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(The New York Times)   Michael Sam's father didn't take his son's coming out well because he's an old-school family-values type who flies his children to Mexico to lose his virginity to a prostitute. Wait, what?   (nytimes.com) divider line 64
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2014-02-11 11:37:41 PM
That is kind of a weird way to tell your dad your gay.
 
2014-02-11 11:44:49 PM

DamnYankees: That is kind of a weird way to tell your dad your gay.


Sam doesn't have a close relationship with his family.
 
2014-02-11 11:47:52 PM

Mentat: DamnYankees: That is kind of a weird way to tell your dad your gay.

Sam doesn't have a close relationship with his family.


Evidently.
 
2014-02-11 11:51:14 PM

DamnYankees: That is kind of a weird way to tell your dad your gay.


Dad seems like Grade A wack job anyhow.
 
2014-02-11 11:53:50 PM
Is he interested in adopting?
 
2014-02-12 01:08:26 AM
Kluwe told him he would not have many problems with players. "They're there to play football," he said.

Maybe on the field, but this kid could cause problems in the showers. Not because he's gay, because he's from Hitchcock:
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2014-02-12 02:20:42 AM

Paris1127: Kluwe told him he would not have many problems with players. "They're there to play football," he said.

Maybe on the field, but this kid could cause problems in the showers. Not because he's gay, because he's from Hitchcock:
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I heard a clip of Barkley going off about this earlier last evening. Pretty funny. But not as funny as that. Nice.
 
2014-02-12 03:37:57 AM
static01.nyt.com

Yo, Kool-aid!

With a high school coach that looks like this, I'm surprised he wasn't scared straight
 
2014-02-12 04:16:12 AM
cotton hill approves
 
2014-02-12 04:21:57 AM
Who?
 
2014-02-12 04:24:28 AM
Sounds like the crackerjack that he bought his son might have had an extra prize in it.
 
2014-02-12 05:21:56 AM
If this kid is a tweener DE who could be converted to OLB, and put up player of the year numbers in a tough conference, and is projected to go in third through fifth rounds, then Ted Thompson will agonize over picking him or passing on him starting with the 4th or 5th, and then if he's still there trade up in the 6th to take him. Fans of other teams, how do you think your team's GM thinks about this?
 
2014-02-12 05:29:04 AM

ghostfacekillahrabbit: If this kid is a tweener DE who could be converted to OLB, and put up player of the year numbers in a tough conference, and is projected to go in third through fifth rounds, then Ted Thompson will agonize over picking him or passing on him starting with the 4th or 5th, and then if he's still there trade up in the 6th to take him. Fans of other teams, how do you think your team's GM thinks about this?


I mean about Sam, and Ted loves to pick every sort of tweener DE-OLB with a hard-nosed pedigree if he can get a bargain on 'em... That's what i want to hear from serious fans of other teams who pay attention to the inside scoop... what do you think your team's current GM, who you may love or hate or not give a shiat about would think about Sam?
 
2014-02-12 05:49:02 AM

you are a puppet: [static01.nyt.com image 600x400]

With a high school coach that looks like this, I'm surprised he wasn't scared straight


THAT PIC and its caption:

In junior high school, Craig Smith, the football coach, saw that Sam was athletically blessed and, even better, hungry for guidance and camaraderie. The coaches drafted him to carry equipment and hang around the squad.

My mind immediately played out THE nightmare scenario for how this young man discovered his sexuality.

*shudder*
 
2014-02-12 06:18:28 AM
My Dad did that for me, but I just wish he had paid the extra nine pesos so I could have gone BEFORE the donkey.
 
2014-02-12 06:39:05 AM

ghostfacekillahrabbit: ghostfacekillahrabbit: If this kid is a tweener DE who could be converted to OLB, and put up player of the year numbers in a tough conference, and is projected to go in third through fifth rounds, then Ted Thompson will agonize over picking him or passing on him starting with the 4th or 5th, and then if he's still there trade up in the 6th to take him. Fans of other teams, how do you think your team's GM thinks about this?

I mean about Sam, and Ted loves to pick every sort of tweener DE-OLB with a hard-nosed pedigree if he can get a bargain on 'em... That's what i want to hear from serious fans of other teams who pay attention to the inside scoop... what do you think your team's current GM, who you may love or hate or not give a shiat about would think about Sam?


If he is as good a player as they say he is, I could see Seattle taking a flyer on him. We have a large gay community here, Pete Carroll would be like, "hey that's great", and he would have a chance to play if he can really hit. I could see Seattle as a possible destination.
 
