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(CNN)   Winter storm of historic proportions set to hit the southeastern U.S. is like a repeat from two weeks ago, only worse   (cnn.com) divider line 222
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2014-02-11 10:49:27 PM  

John Buck 41: Rapmaster2000: [pbs.twimg.com image 848x824]

Might've been useful if there was an indication of where that was.


It's NW Georgia.  The 0.44 where the 3 roads meet in the center is Atlanta.
 
2014-02-11 10:51:44 PM  

TigerzDad: Ice/sleet/freezing rain with some snow...

AT LEAST 3 inches - could be much more


I live in Hall County and it was sleeting when I drove to work today.  Some minor snow fall today with ice/more rain expected tomorrow.  Everyone gets a snow day.
 
2014-02-11 10:54:41 PM  

Rapmaster2000: DoctorWhat: I'm always amused when someplace in the south shuts down for a few inches of snow.

*reads TFA*

Ice.  Ice is a different matter.  Ice storms suck no matter where you are.

The current prediction is that Augusta should prepare for 5-10 days of no power.  I've been following my part of Atlanta all day and the predictions have become steadily less dire.

Still, I lose power pretty much every afternoon in the summer due to overloading of the grid (this has been common in three different places in Atlanta that I've lived) and it's not uncommon to lose it about once every three months when a tree falls on a line.  This town has way too many trees for overhead power lines.  So, I'm planning on about 24 hours of no power.


That is odd. I have lived here for a dozen years and cannot remember the last time I lost power even in storms or anything. I am sure I have, but certainly never anything for more than an hour or so.
 
2014-02-11 10:56:04 PM  

RottenEggs: YabbaDabbaDouchebag: Virginia has already declared a state of emergency. Schools will close. People will panic. Snow might fall.

Meh.

4 wheel drives with VA tags upside down in the ditch tomorrow ?


FTFU
 
2014-02-11 10:56:43 PM  

tinfoil-hat maggie: Alright lets get things out of the way. Subby , you're an ass. I'm way late, wanted to talk real weather talk with people but well, sure lets make fun of people/cities with only enough sand/salt to maybe do overpasses bridges that is the south we close down for a day or two ,most I've seen in almost 30 years is 3 days and that was early March when we go 12 inches of snow lot's pf places east of us got more.


That is the fault of people voting for people that think taxes should not exist. If the red states governments were properly funded they would be prepared
 
2014-02-11 11:03:13 PM  
Really Atlanta? Really? This isn't the Apocalypse. It's a one day storm. You will be fine with the food you already have. No need to clear out groceries stores. You will be 43 degrees Thursday, 48 Friday and Saturday, and 58 Sunday. One day below freezing. That's it. Calm the f*ck down.

i.dailymail.co.uk
 
2014-02-11 11:06:04 PM  

No Such Agency: Pinhead Patriot: [static.fjcdn.com image 300x300]

It's easy to make fun of the South for not weathering this weather very well.  But they don't have any bloody snow tires, and their cities don't own fifty plows each.  Because normally that would be a big waste of money.


Thank you! Everything you said is true. Northerners that laugh at us must not understand climate. Yes, we get snow and can react accordingly, but when you get 2" of farking ICE you need a farking Zamboni machine to drive and that is only if you are on flat terrain,
 
2014-02-11 11:06:21 PM  

Walker: Really Atlanta? Really? This isn't the Apocalypse. It's a one day storm. You will be fine with the food you already have. No need to clear out groceries stores. You will be 43 degrees Thursday, 48 Friday and Saturday, and 58 Sunday. One day below freezing. That's it. Calm the f*ck down.


Mostly they're planning out parties, according to my friends living there.
 
2014-02-11 11:09:53 PM  

Walker: Really Atlanta? Really? This isn't the Apocalypse. It's a one day storm. You will be fine with the food you already have. No need to clear out groceries stores. You will be 43 degrees Thursday, 48 Friday and Saturday, and 58 Sunday. One day below freezing. That's it. Calm the f*ck down.


