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2014-02-12 08:00:37 AM  

Pick: The homeless are homeless, because they chose to be homeless. They don't want to work, they want free handouts. They are in the situations they are in, because they chose them.


Yep, they made that choice to be schizophrenic, or suffering from PTSD and/or major depression and/or bipolar disorder, or having had to pay a $200,000 medical bill, or having their bank foreclose on their house. They made that choice of buying that house when they should have known that their job was going to be "outsourced" to China or India and that house was just an asset to the bank that held their mortgage, as was every penny in their bank account.

They made that choice to have a psychotic/fanatically religious/alcoholic parent who taught them nothing about how to live their lives and beat them senseless when they tried to learn on their own. The latter, I know one person who came from a house like that. She got raped and beaten half to death at 13 by a man in his mid-30s and her mom didn't give a damn. Her mom called her a sinner and a liar and a whore and all sorts of shiat and threw her out of the house. When the creep that raped her got out of prison when she was 19, he tracked her down and started harassing her and stalking her with the idea that they were supposed to get married or some shiat because, according to the Bible, she belonged to him. So she shot his ass dead with her grandfathers .38 and got 10 years for that. She's not homeless, but she was on and off for several years as a teenager. She makes a pretty good living tying up and tormenting Lawyers, Judges and Business executives in the basement of the house she inherited from her grandfather who was really the only decent person in her life.

So yeah, it's always just a lifestyle choice isn't it.
 
2014-02-12 08:01:23 AM  

Pick: The homeless are homeless, because they chose to be homeless. They don't want to work, they want free handouts. They are in the situations they are in, because they chose them.


We want to find a funny, upbeat way of bringing the issue of homelessness to TV.So we've got three wacky homeless characters. But they're wise. They're wacky and wise.The hook is they love being homeless.

They love the freedom, the adventure.

It's about the joy of living, not the shiat we deal with: Money, politics. And the best part is,it's called Home Free.

I'm getting a rush!
 
2014-02-12 08:05:19 AM  

TrotlineDesigns: The homeless flock to Florida every winter.  Worse than the blue hairs do even.  If nothing is done then all the lazy non working people from the north will have taken over and us natives in Florida will get bad press because the northern folks do such stupid things... oh.. never mind, that already happens.

/screw it, let them freeze.


You'd better hope the Christians are wrong about the afterlife.
 
2014-02-12 08:06:47 AM  
Conservative goon says "small government" is reserved for rich people.
 
2014-02-12 08:12:56 AM  
It's quite simple. I know that because I'm quite simple.  Terrists can infiltrate Florida as homeless people and camp out in front of the banks with the AK-47s and RPGs safely hidden under their blankets.  Then, when the Jerb Creators show up for a busy day of jerb creatin', these terrorists can unload on the backbone of our Merican Freedoms.  With the Jerb Creators of Florida gone, the state will spiral down at least one whole level being that they were exactly one who level from the absolute bottom anyways.

It's cheaper than training a rabbit to saw neatly along the state border and push Florida off towards South America.
 
2014-02-12 08:14:54 AM  

Prophet of Loss: So denying people with no place to go basic shelter is fine with a fine pinnacle of humanity such as yourself?


No.  Denying people with no place to go from making basic shelter wherever they damn well please is fine.
 
2014-02-12 08:15:32 AM  

5 star chef of tv dinners: To be fair, I highly doubt anyone is freezing to death in florida unless the fall asleep inside a walk-in freezer but it's still a dumb, pointless law.


Having lived in the area (North Florida) before I can tell you it gets down to 15F probably 3 or 4 times a year. It will stay in the high 30s for weeks.
 
2014-02-12 08:17:24 AM  

TuteTibiImperes: DamnYankees: What in gods name is a non-cruel justification for this?

It does seem to be capriciously mean-spirited, but what happens if they're caught?  Do they get arrested and taken into jail?

