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(JSOnline)   Wisconsin Republicans move to ban local governments from passing living wage laws   (jsonline.com) divider line 98
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2014-02-12 11:18:46 AM
Federalism: IOKIYAR.
 
2014-02-12 11:26:25 AM
Not that I necessarily agree with it and not that Chris Kapenga doesn't have a face that scores a 98% on the punchability scale, but it sounds like the proposed bill is designed to apply to jobs that are paid from state or federal money so as not to unfairly give more money to localities that have higher minimum wages.
 
2014-02-12 12:52:17 PM

exick: Not that I necessarily agree with it and not that Chris Kapenga doesn't have a face that scores a 98% on the punchability scale, but it sounds like the proposed bill is designed to apply to jobs that are paid from state or federal money so as not to unfairly give more money to localities that have higher minimum wages.


Uh, I don't think Wisconsin has the authority to do this, especially for projects that fall under Davis-Bacon Wage requirements. Cities are mandated to pay prevailing wages on construction projects that use Federal CDBG (and other) money. The minimum wage is actually *much* lower than prevailing wages for a majority of construction trades.

I mean, unless Kapenga is looking to shut off all federal funding to local municipalities. Oh, he's looking to shut off all federal funding to local municipalities, isn't he?
 
2014-02-12 12:55:35 PM

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: exick: Not that I necessarily agree with it and not that Chris Kapenga doesn't have a face that scores a 98% on the punchability scale, but it sounds like the proposed bill is designed to apply to jobs that are paid from state or federal money so as not to unfairly give more money to localities that have higher minimum wages.

Uh, I don't think Wisconsin has the authority to do this, especially for projects that fall under Davis-Bacon Wage requirements. Cities are mandated to pay prevailing wages on construction projects that use Federal CDBG (and other) money. The minimum wage is actually *much* lower than prevailing wages for a majority of construction trades.

I mean, unless Kapenga is looking to shut off all federal funding to local municipalities. Oh, he's looking to shut off all federal funding to local municipalities, isn't he?


Winner, winner, Chicken Dinner! Because you know the State needs to distribute all of the federal monies as state monies, which they will only do once the State has "it's fair share", aka "Earning interest in banks owned by out buddies so we can skim off the top, instead of spending the fund the way we are supposed to".
 
2014-02-12 01:48:42 PM
Because fark you that's why.
 
2014-02-12 01:51:04 PM
Face of evil, right there.
 
2014-02-12 01:55:00 PM
I was all ready to come in with just a "Christ, what an asshole" quip, but I actually can see how this can cause some anger in the state from other districts. Plus, it might cause the state to put off public works in that region because it'll cost more to fix than in other areas.

I still think it's bad, but at least I can see justification that isn't Snidely Whiplash worthy.
 
2014-02-12 02:05:05 PM
In my state, Maryland, Republicans are doing the opposite: instead of a statewide minimum wage hike, they want the poorer counties to be able to kerp their min wage low, abd the wealthier counties can raise theirs if they want.
 
2014-02-12 02:16:09 PM
The more local the government, the better, unless the local government does something we don't like, such as paying living wages.
 
2014-02-12 02:20:14 PM

nmrsnr: Plus, it might cause the state to put off public works in that region because it'll cost more to fix than in other areas.


As I said above, considering that 9/10 public projects have some level of Federal subsidy in them that already mandate a prevailing wage, this "fear" is overblown. More likely this is just an attempt to deny all funding to areas that the GOP doesn't like (read: urban, Democratic leaning cities).
 
2014-02-12 02:33:10 PM
As with NC, enjoy your elected government doing what you asked of them, Wisconsin voters. I know some of you tried to kick Walker out, and it didn't work. Sorry for your derpy neighbors, but them's the breaks.
 
2014-02-12 02:44:17 PM
"Party of small government."
 
2014-02-12 02:50:02 PM

someonelse: "Party of small government."


Exactly
 
2014-02-12 02:51:48 PM

vernonFL: In my state, Maryland, Republicans are doing the opposite: instead of a statewide minimum wage hike, they want the poorer counties to be able to keep their min wage low, and the wealthier counties can raise theirs if they want.


And in DC, we're trying to find a local Republican. It's hard, what with the assholes y'all keep sending here scumming up the place - to the point where being a Republican in DC...means you were elected by some state with fewer people than cows, who remit to Treasury (on 20th St, down the block from me) less in federal taxes than The District does, to come here and talk about how the poors leech off government and DC is the problem.