It isn't SNOW it is ICE. No one can be smug with ICE.

/learned to drive in the snow
 
2014-02-11 11:14:27 PM  

Walker: You will be 43 degrees Thursday, 48 Friday and Saturday, and 58 Sunday. One day below freezing. That's it. Calm the f*ck down.


Having lived here for a few years, I've learned that a day or two above freezing is not enough to melt ice that's accumulated.  If you try to drive on a day that's in the mid-to-upper 40s after ice has settled on the streets, you're going to have a bad time.

The principal problem is not snow or low temperatures.  The MAIN problem is ice on the streets, that doesn't melt quickly...and, ice on trees that brings down power lines.  You may be surprised by this, but melting ice doesn't magically repair power lines that have been disrupted.

Also, you see this:

media.nj.com

It's from New Jersey.  Before a snow storm.  Just Google "northeast snow storm" -- there are pages of images depicting the same thing.

And, frankly, I'm amazed you've gotten me to defend a city I absolutely hate.
 
2014-02-11 11:16:32 PM  

Warlordtrooper: tinfoil-hat maggie: Alright lets get things out of the way. Subby , you're an ass. I'm way late, wanted to talk real weather talk with people but well, sure lets make fun of people/cities with only enough sand/salt to maybe do overpasses bridges that is the south we close down for a day or two ,most I've seen in almost 30 years is 3 days and that was early March when we go 12 inches of snow lot's pf places east of us got more.

That is the fault of people voting for people that think taxes should not exist. If the red states governments were properly funded they would be prepared


Wut? Yea think every county should buy plows and salt trucks. that would at most get used twice a year. New level I see...
 
2014-02-11 11:17:43 PM  
How much is a few tons of salt (or sand) to a city with a budget like Atlanta? Just buy it and store it somewhere. It's not gonna spoil, FFS.
 
2014-02-11 11:20:23 PM  

Walker: Really Atlanta? Really? This isn't the Apocalypse. It's a one day storm. You will be fine with the food you already have. No need to clear out groceries stores. You will be 43 degrees Thursday, 48 Friday and Saturday, and 58 Sunday. One day below freezing. That's it. Calm the f*ck down.


Actually, for North Atlanta we're talking from Tuesday to Thursday.

South Atlanta we're talking Wednesday and Thursday.

This doesn't include things like the time it takes to thaw the city AFTER Thursday.
 
2014-02-11 11:23:36 PM  

John Buck 41: How much is a few tons of salt (or sand) to a city with a budget like Atlanta? Just buy it and store it somewhere. It's not gonna spoil, FFS.


And prove government is capable? Nonsense.

In all seriousness though - winter storms in Atlanta are historically unpredictable given its location.
 
2014-02-11 11:24:12 PM  

John Buck 41: How much is a few tons of salt (or sand) to a city with a budget like Atlanta? Just buy it and store it somewhere. It's not gonna spoil, FFS.


When it pours down rain immediately prior to icing...the salt and sand wash away. How do you solve that dilemma? I cannot believe I am defending Atlanta...but really...pick on some REAL shortcoming we have.
 
2014-02-11 11:26:36 PM  

John Buck 41: How much is a few tons of salt (or sand) to a city with a budget like Atlanta? Just buy it and store it somewhere. It's not gonna spoil, FFS.


Atlanta due to mismanagement can't even get enough water at times and you want them to do wut?

/Right, look Atlanta traffic can crash wist on wreck. With, snow,ice,etc. nothing is moving.

/Hate travailing to Atlanta.
 
2014-02-11 11:29:10 PM  

John Buck 41: How much is a few tons of salt (or sand) to a city with a budget like Atlanta? Just buy it and store it somewhere. It's not gonna spoil, FFS.


Lots of people think the government of the City of Atlanta controls the six million people that are commonly referred to as Atlantans.  It isn't true.

The City controls about 450K people (or, fewer than 8 per cent).  And, the State government is -- and, has been for as long as I've been here -- prejudiced against the city and the entire metro area.  Sure, the City brings in most of the money...but, if you're expecting State deployment of resources to reflect that fact, you're gonna have a hard time*.

