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2014-02-11 08:56:22 PM  
Nah. It's when the whole bar suddenly gets real quiet that you got a problem...
 
2014-02-11 08:59:14 PM  

Candygram4Mongo: Nah. It's when the whole bar suddenly gets real quiet that you got a problem...


Naw, it's when the ironic fight music (Mr. Postman) starts you know there's a REAL problem.
 
2014-02-11 09:01:31 PM  
People who go to public places to be left alone can just go fark themselves.
 
2014-02-11 09:05:56 PM  
Today in "Things That are Ruining America": Loud bars, quiet cafes, Americans

Fixed that for you.
 
2014-02-11 09:08:04 PM  
i don't know as how its ruining america, but i agree bars are too loud. not every single bar needs to have dance club level music. its fun sometimes to get together with a few of the guys, have some beer and nachos and shoot the breeze, but if you can't hear someone more than a foot away.....
 
2014-02-11 09:10:57 PM  
I'm sure there'll be a (Featured Partner) link up soon to offer us a different (Featured Partner) viewpoint on the (Featured Partner) matter and then not (Featured Partner) let us discuss (Featured Partner) it.
 
2014-02-11 09:11:46 PM  
There is some merit to this.  I have always been a bar I can have a conversation aficionado so even when I was an 18 year-old I favored what everyone else called "old man" bars where the jukebox would go on occasionally but music or television weren't blaring everything out.

I'm sure the chickenhawks were aside themselves with libidinous ecstasy.
 
2014-02-11 09:12:26 PM  
WHAT?
 
2014-02-11 09:12:44 PM  

libranoelrose: People who go to public places to be left alone can just go fark themselves.


What about the library?
 
2014-02-11 09:14:00 PM  

tlchwi02: i don't know as how its ruining america, but i agree bars are too loud. not every single bar needs to have dance club level music. its fun sometimes to get together with a few of the guys, have some beer and nachos and shoot the breeze, but if you can't hear someone more than a foot away.....


That's why there are certain British Pubs I really like. They're low-key, with people having quiet conversations amongst themselves. Unless footbal's on the TV; then they go nuts.

I remember when I was in NYC, I went to a bar that featured Belgian beers. The place had a monastary theme, with all the staff wearing robes and hoods, and prominent signs asking patrons for silence.
 
2014-02-11 09:14:18 PM  

Candygram4Mongo: Nah. It's when the whole bar suddenly gets real quiet that you got a problem...


That's when I slide on my platform shoes and put "Tequila" on the juke box.
 
2014-02-11 09:18:59 PM  

fusillade762: libranoelrose: People who go to public places to be left alone can just go fark themselves.

What about the library?


assets.nydailynews.com

Been there, done that.
 
2014-02-11 09:19:11 PM  
The root problem is an insistence of right angles and hard surfaces. You can have one or the other, but not both.

The walls in my apartment are so square and true you can hear the echo of a finger snap. I go to a restaurant with my conversation group and I can tell it's going to be loud by the architecture. Dammit, a few weeks ago we went to a place with tile on one wall and the other two were glass. Just a little canting a few degrees out of square would have made a load of difference.
 
2014-02-11 09:19:32 PM  

brap: There is some merit to this.  I have always been a bar I can have a conversation aficionado so even when I was an 18 year-old I favored what everyone else called "old man" bars where the jukebox would go on occasionally but music or television weren't blaring everything out.

I'm sure the chickenhawks were aside themselves with libidinous ecstasy.


Yup. Used to go to one here where the college kids would walk in, look at the crowd and quickly turn to leave. It was quiet enough for a conversation, darts and pool.

/RIP Ton 80
 
2014-02-11 09:25:35 PM  
I shouldn't have to shout myself hoarse just to be able to chat with friends or coworkers over a drink.  It's a problem in restaurants, too - along with bars, they've all decided that they're too good for acoustical ceilings so they build echo chambers instead.  It's terrible.  Accept ceiling tiles!  They work!
 
2014-02-11 09:29:52 PM  

laughin: brap: There is some merit to this.  I have always been a bar I can have a conversation aficionado so even when I was an 18 year-old I favored what everyone else called "old man" bars where the jukebox would go on occasionally but music or television weren't blaring everything out.

I'm sure the chickenhawks were aside themselves with libidinous ecstasy.

Yup. Used to go to one here where the college kids would walk in, look at the crowd and quickly turn to leave. It was quiet enough for a conversation, darts and pool.

/RIP Ton 80


Not really the same thing, but there was a bar in San Francisco I used to go to often. Then one night they were having a lesbian night that I was unaware of. I walked through the door and about 30 heads all swiveled in my direction glaring. I did the Grandpa Simpson burlesque club thing and walked right back out.
 
2014-02-11 09:30:43 PM  

libranoelrose: People who go to public places to be left alone can just go fark themselves.


Bull. Not everyone can "go home" to relaxation and solitude.
 
