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(Washington Post)   The good thing about cutting off federal unemployment benefits is that economists can collect more data on the "Kramer Effect": How people with no clear means of income live   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 215
    More: Misc, unemployment benefits, economists, Capitol Heights, NELP, Alan Krueger, William McKinley, incomes, Cosmo Kramer  
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2014-02-12 02:12:25 PM
By ranting at minorities?
 
2014-02-12 02:13:30 PM
Ooh, a social experiment!  A social Science experiment!  Well, there goes GOP support.... right?
 
2014-02-12 02:13:40 PM
That movie sucked.

www.ivstatic.com
 
2014-02-12 02:13:48 PM
If you don't have the government enabling you to sit on the couch you'll do what your grandparents did and move to where the work is.  I hear the Dakotas and Texas are hiring.
 
2014-02-12 02:13:52 PM
With Darren's help, he'll get that chicken!
 
2014-02-12 02:15:19 PM
Sell drugs?
 
2014-02-12 02:16:23 PM
They sponge off people who would otherwise be using that money to start businesses and/or buy consumer goods.
 
2014-02-12 02:18:28 PM
Well, we need someone to replace the recently confiscated roosters in our fights. Why not pit the Kramers against one another for pay? We could give the fights a catchy name. Something with versus in it.

Like "Single mother vs meth addict." Yeah, that sounds good.
 
2014-02-12 02:19:41 PM
How people with no clear means of income live

Oh... they get by.
 
2014-02-12 02:20:21 PM

Smeggy Smurf: If you don't have the government enabling you to sit on the couch you'll do what your grandparents did and move to where the work is.  I hear the Dakotas and Texas are hiring.


You have read the Grapes of Wrath right?

Also they will do what your Grandparents did, steal, loot, riot and /or hang aristocrats
 
2014-02-12 02:20:24 PM
There are no easy answers. Anyone who says that they have one is trying to sell you something.
 
2014-02-12 02:20:45 PM
well, they can always do what most TFer's mom does - suck off local drug dealers for crack.
 
2014-02-12 02:21:34 PM

NorCalLos: They sponge off people who would otherwise be using that money to start businesses and/or buy consumer goods.


uh?
 
2014-02-12 02:23:30 PM
North Carolina has already stopped long term unemployment... let's see how that is working... oh! Higher employment levels.
 
2014-02-12 02:23:45 PM
I used to dismiss the idea that these extended unemployement benefits keep people from working by allowing them to live off the gov't.

But I have a few (lazy) acquaintences whom have been laid off for some time now and "couldn't find a job anywhere"...well as soon as their benefits were cut recently, *POOF* they suddenly both came up with jobs!

Huh, whodathunkit? (seriously, I had no idea some people really were THAT lazy)
 
2014-02-12 02:23:55 PM
Yet I can't look away.
 
2014-02-12 02:24:55 PM
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2014-02-12 02:27:22 PM

2KanZam: I used to dismiss the idea that these extended unemployement benefits keep people from working by allowing them to live off the gov't.

But I have a few (lazy) acquaintences whom have been laid off for some time now and "couldn't find a job anywhere"...well as soon as their benefits were cut recently, *POOF* they suddenly both came up with jobs!

Huh, whodathunkit? (seriously, I had no idea some people really were THAT lazy)


Yay! Jobs! Now, question, these fictional acquaintances of yours, did they find a job so fast in pay comparable or better than their old job or did they get a job so low in pay that it won't even cover basic needs?
 
2014-02-12 02:32:00 PM

MyRandomName: North Carolina has already stopped long term unemployment... let's see how that is working... oh! Higher employment levels.


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2014-02-12 02:35:03 PM

DarkSoulNoHope: 2KanZam: I used to dismiss the idea that these extended unemployement benefits keep people from working by allowing them to live off the gov't.

But I have a few (lazy) acquaintences whom have been laid off for some time now and "couldn't find a job anywhere"...well as soon as their benefits were cut recently, *POOF* they suddenly both came up with jobs!

Huh, whodathunkit? (seriously, I had no idea some people really were THAT lazy)

Yay! Jobs! Now, question, these fictional acquaintances of yours, did they find a job so fast in pay comparable or better than their old job or did they get a job so low in pay that it won't even cover basic needs?


I know there has to be a like button around here somewhere...
 
2014-02-12 02:36:00 PM
Done in one.

 I won't read the article, but let me guess.  By government aid, mooching off family, mooching off friends, odd jobs, savings, cohabitating, homelessness, and/or petty crime?
 
2014-02-12 02:37:41 PM

2KanZam: I used to dismiss the idea that these extended unemployement benefits keep people from working by allowing them to live off the gov't.

But I have a few (lazy) acquaintences whom have been laid off for some time now and "couldn't find a job anywhere"...well as soon as their benefits were cut recently, *POOF* they suddenly both came up with jobs!

Huh, whodathunkit? (seriously, I had no idea some people really were THAT lazy)


What a compelling anecdote. I'm voting for Reagan!
 
