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2014-02-12 03:13:00 PM  

Begoggle: btfoom: I can't understand how so many folks just don't get the issue.

They are ILLEGALLY in this country, period.  No one said they can't come in, just have to do it legally.

Are you here legally?
Show us the papers proving you are, before you can use our public facilities.


You know that's exactly what I had to do before I entered/left France last year.  They stamped my passport before I got in, and they checked how long I was there before I left.   So I got to use many of their public facilities, including the Eiffel Tower bathroom.
 
2014-02-12 03:13:59 PM  

here to help: However, I'm sorry, you have never struck me as a rational conservative.


Mainly because you have as much conservative in you as Jeb Eddy.

here to help: I mean... do you really think what this fellow has done here is a good use of government time/money?


I noted the law was unenforceable, and therefore stupid. Doesn't mean I agree with the open borders idiots.
 
2014-02-12 03:14:33 PM  

Smingleigh: But if they outlaw illegal immigrants using public toilets, then only outlaw illegal immigrants will use public toilets!


From my cold dead hands!
 
2014-02-12 03:15:06 PM  

rkiller1: Begoggle: btfoom: I can't understand how so many folks just don't get the issue.

They are ILLEGALLY in this country, period.  No one said they can't come in, just have to do it legally.

Are you here legally?
Show us the papers proving you are, before you can use our public facilities.

You know that's exactly what I had to do before I entered/left France last year.  They stamped my passport before I got in, and they checked how long I was there before I left.   So I got to use many of their public facilities, including the Eiffel Tower bathroom.


you haven't lived until you've used the bathroom in the basement of the Alamo.
 
2014-02-12 03:15:39 PM  

HighZoolander: btfoom: I can't understand how so many folks just don't get the issue.

They are ILLEGALLY in this country, period.  No one said they can't come in, just have to do it legally.


So  is the plan to set up a sting operation at a public restroom, and ask anyone who looks illegal to show papers?


Yes...but BEFORE they use the bathroom!!
Never pass up an opportunity for entertainment.

Seriously though, it seems like they will pass ALL the laws except the one that punishes the businesses that actually do hire illegals.


/I know one of you smart alecs is going to link to such a law
//now how about 'enforcing' said law
///stop linking
 
2014-02-12 03:16:09 PM  

here to help: Republicans LOVE "illegal" immigrants. They are a workforce that can be paid slave wages, have absolutely no bargaining leverage to change anything, can't vote against them and act as a bogeyman to scare cranky, stupid old white people who can vote FOR them.


This.

Immigration is just like Abortion for the Republicans. It's a an issue they use to bash Democrats in order to get elected. They don't give a shiat about either of those two except for political purposes. Otherwise, they would have tried to fix/stop them when they controlled Congress and the White House. Just like they've tried to repeal the ACA 40+ times. It's all show and it's done in an attempt to get elected. Fark the GOP and it's ignorant ass supporters.
 
2014-02-12 03:16:22 PM  

Stone Meadow: Silly? Really, subby? Sounds pretty farking appropriate to me.

/could be wrong, tho...dnrtfa


America in a nutshell:  "Sounds good to me, even though I freely and proudly admit I have no idea WTF I'm talking about."
 
2014-02-12 03:16:29 PM  

Isitoveryet: rkiller1: Begoggle: btfoom: I can't understand how so many folks just don't get the issue.

They are ILLEGALLY in this country, period.  No one said they can't come in, just have to do it legally.

Are you here legally?
Show us the papers proving you are, before you can use our public facilities.

You know that's exactly what I had to do before I entered/left France last year.  They stamped my passport before I got in, and they checked how long I was there before I left.   So I got to use many of their public facilities, including the Eiffel Tower bathroom.

you haven't lived until you've used the bathroom in the basement of the Alamo.


So you DO remember the Alamo.
 
2014-02-12 03:19:10 PM  
Oh great. Somewhere in AZ, a Latino is squatting over a hole in the floor.
 
2014-02-12 03:21:03 PM  

gshepnyc: This week I've heard:
1. AZ right winger wants to make it illegal for illegal immigrants to use public restrooms.
2. Florida right wingers make it illegal for homeless people to use blankets.
3. Maine right winger Gov. opposes life saving drug because he doesn't like the people who would get it.
4. Kansas right wingers in the state house press to make it legal to discriminate against gay people.