2014-02-12 06:45:01 AM
"Apparently he couldn't finish his Denny's meal because he was so upset a Brain."

"I can relate Monsoon, I often can't finish my Denny's meal, because halfway through I look up, and realize I'm at Denny's."
 
2014-02-12 07:24:44 AM

you are a puppet: [static01.nyt.com image 600x400]

Yo, Kool-aid!

With a high school coach that looks like this, I'm surprised he wasn't scared straight


that's so odd..he has a thinnish face and arms but then KABOOM.

also:
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2014-02-12 07:33:56 AM
Still think it's funny, that as another farker pointed out when he made the announcement, that it appears that MO is more accepting than the NFL.

/Been to Hitchcock
//They used a pic of the of the good side of town.
 
2014-02-12 08:07:19 AM
I love that the first openly gay NFL player is a monster linebacker.
 
2014-02-12 08:09:09 AM

ghostfacekillahrabbit: ghostfacekillahrabbit: If this kid is a tweener DE who could be converted to OLB, and put up player of the year numbers in a tough conference, and is projected to go in third through fifth rounds, then Ted Thompson will agonize over picking him or passing on him starting with the 4th or 5th, and then if he's still there trade up in the 6th to take him. Fans of other teams, how do you think your team's GM thinks about this?

I mean about Sam, and Ted loves to pick every sort of tweener DE-OLB with a hard-nosed pedigree if he can get a bargain on 'em... That's what i want to hear from serious fans of other teams who pay attention to the inside scoop... what do you think your team's current GM, who you may love or hate or not give a shiat about would think about Sam?


By the draft, I may be Browns Gm. I'd take him in the 5th due to size if you convert him. Now if my dog ends up as Browns GM, he's drafting 3 QBs, 2 RBs, and the rest skill players until he finds someone who is slightly below average.
 
2014-02-12 08:21:56 AM

ghostfacekillahrabbit: If this kid is a tweener DE who could be converted to OLB, and put up player of the year numbers in a tough conference, and is projected to go in third through fifth rounds, then Ted Thompson will agonize over picking him or passing on him starting with the 4th or 5th, and then if he's still there trade up in the 6th to take him. Fans of other teams, how do you think your team's GM thinks about this?


He's very much a 3-4 DE, so teams like the Panthers that are pretty well entrenched in the 4-3 aren't going to have as much need for him.
 
2014-02-12 08:22:00 AM
It's okay. I'm sure he will find comfort in the millions his son will make in the NFL.
 
2014-02-12 08:25:42 AM
I grew up in  LaMarque which is right next to Hitchcock. Those two towns are shiat holes of epic proportions. Texas sucks shiat.

Moved to Seattle about 21 years ago...much nicer.
 
2014-02-12 08:42:02 AM

ghostfacekillahrabbit: If this kid is a tweener DE who could be converted to OLB, and put up player of the year numbers in a tough conference, and is projected to go in third through fifth rounds, then Ted Thompson will agonize over picking him or passing on him starting with the 4th or 5th, and then if he's still there trade up in the 6th to take him. Fans of other teams, how do you think your team's GM thinks about this?


The Lions GM is a big fan of taking guys who are really athletic but have something that causes other teams to downgrade them. I could see him overlooking the tweener aspect. No clue, though, about the sexual orientation thing.
 
2014-02-12 08:45:04 AM

meanmutton: ghostfacekillahrabbit: If this kid is a tweener DE who could be converted to OLB, and put up player of the year numbers in a tough conference, and is projected to go in third through fifth rounds, then Ted Thompson will agonize over picking him or passing on him starting with the 4th or 5th, and then if he's still there trade up in the 6th to take him. Fans of other teams, how do you think your team's GM thinks about this?

The Lions GM is a big fan of taking guys who are really athletic but have something that causes other teams to downgrade them. I could see him overlooking the tweener aspect. No clue, though, about the sexual orientation thing.


If he had an injury and/or concussion history, he'd be a sure thing to go to the Lions in the second round.
 
2014-02-12 08:52:00 AM
The more we hear about this story the more I hope it is all an elaborate piece of performance art.

I mean if you took away all the real world stuff.
 
2014-02-12 08:52:59 AM

Bobby_and_The_Gorilla: "Apparently he couldn't finish his Denny's meal because he was so upset a Brain."

