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FizixJunkee: "regular" white

Um, Dude, the preferred nomenclature is "European Americans".

here to help: Well I am, of course... *shades*... here to help.yyyyyeeeeeaaaahhhhhh!!!!!

You're on the beer/coffee list now, by the way.

I'll quit with the off-topic crap for now.

While I've stated my opinion on illegal immigration and how it should be handled, and made some criticism of the law FTA, let me make it clear.

Arizona House Bill 2192, authored by Rep. Carl Seel (R) is one of the worst pieces of legislation in the long, sad history of bad legislation. It is unenforceable, ill-conceived, and more likely to promote racist actions on the part of law enforcement. It should be dropped in the delivered toilet and flushed away.

Idea:   Let's get rid of the Senate AND gerrymandering.

The bill specifies that those "public resources" include roads and schools, as well as any other taxpayer-funded entity.

I'd love to see the feedback loop that erupts from these people getting arrested for anything, put into a publicly owned cop car, driven on a public street to a public jail, where they await arraignment in a publicly owned courthouse, you guys get the gist of it by now...

Dumbass REALLY didn't think his cunning plan all the way through.

So now they wont let Jesus take a dump in Arizona?

Better they dirty a public toilet instead of pissing all over the pedestrian doorway in my parking garage.
And in the elevator. And trash cans.

The only thing worse than the smell of urine is reading Poe scrawled, in feces, on a parking garage wall.

Boojum2k: in Clinton's case far far better.

Yes. Clinton did a pretty spanky job. Of course he almost lost that job because he was schtooping the office tart which again speaks to where neo con priorities lie. Pretty sh*tty the dems couldn't follow up with another decent candidate. I think the world would be a far less f*cked up place if they had.

Takin' our Johns!

theflatline: placing her in a womens facility

Negative, she was placed in a men's facility, in a solitary cell, with posted guards. She was only moved to a women's facility because of the outrage generated. If she hadn't posted her situation, and her girlfriend hadn't updated, she'd have been kept at the men's facility because apparently Torontoan's are even dumber than their mayor.

here to help: Joe Blowme: I was wrong.... THIS is why you should not huff paint

And the hits keep comin'.

I wonder how balls deep we'd be in Iran right now if Mr. Mitt had gotten the helm? He seem to have some major beef with Chinamen too. What was that all about?

Oh and ships for some reason. Makes lots of sense considering most of America's enemies are currently living in deserts.

Wait... Mitt? Is that you?

Frankenstein never scared me....

Marsupials do....

Cause they're fassssstt

here to help: Boojum2k: in Clinton's case far far better.

Yes. Clinton did a pretty spanky job. Of course he almost lost that job because he was schtooping the office tart which again speaks to where neo con priorities lie. Pretty sh*tty the dems couldn't follow up with another decent candidate. I think the world would be a far less f*cked up place if they had.

I know right? Its not like he lied to congress or anything.

/it would apear i was wrong again.... this is why you dont huff paint

/drop in not out

rkiller1: FizixJunkee: "regular" white

Um, Dude, the preferred nomenclature is "European Americans".

Walter, this isn't a guy who owned the railroads here.

here to help: Boojum2k: in Clinton's case far far better.

Yes. Clinton did a pretty spanky job. Of course he almost lost that job because he was schtooping the office tart which again speaks to where neo con priorities lie. Pretty sh*tty the dems couldn't follow up with another decent candidate. I think the world would be a far less f*cked up place if they had.

Eh, I'd have been fine with him doin' the help, apart from the huge gaping hole it blows in the moral value of workplace sexual harassment laws (it's never an equal power dynamic when your boss gets some from you). Perjury after being caught was stupid. Not worth removing him over, the stain on his historical record is enough (and doesn't come out at the dry cleaners either). At the time, I'm not sure which Democrat would have been a more prominent candidate than Al Gore, and since he didn't go crazy until years later he might have made a good President.