2014-02-12 02:37:43 PM
When I was out of work I wanted to get back to work ASAP. Unemployment paying 60% of what I made sucked so it double motivated me to find a job. The only things that sucked about it were I went to some shady interviews and snd ones where I thought I nailed it and didnt get the job, it was demoralizing.
 
2014-02-12 02:38:33 PM
I've been out of work for 4 years. Two of those years, I couldn't really search for work seriously because I was on dialysis (I had been since 2005 -- don't fark up your kidneys, folks, that crap ain't fun). The third year (2012), I was recovering from a kidney transplant. Last year (and into this year), I've been actively searching for employment and finding very little available. After I stopped receiving unemployment benefits (I took myself off of them because I couldn't, in good faith, keep looking for work -- being on dialysis and all that), I've been living partly on disability benefits (that will end February 2015), a severance payment from my old job, and my life savings.

I'm 50 years old and facing an uphill battle in the job market. I'm not looking for handouts, I'm looking for a job that pays above minimum wage so I can get back on my feet again.

All that being said, I have a hard time believing that the federal government actually gives a leaping G-d damn for people who are still unemployed after their benefits have run out.
 
2014-02-12 02:40:29 PM

Far Cough: Done in one.

 I won't read the article, but let me guess.  By government aid, mooching off family, mooching off friends, odd jobs, savings, cohabitating, homelessness, and/or petty crime?


Mostly these three FTA, but to me, the phrase OddJob always has this edge to it.
 
2014-02-12 02:41:45 PM

btfoom: well, they can always do what most TFer's mom does - suck off local drug dealers for crack.


Gotta earn that five bucks to pay for their snowflake's sub somehow.
 
2014-02-12 02:41:57 PM

tlars699: Far Cough: Done in one.

 I won't read the article, but let me guess.  By government aid, mooching off family, mooching off friends, odd jobs, savings, cohabitating, homelessness, and/or petty crime?

Mostly these three FTA, but to me, the phrase OddJob always has this edge to it.


Old hat?
 
2014-02-12 02:43:12 PM

ReverendJynxed: btfoom: well, they can always do what most TFer's mom does - suck off local drug dealers for crack.

Gotta earn that five bucks to pay for their snowflake's sub somehow.


5 Dolla will make you Holla!
 
2014-02-12 02:44:39 PM
Those people can just write it off.
 
2014-02-12 02:47:16 PM
We should follow Mexico's example and send them all north. I'm sure that Canadia would accept them with open arms.
 
2014-02-12 02:47:53 PM
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Friend of mine posted this on facebook.

Because obviously unemployed people drinking on the stoop are a big voting demographic.
 
2014-02-12 02:49:10 PM

2KanZam: But I have a few (lazy) acquaintences whom have been laid off for some time now and "couldn't find a job anywhere"...well as soon as their benefits were cut recently, *POOF* they suddenly both came up with jobs!


Same here.  They weren't lazy though.  The 3 or 4 that I know would work cash jobs while collecting unemployment, all the while trying to find a really good fit for when the well finally ran dry.

Granted that these were skilled techs who could command in the $30 to $50/hr range (cash) for skilled labor.

Probably not an option for Joe Factory Worker though.
 
2014-02-12 02:50:03 PM

Far Cough: tlars699: Far Cough: Done in one.

 I won't read the article, but let me guess.  By government aid, mooching off family, mooching off friends, odd jobs, savings, cohabitating, homelessness, and/or petty crime?

Mostly these three FTA, but to me, the phrase OddJob always has this edge to it.

Old hat?


*shudder* Like steel lined teeth chewing tinfoil, that one.
 
2014-02-12 02:51:18 PM

bikerific: [img.fark.net image 356x480]


Friend of mine posted this on facebook.

Because obviously unemployed people drinking on the stoop are a big voting demographic.


Who knew an image could be the full of dog whistles?
 
2014-02-12 02:52:29 PM

Smeggy Smurf: If you don't have the government enabling you to sit on the couch you'll do what your grandparents did and move to where the work is.  I hear the Dakotas and Texas are hiring.


And if you can't afford the transportation to another state?
 
2014-02-12 02:54:15 PM

bikerific: [img.fark.net image 356x480]


Friend of mine posted this on facebook.

Because obviously unemployed people drinking on the stoop are a big voting demographic.


Yeah right seems like the laziest people I know hardly ever or never vote.
 
2014-02-12 02:54:39 PM

DarkSoulNoHope: 2KanZam: I used to dismiss the idea that these extended unemployement benefits keep people from working by allowing them to live off the gov't.

But I have a few (lazy) acquaintences whom have been laid off for some time now and "couldn't find a job anywhere"...well as soon as their benefits were cut recently, *POOF* they suddenly both came up with jobs!

Huh, whodathunkit? (seriously, I had no idea some people really were THAT lazy)

Yay! Jobs! Now, question, these fictional acquaintances of yours, did they find a job so fast in pay comparable or better than their old job or did they get a job so low in pay that it won't even cover basic needs?



Lower than what they were making before...

I know you think I'm lying, but the one kept sabotaging her interviews by somehow linking the work with Obama...in the interview...out loud..and stating her distatse for him.

