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(The Drinks Business)   Obama serves Hollande 'cheap' US wine   (thedrinksbusiness.com) divider line 115
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2014-02-12 09:49:35 AM  
Carthax:

My wife's aunt is really, really good at finding very tasty bottles of wine for under $10.  One of the best merlots I ever drank cost $4.99 at the liquor store.  One of the worst merlots I ever drank cost $138 at a fancy "Italian" restaurant.

Your wife's aunt should start a blog. I mean that seriously, people would read it if she's good at it. I haven't tasted any good wines that cheap, but I've found good ones for about $9.
 
2014-02-12 09:50:00 AM  
We produce caviar??
 
2014-02-12 09:51:36 AM  
Hollande was overheard saying "Merci, Obama".
 
2014-02-12 09:53:42 AM  

LasersHurt: One blogger feels he should have spent more? Regardless of the quality of the wine, just the raw cost alone?

Nothing retarded there.


One of the many lessons my father taught me was "what's the difference between the $50 bottle of wine and $300 bottle of wine.... 250 bucks."

Not always the case but you can usually find cheaper wine that is as good or better than the really expensive stuff.
 
2014-02-12 10:02:54 AM  
Wine snob here!

Unless someone tells you before hand, 99.99% of wine experts will not be able to tell the difference between a 30 dollar, 50 dollar, 100 dollar, or 1000 dollar bottle of wine.  A lot of the price is based on reputation and knowledge of the brand.

Also, you know damn well people would biatch more if they served more expensive wines.
 
2014-02-12 10:07:12 AM  

sxacho: PunGent: nulluspixiusdemonica: LasersHurt:  Nothing retarded there.

 Aside from the blogger who's entire piece is about the horror of "cheap" wine, but then gets all kerfuffled and blurts out:
"they really should showcase the best of what America is making, irrespective of price"

Thing is, where wine is concerned, price is absolutely meaningless when you're talking flavour. If you're talking over-priced fermented grape-sauce marketed at pretentious dbags, plenty. Taste, nada...

This.  My current favorite is under ten bucks a bottle at Trader Joes, and I've had $150 dollar bottles of wine that impressed me less.

Not everyone's palate is identical...

One of the absolute best wines I've had was a Romanian red that I found in a $3 bargain bin at a local shop. I've never seen it again and I lost the label, so I have no idea what it was. But yeah, Romanian.


That was like a gift from the farking wine fairy, my friend. Such a thing only happens when the stars are aligned and is meant to be enjoyed in the now and then fondly remembered.
 
2014-02-12 10:13:54 AM  

grokca: Wineghazi, or is it Whineghazi?


Hollande ordered the fish.
 
2014-02-12 10:15:05 AM  

BigNumber12: We produce caviar??


Back in the 19th century caviar was so common in the United States that saloons would give it away free with beer to get people thirsty and make them drink more. Of course we'd nearly wiped out the country's lake sturgeon population by the early 20th century, but there has been a big comeback for several species over the last few decades.
 
2014-02-12 10:17:35 AM  

CaliNJGuy: What's the word?


Bird.
 
2014-02-12 10:19:01 AM  

ambercat: Carthax:

My wife's aunt is really, really good at finding very tasty bottles of wine for under $10.  One of the best merlots I ever drank cost $4.99 at the liquor store.  One of the worst merlots I ever drank cost $138 at a fancy "Italian" restaurant.

Your wife's aunt should start a blog. I mean that seriously, people would read it if she's good at it. I haven't tasted any good wines that cheap, but I've found good ones for about $9.


LOL We just managed to get her on Facebook about 6 months ago, and she has posted, oh, maybe three times.  The only way she can send someone an email is to reply to one they've already sent her.  In short, asking her to write a blog is a bit of a stretch.  :-)
 
2014-02-12 10:20:26 AM  
Yeah, they retail for $125. But this is the government we are talking about; those wines were sold through a contractor to a contractor to a no-bid contract for White House supplies and so on. So many people have had their hands in the cash by the time they reached the table that the wine actually cost $100,000 a bottle, making it a very expensive wine.
 
2014-02-12 10:21:09 AM  

Carthax: unlike wine snobs, who biatch if their bottle of wine doesn't cost at least $50.


Fair point.  I'm just weary of all the posturing over things are made to be enjoyed.  Wine, beer, food, cars...
 
2014-02-12 10:24:24 AM  
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Not bad if you are willing to lower yourself to drinking California wine and paying only $2,000 per bottle.
 
2014-02-12 10:28:32 AM  
He should grateful it wasn't a can of pbr or Boones farm. Dirty frog. Wait who the fark is complaining about this.
 
2014-02-12 10:36:41 AM  

Carthax: CaliNJGuy: What's the word?

Bird.


price?
 