* I've used this phraseology repeatedly.  It's deliberate.
 
2014-02-11 11:31:14 PM  
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I've got this.
 
2014-02-11 11:32:52 PM  
God I love it when they get a taste of snow down there.  I hope y'all freeze your asses off.  Deathstorm 2014 half an inch of snow and ice shut down everything!!!
 
2014-02-11 11:34:02 PM  

Bontesla: In all seriousness though - winter storms in Atlanta are historically unpredictable given its location.


Historically, storms like this are pretty common.  At least once or twice per season...prior to 2000, that is.  A bit less frequently recently.

Seriously.

I'd also like to applaud all of you for making me a cheerleader for a city that I farking hate.  I miss California more than any of you can possibly imagine.
 
2014-02-11 11:49:36 PM  

99.998er: Rapmaster2000: DoctorWhat: I'm always amused when someplace in the south shuts down for a few inches of snow.

*reads TFA*

Ice.  Ice is a different matter.  Ice storms suck no matter where you are.

The current prediction is that Augusta should prepare for 5-10 days of no power.  I've been following my part of Atlanta all day and the predictions have become steadily less dire.

Still, I lose power pretty much every afternoon in the summer due to overloading of the grid (this has been common in three different places in Atlanta that I've lived) and it's not uncommon to lose it about once every three months when a tree falls on a line.  This town has way too many trees for overhead power lines.  So, I'm planning on about 24 hours of no power.

That is odd. I have lived here for a dozen years and cannot remember the last time I lost power even in storms or anything. I am sure I have, but certainly never anything for more than an hour or so.


ITP has terrible air conditioning issues caused by infill.  My clocks are blinking every hot day in July when I come home from work.  I live in Oak Grove (the DeKalb one) and I also had these issues in Inman Park and Cabbagetown.  The power never goes out at my office in Suwanee.
 
2014-02-11 11:49:44 PM  
Bontesla:

tinfoil-hat Maggie:

coldf33t:

eraser8:


Just trying to offer a common sense suggestion. If your civic leaders are too short-sighted to accept it, I feel sorry for you.
 
2014-02-11 11:57:25 PM  
Rain just started.  It begins.
 
2014-02-12 12:01:57 AM  

eraser8: Bontesla: In all seriousness though - winter storms in Atlanta are historically unpredictable given its location.

Historically, storms like this are pretty common.  At least once or twice per season...prior to 2000, that is.  A bit less frequently recently.

Seriously.

I'd also like to applaud all of you for making me a cheerleader for a city that I farking hate.  I miss California more than any of you can possibly imagine.


I am sorry you hate Atlanta so much. I absolutely love this city. I am very liberal also (as your profile says you are). I find no problem finding cool friends and fascinating places & events. The climate is usually great and the people are friendly. The cost of living beats the hell out of any major city in the U.S. The crime rate is below average if you live anywhere in the northern part of the Perimeter. Maybe you should get out more or go back to California to be happy. I do not mean that to be condescending, just for you to be happy.
 
2014-02-12 12:02:51 AM  

John Buck 41: Just trying to offer a common sense suggestion. If your civic leaders are too short-sighted to accept it, I feel sorry for you.


The thing you may not understand is that there isn't one civic leader that takes charge.   Or, even two or three.  There are 30 to 40 of them.  And, they all jealously guard their domains.  They don't coordinate.

And, even within jurisdictions, there are overlapping authorities.  Mayor Reed controls the surface streets of Atlanta.  He has no control over the interstates that run through the City or the schools or the 80+% of the metro area that's commonly called Atlanta.  I'm honestly not sure why he'd want the job.

In any case, your "common sense" suggestion isn't exactly new.  All the local players know how disjointed the region is.  They don't seem to care.  They seem to care about their own local power...which, sometimes doesn't extend further than a few hundred feet from their physical offices.
 