At least there they'll get a warm place to sleep, three meals a day, access to medical care, and a chance to get clean.

People shouldn't be living on the streets, but I don't think banning the use of blankets is necessarily the best way to go about it.  Jail isn't a perfect solution either, as while it may be better than the sidewalk, throwing the homeless in with hardened criminals could also be potentially dangerous for them.

I really don't know what the best solution is here.


these laws are designed to arrest people - then to incarcerate them at the cost to tax payers. it's an artificial way of saying, "hey, we're keeping crime down" by creating a statute that creates more criminals which they weren't before.
 
2014-02-12 08:18:17 AM  

uptonogood: TuteTibiImperes: DamnYankees: What in gods name is a non-cruel justification for this?

It does seem to be capriciously mean-spirited, but what happens if they're caught?  Do they get arrested and taken into jail?

At least there they'll get a warm place to sleep, three meals a day, access to medical care, and a chance to get clean.

People shouldn't be living on the streets, but I don't think banning the use of blankets is necessarily the best way to go about it.  Jail isn't a perfect solution either, as while it may be better than the sidewalk, throwing the homeless in with hardened criminals could also be potentially dangerous for them.

I really don't know what the best solution is here.

these laws are designed to arrest people - then to incarcerate them at the cost to tax payers. it's an artificial way of saying, "hey, we're keeping crime down" by creating a statute that creates more criminals which they weren't before.


Gotta keep them prisons stocked up and the profits rolling in.
 
2014-02-12 08:19:36 AM  

Deathfrogg: Pick: The homeless are homeless, because they chose to be homeless. They don't want to work, they want free handouts. They are in the situations they are in, because they chose them.

Yep, they made that choice to be schizophrenic, or suffering from PTSD and/or major depression and/or bipolar disorder, or having had to pay a $200,000 medical bill, or having their bank foreclose on their house. They made that choice of buying that house when they should have known that their job was going to be "outsourced" to China or India and that house was just an asset to the bank that held their mortgage, as was every penny in their bank account.

They made that choice to have a psychotic/fanatically religious/alcoholic parent who taught them nothing about how to live their lives and beat them senseless when they tried to learn on their own. The latter, I know one person who came from a house like that. She got raped and beaten half to death at 13 by a man in his mid-30s and her mom didn't give a damn. Her mom called her a sinner and a liar and a whore and all sorts of shiat and threw her out of the house. When the creep that raped her got out of prison when she was 19, he tracked her down and started harassing her and stalking her with the idea that they were supposed to get married or some shiat because, according to the Bible, she belonged to him. So she shot his ass dead with her grandfathers .38 and got 10 years for that. She's not homeless, but she was on and off for several years as a teenager. She makes a pretty good living tying up and tormenting Lawyers, Judges and Business executives in the basement of the house she inherited from her grandfather who was really the only decent person in her life.

So yeah, it's always just a lifestyle choice isn't it.


There's a segment of every society that simply lacks the ability to function within that society. Maybe we could cut back on oil subsidies or foreign aid or something, and use that money to provide for them. Because, you know, it would actually be something a civilization might do.

Or hey, let's tax churches and use THAT money to help the irredeemably dysfunctional. Churches wouldn't complain about chipping in to help those who are truly broken, surely.
 
2014-02-12 08:24:20 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: groppet: Are there no work houses for these people?

Sometimes I think that some people think all you have to do is give a homeless person a job and a bed and they will be fine.

It's pretty much a given that they don't want jobs.


What - on top of everything else, now you think you're funny?
It's going to be interesting to see how un-self-aware you can actually become - there seems to be no limit at this point.
Too bad you are wasting space that could be devoted to quality trolling - but you lack the skills - you are a Fark version of an unemployable homeless person. :D
 
2014-02-12 08:26:47 AM  

Pick: The homeless are homeless, because they chose to be homeless. They don't want to work, they want free handouts. They are in the situations they are in, because they chose them.