2014-02-12 10:41:54 AM  
Blogger is right. Bad call. It would have been better to bring in a dozen bottles of cheap plonk and some plastic cups to drink out of so everyone could get well properly pished.
 
2014-02-12 10:42:17 AM  

CaliNJGuy: Carthax: CaliNJGuy: What's the word?

Bird.

price?


Thirty twice.

How's it sold?
 
2014-02-12 10:46:40 AM  

Coniuratos: Is the President really the guy to blame for the wine at dinner? I assume the White House has a sommelier or something who actually made these decisions.


Mr. Right: JosephFinn: Note how the blogger or anyone quoted had nothing to say about whether the wine was any good.

Bingo.  One has to wonder exactly how much of a wine expert this guy is if his primary criteria is price.

Also, I doubt you can blame Obama or Michelle for the wine.  Obama's involvement was probably limited to "make sure it's American" and Michelle (if she is like most other First Ladies) simply approved the menu that the executive chef presented.  I think that Jacqueline Kennedy was the last First Lady who knew enough about any kind of cuisine or wine to be heavily involved in menu planning and wine selection for an event like a State Dinner.


FTFA: These are odd wines to serve at a state dinner. Obama seems to have made a conscious choice to bring down the price of the wine, which is unfortunate," wine writer Tyler Colman mused on his Dr.Vino blog.

Neither Tyler Colman, Mr.Right, nor Conjuratos were at the dinner. And yet, two of them seem to understand the truth. Unfortunately, it is Mr. Colman who got his "reality" published. Conclusion: Mr. Right and Conjuratos should now be allowed to write the Dr. Vino blog.
 
2014-02-12 10:46:50 AM  

Gonz: CaliNJGuy: Carthax: CaliNJGuy: What's the word?

Bird.

price?

Thirty twice.

How's it sold?


What's the word? Thunderbird. How's it sold? Good and cold. What's the jive? Bird's alive. What's the price? Thirty twice.
 
2014-02-12 10:47:11 AM  
My new gf is a big wine drinker and now we mix our own:
cache.wine.comwww.totalwine.com

The Pacific Rim is very sweet but it's only 4.5% I think.

The Fish Eye is dryer but comes in around 9.5% I believe.

We mix these 50/50 and it's pretty farking awesome.
 
2014-02-12 10:53:19 AM  
Well it's always appropriate to server wine that matches your guests.
 
2014-02-12 10:56:12 AM  
Obama has been accused by the Washington Examiner of "going down the Costco route."

?

Costco sells really, really expensive wine. It's well-known for it excellent selection of wine.
You can buy $800 bottles of wine at Costco.

Has this guy ever been to a Costco?
 
2014-02-12 10:57:58 AM  
Clearly, he should be impeached for this.
 
2014-02-12 10:59:01 AM  
Only to people without real taste equate cost to quality.
 
2014-02-12 11:01:33 AM  
I've had the Thibaut-Janisson Blanc de Chardonnay. Them shiats delicious.
 
2014-02-12 11:04:24 AM  

LandOfChocolate: Thibaut-Janisson

This stuff is damned good, especially for Virginia wine.


You know the Vanderbilt Winery in NC has a great claret for about $30 a bottle.
Definitely primo for the price. their champagne was good too.
All American winery run by the son of a fifth generation French vintner.
Hard to beat.
 
2014-02-12 11:07:58 AM  

Bareefer Obonghit: Headline if Obama would have served expensive wine:

'Obama uses tax payer money to fund extravagant wine party for FRENCHman!'


Absof*ckinglutely.
 
2014-02-12 11:13:22 AM  
Two dollar chuck
Two dollar chuck
Two dollar chuck

"It's a naive domestic Burgundy without any breeding, but I think you'll be amused by its presumption." --James Thurber, Cartoon caption, 1944

Valvoline with a shot chaser of hot taco sauce is good enough for Zippy the Pinhead.

Price is no predictor of quality. The finest old vintages go off, while even cheap vin ordinaire can be thoroughly enjoyable.

Personally I have too many Methodists, Baptists and Quakers in my family tree to care much about wine. I tried to drink some for my health but I couldn't keep it up. I'd be better off drinking my bottle of single malt Scotch or the Amontillado but I don't even touch that much.

I wish Obama would get his act together and serve only outragiously expensive and rare French wines, Malt Liquor, Cristal Champagne, Jaegermeister, and Purple Jesus made with Grape Soda. The objective of his wine policy should be to cause as many apoplectic fits among Republicans as possible.

Speaking of Amontillado, Obama should invite the guys who shut down the Government into the sub-basement of the White House to sample an extra fine keg of the stuff he was given by King Juan Carlos of Spain.