The other guy is just stupid.
 
2014-02-12 02:54:41 PM

bikerific: [img.fark.net image 356x480]


Friend of mine posted this on facebook.

Because obviously unemployed people drinking on the stoop are a big voting demographic.


Yep.  They're called Democrats.
 
GBB
2014-02-12 02:54:56 PM
www.washingtonpost.com
Much like global warming, the trend is obvious, so surely it will be refuted.
 
2014-02-12 02:57:05 PM

Wendy's Chili: 2KanZam: I used to dismiss the idea that these extended unemployement benefits keep people from working by allowing them to live off the gov't.

But I have a few (lazy) acquaintences whom have been laid off for some time now and "couldn't find a job anywhere"...well as soon as their benefits were cut recently, *POOF* they suddenly both came up with jobs!

Huh, whodathunkit? (seriously, I had no idea some people really were THAT lazy)

What a compelling anecdote. I'm voting for Reagan!



I love how everyone is assuming I'm some conservative...This really did happen and it honestly surprised me.
 
2014-02-12 02:57:05 PM

meat0918: bikerific: [img.fark.net image 356x480]


Friend of mine posted this on facebook.

Because obviously unemployed people drinking on the stoop are a big voting demographic.

Who knew an image could be the full of dog whistles?


Is that a grape nehi or a Colt 45 Malt Liquor?  I'm thinking the malt liquor.
 
2014-02-12 02:57:20 PM
Since we're in the business here in America of tossing rights and gaining rights, how about a right to income? That way everyone's got money, and that money being spent generates demand! And demand = jobs!
 
2014-02-12 02:59:37 PM
SELL SELL SELL

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2014-02-12 03:01:56 PM

TomD9938: 2KanZam: But I have a few (lazy) acquaintences whom have been laid off for some time now and "couldn't find a job anywhere"...well as soon as their benefits were cut recently, *POOF* they suddenly both came up with jobs!

Same here.  They weren't lazy though.  The 3 or 4 that I know would work cash jobs while collecting unemployment, all the while trying to find a really good fit for when the well finally ran dry.

Granted that these were skilled techs who could command in the $30 to $50/hr range (cash) for skilled labor.

Probably not an option for Joe Factory Worker though.



Well really one is lazy.  She has gotten herself fired from her last few jobs and this time her BF was there to foot the bill, so there was no sense of urgency. She also thinks she is above every job that opens.

The other guy is kinda dumb and he also keeps getting fired (one was his family's business)  But yeah as soon as his teat was drying up it dawned on him.

But of course, as people upthread are insinuating, I am making all this up for some reason.
 
2014-02-12 03:02:34 PM

All2morrowsparTs: Smeggy Smurf: If you don't have the government enabling you to sit on the couch you'll do what your grandparents did and move to where the work is.  I hear the Dakotas and Texas are hiring.

You have read the Grapes of Wrath right?

Also they will do what your Grandparents did, steal, loot, riot and /or hang aristocrats


I thought my grandfather was a mechanic.

Man, he totally had me fooled.
 
2014-02-12 03:05:06 PM
Spouse works in marketing/IT as a W-2 contractor, and makes 5K a month after taxes. When her project ends in July, she's entitled to 2K a month for a year in unemployment benefits. However, we shell out nearly 2K a month in childcare, commuting and other work-related things are about 500 a month, so we're down about 500 bucks per month in total.

Works for us, kinda...
 
2014-02-12 03:05:39 PM
Lillian Humphrey of Baltimore has resorted to selling baby toys that her 1-year-old great-grandson has outgrown, asking $10 or $15 on Craigslist. It is the only money she has coming in these days. But there is still plenty of money going out the door - for her mortgage, gas and electric bills and for her osteoporosis medication. 

Wow, that must have been a hell of a lot of baby toys that you can live off for a while just from selling them second hand.
 
2014-02-12 03:05:44 PM

Gosling: Smeggy Smurf: If you don't have the government enabling you to sit on the couch you'll do what your grandparents did and move to where the work is.  I hear the Dakotas and Texas are hiring.

And if you can't afford the transportation to another state?


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2014-02-12 03:06:02 PM
Move in with relatives, who don't want you there but don't feel they can refuse you. Stand in line at food banks. Go to the library to use computers and internet access to look for jobs (sending out resumes that don't get a response). Sell your belongings and your car (if you had one). Take the bus or walk around to the local businesses to apply for work (and be told you have to apply on line). Go to interviews and never get called back. Re-write your resume for every job you apply to, hoping to maximize your chances. Lower your expectations. Lower your expectations. Lower. Run out of benefits.
Take a menial job for minimum wage at a fast food joint or as a cashier at a self serve gas station.
REPUBLICANS: See?! They're just lazy. They got a job right away.
 
2014-02-12 03:06:21 PM
"Wessita McKinley of Capitol Heights is unemployed and about to lose her jobless benefits. She runs a non-profit that among other things collects food for the working poor."

So she has a "job" running a non-profit AND she is collecting Unemployment
 
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