And yet, when you f**k up your own life, you'll be the first to come running to society for help - your kind always are.
 
2014-02-12 08:37:42 AM  

Prophet of Loss: Cataholic: Sec. 8-1-22 Camping prohibited; exceptions
(1)    For purposes of this section "camping" is defined as:
(a)    Cooking over an open flame or fire out-of-doors; or
(b)   Bathing in public for purposes of personal hygiene; or
(c)    Sleeping out-of-doors under one of the following circumstances:
(i)                  Adjacent to or inside a tent or sleeping bag, or
(ii)                Atop and/or covered by materials such as a bedroll, cardboard, newspapers, or
(iii)               Inside some form of temporary shelter
(2)    Camping is prohibited on all public property, except as may be specifically authorized by the appropriate governmental authority.
(3)    Camping is prohibited on all property in the City used for residential purposes; provided, however that camping is permitted on such property with permission and consent of the property owner.
(4)    An individual in violation of this ordinance, who has no private shelter, shall be advised of available shelter in the City of Pensacola or Escambia County, in addition to any penalties of law.
SECTION 2. In any word, phrase, clause, paragraph, section or provision of this ordinance or the application thereof to any person or circumstance is held invalid or unconstitutional, such finding shall not affect the other provision or applications of the ordinance which can be given effect without the invalid or unconstitutional provisions or application, and to this end the provisions of this ordinance are declared severable.
SECTION 3. All ordinances or parts of ordinances in conflict herewith are hereby repealed to the extent of such conflict.
SECTION 4. This ordinance shall take effect on the fifth business day after adoption, unless otherwise provided pursuant to Section 4.03(d) of the City Charter of the City of Pensacola.

You'll note there are no criminal penalties attached to this ordinance.  You'll also note it does not make covering yourself with a blanket illegal.  You may continue with your ginned up outrage.

So denying people with no place to go basic shelter is fine with a fine pinnacle of humanity such as yourself?


Well, "no camping" regulations are pretty widespread. The problem is that they didn't define camping in the context of recreation. Homelessness is not recreation, so it should be exempt from this specific ordinance. The two bolded items are really geared towards the homeless, as is the bit about "available shelter". No recreational campers are going to cover themselves up with cardboard or newspapers (I am sure there are a very small number of exceptions).

This isn't banning homeless using blankets, this is banning people sleeping outdoors period. So the headline, yourself, and most of this thread is missing the point: this ordinance is as close to outlawing homelessness as one can get. "You can't sleep anywhere except a shelter" is the message here. I'll leave it up to this thread to debate the morality of this, but I wanted to refocus the interpretation here. I do agree, however, that the lack of penalties is interesting. I guess this gives cops the right to say "move along, get out"?
 
2014-02-12 08:40:26 AM  
Says here it's Pensacola.   Certainly ain't Mensacola.
 
2014-02-12 08:43:14 AM  

Bruce Campbell: Prophet of Loss: So denying people with no place to go basic shelter is fine with a fine pinnacle of humanity such as yourself?

No.  Denying people with no place to go from making basic shelter wherever they damn well please is fine.


true, little known fact: in Florida there is no such thing as trespassing, these kinds of ordinances are the only thing keeping homeless people from sleeping right on your porch.
 
2014-02-12 08:46:36 AM  

Headso: true, little known fact: in Florida there is no such thing as trespassing, these kinds of ordinances are the only thing keeping homeless people from sleeping right on your porch.


Well, not quite: trespassing needs a complaint, as in a person home. The cops can't arrest you for hanging out on someone's lawn if that someone isn't home, if I understand the statues correctly. Things I learned researching the Zim trial, and having an FL DA as a friend.
 
2014-02-12 08:52:38 AM  
"At this point, it's uncertain if the powers-that-be will act to defend the homeless against the intolerable conditions they have helped create..."

/eyeroll. You should quit while you're ahead and spare us the self-righteous editorializing.
 