I wonder if partisan nitpickers realize that every time they try to make a scandal out of minutia (especially social minutia) they are setting the standards by which their own Shibboleths will be judged?
 
2014-02-12 11:15:06 AM  
"...they really should showcase the best of what America is making, irrespective of price."

While technically correct, this usage really grates on my nerves. What's wrong with "without regard to?" Stupid passive voice.

Also, who says the White House's sommelier didn't showcase what he or she considered the best of what America is making...that is also suitable for serving with a red meat main course to a flagrantly cheating bastard of a French president.

Costco route, indeed. They can return the empty bottles later and get a refund. Take that, European austerity measures! Wine for president of France: $0, wine afficionado hemming and hawing: Priceless.
 
2014-02-12 11:18:43 AM  
Boozefact:  the French drink a lot of cheap wine, and these are all decent bottles.  Hollande didn't care.
 
2014-02-12 11:23:12 AM  

Rapmaster2000: Boozefact:  the French drink a lot of cheap wine, and these are all decent bottles.  Hollande didn't care.


Cheap wine in plastic bottles, no less:

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2014-02-12 11:26:08 AM  
littleitalykissimmee.com

Cheap and really tasty.
 
2014-02-12 11:44:38 AM  
Cousin Frank doesn't give a shiat. He just wants to party.
 
2014-02-12 11:44:58 AM  

Sybarite: BigNumber12: We produce caviar??

Back in the 19th century caviar was so common in the United States that saloons would give it away free with beer to get people thirsty and make them drink more. Of course we'd nearly wiped out the country's lake sturgeon population by the early 20th century, but there has been a big comeback for several species over the last few decades.


They also used to serve lobster to prisoners on the east coast because it was so common and cheap. There are records of riots because prisoners thought they were being served too much lobster.

Sometimes it's hard to imagine how much natural resources we've squandered.
 
2014-02-12 12:01:37 PM  
If Obama wanted a laugh, he could've gone with Chilean wine:
www.seriouseats.com
 
2014-02-12 12:04:37 PM  
gee, maybe they're wines Obama actually likes and thought he'd share.
 
2014-02-12 12:19:35 PM  
Wait till Fox gets ahold of this.

-  If Obama serves "cheap" wine - Fox News "this is an outrage"

-  If Obama serves "expensive" wine - Fox News "this is an outrage"

Remeber the bullshiat rage about arugula and brown mustard.
 
2014-02-12 12:21:05 PM  

nulluspixiusdemonica: LasersHurt:  Nothing retarded there.

 Aside from the blogger who's entire piece is about the horror of "cheap" wine, but then gets all kerfuffled and blurts out:
"they really should showcase the best of what America is making, irrespective of price"

Thing is, where wine is concerned, price is absolutely meaningless when you're talking flavour. If you're talking over-priced fermented grape-sauce marketed at pretentious dbags, plenty. Taste, nada...


Clearly the writer has never had some of the American wines that are 'cheap' ($20 a bottle) and yet fantastic. He's also completely oblivious to the fact that every wine mentioned in the piece is made by a French winemaker who has repatriated to the United States and now makes 'cheap' American wines.
 
2014-02-12 12:24:19 PM  

Carthax: ambercat: PunGent: nulluspixiusdemonica: LasersHurt:  Nothing retarded there.

 Aside from the blogger who's entire piece is about the horror of "cheap" wine, but then gets all kerfuffled and blurts out:
"they really should showcase the best of what America is making, irrespective of price"

Thing is, where wine is concerned, price is absolutely meaningless when you're talking flavour. If you're talking over-priced fermented grape-sauce marketed at pretentious dbags, plenty. Taste, nada...

This.  My current favorite is under ten bucks a bottle at Trader Joes, and I've had $150 dollar bottles of wine that impressed me less.

Not everyone's palate is identical...

Yup. They've done numerous studies on this, and in blind taste tests people can't actually tell expensive wines from cheap ones. They've had people rate wine after being told the price, and if people are told a certain wine is expensive, they will rate it more favorably than people tasting the same wine but being told it is cheap. I think I recall that some scientists think it really does taste better to people because they are anticipating it. Whatever the case, price and taste are definately not directly correlated. Now, I'd say you're more likely to find a better bottle in the $10-30 range than $3-5, but once you get above that, you're paying for the bottle rather than the quality of the wine inside.

My wife's aunt is really, really good at finding very tasty bottles of wine for under $10.  One of the best merlots I ever drank cost $4.99 at the liquor store.  One of the worst merlots I ever drank cost $138 at a fancy "Italian" restaurant.


My favorite merlot is a $10 called "Sweet biatch." It's--as the name indicates--slightly sweet, but pairs very well with most italian dishes.
 
2014-02-12 12:52:49 PM  
FTA "We Americans have grown to love all things French - the films, the food, the wine - especially the wine," he said.