"I can relate Monsoon, I often can't finish my Denny's meal, because halfway through I look up, and realize I'm at Denny's."


Then he left Denny's to drink at Applebees. I'm guessing he ended the night at Waffle House.

"It's 2 a.m. Still time to make one more bad decision."
 
2014-02-12 08:54:39 AM
The party stopped cold. "I couldn't eat no more, so I went to Applebee's to have drinks," Sam Sr. said. "I don't want my grandkids raised in that kind of environment.
"I'm old school," he added. "I'm a man-and-a-woman type of guy." As evidence, he pointed out that he had taken an older son to Mexico to lose his virginity.



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2014-02-12 09:15:14 AM

ghostfacekillahrabbit: ghostfacekillahrabbit: If this kid is a tweener DE who could be converted to OLB, and put up player of the year numbers in a tough conference, and is projected to go in third through fifth rounds, then Ted Thompson will agonize over picking him or passing on him starting with the 4th or 5th, and then if he's still there trade up in the 6th to take him. Fans of other teams, how do you think your team's GM thinks about this?

I mean about Sam, and Ted loves to pick every sort of tweener DE-OLB with a hard-nosed pedigree if he can get a bargain on 'em... That's what i want to hear from serious fans of other teams who pay attention to the inside scoop... what do you think your team's current GM, who you may love or hate or not give a shiat about would think about Sam?


In a vacuum he's the exact type of player the Bears under Emery would take a good look at. In reality, they've already got one tweener they don't know what to do with (McClellen) so despite an awful defense in need of upgrades, there's no way they'll even consider him.
 
2014-02-12 09:17:59 AM
I read an article Monday where the dad said he didn't have a big problem with it.
 
2014-02-12 09:29:33 AM

JusticeandIndependence: The party stopped cold. "I couldn't eat no more, so I went to Applebee's to have drinks," Sam Sr. said. "I don't want my grandkids raised in that kind of environment.
"I'm old school," he added. "I'm a man-and-a-woman type of guy." As evidence, he pointed out that he had taken an older son to Mexico to lose his virginity.


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Well, it is the oldest profession...
 
2014-02-12 09:33:03 AM
FTA "A sister drowned when she was 2, before Michael was born, when another child accidentally knocked her off a fishing pier. Another brother, Russell, was 15 when he was shot and killed trying to break into a home, in what his father said was part of a gang initiation. Another brother, Julian, has not been heard from since he left for work one day in 1998; his family believes he is dead. Two others are in jail. "
HIs mother " JoAnn is a member of the Jehovah's Witnesses, who do not celebrate holidays or believe in most birth control and generally shun participation in organized sports. Michael Sr. comes from a large Baptist family, and his father was a long-serving deacon at a church in nearby Texas City, Tex. "

I bet coming out is one of the easier things this guy has gone through.
 
2014-02-12 09:36:12 AM

ghostfacekillahrabbit: If this kid is a tweener DE who could be converted to OLB, and put up player of the year numbers in a tough conference, and is projected to go in third through fifth rounds, then Ted Thompson will agonize over picking him or passing on him starting with the 4th or 5th, and then if he's still there trade up in the 6th to take him. Fans of other teams, how do you think your team's GM thinks about this?


I think he'd fit in well with the Steelers defense, they typically like those hybrids to play their rush positions in the 3-4. But they just drafted one (Jarvis Jones) last year so I doubt they're thinking about him anytime before round 3 or 4. I don't think they'd have a problem drafting him because of his penis preference but who really knows? Scouts, GMs, and owners especially tend to be old white guys, otherwise known as the most likely demographic to have a problem with gay people.

I like to think the NFL is a meritocracy (Tebow phenom excluded) and that if he's good enough my team would take him. What I'm not excited about is if he goes to the combine and stinks it up, runs a 5.2 or something, and he drops way down in the draft. That shiatstorm won't be fun to hear about. I hope he dominates the combine and leaves no question he can play in the NFL.
 
2014-02-12 09:52:34 AM

Semper IvXx: ghostfacekillahrabbit: If this kid is a tweener DE who could be converted to OLB, and put up player of the year numbers in a tough conference, and is projected to go in third through fifth rounds, then Ted Thompson will agonize over picking him or passing on him starting with the 4th or 5th, and then if he's still there trade up in the 6th to take him. Fans of other teams, how do you think your team's GM thinks about this?