2014-02-12 08:54:33 AM  

PC LOAD LETTER: I do agree, however, that the lack of penalties is interesting. I guess this gives cops the right to say "move along, get out"?


The penalty, as I posted earlier, appears to be a max of a $500 fine or 60 days in jail or both for every single day the person is in violation of the ordinance.
 
2014-02-12 08:59:11 AM  

Monkeyman935: Dwight_Yeast: //some people don't want to live indoors.

some people don't want to bathe. some don't want to get immunizations for their children. some want to home school. some want to rape children.

/thank god polio isn't completely wiped out, maybe there is some justice.


Immunization is a public health issue.  "Sleeping rough" is not.  The Dutch just started a program to give homeless drunks (who could get housing through several programs, but chose to live on the streets) beer and food for collecting litter.

To get back to TFA: banning people from covering up when sleeping outside would also be a public health issue.  Just as we've made sleeping on the streets a public health issue in cold weather here in the NE (basically, you don't have a right to freeze to death or die of neglect).

It's a fine line, but we have to have some respect for personal rights.

However, here in the USA, the first thing we need to do is make sure food and housing are available to everyone.  Then we can fuss about those who chose not to take it.
 
2014-02-12 09:06:01 AM  

Headso: true, little known fact: in Florida there is no such thing as trespassing


maverickphilosopher.typepad.com
 
2014-02-12 09:08:42 AM  

Headso: true, little known fact: in Florida there is no such thing as trespassing, these kinds of ordinances are the only thing keeping homeless people from sleeping right on your porch.


You don't understand the scenario.  This is an issue regarding public property, not private.  Trespass on public property still requires notice by the owner (in this case it would need to be a representative of the public entity that owns the land in question) to ask you to leave, since, being that it is public property, you have implied permission to be there.  This ordinance makes that requirement to provide notice an unnecessary step.
 
2014-02-12 09:15:08 AM  

5 star chef of tv dinners: To be fair, I highly doubt anyone is freezing to death in florida unless the fall asleep inside a walk-in freezer but it's still a dumb, pointless law.


You don't think it gets cold at night in Florida in the winter? You don't think a blanket is as much a comfort to someone on a bench as it is to you in your bed - more so?  Are you suggesting that the cruetly of this law is mitigated by your assessment that the homeless people don't really need blankets like regular people? Is this one of those things where you can satisfy yourself that both sides are stupid?
 
2014-02-12 09:16:19 AM  

Bruce Campbell: Headso: true, little known fact: in Florida there is no such thing as trespassing, these kinds of ordinances are the only thing keeping homeless people from sleeping right on your porch.

You don't understand the scenario.  This is an issue regarding public property, not private.  Trespass on public property still requires notice by the owner (in this case it would need to be a representative of the public entity that owns the land in question) to ask you to leave, since, being that it is public property, you have implied permission to be there.  This ordinance makes that requirement to provide notice an unnecessary step.


I'm just happy you got that I was being sarcastic...
 
2014-02-12 09:40:12 AM  

show me:  They need to bootstrap themselves into a good job (like a half term governor, we all know that can't be a difficult job) and pull theyselves out of the gutter.


They could always donate a half million to Obama, and get a sweet ambassadorship to someplace they've never heard of.

SPEAKING OF PENSACOLA, and all of the Florida Panhandle, (aka The Redneck Riviera), I have to admit that it's a strange mix of cultures, and incompetent politicians.  I graduated from UWF in '90, so I have first-hand Knowledge.

There's a certain meanness to the area.  I could never put my finger on the cause, but I almost never go there anymore, except to visit Grayton Beach occasionally.

From Panama City to Pensacola, you have, in varying numbers, at different times of the year:

Itinerant service workers
Wealthy property owners
Navy and Air Force personnel
Snowbirds
Yokels - (see Crestview)
Spring breakers
Toothless fishermen
Annual vacationers
Drug runners
Golfers
College kids
Others (fill in the blank) __________________________________

Some of the stories of sado-masochism and mutilation that I now disremember are horrifying.