2014-02-11 09:39:21 PM  

fusillade762: Not really the same thing, but there was a bar in San Francisco I used to go to often. Then one night they were having a lesbian night that I was unaware of. I walked through the door and about 30 heads all swiveled in my direction glaring. I did the Grandpa Simpson burlesque club thing and walked right back out.


Remember the name of the joint?
 
2014-02-11 09:39:45 PM  

fusillade762: laughin: brap: There is some merit to this.  I have always been a bar I can have a conversation aficionado so even when I was an 18 year-old I favored what everyone else called "old man" bars where the jukebox would go on occasionally but music or television weren't blaring everything out.

I'm sure the chickenhawks were aside themselves with libidinous ecstasy.

Yup. Used to go to one here where the college kids would walk in, look at the crowd and quickly turn to leave. It was quiet enough for a conversation, darts and pool.

/RIP Ton 80

Not really the same thing, but there was a bar in San Francisco I used to go to often. Then one night they were having a lesbian night that I was unaware of. I walked through the door and about 30 heads all swiveled in my direction glaring. I did the Grandpa Simpson burlesque club thing and walked right back out.


I did virtually the same thing in New York once. I was stopped at the door and told that it was Ladies' Night, but by then the four women I was with (mixed straight and gay FWIW) had already gone inside so I didn't have much choice but to say "I'm with them." upon which I was allowed inside.


Oh. So very awkward. Black and white lesbian erotica projected on the wall. 40 or 50 women on the dancefloor and me, the only man (and a straight one no less) in the place trying to blend into a wall and feeling very out of place.
 
2014-02-11 09:41:22 PM  
"Looks like there's going to be a fight going on. You going to play something good?"

i1.ytimg.com

"HELL YEAH! Rolling Stones - Street Fighting Man! G Sevvveeennnn!"

"You just hit G Eight."

*If you like Pina Colatas and getting caught in the rain*
 
2014-02-11 09:42:30 PM  
If you are in a public place you should expect to be spoken to/at and should be respectful in your reply.
 
2014-02-11 09:43:33 PM  
I like cheap light beer and sweetened ice tea.


\drtfa
\\is this where we order?
 
2014-02-11 09:46:58 PM  
Today in "Things That are Ruining America":

Curiously, Slate not mentioned.
 
2014-02-11 09:48:31 PM  
Things I've been told are "ruining America"

- Online Music
- Google
- Craigslist
- Online pr0n
- YouTube
- Linux
- Email

So far, we're still here.
 
2014-02-11 09:48:36 PM  

LibertyHiller: fusillade762: Not really the same thing, but there was a bar in San Francisco I used to go to often. Then one night they were having a lesbian night that I was unaware of. I walked through the door and about 30 heads all swiveled in my direction glaring. I did the Grandpa Simpson burlesque club thing and walked right back out.

Remember the name of the joint?


It was in the Mission. Something bird related, I think.

*Googles*

The Skylark. On 16th. Kinda shocked the place is still there with the same name.
 
2014-02-11 09:55:05 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: WHAT?


Yeah, yelling that across a table 50,000 times at someone whose pants you're trying to get into makes for some real stimulating conversation.  I can't understand why it isn't even more popular.
 
2014-02-11 09:56:11 PM  
I hate to say this, but a lot of times your best option for an okay bar, not too loud, but not a sleazy dive either, is to find a chain restaurant that has a full service bar.  If its one where the bartenders are women in slutty outfits, so much the better.
 
2014-02-11 10:05:15 PM  

Gordon Bennett: Oh. So very awkward. Black and white lesbian erotica projected on the wall. 40 or 50 women on the dancefloor and me, the only man (and a straight one no less) in the place trying to blend into a wall and feeling very out of place.


Lesbians don't make me uncomfortable so I don't really understand that in fact my most recently favorite closed "old man" bar was a kind of "old dyke" bar The Fifth Amendment (best repressed lesbian bar name ever BTW) but I did  have a similar experience once trying to get a cocktail in Henrietta (before they charged cover) Hudson , that's the only "angry about the penis" version of lesbianism I've ever been exposed to seemed for lack of a better word a bit "bridge and tunnel."
 
2014-02-11 10:12:00 PM  
Dumb article. Cafés are meant to be accommodating to people having casual conservation, but also to people working and studying while enjoying a coffee and pastry. The perfect café is one that has a nice low buzz of conversation, ambient music, and employees making coffee. NOT loud.
 
2014-02-11 10:14:18 PM  

DarkSoulNoHope: "Looks like there's going to be a fight going on. You going to play something good?"

[i1.ytimg.com image 480x358]

"HELL YEAH! Rolling Stones - Street Fighting Man! G Sevvveeennnn!"

"You just hit G Eight."

*If you like Pina Colatas and getting caught in the rain*


Came for this.

/saigon whores
 
2014-02-11 10:18:50 PM  

Candygram4Mongo: Nah. It's when the whole bar suddenly gets real quiet that you got a problem...


