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(Washington Post)   The good thing about cutting off federal unemployment benefits is that economists can collect more data on the "Kramer Effect": How people with no clear means of income live   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 215
    More: Misc, unemployment benefits, economists, Capitol Heights, NELP, Alan Krueger, William McKinley, incomes, Cosmo Kramer  
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2014-02-12 11:39:55 PM  

GBB: [www.washingtonpost.com image 296x586]
Much like global warming, the trend is obvious, so surely it will be refuted refudiated.


ftfy
 
2014-02-12 11:41:20 PM  

Bucky Katt: GBB: [www.washingtonpost.com image 296x586]
Much like global warming, the trend is obvious, so surely it will be refuted refudiated.

ftfy


Gerard Depardieudiated
 
2014-02-12 11:48:04 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: If you don't have the government enabling you to sit on the couch you'll do what your grandparents did and move to where the work is.  I hear the Dakotas and Texas are hiring.


Oh well, shiat, what's their problem then, right? All they need to do is find a job there and move. I mean THE WHOLE STATE is hiring! Now tell me, how does one work in a state they can't afford to move to? Oh right, fark off. My grandparents didn't move to where the jobs were, because those people were called hobos. And it didn't work.
 
2014-02-12 11:49:52 PM  

Egoy3k: 2KanZam: I used to dismiss the idea that these extended unemployement benefits keep people from working by allowing them to live off the gov't.

But I have a few (lazy) acquaintences whom have been laid off for some time now and "couldn't find a job anywhere"...well as soon as their benefits were cut recently, *POOF* they suddenly both came up with jobs!

Huh, whodathunkit? (seriously, I had no idea some people really were THAT lazy)

Lazy? fark you.

I was on unemployment after I lost my engineering job in 2008 and once that ran out I ran right out and got a job too!  I taught drafting for 4 hours a day in a location that was an 1 hour drive away.  Then I got a job in a call center for 30% of my previous wage. I was barely able to pay my student debt, I nearly went bankrupt, and I had to move back in with my mother for 8 months.  It's a good thing that makes me lazy though because otherwise I might have had the energy to put a gun in my mouth.

The good news is that I got an engineering job in 2010 and  I'll be out from under the associated debts of my hiatus from earning a decent wage by 2015.  The thing is I'm aprivileged white male with an excellent family support structure and while I never asked for orreceived a single handout I knew that one would be forthcoming if I did ask.  I had the ability to fix my problems and it still nearly ruined me.  What about all the people who don't have the numerous advantages that I have?


a very good question
 
2014-02-12 11:58:46 PM  

postnobills: I don't know how others are doing it, but I've been living off savings for going on 11 months now... I've applied for over 400 jobs and had maybe a dozen interviews - I've got another one tomorrow. Fingers crossed!


good luck
 
2014-02-13 12:07:07 AM  

fat_free: new_york_monty: fat_free: new_york_monty: meyerkev: fat_free: 49K for an IT Manager???

Depends where you are.

$49K in a blue state?  What are you, stupid?  Frigging janitors make more than you, because wages are so high because of the damn rent taking it all.
$49K in a red state?  Damn, that's like a house and a yard + 2 kids + dog before we add in the wife's matching salary.  What are you doing right?

/Overgeneralization (It's more Coastal cities vs. Everyone else), but.

Not to mention it was a decade ago.

If you take a job as an IT Manager for less than 25 bucks an hour, you are either a bad hire who can't find anything else or a tard. Or both.

Not my field, so I have no real idea about that. Maybe it's true where you are. But like the guy above me said, money spends a lot different in the country, and pay scales tend to be commensurate. Frankly, you come across as someone who's never traveled toward the middle of the country, but still thinks he knows what life is like there.

Not my farking prob if u wanna stay in BumblefarkIntheDuck Missourah and make min wage, come to Texas and make ya some money, stupid!


You do realize this wasn't ever about me, right? For what it's worth, I live no where near Missouri, and I haven't made minimum wage since I was a kid in high school on Long Island. But you reinforced my previous point nicely.
 
2014-02-13 02:39:59 AM  
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2014-02-13 02:44:41 AM  
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2014-02-13 02:48:58 AM  

Cerebral Ballsy: Haha, I am barely employed. I enjoy a very nice lifestyle. I travel. I take more college classes (working on a second degree).

I have never in my life taken welfare. I've never taken unemployment. People wonder how I work so little. The answer is: I live within my means. I am self employed but have taken jobs here and there to add to my income before. I've been doing this for my whole life. It blows people's f*cking minds.


This.  I work about 1/10 as hard as most people I know, for about 1/3 the money.  Buy good quality used stuff, instead of all-new craptastic stuff, and you can live a very nice life.