Mikey1969: I'd love to see the feedback loop that erupts from these people getting arrested for anything, put into a publicly owned cop car, driven on a public street to a public jail, where they await arraignment in a publicly owned courthouse, you guys get the gist of it by now...

Isn't it against the law to force someone to perform a crime? So you couldn't actually take them to jail in that police cruiser. Heheheheh.

btfoom: I can't understand how so many folks just don't get the issue.

They are ILLEGALLY in this country, period.  No one said they can't come in, just have to do it legally.

Well, it's good to see you've worked on your spelling since your comment in the linked article:

He's not anti-Latino, he's ani-ileagal everybody. I say the same "LEAVE MY COUNTRY"

fappomatic: Better they dirty a public toilet instead of pissing all over the pedestrian doorway in my parking garage.
And in the elevator. And trash cans.

The only thing worse than the smell of urine is reading Poe scrawled, in feces, on a parking garage wall.

Once upon a midnight dreary, while I pondered weak and weary,
Over many a quaint and curious volume of forgotten lore,
While I nodded, nearly napping, suddenly there came a tapping,
Some immigrant was crapping, loudly crapping, on my carport door.

Poe in poo.

rkiller1: And your crack about the "brown ones" is a superb bum pun. +1 Internets for you today!

I wondered if that would get picked up...call it the #2 tax

And the Chinks! Don't forget the Chinks!

Boojum2k: Mikey1969: I'd love to see the feedback loop that erupts from these people getting arrested for anything, put into a publicly owned cop car, driven on a public street to a public jail, where they await arraignment in a publicly owned courthouse, you guys get the gist of it by now...

Isn't it against the law to force someone to perform a crime? So you couldn't actually take them to jail in that police cruiser. Heheheheh.

Yeah, there's an extra layer to that feedback loop I hadn't even thought of. Jesus, actually feeding these people whole they're in detention could possibly reverse time at this point.

Boojum2k: here to help: Well I am, of course... *shades*... here to help.yyyyyeeeeeaaaahhhhhh!!!!!

You're on the beer/coffee list now, by the way.

I'll quit with the off-topic crap for now.

While I've stated my opinion on illegal immigration and how it should be handled, and made some criticism of the law FTA, let me make it clear.

Arizona House Bill 2192, authored by Rep. Carl Seel (R) is one of the worst pieces of legislation in the long, sad history of bad legislation. It is unenforceable, ill-conceived, and more likely to promote racist actions on the part of law enforcement. It should be dropped in the delivered toilet and flushed away.

Well shucks... now I feel bad for being a dick earlier but hey... it's Fark, right? You're turning out more reasonable than I first thought too.

Frankly I think the only way to solve the Mexico problem is to make Mexico a better place to live. Not an easy task at this point. One way would be to completely end the WOD, and as much as I hate hard drugs, legalize, regulate and distribute/tax the drugs that have made it so damned dangerous to live in Mexico lately. But not just that... consider this. Perhaps it's time to simply make Mexico an honorary state and get the standard of living up down there. I mean for all the money spent fighting illegals and all the ridiculous problems created by the corrupt government down there just annex them already. There is a much easier to contain geographic choke point between central america and south america so focus on that instead. A huge section of the US populace are Mexican now anyway and I'm not saying break the border wide open but they could seriously use a hand with all that narco sh*t, education, healthcare, etc and having US oversight into the goings on of their gov would really likely solve a lot of problems down there. Of course they'd have to be into it but man... how could they NOT want a US backed Mexico instead of this piddly ass nonsense and antagonism.

Just make it a better place to live without destroying the country/culture and I'm sure you'll have a hell of a lot less people willing to risk their lives/freedom trying to get into the states. They could be the browner, spicier Canada.

Nick Nostril: And the Chinks! Don't forget the Chinks!

Le sigh. Lost me quote.

/goddamned cell phone "connection".

Sounds like someone may be finding a few flaming bags on his porch.

There is 'Stupid' and then there is 'Criminally Stupid' along with other things like 'abuse of power, spiteful and just plain mean'.