Generally preceded by someone blurting out "so THAT'S how you spell bukkake!"

/it happened but wasn't me. Hope I spelled it right here.
 
2014-02-11 10:32:14 PM  

brap: Lesbians don't make me uncomfortable so I don't really understand that


Lesbians don't make me uncomfortable at all. It was uncomfortable to be so very out of place.
 
2014-02-11 10:36:03 PM  
WAT
 
2014-02-11 10:45:00 PM  

FDR Jones: WAT


FDR Jones: WAT


I see what you did there with saying WAT twice

It makes you sound less able to hear, and there more vulnerable for any hot chix who might be predating you.

Nice move, bro
 
2014-02-11 11:08:13 PM  
Don't go to clubs and hipster/douche bars. How hard is that? I'm a raging alcoholic(mostly recovered) and I can't remember the last time the music was obnoxiously loud at a bar I frequented.

//The problem is YOU.
 
2014-02-11 11:56:07 PM  
Didn't waste my time to check the article but somehow I'm guessing that butthurt hipster writers from Slate weren't on the list.
 
2014-02-11 11:56:55 PM  

libranoelrose: If you are in a public place you should expect to be spoken to/at and should be respectful in your reply.


Why should I be respectful to somebody who won't respectfully leave me the hell alone?

/staff of said establishment excluded
//no, other people don't exist solely to amuse you
 
2014-02-12 12:13:09 AM  
The Green Dragon is one of my favorite places to go to lunch in the whole world.
 
2014-02-12 12:57:09 AM  
running huge deficits and de-industrialization  are what's killing america.
 
2014-02-12 01:33:00 AM  

soakitincider: running huge deficits and de-industrialization  are what's killing america.


You conservatives are so cute. I remember when my understanding of economics was so childish.
 
2014-02-12 01:42:38 AM  

pion: soakitincider: running huge deficits and de-industrialization  are what's killing america.

You conservatives are so cute. I remember when my understanding of economics was so childish.


nothing good comes from offshoring manufacturing (and other goods/services)
 
2014-02-12 01:51:32 AM  

NateAsbestos: libranoelrose: People who go to public places to be left alone can just go fark themselves.

Bull. Not everyone can "go home" to relaxation and solitude.


Or, maybe they are home alone all the freaking time and just want to go out and have something to eat they didn't make themselves... I tried that a couple of times when Lordfortuna started his new job and was spending half the week out of town. First time, I should have brought a book, because the food took forever and I was bored. Second time, I couldn't read my book because some jackass was forcing the rest of the bar to watch that goddamn Rudolph, the Red-Nosed Reindeer movie (it was slow). Third time, I went to a different place and the service was so fast I read about one page.

That was the last time I tried that experiment...
 
2014-02-12 03:28:40 AM  
One of my best friends works at a bar near a deaf school.  She is not deaf, but knows sign language.  Her bar is louder than all hell, and for that reason I hate it, but the deaf students patronize it because they can just shoot her a glance, and order by signing to her.

The volume level in most bars is a compelling reason to learn sign language.
 
2014-02-12 07:40:22 AM  
If you have to yell to have a conversation with someone sitting right next to you, it's too loud. I also hate going to a bar to watch a game. The game is on TV and the juke box is blasting. It's stupid. I don't go to cafes so I don't care about that.
 
2014-02-12 07:52:30 AM  
The whole "Revolution is impossible" theme seems like a pretty flimsy vehicle for the author to biatch about some first world problems.

We won't have another revolution because people aren't hurting badly enough. The problems we have are serious, yeah, but they aren't  "30% unemployment" serious.
 
2014-02-12 09:12:00 AM  

soakitincider: pion: soakitincider: running huge deficits and de-industrialization  are what's killing america.

You conservatives are so cute. I remember when my understanding of economics was so childish.

nothing good comes from offshoring manufacturing (and other goods/services)


Fight fight fight! kiss kiss kiss
 
2014-02-12 09:25:17 AM  

Reiderate: The whole "Revolution is impossible" theme seems like a pretty flimsy vehicle for the author to biatch about some first world problems.

We won't have another revolution because people aren't hurting badly enough. The problems we have are serious, yeah, but they aren't  "30% unemployment" serious.


It was a REALLY flimsy vehicle for the writer to saw BAWWWW bars I go to are too loud.
 
2014-02-12 10:41:50 AM  
Yoga pants on fat chicks should be on that list.


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4.bp.blogspot.com
media.peopleofwalmart.com


and to make up for those


i.imgur.com
 
2014-02-12 06:52:32 PM  
I carry earplugs with me at all times nowadays, because you never know where you're going to end up that's stupidly loud. It enables me to be sociable with the people I'm with and not fear for my long-term hearing. That said, most often "uncomfortably loud" coincides with "place I don't want to be anyway + no one I want to be with" so it's no loss for me to just avoid it.
 
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