Conservatives deserve every bit of hate they get aimed at them. There is just no way to accept a political movement that has so given itself over to the joyful infliction of needless cruelty. No farking wonder they have to make voting harder. Cheating is the only option they will have left.


When a group gets this noisy with outlandish behavior, you have to believe they're considering other factors.  What they are, who knows.  Perhaps by conceding to debt ceiling changes, they believe they're owed favors and this is what they all came up with?  Perhaps they have no intention of passing these crazy laws but are priming their liberal counterparts to concede to something less crazyballs?
 
2014-02-12 03:21:14 PM  

penguinfark: Boojum2k: btfoom: I can't understand how so many folks just don't get the issue.

They are ILLEGALLY in this country, period.  No one said they can't come in, just have to do it legally.

They get it, but it doesn't help their cause, so they throw a bunch of FUD about racism and being anti-immigration instead of confronting that fact.

So if Canadians were coming into this country illegally in the same numbers as Hispanics do you think they would get the same sorts of treatment?


Jesus, don't give them any ideas!
 
2014-02-12 03:21:24 PM  

rkiller1: Begoggle: btfoom: I can't understand how so many folks just don't get the issue.

They are ILLEGALLY in this country, period.  No one said they can't come in, just have to do it legally.

Are you here legally?
Show us the papers proving you are, before you can use our public facilities.

You know that's exactly what I had to do before I entered/left France last year.  They stamped my passport before I got in, and they checked how long I was there before I left.   So I got to use many of their public facilities, including the Eiffel Tower bathroom.


You did not need to get a visa prior going to France, all you needed was a passport.  Even if a Mexican has a passport they have to get a visa.

Here is a list of countries that can come to the US without a visa.

http://www.immihelp.com/visa-waiver-program/
Oddly enough the majority are lily white with some only a lighter shade of brown or yellow.
 
2014-02-12 03:24:07 PM  

penguinfark: Boojum2k: btfoom: I can't understand how so many folks just don't get the issue.

They are ILLEGALLY in this country, period.  No one said they can't come in, just have to do it legally.

They get it, but it doesn't help their cause, so they throw a bunch of FUD about racism and being anti-immigration instead of confronting that fact.

So if Canadians were coming into this country illegally in the same numbers as Hispanics do you think they would get the same sorts of treatment?


Also, vaguely related, you reminded me of this poor behavior from Canada:
http://www.torontolife.com/informer/people/2014/02/11/avery-edison-t or onto-airport/
I'd hope she would have received better treatment in the U.S., but I doubt it. Haters suck.
 
2014-02-12 03:24:42 PM  

Perducci: That might take a way a union job. Can't have that.


Not a problem in Arizona.  The state is pretty anti-union.
 
2014-02-12 03:26:00 PM  

Maud Dib: Joe Blowme: sovereignty, how does it work?

Enlighten us. Please, proceed.

[www.lib.utexas.edu image 850x651]


eatrio.net
 
2014-02-12 03:26:12 PM  
This thread is turbocharged with about 10psi of 'tard.

/ potatoes per square inch
 
2014-02-12 03:26:48 PM  

Boojum2k: 2000 elections Democrats said "If only you had nominated McCain we'd have voted for him, he's a war hero and a moderate"
2008 elections Democrats said "If only you had nominated Romney we'd have voted for him, he was governor of Massachusetts and a moderate"



lol... WTF are you talking about? Why the hell would a democrat vote for any of those guys? They're f*cking DEMOCRATS!

Did you mean "liberal" or "left leaning moderate"?

Still though, I respect McCain and I think he could have done a decent job IF he wasn't tied to that god awful party. A perfect example of the man's principles shining through despite his marching orders was when he denounced the "Aey-rab" statement from that crazy lady. But he went right along with it up until then. He obviously knew it was wrong but did it anyway and when his conscious couldn't deal with it he spoke out at the worst possible time. And what did he get for his honesty? Booed... by his OWN SUPPORTERS!!!

Romney was just evil incarnate. There was absolutely nothing good about that guy and every time he spoke it was like he was talking down to everyone like the smarmy POS he is. He only cares about himself and made it perfectly clear he only holds contempt for anyone not with his own social strata. The sad part is the republican base are so blinded with hatred and ignorance they did not recognize this... and that is the scariest part of all.

The republicans need a complete overhaul and frankly I would LOVE to see that happen because their current insanity is allowing the so called "leftist" party move further and further right and tossing more and more resources at big business and nefarious authoritarian bullsh*t.