None of those qualities are good for a politician but after reading this piece, plus the previous FARK piece about Pensacola, Florida making it illegal for the homeless to use blankets or any form of protective covering to keep warm, I'm starting to think it's dangerously wide spread.

Just look at the squabble between Congress and President Clinton that culminated in global ridicule and now Congress and President Obama -- making this congress the most do-nothing sitting congress in history.

There are more important things to take care of -- like the cuts in social services for the poor, cuts in food stamps, the forever rising costs of medical care and the curiously rapidly growing rift between rich and poor.

Besides, wipe out the illegal immigrant population and watch your food prices double as farmers have to pay real wages to real Americans to do the harvests. What will landlords do when they can't rent their apartments designed for 5 people to 20 Illegals at twice the price? They might even have to spend money to make costly repairs.

You think the lawn company who does your grass monthly is expensive now, just wait until they have to replace any Illegals with Genuine Americans.

here to help: Well shucks... now I feel bad for being a dick earlier but hey... it's Fark, right? You're turning out more reasonable than I first thought too.

I'm old-school, I enjoy a good flame war when done between reasonable people who disagree. I don't even mind name-calling, particularly for original insults.

here to help: Frankly I think the only way to solve the Mexico problem is to make Mexico a better place to live. Not an easy task at this point. One way would be to completely end the WOD, and as much as I hate hard drugs, legalize, regulate and distribute/tax the drugs that have made it so damned dangerous to live in Mexico lately.

fark yes, this.

here to help: Perhaps it's time to simply make Mexico an honorary state and get the standard of living up down there. I mean for all the money spent fighting illegals and all the ridiculous problems created by the corrupt government down there just annex them already. There is a much easier to contain geographic choke point between central america and south america so focus on that instead. A huge section of the US populace are Mexican now anyway and I'm not saying break the border wide open but they could seriously use a hand with all that narco sh*t, education, healthcare, etc and having US oversight into the goings on of their gov would really likely solve a lot of problems down there. Of course they'd have to be into it but man... how could they NOT want a US backed Mexico instead of this piddly ass nonsense and antagonism.

Mostly culture and pride, which is understandable, but geez folks, a good idea is still a good idea regardless of the color or nation of it's origin.

Rik01: plus the previous FARK piece about Pensacola, Florida making it illegal for the homeless

I missed that. I live in the farking Heart of Dixie (which makes me a godless liberal pinko commie here) and the folks here still view Pensacola as a potato farm with nice beaches.

Oldiron_79: Can AZ get its own tag like Florida yet?

No.  You don't get one.

here to help: Perhaps it's time to simply make Mexico an honorary state and get the standard of living up down there. I mean for all the money spent fighting illegals and all the ridiculous problems created by the corrupt government down there just annex them already.

We can't even get Puerto Rico's standard of living up to Mississippi level after all this time, how are we going to do that with a country the size of Mexico. The size of the border is not the problem, the real problem is lack of interior enforcement which draws people to the border. If people knew they couldn't find jobs and had a non-astronomical chance of being deported once they got into the U.S. not as many would come over.

Boojum2k: Eh, I'd have been fine with him doin' the help, apart from the huge gaping hole it blows in the moral value of workplace sexual harassment laws (it's never an equal power dynamic when your boss gets some from you). Perjury after being caught was stupid. Not worth removing him over, the stain on his historical record is enough (and doesn't come out at the dry cleaners either). At the time, I'm not sure which Democrat would have been a more prominent candidate than Al Gore, and since he didn't go crazy until years later he might have made a good President.

If it was genuine sexual harassment then I'd be a lot less forgiving but from all accounts it really seemed like she was the pursuer and knew what she was doing. Besides, sex scandals (unless they involve kids and/or unwilling participants) aren't the type of thing I care about when considering a politicians merits. The lying was bad but that type of attack was kind of unprecedented and really changed the face of politics. I think ole Billy boy and his team just had no idea how to respond so they went the denial route. Definitely a mistake but it may have worked out just as badly even if he came clean right out of the gate... at least politically. I think that was really the turn for the repubs from playing reasonably fair to doing anything and everything possible to attack the opponent.