// that's actually not-horrible about MD, though
// have the state GOP stopped being hardons in general, though?
// and how does the recreational MJ bill look? (*crossed fingers*)
 
2014-02-12 02:53:24 PM

theorellior: As with NC, enjoy your elected government doing what you asked of them, Wisconsin voters. I know some of you tried to kick Walker out, and it didn't work. Sorry for your derpy neighbors, but them's the breaks.


Bankin' on Burke this year. Somehow, this state put Walker and Tammy Baldwin in power. Clearly, nothing makes sense here.
 
2014-02-12 03:01:37 PM
Y'know all those things that are atrocities at the federal level? Well, they're not atrocities at the state level!

Yours, the RNC.
 
2014-02-12 03:06:32 PM
Oh FFS.
 
2014-02-12 03:10:01 PM
This guy is just a shiatbag trying to keep poor people from earning more money, as a republican that is his sole reason for doing this. That said it is kinda odd to have a mishmash of minimum wages across the state, I would think you'd end up with a situation where stores and shopping centers build just outside of the zone and other shenanigans.
 
2014-02-12 03:17:31 PM

Triple Oak: Bankin' on Burke this year. Somehow, this state put Walker and Tammy Baldwin in power. Clearly, nothing makes sense here.


Clearly.  Even though I live here I don't understand it either.   For example, my derpiest brother in law is the most gay tolerant one of the bunch.  His thoughts are "you're born how you're born" yet he totally believes in homepathic medicine and a list of other quackery far too long to explain here.
 
2014-02-12 03:22:26 PM
I'm as opposed to the Republican's move as the next person with a functioning cerebral cortex...but let's at least be honest subby, they're not banning the efforts...they're only saying they can't use state money to do it.  They have to use locally collected revenue.
 
2014-02-12 03:23:20 PM
Yeah, similar thing happened in Florida.

Orange County flirted with the idea of mandatory sick pay.  It failed the vote locally.  So the state GOP introduced a bill saying local governments couldn't consider it in the future.  Had to make sure that wouldn't happen again.

Mind you - not legislation banning it in the state, not a statewide vote for or against sick pay, but legislation saying you can't even consider it locally.
 
2014-02-12 03:23:31 PM
You can't prevent localities from enacting local wage laws.  What you could do is tax all pay between $7.25 per hour and $10 an hour at 100%.  Please try this approach, Republicans.
 
2014-02-12 03:44:50 PM
What a surprise. A nancy boy republican who's never dirtied his own hands nor done a single second's worth of honest work wants to keep the hard working people of Wisconsin from being paid what their work is worth.
 
2014-02-12 03:50:47 PM

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: As I said above, considering that 9/10 public projects have some level of Federal subsidy in them that already mandate a prevailing wage, this "fear" is overblown. More likely this is just an attempt to deny all funding to areas that the GOP doesn't like (read: urban, Democratic leaning cities).


Also, government contracts for "inner city" areas are best handed to suburban companies run by my friends, employing people from my district, not to those... inner city people. Those are my tax dollars. Why don't those inner city people just get a job instead of looking for handouts!
 
2014-02-12 03:52:07 PM

eagles95: someonelse: "Party of small government."

Exactly


Small enough to fit in your wallet.
 
2014-02-12 03:53:23 PM
Can't wait until they pass this and a judge says "Nah, can't do it."
 
2014-02-12 04:01:40 PM
And Tennessee Republicans are attacking workers and companies

What's going on with all these crazy state republicans?
 
2014-02-12 04:02:44 PM
PA tried this with fracking laws. The state supreme court threw it out.
 
2014-02-12 04:03:56 PM

neversubmit: What's going on with all these crazy state republicans?


An astrophysicist would refer to it as maximum density, at which point the structure collapses into itself and becomes a black hole, I believe.
 
2014-02-12 04:04:17 PM
Why are republicans against everything good and are in favor of everything vile?
 
2014-02-12 04:05:31 PM
What is this...I don't even... The Republican Party is a mustache-twirling Snidely Whiplash these days. Up next: They tie their Democratic counterparts to the railroad tracks.
 
2014-02-12 04:05:46 PM

TV's Vinnie: Why are republicans against everything good and are in favor of everything vile?


Vile pays better.
 
2014-02-12 04:06:31 PM

TV's Vinnie: Why are republicans against everything good and are in favor of everything vile?


Did you read the article, or just rely on that rock-solid confirmation bias of yours to come to this conclusion?
 