I think he'd fit in well with the Steelers defense, they typically like those hybrids to play their rush positions in the 3-4. But they just drafted one (Jarvis Jones) last year so I doubt they're thinking about him anytime before round 3 or 4. I don't think they'd have a problem drafting him because of his penis preference but who really knows? Scouts, GMs, and owners especially tend to be old white guys, otherwise known as the most likely demographic to have a problem with gay people.

I like to think the NFL is a meritocracy (Tebow phenom excluded) and that if he's good enough my team would take him. What I'm not excited about is if he goes to the combine and stinks it up, runs a 5.2 or something, and he drops way down in the draft. That shiatstorm won't be fun to hear about. I hope he dominates the combine and leaves no question he can play in the NFL.


If you think that old white guys are the ones most likely to have a problem with gay men, you haven't met many old black guys.
 
2014-02-12 10:03:31 AM

meanmutton: Semper IvXx: ghostfacekillahrabbit: If this kid is a tweener DE who could be converted to OLB, and put up player of the year numbers in a tough conference, and is projected to go in third through fifth rounds, then Ted Thompson will agonize over picking him or passing on him starting with the 4th or 5th, and then if he's still there trade up in the 6th to take him. Fans of other teams, how do you think your team's GM thinks about this?

I think he'd fit in well with the Steelers defense, they typically like those hybrids to play their rush positions in the 3-4. But they just drafted one (Jarvis Jones) last year so I doubt they're thinking about him anytime before round 3 or 4. I don't think they'd have a problem drafting him because of his penis preference but who really knows? Scouts, GMs, and owners especially tend to be old white guys, otherwise known as the most likely demographic to have a problem with gay people.

I like to think the NFL is a meritocracy (Tebow phenom excluded) and that if he's good enough my team would take him. What I'm not excited about is if he goes to the combine and stinks it up, runs a 5.2 or something, and he drops way down in the draft. That shiatstorm won't be fun to hear about. I hope he dominates the combine and leaves no question he can play in the NFL.

If you think that old white guys are the ones most likely to have a problem with gay men, you haven't met many old black guys.


I think there aren't old black owners. Not sure about GMs, though there probably are scouts.
 
2014-02-12 11:02:16 AM

you are a puppet: [static01.nyt.com image 600x400]

Yo, Kool-aid!

With a high school coach that looks like this, I'm surprised he wasn't scared straight


He's just trying to land the Kansas head coaching position.

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2014-02-12 11:04:06 AM
Hey NYT (and the rest of the media), thanks for helping to make the life of this guy, his family, his coach, and everyone who knew him a living hell because he had the guts to come out as gay.  You really deserve a lot of credit.  My two local sports stations haven't STFU about him for three days now.  No idea what's going on in the Olympics or the NBA.
 
2014-02-12 11:05:03 AM

Semper IvXx: I think there aren't old black owners. Not sure about GMs, though there probably are scouts.


I too hate honkies
 
2014-02-12 11:34:32 AM

ghostfacekillahrabbit: If this kid is a tweener DE who could be converted to OLB, and put up player of the year numbers in a tough conference, and is projected to go in third through fifth rounds, then Ted Thompson will agonize over picking him or passing on him starting with the 4th or 5th, and then if he's still there trade up in the 6th to take him. Fans of other teams, how do you think your team's GM thinks about this?


Well, Elway came out and said the right things, but I highly doubt after Denver's experience with Tebowmania he would want to deal with the media and the distractions Sam would bring. Very doubtful the Broncos would draft him, regardless of 'fit'.
 
2014-02-12 11:48:27 AM

meanmutton: I like to think the NFL is a meritocracy (Tebow phenom excluded)


C'mon, man...

Please explain how, based only on his college career, Tebow didn't merit a chance in the NFL.

/obviously he didn't prove that he had what it takes to stay in the NFL, but it looks like you're talking about the draft and a shot at the NFL.
 
2014-02-12 12:02:15 PM

mikaloyd: Semper IvXx: I think there aren't old black owners. Not sure about GMs, though there probably are scouts.

I too hate honkies


Congrats? Or is there an old black owner I don't know about that means I hate "honkies"? Or are you stupid? I'm guessing it's that one.

/I did think of an old black GM in Baltimore, pretty sure Newsome is the GM
 
2014-02-12 12:11:21 PM
not sure what "being straight" has to do with buying prostitution to end your son's virginity... ever thought of ya know, dating a girl?