This is turning things into a ONE party system and THAT is f*cked. Completely f*cked.
 
2014-02-12 03:27:21 PM  

theflatline: Are you here legally?
Show us the papers proving you are, before you can use our public facilities.

You know that's exactly what I had to do before I entered/left France last year. They stamped my passport before I got in, and they checked how long I was there before I left. So I got to use many of their public facilities, including the Eiffel Tower bathroom.

You did not need to get a visa prior going to France, all you needed was a passport.


Yes, I provided papers (my passport is made of paper) before I got in.  No papers, no entry.  No entry, no free crappers.
 
2014-02-12 03:28:22 PM  

skozlaw: This thread is turbocharged with about 10psi of 'tard.

/ potatoes per square inch


Can I get cheese on those hashbrowns?  :D

/nomnom
 
2014-02-12 03:28:34 PM  

here to help: is allowing the so called "leftist" party move further and further right


Aaaand so much for your fiscal conservative claim.
 
2014-02-12 03:30:05 PM  

DarkVader: btfoom: I can't understand how so many folks just don't get the issue.

They are ILLEGALLY in this country, period.  No one said they can't come in, just have to do it legally.

They can't do it legally.  It's simply not possible.

So yeah, you can count yourself among those who just don't get the issue.



I've worked with lots of people here (in the US) on visas.  It's not impossible.  It may be difficult, but in either case -- difficult or impossible -- so be it.  It's not like there's some inalienable right to move to whatever country you feel like moving to.  If you disagree or feel the system is too restrictive, then (through your representatives in Congress) change the law.
 
2014-02-12 03:30:28 PM  

rkiller1: You did not need to get a visa prior going to France, all you needed was a passport.

Yes, I provided papers (my passport is made of paper) before I got in. No papers, no entry. No entry, no free crappers.


So are you really suggesting that it would be a valid use of resources for the US to have bathroom police to check the identity of everyone before they use a public toilet? (ps. no cheating and suggesting just stop the brown ones)
 
2014-02-12 03:30:54 PM  

Boojum2k: Doesn't mean I agree with the open borders idiots.


Did I say I was? Did I say you weren't?

NOW who's the idiot?

If you want to be a dumbass extremist go right ahead. Just stop crying about sh*t when you have zero real solutions and can't even be bothered to look at problems intelligently and objectively.
 
2014-02-12 03:32:49 PM  

rkiller1: We use words like "toilet", "crapper", "shaitter". We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something.  You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who pisses and craps in the public bathroom that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it! I would rather you just said "gracias", and via con Dios.


YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE POOP!
 
2014-02-12 03:33:23 PM  

theflatline: Oddly enough the majority are lily white with some only a lighter shade of brown or yellow.


So you see that list and what pops into your head has to do with race? Any other reason you can think of as to why those countries are in the program?
 
2014-02-12 03:33:29 PM  

here to help: If you want to be a dumbass extremist go right ahead.


Nah, you've got that covered.

Snark aside, you're okay. You remind me of Newmoonpuppyhead back in the day, great guy, solidly on the left and made good arguments.
 
2014-02-12 03:33:37 PM  

navanax: Stone Meadow: Silly? Really, subby? Sounds pretty farking appropriate to me.

/could be wrong, tho...dnrtfa

America in a nutshell:  "Sounds good to me, even though I freely and proudly admit I have no idea WTF I'm talking about."


Somebody sounds really, REALLY concerned.
 
2014-02-12 03:34:30 PM  

monoski: rkiller1: You did not need to get a visa prior going to France, all you needed was a passport.

Yes, I provided papers (my passport is made of paper) before I got in. No papers, no entry. No entry, no free crappers.

So are you really suggesting that it would be a valid use of resources for the US to have bathroom police to check the identity of everyone before they use a public toilet? (ps. no cheating and suggesting just stop the brown ones)



Of course not.  For one, bathrooms weren't the focus of the law in TFA, they're just an example of the most extreme possible interpretation of the law.  The real idea is probably more like a marijuana "tax" in states where it's illegal anyway -- i.e., it's a law designed to tack an additional charge on a person who is arrested for some other reason.
 
2014-02-12 03:34:32 PM  

monoski: rkiller1: You did not need to get a visa prior going to France, all you needed was a passport.

Yes, I provided papers (my passport is made of paper) before I got in. No papers, no entry. No entry, no free crappers.