2014-02-12 04:10:31 PM
Remember Wisconsin, it's not class warfare if you don't fight back
 
2014-02-12 04:15:15 PM
In unrelated news, Wisconsin cheese scientists discover how to let creepy vampires have day jobs without sparkling.

media.jrn.com
 
2014-02-12 04:17:39 PM

Dr Dreidel: vernonFL: In my state, Maryland, Republicans are doing the opposite: instead of a statewide minimum wage hike, they want the poorer counties to be able to keep their min wage low, and the wealthier counties can raise theirs if they want.

And in DC, we're trying to find a local Republican. It's hard, what with the assholes y'all keep sending here scumming up the place - to the point where being a Republican in DC...means you were elected by some state with fewer people than cows, who remit to Treasury (on 20th St, down the block from me) less in federal taxes than The District does, to come here and talk about how the poors leech off government and DC is the problem.

// that's actually not-horrible about MD, though
// have the state GOP stopped being hardons in general, though?
// and how does the recreational MJ bill look? (*crossed fingers*)


But of course Congress has control of DC in many ways, like the budget, so it's not like Republicans don't actually ru n it.
 
2014-02-12 04:19:29 PM

JonBuck: What is this...I don't even... The Republican Party is a mustache-twirling Snidely Whiplash these days


They realize they don't have much time left before demographics destroys their current Southern Strategy incarnation.
 
2014-02-12 04:26:43 PM
Does the GOP even farking try to hide it's contempt for poor people anymore? This basically serves to help the very wealthy in both obvious and less obvious ways. And only those ways.
 
2014-02-12 04:27:18 PM
Article accompanied by appropriate picture of smiling douchebag.
 
2014-02-12 04:29:31 PM

TimonC346: Does the GOP even farking try to hide it's contempt for poor people anymore?


I'd say about 47% of the time, they don't even bother.
 
2014-02-12 04:34:42 PM

Shryke: TV's Vinnie: Why are republicans against everything good and are in favor of everything vile?

Did you read the article, or just rely on that rock-solid confirmation bias of yours to come to this conclusion?


So you're against living wages, too.

How surprising. Let me guess, those poor poor "small" business owners aren't going to be able to afford it.
 
2014-02-12 04:35:39 PM

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: neversubmit: What's going on with all these crazy state republicans?

An astrophysicist would refer to it as maximum density, at which point the structure collapses into itself and becomes a black hole, I believe.


So then does it follow...

www.bartcop.com
 
2014-02-12 04:39:35 PM

BitwiseShift: In unrelated news, Wisconsin cheese scientists discover how to let creepy vampires have day jobs without sparkling.

[media.jrn.com image 185x313]


That has to be one of the most punchable faces I've ever seen.
 
2014-02-12 04:42:36 PM

whidbey: So you're against living wages, too.


I am not even gonna ask if you read the article. No, you just went straight to our HERPADERP button.
 
2014-02-12 04:45:31 PM

Shryke: whidbey: So you're against living wages, too.

I am not even gonna ask if you read the article. No, you just went straight to our HERPADERP button.


And you're obviously not going to concede that you're against living wages because you would majorly have your ass handed to you here.

What are you even doing here if you're going to act like you're too cool to take a side, anyway?
 
2014-02-12 04:47:22 PM
Remember, the idea of a "living wage" is a brand new thing invented by far-left secularists. . .


wisdomvoices.com


http://books.google.com/books/about/A_Living_Wage.html?id=KssJAAAAIA AJ
 
2014-02-12 04:47:40 PM

whidbey: And you're obviously not going to concede that you're against living wages because you would majorly have your ass handed to you here.


i am against living wages because the concept of a 'wage' is the prime enablement of capitalist control of the proletariat
 
2014-02-12 04:47:43 PM

neversubmit: And Tennessee Republicans are attacking workers and companies

What's going on with all these crazy state republicans?


85,000 applicants for 11,000 jobs at the plant
Wow
 
2014-02-12 04:50:04 PM

whidbey: And you're obviously not going to concede that you're against living wages


Am I against federally mandated minimum wages? Yes. State mandated? No. Are they smart? No. Do they achieve what they are ostensibly designed to do? No.

In reality, they are here to enrich unions because their labor contracts are based on multiplying the minimum wage to some degree.
 
2014-02-12 04:51:16 PM

sprawl15: whidbey: And you're obviously not going to concede that you're against living wages because you would majorly have your ass handed to you here.

i am against living wages because the concept of a 'wage' is the prime enablement of capitalist control of the proletariat


Well as long as we have this stupid shiatty system, the people doing the brunt of the work deserve to be well-paid at least.

We can deal with capitalism and its greedy friends later.
 
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