Ow! That was my feelings!: ghostfacekillahrabbit: If this kid is a tweener DE who could be converted to OLB, and put up player of the year numbers in a tough conference, and is projected to go in third through fifth rounds, then Ted Thompson will agonize over picking him or passing on him starting with the 4th or 5th, and then if he's still there trade up in the 6th to take him. Fans of other teams, how do you think your team's GM thinks about this?

Well, Elway came out and said the right things, but I highly doubt after Denver's experience with Tebowmania he would want to deal with the media and the distractions Sam would bring. Very doubtful the Broncos would draft him, regardless of 'fit'.


the best decision Elway has made so far is bringing in Peyton, after he retires that team will be a hot mess

ironically i think the Bears could draft him, their non-existent pass-rush needs all the help it can get, the Ravens are another candidate with Suggs possibly being a Cap casaulty
 
2014-02-12 12:12:02 PM

skrame: meanmutton: I like to think the NFL is a meritocracy (Tebow phenom excluded)

C'mon, man...

Please explain how, based only on his college career, Tebow didn't merit a chance in the NFL.

/obviously he didn't prove that he had what it takes to stay in the NFL, but it looks like you're talking about the draft and a shot at the NFL.


I wasn't talking about the draft in relation to Tebow. I didn't say he didn't deserve a chance, and regardless if I did or not, not only did he get a chance he got drafted about 5 rounds early. He got a chance and sucked, yet kept his job (for a bit anyway) and was treated as if he didn't suck, at least by the media and some weirdly over zealous Tebowners who felt the need to white knight him online.

My point was he was an outlier in a bottom line business. But you certainly protected his honor from imaginary insults.
 
2014-02-12 12:28:16 PM
Semper IvXx:
I like to think the NFL is a meritocracy (Tebow phenom excluded)

I think generally about players it is. For coaches, it definitely is not (look at all the failed retreads, particularly sons of coaches, that get hired over and over).
 
2014-02-12 12:47:59 PM
So a black man chooses his farked up values over his unconditional love for his son.  The same values some dicks trumpeted to put his people in chains 150 years ago.  This kind of shiat makes my brain hurt.  Also interesting to note that most anti-gay quotes from the bible are from Leviticus.  Which also say its cool to rape a biatch but if you knock her up you have to marry her or buy her dad a donkey.  Truly values to base your life on.
 
2014-02-12 01:02:29 PM

BowtoMogul: FTA "A sister drowned when she was 2, before Michael was born, when another child accidentally knocked her off a fishing pier. Another brother, Russell, was 15 when he was shot and killed trying to break into a home, in what his father said was part of a gang initiation. Another brother, Julian, has not been heard from since he left for work one day in 1998; his family believes he is dead. Two others are in jail. "
HIs mother " JoAnn is a member of the Jehovah's Witnesses, who do not celebrate holidays or believe in most birth control and generally shun participation in organized sports. Michael Sr. comes from a large Baptist family, and his father was a long-serving deacon at a church in nearby Texas City, Tex. "

I bet coming out is one of the easier things this guy has gone through.


Holy hell.  You'd think the parents would have realized their values led them to being some of the worst parents in history and chilled out a bit.
 
2014-02-12 01:15:36 PM
Also can we stop pretending there haven't been gays in the NFL?

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2014-02-12 01:23:15 PM

Ow! That was my feelings!: ghostfacekillahrabbit: If this kid is a tweener DE who could be converted to OLB, and put up player of the year numbers in a tough conference, and is projected to go in third through fifth rounds, then Ted Thompson will agonize over picking him or passing on him starting with the 4th or 5th, and then if he's still there trade up in the 6th to take him. Fans of other teams, how do you think your team's GM thinks about this?

Well, Elway came out and said the right things, but I highly doubt after Denver's experience with Tebowmania he would want to deal with the media and the distractions Sam would bring. Very doubtful the Broncos would draft him, regardless of 'fit'.


Dude, Elwsy's best defensive player is a knucklehead. He was suspended for violating the drug policy and has done some seriously immature shiat off the field.

Elway got rid of Tebow because his stock was never going to be higher and he wasn't that good. Plus Peyton.

I see the Broncos, Steelers, Pats, Hawks, Niners, and Giants amongst others that would be good places for Sam to land just because they are stable teams and can tell folks to STFU.
 
2014-02-12 01:27:05 PM
repost of my comment from the now redlit thread:
Too bad the son he took to Mexico to lose his virginity didn't contract "teh gay plague" from hetero sex.
/probably got Hep-C instead
 
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