The politicians kowtow to the capricious, demanding, petulant money men.  There is almost no middle-class.  Just the very rich, and those who eke out a living.

It's not an easy place to live.
 
2014-02-12 09:44:35 AM  

TuteTibiImperes: DamnYankees: What in gods name is a non-cruel justification for this?

It does seem to be capriciously mean-spirited, but what happens if they're caught?  Do they get arrested and taken into jail?

At least there they'll get a warm place to sleep, three meals a day, access to medical care, and a chance to get clean.

People shouldn't be living on the streets, but I don't think banning the use of blankets is necessarily the best way to go about it.  Jail isn't a perfect solution either, as while it may be better than the sidewalk, throwing the homeless in with hardened criminals could also be potentially dangerous for them.

I really don't know what the best solution is here.


No, they're not jailed.  Cops take the blankets and shelters, spray them down with water and pepper spray, and rap them on the head with a baton.  Then they're free to go.
 
2014-02-12 09:47:14 AM  
FTA:  The "camping" ordinance presents homeless people with a difficult choice: obey the law or freeze to death.

As long as there are homeless shelters in Florida, this is a false dilemma intended to pull at heart strings.

They even have some that allow you to stay with your pets.

The only reason you can't stay in a homeless shelter is because you show up drunk or high.

Sure, we can point a finger at addiction as disease, but don't let this article get it twisted. I have a right to avoid being stepping over human feces when going about my daily activities.
 
2014-02-12 09:47:58 AM  

TuteTibiImperes: DamnYankees: What in gods name is a non-cruel justification for this?

It does seem to be capriciously mean-spirited, but what happens if they're caught?  Do they get arrested and taken into jail?

At least there they'll get a warm place to sleep, three meals a day, access to medical care, and a chance to get clean.

People shouldn't be living on the streets, but I don't think banning the use of blankets is necessarily the best way to go about it.  Jail isn't a perfect solution either, as while it may be better than the sidewalk, throwing the homeless in with hardened criminals could also be potentially dangerous for them.

I really don't know what the best solution is here.


A pro debtor's prison stance? Try harder, I'm sure you can think up some kind of Final Solution to the poor people infestation.
 
2014-02-12 09:48:48 AM  
I don't live there so I don't know for sure, but it is very likely there are homeless shelters where people can get a hot meal and a warm place to sleep a shower and some kind of government provided social services are available.  They don't allow drugs or alcohol, so the homeless don't like them.  If we assume there are such places, this law is really not onerous at all but probably beneficial to the homeless by forcing more of them into shelters where they might get help if they are willing to accept it.

If there are no such places, then, yes, it's a cruel draconian evil law to say choose between freezing or jail.
 
2014-02-12 09:52:28 AM  

gfid: Point02GPA: Headso: just give them homes.

I was going to suggest solar powered portable heaters, but now I'm down with "homes".

I'll just leave this here:

100,000 Homes: Housing the homeless saves money?


I saw that story on the TV.  I was compelled by the before and after pics of the participants who had been placed in the homes.

Quite touching and inspiring.
 
2014-02-12 09:54:23 AM  

on the road: Says here it's Pensacola.   Certainly ain't Mensacola.


clapping softly as if watching someone play golf
 
2014-02-12 10:01:04 AM  
Are they enforcing this against the homeless?  I think that's the important thing.  Without some law like this you get some crazy "Into the Wild" mofos just opting for free rent in the city square, or worse some occupy miscreant, and you want some legal ammunition to clear that problem up.  But if you are using this to yank some sweet blankets off of crazy vets then you get a special place in hell.
 
2014-02-12 10:09:49 AM  
Every farker who is concerned about the homeless should adopt one, feed clothe and shelter him. I think that would do wonders for the "homeless problem".
 
2014-02-12 10:20:58 AM  

DamnYankees: What in gods name is a non-cruel justification for this?