As far as Gore... I never liked the guy. If he was any kind of a decent, freedom loving American he never would have backed his twat of a wife with her crusade against free speech. Considering how all that ended up turning out in the end and some of the filthy tactics that were used in the process it shows ineptitude and poor priorities. Still... would have been far better than Bush/Cheney what with their ridiculous wars but Gore was no where near the statesman Clinton was and he likely would have been a one termer.

Man, all this carrying on, and emotion.
I don't think it's going to change what's going to happen.

I'm all for cracking down on illegal immigrants.  I disagree with every republican policy except for the strong anti-illegal immigrant policy.  Drivers licenses, the ability to work, the ability to rent an apartment etc can and should be restricted to legal residents.  However, a public bathroom is a public bathroom.  Would you prohibit a European tourist from using a public bathroom?  Would you make them pay a fee to use it but exclude citizens from the fee?  Public bathrooms are just that- public.

here to help: If it was genuine sexual harassment then I'd be a lot less forgiving but from all accounts it really seemed like she was the pursuer and knew what she was doing.

Also still against the law if you're a CEO, again it goes to the power imbalance, you're not attractive for who you are, but what you are. It was dumb, and he should have (and was) smacked about for it, but not "removal from office" dumb.

here to help: Gore was no where near the statesman Clinton was and he likely would have been a one termer.

Best thing about Gore flipping his shiat was that he shed the robot image. But yeah, I never liked Tipper all that much for her censorship beliefs.

For all the "there's a legal way" people.

/There was also a legal way for a black person to sit on a bus.

dj245: Public bathrooms are just that- public nasty.

FTFY

Lucky it didnt come with an upper decker.

tricycleracer: For all the "there's a legal way" people.

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/throws race card to top it off

Seriously? It's not impossible and it's for good reasons that immigrating requires some effort. No developed country in the world just lets people walk in and start using public benefits and resources without some kind of process, most of which are far more onerous and restricted than the U.S.

Boojum2k: tricycleracer: For all the "there's a legal way" people.

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/throws race card to top it off

Seriously? It's not impossible and it's for good reasons that immigrating requires some effort. No developed country in the world just lets people walk in and start using public benefits and resources without some kind of process, most of which are far more onerous and restricted than the U.S.

But any asshole can add a child to the public assistance rolls by virtue of procreation.  God forbid we let in a person capable of earning a paycheck.

flynn80: Lucky it didnt come with an upper decker.

out of respect for the popular sports memorabilia producer Upper Deck, the term "upper decker" has been changed to "fishtank"

tricycleracer: Boojum2k: tricycleracer: For all the "there's a legal way" people.

[media2.policymic.com image 850x550]

/throws race card to top it off

Seriously? It's not impossible and it's for good reasons that immigrating requires some effort. No developed country in the world just lets people walk in and start using public benefits and resources without some kind of process, most of which are far more onerous and restricted than the U.S.

But any asshole can add a child to the public assistance rolls by virtue of procreation.  God forbid we let in a person capable of earning a paycheck.

We do.

tricycleracer: But any asshole can add a child to the public assistance rolls by virtue of procreation.

And we try to discourage this.

Boojum2k: tricycleracer: Boojum2k: tricycleracer: For all the "there's a legal way" people.

[media2.policymic.com image 850x550]

/throws race card to top it off

Seriously? It's not impossible and it's for good reasons that immigrating requires some effort. No developed country in the world just lets people walk in and start using public benefits and resources without some kind of process, most of which are far more onerous and restricted than the U.S.

But any asshole can add a child to the public assistance rolls by virtue of procreation.  God forbid we let in a person capable of earning a paycheck.

We do.

Software developers from India? Yes.  Lettuce pickers from Mexico? No, we do not.

The illustration I posted, from Reason (of all places) clearly shows this.

jshine: DarkVader: btfoom: I can't understand how so many folks just don't get the issue.