/got my last Armani suit for fifty bucks, plus twenty more for dry cleaning and tailoring.
 
2014-02-13 03:35:12 AM  

PunkTiger: I've been out of work for 4 years. Two of those years, I couldn't really search for work seriously because I was on dialysis (I had been since 2005 -- don't fark up your kidneys, folks, that crap ain't fun). The third year (2012), I was recovering from a kidney transplant. Last year (and into this year), I've been actively searching for employment and finding very little available. After I stopped receiving unemployment benefits (I took myself off of them because I couldn't, in good faith, keep looking for work -- being on dialysis and all that), I've been living partly on disability benefits (that will end February 2015), a severance payment from my old job, and my life savings.

I'm 50 years old and facing an uphill battle in the job market. I'm not looking for handouts, I'm looking for a job that pays above minimum wage so I can get back on my feet again.

All that being said, I have a hard time believing that the federal government actually gives a leaping G-d damn for people who are still unemployed after their benefits have run out.


Start a website that is like /. + some 4-chan, but as easie to use as Fark
Uncensored, unfiltered,
Charge one dollar a month, for blathering rights.
liters get 99 characters.
seriously,
if you can pull it off, you'll be rich.

you could call it  'Fishwife'
 
2014-02-13 09:13:25 AM  

K.B.O. Winston: YixilTesiphon: meat0918: A guy with an engineering degree shouldn't be working as a burger flipper.

What if nobody wants to employ him to be an engineer?

You guys talk about jobs as if they go to the highest educated bidder.  As someone with a degree that had to look for that kind of work for a while I'm here to tell you....  THEY DON'T WANT YOU.

I was told by a few people they liked my hustle and work ethic, they just couldn't justify hiring someone with a degree who could switch jobs down the road when they could instead hire a single parent struggling to make ends meet.  That second candidate could truly need that job for the rest of their life.

People who hire for burger flipping jobs hate turnover.  They avoid 'flight risks' whenever possible.


Then don't tell them about your degree genius.
 
2014-02-13 12:04:13 PM  

Far Cough: wildcardjack: Yeah, I have a BS in mechanical engineering and I wouldn't be fit to work in the average burger joint. The griddles are built to 39" and I'm 6'5", I'd have to bend over to flip burgers. That's not a long term option.

If only there were someone with the skill set and credentials to craft, to devise, to design, to, er, what's the technical term, figger out a solution to that physical griddle height issue.   :)


Ah, but the economics of the situation are that I can be replaced by a 5'0" mexican who is the height the grills were made for. My dream kitchen isn't commercially viable.
 
2014-02-13 08:34:53 PM  

PC LOAD LETTER: Smeggy Smurf: If you don't have the government enabling you to sit on the couch you'll do what your grandparents did and move to where the work is.  I hear the Dakotas and Texas are hiring.

Oh well, shiat, what's their problem then, right? All they need to do is find a job there and move. I mean THE WHOLE STATE is hiring! Now tell me, how does one work in a state they can't afford to move to? Oh right, fark off. My grandparents didn't move to where the jobs were, because those people were called hobos. And it didn't work.



This is pretty late, so doubtful it matters, but everything you said seems totally wrong.

Maybe I'll catch a lucky thread close and get the last word...
 
2014-02-13 08:39:23 PM  

noitsnot: PC LOAD LETTER: Smeggy Smurf: If you don't have the government enabling you to sit on the couch you'll do what your grandparents did and move to where the work is.  I hear the Dakotas and Texas are hiring.

Oh well, shiat, what's their problem then, right? All they need to do is find a job there and move. I mean THE WHOLE STATE is hiring! Now tell me, how does one work in a state they can't afford to move to? Oh right, fark off. My grandparents didn't move to where the jobs were, because those people were called hobos. And it didn't work.


This is pretty late, so doubtful it matters, but everything you said seems totally wrong.

Maybe I'll catch a lucky thread close and get the last word...


The last word?
 
2014-02-13 08:41:42 PM  

Far Cough: noitsnot: PC LOAD LETTER: Smeggy Smurf: If you don't have the government enabling you to sit on the couch you'll do what your grandparents did and move to where the work is.  I hear the Dakotas and Texas are hiring.

Oh well, shiat, what's their problem then, right? All they need to do is find a job there and move. I mean THE WHOLE STATE is hiring! Now tell me, how does one work in a state they can't afford to move to? Oh right, fark off. My grandparents didn't move to where the jobs were, because those people were called hobos. And it didn't work.


This is pretty late, so doubtful it matters, but everything you said seems totally wrong.

Maybe I'll catch a lucky thread close and get the last word...

The last word?


DOH!
 
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