WTF? I'd take Italian of all three way before French.
 
2014-02-12 12:55:24 PM  
Ah yes, but no more 1966. Lets splurge! Bring us some fresh wine! The freshest you've got - this year! No more of this old stuff.

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2014-02-12 12:56:07 PM  
FTFA:

"We Americans have grown to love all things French - the films, the food, the wine - especially the wine," [Obama] said.

I'm more offended by this than his wine choices.
 
2014-02-12 12:57:45 PM  

ambercat: PunGent: nulluspixiusdemonica: LasersHurt:  Nothing retarded there.

 Aside from the blogger who's entire piece is about the horror of "cheap" wine, but then gets all kerfuffled and blurts out:
"they really should showcase the best of what America is making, irrespective of price"

Thing is, where wine is concerned, price is absolutely meaningless when you're talking flavour. If you're talking over-priced fermented grape-sauce marketed at pretentious dbags, plenty. Taste, nada...

This.  My current favorite is under ten bucks a bottle at Trader Joes, and I've had $150 dollar bottles of wine that impressed me less.

Not everyone's palate is identical...

Yup. They've done numerous studies on this, and in blind taste tests people can't actually tell expensive wines from cheap ones. They've had people rate wine after being told the price, and if people are told a certain wine is expensive, they will rate it more favorably than people tasting the same wine but being told it is cheap. I think I recall that some scientists think it really does taste better to people because they are anticipating it. Whatever the case, price and taste are definately not directly correlated. Now, I'd say you're more likely to find a better bottle in the $10-30 range than $3-5, but once you get above that, you're paying for the bottle rather than the quality of the wine inside.


And then there's the "experts can't always tell red from white" study:

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/frontal-cortex/2012/06/wine-ta st e.html
 
2014-02-12 12:59:30 PM  
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Obscure?
 
2014-02-12 01:17:58 PM  

Prince George: FTA "We Americans have grown to love all things French - the films, the food, the wine - especially the wine," he said.

WTF? I'd take Italian of all three way before French.


Yes, because you can only like films, food and wine from one country. So since you prefer Italian, everything French sucks.
 
2014-02-12 01:33:13 PM  

Nesher: Neither Tyler Colman, Mr.Right, nor Conjuratos were at the dinner. And yet, two of them seem to understand the truth. Unfortunately, it is Mr. Colman who got his "reality" published. Conclusion: Mr. Right and Conjuratos should now be allowed to write the Dr. Vino blog.


Not sure if I want to write a wine blog.  More into craft beer pairings lately.  But I'll give kudos to the White House policy under Obama of featuring American food.  I'm especially impressed that the farms that raised/produced the food were named.  Long-time societal proclivities for Micky D's and Natty Light notwithstanding, there is a craft food culture growing in the country that produces quality food and drink every bit as good as any country in the world.  We've done the self-flagellation about the miserable state of mass-produced foodstuffs, and a lot of the criticism was warranted.  When the White House executive chef and his staff can come up with the menu they did for that State Dinner and the primary directive from the Obamas to make it American can be followed, that should be a proud moment for anyone who cares about the quality of food and beverage in this country.
 
2014-02-12 01:47:05 PM  
No, I've never tried a french wine I liked and I'd take pruno over any champagne I've had. The food I've tried was pretty good but nothing too exciting.  The movies are mostly pretentious crap not that I've sat through more that a couple. I'd rather watch a Kurosawa movie or anything with Toshiro Mifune in it. There are also a lot of good German English and Chinese movies that I've seen.  French, not so much.  Plenty of good German wines too for that matter.

Mostly I'm just saying I don't really see people eating up the French culture around here so I don't know who the author thinks he's speaking for.
 
2014-02-12 01:58:05 PM  

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Pfft! Typical cheese eating surrender monkeys. We don't need Paris to judge our wines.


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...and you're good.
 
2014-02-12 01:58:45 PM  

Prince George: No, I've never tried a french wine I liked and I'd take pruno over any champagne I've had. The food I've tried was pretty good but nothing too exciting.  The movies are mostly pretentious crap not that I've sat through more that a couple. I'd rather watch a Kurosawa movie or anything with Toshiro Mifune in it. There are also a lot of good German English and Chinese movies that I've seen.  French, not so much.  Plenty of good German wines too for that matter.

Mostly I'm just saying I don't really see people eating up the French culture around here so I don't know who the author thinks he's speaking for.


My bad, Obama said that. I should have read the article closer. Sorry I blamed the author.  I know Obama doesn't have a clue so that explains the statement.
 
2014-02-12 02:08:02 PM  
The Washington wine is made by the guy who sold Chte St. Michelle to Altria.  His name is poison to Washington Wines.
 
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