They may be doing unspeakable things under those blankets that are only appropriately done under the blankets in good Christian homes.
 
2014-02-12 10:23:34 AM  

Lee451: Every farker who is concerned about the homeless should adopt one, feed clothe and shelter him. I think that would do wonders for the "homeless problem".


I think farkers would be more inclined to videotape them fighting, steal their weed and cheap wine or just fark them.

But your intent is noble, sir; your heart is pure. You are man amongst men.
 
2014-02-12 10:37:01 AM  

HindiDiscoMonster: Headso: Bruce Campbell: Prophet of Loss: So denying people with no place to go basic shelter is fine with a fine pinnacle of humanity such as yourself?

No.  Denying people with no place to go from making basic shelter wherever they damn well please is fine.

true, little known fact: in Florida there is no such thing as trespassing, these kinds of ordinances are the only thing keeping homeless people from sleeping right on your porch.

Perhaps you could explain that to the Fort Lauderdale PD then because they arrest quite a few people for trespassing.


The word "gullible" isn't in the dictionary
 
2014-02-12 10:45:56 AM  

foo monkey: fark your site.  I'm not enabling a half-dozen cookies to read text.


I've been running into that mega-multiple cookies crap a LOT lately.

Oh, and PDick, eat some of this:

Robert McMurtry: I never imagined I'd ever be homeless, 'cause I had-- I really worked really hard my whole life and it was just devastating really when it happened because I never imagined that I would be in this condition.
 
2014-02-12 10:51:58 AM  

CivicMindedFive: I don't live there so I don't know for sure, but it is very likely there are homeless shelters where people can get a hot meal and a warm place to sleep a shower and some kind of government provided social services are available.  They don't allow drugs or alcohol, so the homeless don't like them.  If we assume there are such places, this law is really not onerous at all but probably beneficial to the homeless by forcing more of them into shelters where they might get help if they are willing to accept it.

If there are no such places, then, yes, it's a cruel draconian evil law to say choose between freezing or jail.


There are lots of shelters, all of which offer a bed and some sort of meals. Most of them also offer job rehab and there are plenty of places that like to hire for odd jobs from these shelters, in order to give back to the community. There are also soup kitchens, and free food banks associated with the shelters.

I've spent time volunteering and working with homeless people, many of those using the services feel the same way about those who refuse because it gives the one's trying a bad name.

The reasons people don't like to stay in shelters is because they can't drink or do drugs, they have to be in by 10pm and they have to be awake and out by 9am. It doesn't lend itself well to self-destructive, behavioral choices.
 
2014-02-12 10:58:08 AM  

Mell of a Hess: show me:  They need to bootstrap themselves into a good job (like a half term governor, we all know that can't be a difficult job) and pull theyselves out of the gutter.

They could always donate a half million to Obama, and get a sweet ambassadorship to someplace they've never heard of.

SPEAKING OF PENSACOLA, and all of the Florida Panhandle, (aka The Redneck Riviera), I have to admit that it's a strange mix of cultures, and incompetent politicians.  I graduated from UWF in '90, so I have first-hand Knowledge.

There's a certain meanness to the area.  I could never put my finger on the cause, but I almost never go there anymore, except to visit Grayton Beach occasionally.

From Panama City to Pensacola, you have, in varying numbers, at different times of the year:

Itinerant service workers
Wealthy property owners
Navy and Air Force personnel
Snowbirds
Yokels - (see Crestview)
Spring breakers
Toothless fishermen
Annual vacationers
Drug runners
Golfers
College kids
Others (fill in the blank) __________________________________

Some of the stories of sado-masochism and mutilation that I now disremember are horrifying.

The politicians kowtow to the capricious, demanding, petulant money men.  There is almost no middle-class.  Just the very rich, and those who eke out a living.

It's not an easy place to live.


Your forgot the Holy Roller, amigo.