So are you really suggesting that it would be a valid use of resources for the US to have bathroom police to check the identity of everyone before they use a public toilet? (ps. no cheating and suggesting just stop the brown ones)


Yes, that's EXACTLY what I'm saying.
And your crack about the "brown ones" is a superb bum pun.  +1 Internets for you today!
 
2014-02-12 03:34:36 PM  

Boojum2k: penguinfark: Boojum2k: btfoom: I can't understand how so many folks just don't get the issue.

They are ILLEGALLY in this country, period.  No one said they can't come in, just have to do it legally.

They get it, but it doesn't help their cause, so they throw a bunch of FUD about racism and being anti-immigration instead of confronting that fact.

So if Canadians were coming into this country illegally in the same numbers as Hispanics do you think they would get the same sorts of treatment?

Also, vaguely related, you reminded me of this poor behavior from Canada:
http://www.torontolife.com/informer/people/2014/02/11/avery-edison-t or onto-airport/
I'd hope she would have received better treatment in the U.S., but I doubt it. Haters suck.


Because she is white and transgendered she should get special treatment for trying to go back to a country where she broke the law by overstaying her visa?  She knowingly flew back and stepped off the plan without perhaps going to the Canadian Embassy in the UK, who would been happy to advise her her options?

Attention whoring at its finest.
 
2014-02-12 03:34:36 PM  

here to help: Boojum2k: Doesn't mean I agree with the open borders idiots.

Did I say I was? Did I say you weren't?

NOW who's the idiot?

HERE TO HELP

If you want to be a dumbass extremist go right ahead. Just stop crying about sh*t when you have zero real solutions and can't even be bothered to look at problems intelligently and objectively.

This is why you should not huff paint
 
2014-02-12 03:35:03 PM  

Boojum2k: 2000 elections Democrats said "If only you had nominated McCain we'd have voted for him, he's a war hero and a moderate"
2008 elections Democrats said "If only you had nominated Romney we'd have voted for him, he was governor of Massachusetts and a moderate"
2012 elections was Huntsman's turn in the Democrat's Favorite Republican barrel.


Well, please proceed with nominating more teabaggers for future elections then.
 
2014-02-12 03:35:07 PM  

felching pen: rkiller1: We use words like "toilet", "crapper", "shaitter". We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something.  You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who pisses and craps in the public bathroom that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it! I would rather you just said "gracias", and via con Dios.

YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE POOP!


+1
 
2014-02-12 03:35:25 PM  

Cashew: Damn latrinos.


Hispanic subatomic particles?
 
2014-02-12 03:36:08 PM  

penguinfark: So if Canadians were coming into this country illegally in the same numbers as Hispanics do you think they would get the same sorts of treatment?


We can't get Justin Boober out fast enough!
 
2014-02-12 03:36:50 PM  

theflatline: Attention whoring at its finest.


The issue over her visa is one thing, and could be handled administratively as again it is a civil matter. The treatment she is receiving is abhorrent, however.
 
2014-02-12 03:36:56 PM  

Boojum2k: here to help: is allowing the so called "leftist" party move further and further right

Aaaand so much for your fiscal conservative claim.


You do realize that spending has been reduced significantly since the evil blah man took office, right? You do realize that the last guy you had in office was bleeding money more than any administration ever has since WWII right? You do realize that at least one of the wars he started was completely unnecessary and he knew that, right? You do realize that the admittedly insane amount of spending currently going on is a direct result of those wars and a global financial collapse that was caused by your guys clawing back regulations designed to prevent such things, right?

I could go on but I'm sure you've got some more pearls of wisdom to respond with so I'll sit here and wait. Perhaps our friend Joe would like to chime in as well.
 
2014-02-12 03:37:52 PM  

innumerate: I can't wait until Rep. Carl Seel wakes up to a giant steaming turd on his front lawn, courtesy of an illegal immigrant.


Guess who'll be the one who will have to clean it up?  Hint: Who do people hire to landscape and mow their lawns?
 
2014-02-12 03:38:29 PM  

felching pen: Cashew: Damn latrinos.

Hispanic subatomic particles?


I think i say them in a Star Trek episode, Q made them i think
 
2014-02-12 03:38:59 PM  

Boojum2k: Snark aside, you're okay.


Well I am, of course... *shades*... here to help.

yyyyyeeeeeaaaahhhhhh!!!!!
 
2014-02-12 03:39:06 PM  

trappedspirit: penguinfark: So if Canadians were coming into this country illegally in the same numbers as Hispanics do you think they would get the same sorts of treatment?

