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(The Drinks Business)   Obama serves Hollande 'cheap' US wine   (thedrinksbusiness.com) divider line 115
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2014-02-12 02:39:00 PM  
Seriously, give Hollande a few boxes to take home and top it with a free "Boone's Farm Strawberry" t-shirt.
 
2014-02-12 02:56:45 PM  

Via Infinito: Bareefer Obonghit: Headline if Obama would have served expensive wine:

'Obama uses tax payer money to fund extravagant wine party for FRENCHman!'

Yup. Pretty much this.


Exactly this.
 
2014-02-12 03:16:42 PM  

nyseattitude: He's saving the good stuff to celebrate his declaration of Marshal Law


??? http://www.rpgnow.com/product/125623/Super-Powered-Operation-Marshal-L aw
 
2014-02-12 03:24:48 PM  

ambercat: PunGent: nulluspixiusdemonica: LasersHurt:  Nothing retarded there.

 Aside from the blogger who's entire piece is about the horror of "cheap" wine, but then gets all kerfuffled and blurts out:
"they really should showcase the best of what America is making, irrespective of price"

Thing is, where wine is concerned, price is absolutely meaningless when you're talking flavour. If you're talking over-priced fermented grape-sauce marketed at pretentious dbags, plenty. Taste, nada...

This.  My current favorite is under ten bucks a bottle at Trader Joes, and I've had $150 dollar bottles of wine that impressed me less.

Not everyone's palate is identical...

Yup. They've done numerous studies on this, and in blind taste tests people can't actually tell expensive wines from cheap ones. They've had people rate wine after being told the price, and if people are told a certain wine is expensive, they will rate it more favorably than people tasting the same wine but being told it is cheap. I think I recall that some scientists think it really does taste better to people because they are anticipating it. Whatever the case, price and taste are definately not directly correlated. Now, I'd say you're more likely to find a better bottle in the $10-30 range than $3-5, but once you get above that, you're paying for the bottle rather than the quality of the wine inside.


For those of you looking for good American wines at a reasonable price, you might want to check out "Oz & James's Big Wine Adventure:  The New World."  In which James May (yes, Top Gear's James May) gets taken around California wine country by wine expert Oz Clarke.  James's main goal is trying to find quality wines for under £10.  Oz's main goal is to try to drive some wine knowledge into Mr. May's head.  There's also a drag race and bumper cars.
 
2014-02-12 03:44:32 PM  

ambercat: PunGent: nulluspixiusdemonica: LasersHurt:  Nothing retarded there.

 Aside from the blogger who's entire piece is about the horror of "cheap" wine, but then gets all kerfuffled and blurts out:
"they really should showcase the best of what America is making, irrespective of price"

Thing is, where wine is concerned, price is absolutely meaningless when you're talking flavour. If you're talking over-priced fermented grape-sauce marketed at pretentious dbags, plenty. Taste, nada...

This.  My current favorite is under ten bucks a bottle at Trader Joes, and I've had $150 dollar bottles of wine that impressed me less.

Not everyone's palate is identical...

Yup. They've done numerous studies on this, and in blind taste tests people can't actually tell expensive wines from cheap ones. They've had people rate wine after being told the price, and if people are told a certain wine is expensive, they will rate it more favorably than people tasting the same wine but being told it is cheap. I think I recall that some scientists think it really does taste better to people because they are anticipating it. Whatever the case, price and taste are definately not directly correlated. Now, I'd say you're more likely to find a better bottle in the $10-30 range than $3-5, but once you get above that, you're paying for the bottle rather than the quality of the wine inside.


I am one of those people. It all tastes like spoiled grape juice to me. I do love a good scotch which is never cheap and I am sure there are people out there that CAN taste the very subtle flavors that get tossed about in wine, but I am not those people. Give me a decent tequila, never a Jose Cuervo product please, and a cool bottle of Newcastle and I am happy happy happy
 
2014-02-12 03:53:10 PM  
Maybe we could serve the Dutch Douchebags some propofol in their wine. That is if the EU doesn't protest the use of a product that was purchased from them, but which they wish to dictate how, when and upon whom it is used.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/09/missouri-return-propofo l- execution
 
2014-02-12 04:41:27 PM  

Rapmaster2000: Boozefact:  the French drink a lot of cheap wine, and these are all decent bottles.  Hollande didn't care.


this.  the french make a lot of good cheap wine and a lot of swill too, just like here.  if you haven't found it you're not trying hard enough.  not everything that comes out of france is great.  anybody who's ever driven a renault alliance knows why it got nicknamed the "appliance".
 
2014-02-12 04:53:21 PM  
Look at 'em, eating crackers like he owns the place...
 
2014-02-12 06:06:47 PM  

Bareefer Obonghit: Headline if Obama would have served expensive wine:

'Obama uses tax payer money to fund extravagant wine party for FRENCHman!'


Indeed.  If Obama served anything more expensive than Thunderbird, the taxpayers got ripped off.
 
2014-02-12 07:52:51 PM  

Dwight_Yeast: For a State Dinner there's a budget.  They don't simply go out and buy the most expensive wine in America; they buy the best in the price range for the meal.  They also (especially if we're entertaining the French) make the extra effort to prove that our food and wine are just as good as theirs (which is pretty much true at this point; it wasn't 50 years ago).

Contrast that with the UK: when the Queen holds a State DInner, she has cellars originally stocked by George III to draw on.  Her annual budget for Moet & Chandon alone is staggering; she gets to buy it from the Home Office who buy it in bulk from the French (and the Home Office has its own cellars which stock all of HM's goverment!).

/Somewhere, deep under London, there's enough booze to float the Queen Mary.
//Also the ship of the same name.


And your point is?
 
2014-02-12 08:00:52 PM  
Yup, I saw he POTUS picking these out at Trader Joe's with my own eyes, right after he was done reviewing leave requests for department of state employees in Vienna.
 
2014-02-13 02:03:51 AM  
'Speaking of Amontillado, Obama should invite the guys who shut down the Government into the sub-basement of the White House to sample an extra fine keg of the stuff he was given by King Juan Carlos of Spain".

This would be a great plot for a tv show, or a short story. Starring John Boehner as Fortunado.
 
2014-02-13 02:45:03 AM  
Or he coulda gone all-American and went with:

www.bumwine.com

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And some of our own traditional cheeses to go with it:

www.gourmetsleuth.com

clatl.com
 
2014-02-13 02:53:09 AM  
Choice of wine was to make Hollande compare to a bordeaux and think it might be better.
I followed one of the wines to a site with tasting notes.....
2011 Morlet Family Vineyards La Proportion Doree

http://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=1576662

"excellent for those who admire white bordeaux."

92 points, fair choice, be glad it wasn't in a box, and the bottle label looked stately as well.

If it were $200/bottle, there would be a media circus about taxpayer money.
Saw posts earlier on that.

Perhaps the leaders discussed the wine.....
 
2014-02-13 02:52:34 PM  

tricycleracer: Rapmaster2000: Boozefact:  the French drink a lot of cheap wine, and these are all decent bottles.  Hollande didn't care.

Cheap wine in plastic bottles, no less:



When i was living in Florence, There was a guy down the block who sold wine out of his garage. He didnt have it bottled, so you brought him whatever liquid-holding container you could find, and he'd fill if for you from the barrels for 3euro (for a 2L size bottle) and that was some tasty shiat.
 
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