Olive Baptist Church and Pace Assembly of God frown on your godlessness.
 
2014-02-12 11:07:15 AM  
Solution! Have a charity issue the homeless heavy, warm ponchos.
 
2014-02-12 11:08:54 AM  
What_do_you_want_now:

Your forgot the Holy Roller, amigo.

Olive Baptist Church and Pace Assembly of God frown on your godlessness.


I stand corrected, sir.  Good point.  I also forgot displaced generations of the descedents of Osceola and the like - you know - Injuns.
 
2014-02-12 11:09:23 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: I bet it gets really cold down there in Florida.

Another non-story designed to drum up hatred for the Right.


You know how I know you know nothing about geography and climate?
 
2014-02-12 11:10:23 AM  

Lee451: Every farker who is concerned about the homeless should adopt one, feed clothe and shelter him. I think that would do wonders for the "homeless problem".


Is that your final solution?
 
2014-02-12 11:12:22 AM  
So "city council of Pensacola" = "Florida" now? When did that happen?
 
2014-02-12 11:13:08 AM  
I'm ok with this.  Go to a shelter or a place designated for camping.  If you want to give the homeless a place to sleep, buy some property and allow them to camp there.

It's also not that uncommon.  Austin has pretty much the same law.  The homeless around here camp on vacant lots because the police can't do anything about it without the property owner telling them the campers are trespassing (and he doesn't know they're there unless he's checking regularly).
 
2014-02-12 11:19:00 AM  

Mell of a Hess: What_do_you_want_now:

Your forgot the Holy Roller, amigo.

Olive Baptist Church and Pace Assembly of God frown on your godlessness.

I stand corrected, sir.  Good point.  I also forgot displaced generations of the descedents of Osceola and the like - you know - Injuns.


No worries, my family still lives there so I keep tabs on the place. There's a reason I try not to stay more than 3 weeks in the place.

I graduated High School with most the current police force in Pace/Milton/Jay area. I'd probably get arrested on sight because they're all elitist douchebags who couldn't wrangle out that baseball/football scholarship.

Really, there are only 2 ways out of that damned place, a Scholarship or Enlistment. I chose the latter and have enjoyed my life ever since.
 
2014-02-12 11:20:17 AM  
Feel free to go down town and pickup a poor and bring em home for the winter.

Otherwise, shaddup
 
2014-02-12 11:28:30 AM  
What_do_you_want_now:
Really, there are only 2 ways out of that damned place, a Scholarship or Enlistment. I chose the latter and have enjoyed my life ever since.

I am a lifelong resident of New Orleans, but we visited the beach in Destin ever since post-Camille days, circa 1969.  Used to be you couldn't even get a radio station at the beach cottage.  Now, the vacationers feel compelled to drive 80 MPH everywhere they go,  Drunk, of course.

Went to UWF, and lifeguarded the beach, 'cause I thought that would be cool.  It was.  Taught a semester of HS English at Choctawhatchee in FWB.

I left as soon as that gig ended.  Never looked back.
 
2014-02-12 12:28:17 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: I bet it gets really cold down there in Florida.

Another non-story designed to drum up hatred for the Right.


Thank you, Mr. potato head. We will take that under advisement.
 
2014-02-12 12:39:23 PM  
0If you walk up to a legislator and pee on his leg they'll put you in a nice warm building, with a bed and even feed you.
 
2014-02-12 12:52:02 PM  

ongbok: I remember reading somewhere that these types of tactics, arresting the homeless for anything, were being used in some places to actually force them to get involved with social services who in turn could get them treatment, housing and help them with job placement. Otherwise in a lot of cases the homeless wouldn't approach social services themselves for various reasons. the way it supposed to work is when the police arrest a homeless person for one of these crimes, it automatically triggers social services to step in and take them for evaluation. So this new ordinance doesn't necessarily have to be a bad thing, but it could also just be another way to fark with homeless.


It's Florida.   I doubt the intention is altruistic.
 
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