We can't get Justin Boober out fast enough!


News Flash: it's now Justin BIZZLE (Boober is so January):  http://metro.co.uk/2014/02/11/justin-bieber-annoys-lethel-bizzle-with - bizzle-name-change-4300103/
 
2014-02-12 03:39:59 PM  

here to help: Boojum2k: here to help: is allowing the so called "leftist" party move further and further right

Aaaand so much for your fiscal conservative claim.


You do realize that spending has been reduced significantly since the evil blah man took office, right? You do realize that the last guy you had in office was bleeding money more than any administration ever has since WWII right? You do realize that at least one of the wars he started was completely unnecessary and he knew that, right? You do realize that the admittedly insane amount of spending currently going on is a direct result of those wars and a global financial collapse that was caused by your guys clawing back regulations designed to prevent such things, right?

I could go on but I'm sure you've got some more pearls of wisdom to respond with so I'll sit here and wait. Perhaps our friend Joe would like to chime in as well.


I was wrong.... THIS is why you should not huff paint
 
2014-02-12 03:40:57 PM  

Joe Blowme: here to help: Boojum2k: Doesn't mean I agree with the open borders idiots.

Did I say I was? Did I say you weren't?

NOW who's the idiot?HERE TO HELP

If you want to be a dumbass extremist go right ahead. Just stop crying about sh*t when you have zero real solutions and can't even be bothered to look at problems intelligently and objectively.

This is why you should not huff paint


Way to make sense, Joe. Keep up the good work.
 
2014-02-12 03:41:28 PM  

here to help: You do realize that spending has been reduced significantly since the evil blah man took office, right?


Not so significantly
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:CBO_-_Revenues_and_Outlays_as_perc en t_GDP.svg

And our President's race does not, nor should it shield him from criticism. He's got his good points and his bad points, and frankly the last four presidents before him were better in general, in Clinton's case far far better.
 
2014-02-12 03:41:37 PM  

penguinfark: So if Canadians were coming into this country illegally in the same numbers as Hispanics do you think they would get the same sorts of treatment?


If they were Québecois, yes.  If they were "regular" white Canadians who speak English, no one would give a damn.
 
2014-02-12 03:42:23 PM  

here to help: Joe Blowme: here to help: Boojum2k: Doesn't mean I agree with the open borders idiots.

Did I say I was? Did I say you weren't?

NOW who's the idiot?HERE TO HELP

If you want to be a dumbass extremist go right ahead. Just stop crying about sh*t when you have zero real solutions and can't even be bothered to look at problems intelligently and objectively.

This is why you should not huff paint

Way to make sense, Joe. Keep up the good work.


Glad i could help
 
2014-02-12 03:42:39 PM  

Perducci: Honest Bender: If you're spending your time passing legislation like this, then you obviously don't have enough work to do. Come with me. We're going to find you a mop. I'm sure the janitor would love some help mopping out the bathrooms.

That might take a way a union job. Can't have that.


The immigrants already have all the union jobs though, so they can clean the restroom just not use it.
 
2014-02-12 03:43:13 PM  

SpaceBison: Sorry what? I was distracted by this picture in the sidebar.
[images.outbrain.com image 185x145]


Gold medal didn't go here?
 
2014-02-12 03:44:19 PM  

Boojum2k: theflatline: Attention whoring at its finest.

The issue over her visa is one thing, and could be handled administratively as again it is a civil matter. The treatment she is receiving is abhorrent, however.


REally, letting her keep her phone and tweet the entire matter, placing her in a womens facility, feeding her, and letting her whine about the entire process, that is abhorrent?  This happens to anyone.  She knew better than to go after she overstayed her visa.

Look, I flew into Colombia once with only my American passport, when legally as a dual citizen I am supposed to carry my Colombian papers and enter and leave as a Colombian.

So, I got caught.  I had to go through an hour grilling, a stomach x-ray, and a strip search.  But I knew that if I got caught that would happen, but I never biatched it.
 
2014-02-12 03:44:21 PM  

Joe Blowme: I was wrong.... THIS is why you should not huff paint


And the hits keep comin'.

I wonder how balls deep we'd be in Iran right now if Mr. Mitt had gotten the helm? He seem to have some major beef with Chinamen too. What was that all about?

Oh and ships for some reason. Makes lots of sense considering most of America's enemies are currently living in deserts.

Wait... Mitt? Is that you?
 
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