a whole second."

"At my current job I answer phone calls from idiot parents who are upset about the costs of their kids text messaging constantly despite numerous noted warnings from other sales reps that they should either block messaging or get a plan that includes messaging so I think i'm fully capable of negotiating the new union contract for your company."
2014-02-12 03:02:34 PM
2 votes:

All2morrowsparTs: Smeggy Smurf: If you don't have the government enabling you to sit on the couch you'll do what your grandparents did and move to where the work is.  I hear the Dakotas and Texas are hiring.

You have read the Grapes of Wrath right?

Also they will do what your Grandparents did, steal, loot, riot and /or hang aristocrats


I thought my grandfather was a mechanic.

Man, he totally had me fooled.
2014-02-12 02:54:41 PM
2 votes:

bikerific: [img.fark.net image 356x480]


Friend of mine posted this on facebook.

Because obviously unemployed people drinking on the stoop are a big voting demographic.


Yep.  They're called Democrats.
2014-02-12 02:47:16 PM
2 votes:
We should follow Mexico's example and send them all north. I'm sure that Canadia would accept them with open arms.
2014-02-12 02:13:40 PM
2 votes:
That movie sucked.

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2014-02-12 07:13:40 PM
1 votes:

mcreadyblue: Lawnchair: tlars699: A reference is the people you worked with while there. Such as your previous manager, or co-workers you may have had, to see what you're like as an employee.New employers call these people at home, so the references are not under pressure from work to give a short review, and to see what you are like as a person.

And, again, the formal policy from my employer to my direct supervisor (and to me regarding co-workers) is, "If you get a call like this at work or at home, refer them to the HR number. Anything else has the risk of a libel suit.".   I think my supervisor would bend that (and hopefully many would), but that's very much the policy.

I always say

"you'll be lucky to get this guy to work for you" or

"I am pleased to say that this candidate is a former colleague of mine" or

"I most enthusiastically recommend this candidate with no qualifications whatsoever"


So, the first one means that he was a lazy so-and-so who never did any work?
And the second one means you were really glad to see the last of him because he was a backstabbing sob?
And the third one means he lies on his resume?
2014-02-12 05:21:04 PM
1 votes:

Lawnchair: tlars699: A reference is the people you worked with while there. Such as your previous manager, or co-workers you may have had, to see what you're like as an employee.New employers call these people at home, so the references are not under pressure from work to give a short review, and to see what you are like as a person.

And, again, the formal policy from my employer to my direct supervisor (and to me regarding co-workers) is, "If you get a call like this at work or at home, refer them to the HR number. Anything else has the risk of a libel suit.".   I think my supervisor would bend that (and hopefully many would), but that's very much the policy.


I always say

"you'll be lucky to get this guy to work for you" or

"I am pleased to say that this candidate is a former colleague of mine" or

"I most enthusiastically recommend this candidate with no qualifications whatsoever"
2014-02-12 04:47:08 PM
1 votes:
Haha, I am barely employed. I enjoy a very nice lifestyle. I travel. I take more college classes (working on a second degree).

I have never in my life taken welfare. I've never taken unemployment. People wonder how I work so little. The answer is: I live within my means. I am self employed but have taken jobs here and there to add to my income before. I've been doing this for my whole life. It blows people's f*cking minds.

I drive a cash car and when it breaks I fix it myself. I make my own stuff (I am very artistic). I live in a tiny apartment but I'm hardly ever home, I like the outdoors.

I don't have kids; that's a huge money saver. I try not to get involved with anything that has "monthly payments". I got my first credit card at 30. The only debt I have is a small student loan I took out for my first year of college, and I regret that.

I have a friend who is gifting me some furniture this week and I am reupholstering it. My brother is a lot like I am, he is a waiter who works 25 hours and stays home with his baby while his wife works her 30 hours. He also has reupholstered used furniture so I probably will ask him to help me.

Most people think they need that new car or a bigger house, so they work 60 hours, many of them at jobs they hate.

I call myself "willfully poor". I consider myself much more fortunate than say the "unwillfully poor" who are uneducated, have trouble finding employment, have children they cannot care for, have poor so ISL skills or low mental ability or have some other factor that prevents them from living comfortably well.

My father did not understand me for a long time. He worked as an engineer, and he worked long hours. My parents always said they'd travel when they retired but now they're too tired, too out of shape. I watched them and decide that if I wanted to travel I'd figure out a way to do it for free or to do it for a living.. And I have.

Recently my parents came to visit and my dad looked around my house. I'm used to him complaining about my lack of modern comforts (I got my first TV last year.. I never really liked watching TV.. i preferred to use the computer for leisure). This time when he visited he said "you know.. I think you have it all figured out."

That's all it is.. Figure out what you want, and how much you're willing to give up to get it.
2014-02-12 04:35:52 PM
1 votes:
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2014-02-12 03:45:27 PM
1 votes:
cgraves67:

The last time we were hiring we had a couple of applicants who asked to delay starting by a few weeks till their unemployment ran out. They wanted every last drop of free money.

Pro tip: Pay a wage higher than unemployment and you won't have this 'problem'.
2014-02-12 03:15:30 PM
1 votes:

Crass and Jaded Mother Farker: All2morrowsparTs: Smeggy Smurf: If you don't have the government enabling you to sit on the couch you'll do what your grandparents did and move to where the work is.  I hear the Dakotas and Texas are hiring.

You have read the Grapes of Wrath right?

Also they will do what your Grandparents did, steal, loot, riot and /or hang aristocrats

I thought my grandfather was a mechanic.

Man, he totally had me fooled.


He probably hung aristocrats in his spare time.  You can't really make it a full-time job, or you run out of aristocrats too quickly.
2014-02-12 03:07:17 PM
1 votes:

ParallelUniverseParking: MyRandomName: North Carolina has already stopped long term unemployment... let's see how that is working... oh! Higher employment levels.

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2014-02-12 03:06:02 PM
1 votes:
Move in with relatives, who don't want you there but don't feel they can refuse you. Stand in line at food banks. Go to the library to use computers and internet access to look for jobs (sending out resumes that don't get a response). Sell your belongings and your car (if you had one). Take the bus or walk around to the local businesses to apply for work (and be told you have to apply on line). Go to interviews and never get called back. Re-write your resume for every job you apply to, hoping to maximize your chances. Lower your expectations. Lower your expectations. Lower. Run out of benefits.
Take a menial job for minimum wage at a fast food joint or as a cashier at a self serve gas station.
REPUBLICANS: See?! They're just lazy. They got a job right away.
GBB
2014-02-12 02:54:56 PM
1 votes:
www.washingtonpost.com
Much like global warming, the trend is obvious, so surely it will be refuted.
2014-02-12 02:35:03 PM
1 votes:

DarkSoulNoHope: 2KanZam: I used to dismiss the idea that these extended unemployement benefits keep people from working by allowing them to live off the gov't.

But I have a few (lazy) acquaintences whom have been laid off for some time now and "couldn't find a job anywhere"...well as soon as their benefits were cut recently, *POOF* they suddenly both came up with jobs!

Huh, whodathunkit? (seriously, I had no idea some people really were THAT lazy)

Yay! Jobs! Now, question, these fictional acquaintances of yours, did they find a job so fast in pay comparable or better than their old job or did they get a job so low in pay that it won't even cover basic needs?


I know there has to be a like button around here somewhere...
2014-02-12 02:15:19 PM
1 votes:
Sell drugs?
 
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