They are ILLEGALLY in this country, period.  No one said they can't come in, just have to do it legally.

They can't do it legally.  It's simply not possible.

So yeah, you can count yourself among those who just don't get the issue.

I've worked with lots of people here (in the US) on visas.  It's not impossible.  It may be difficult, but in either case -- difficult or impossible -- so be it.  It's not like there's some inalienable right to move to whatever country you feel like moving to.  If you disagree or feel the system is too restrictive, then (through your representatives in Congress) change the law.

And that is the discussion NOBODY on the pro-immigration side ever wants to have.

It's really pretty simple: there are more people in the world who want to move here than this country can sustain (economically, socially, etc.) - and if you disagree with that then you have no business being part of the discussion.  Given that fact, you have to have a process to let in the amount of people this country CAN sustain (per month, or per year, whatever).  EVERYBODY has to use that process, period.  If you get in, great!  Welcome to the U.S.  If you don't get in...sorry, but you don't get in, that's the way it HAS to be.  Now, if we aren't letting enough people in (every month, year, whatever)...then CHANGE THE LAW - BUT DON'T IGNORE IT.

Sorry, my bad, "You're a racist!" is easier.

Boojum2k: tricycleracer: Boojum2k: tricycleracer: For all the "there's a legal way" people.

[media2.policymic.com image 850x550]

/throws race card to top it off

Seriously? It's not impossible and it's for good reasons that immigrating requires some effort. No developed country in the world just lets people walk in and start using public benefits and resources without some kind of process, most of which are far more onerous and restricted than the U.S.

But any asshole can add a child to the public assistance rolls by virtue of procreation.  God forbid we let in a person capable of earning a paycheck.

We do.

They just hand out H1B1 visas?

Totally support this.  I won't have them riding around in our publicly owned police cars or using our publicly funded jail cells.  In fact, I refuse to let our public officials, cops and whatnot, spend any time on them; time is money!

I'm as opposed to illegal immigration as anyone, but isn't a law against using a public restroom a bit silly? I'd always rather someone used a restroom than take a piss on the side of a building.

There's an awful lot of people here who think the problem is the guy who gets paid \$3/hr to pick avocados, and not the guy who's paying him.

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: Sorry, my bad, "You're a racist!" is easier.

The anti-immigration crowd makes it pretty easy to say "you're a racist" by always pointing their ire towards the southern border.

Want to be taken seriously?  Oppose rich Europeans purchasing citizenship with the same passion.

btfoom: I can't understand how so many folks just don't get the issue.

They are ILLEGALLY in this country, period.  No one said they can't come in, just have to do it legally.

I agree, so if they're already here illegally, why create new laws when we could just enforce the laws we already have?

Anyone else see the parallel with the gun control debate?

Boojum2k: 2000 elections Democrats said "If only you had nominated McCain we'd have voted for him, he's a war hero and a moderate"
2008 elections Democrats said "If only you had nominated Romney we'd have voted for him, he was governor of Massachusetts and a moderate"
2012 elections was Huntsman's turn in the Democrat's Favorite Republican barrel.

Hi.

Most of us never said any sort of drivel like that. People who self identify as Democrats are probably not going to vote for a Republican president.

And BTW , no one has EVER like Mitt Romney, so I know you're full of shiat.

DarkVader: btfoom: I can't understand how so many folks just don't get the issue.

They are ILLEGALLY in this country, period.  No one said they can't come in, just have to do it legally.

They can't do it legally.  It's simply not possible.

So yeah, you can count yourself among those who just don't get the issue.

Why can't they? I personally know numerous people who have legally immigrated to this country from all over the world. Panama, Mexico, Canada, a country in Africa I don't recall the name of, India, Germany, England, New Zealand and I'm sure there are others. All of these are people who came here within the last 15 years.

tricycleracer: Want to be taken seriously?  Oppose rich Europeans purchasing citizenship with the same passion.

So this option is unavailable to people from Latin America?

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