2014-02-12 12:07:40 AM  

John Buck 41: Bontesla:

tinfoil-hat Maggie:

coldf33t:

eraser8:

Just trying to offer a common sense suggestion. If your civic leaders are too short-sighted to accept it, I feel sorry for you.


Well see it's take in a a bit of intelligence or knowledge of the problem/.I.m tote's fur sure ,an you could solve i with out addicting to Atlanta budget, ^rick.
 
2014-02-12 12:10:02 AM  

eraser8: In any case, your "common sense" suggestion isn't exactly new


you realize he is not really trying to promote "common sense" , but rather take a wussy swipe at a red state.
/not that it is not deserved, mind you
//keep safe
///looking at around 8" of snow up here near knoxville...in the mountains
////hope there is no ice
 
2014-02-12 12:11:34 AM  

Rapmaster2000: 99.998er: Rapmaster2000: DoctorWhat: I'm always amused when someplace in the south shuts down for a few inches of snow.

*reads TFA*

Ice.  Ice is a different matter.  Ice storms suck no matter where you are.

The current prediction is that Augusta should prepare for 5-10 days of no power.  I've been following my part of Atlanta all day and the predictions have become steadily less dire.

Still, I lose power pretty much every afternoon in the summer due to overloading of the grid (this has been common in three different places in Atlanta that I've lived) and it's not uncommon to lose it about once every three months when a tree falls on a line.  This town has way too many trees for overhead power lines.  So, I'm planning on about 24 hours of no power.

That is odd. I have lived here for a dozen years and cannot remember the last time I lost power even in storms or anything. I am sure I have, but certainly never anything for more than an hour or so.

ITP has terrible air conditioning issues caused by infill.  My clocks are blinking every hot day in July when I come home from work.  I live in Oak Grove (the DeKalb one) and I also had these issues in Inman Park and Cabbagetown.  The power never goes out at my office in Suwanee.


That is weird. My sister lived barely inside the Perimeter just off Lawrenceville Hwy. in Decatur. She had much more problems than I with power outages. However, she had more trees and such.
 
2014-02-12 12:11:41 AM  
As a 'Sconnie stick in NC, I can only say "what the farkity fark, south?"
 
2014-02-12 12:14:21 AM  

99.998er: Maybe you should get out more or go back to California to be happy. I do not mean that to be condescending, just for you to be happy.


I knew I loved California when I had just finished sky-diving and my friends and I had a hard time deciding whether we wanted to go skiing or go to the beach.  Each option was equally attractive.

If I'd come to Atlanta from any other place, I suspect I wouldn't be so negative.  Atlanta isn't a terrible place compared to some other places I've lived...but, compared to California, I hate it (even if I'm defending it from some of the nasty things people are saying about it now).
 
2014-02-12 12:19:23 AM  

eraser8: 99.998er: Maybe you should get out more or go back to California to be happy. I do not mean that to be condescending, just for you to be happy.

I knew I loved California when I had just finished sky-diving and my friends and I had a hard time deciding whether we wanted to go skiing or go to the beach.  Each option was equally attractive.

If I'd come to Atlanta from any other place, I suspect I wouldn't be so negative.  Atlanta isn't a terrible place compared to some other places I've lived...but, compared to California, I hate it (even if I'm defending it from some of the nasty things people are saying about it now).


OK...I am on your side, even though I love Atlanta. My nephew from San Diego came for a bit and was not impressed. Guess it has to grow on you and know where to go.
 
2014-02-12 12:25:23 AM  

tinfoil-hat maggie: John Buck 41: Bontesla:

tinfoil-hat Maggie:

coldf33t:

eraser8:

Just trying to offer a common sense suggestion. If your civic leaders are too short-sighted to accept it, I feel sorry for you.

Well see it's take in a a bit of intelligence or knowledge of the problem/.I.m tote's fur sure ,an you could solve i with out addicting to Atlanta budget, ^rick.


I have no idea what you're trying to say here.
 
2014-02-12 12:28:59 AM  

mr lawson: you realize he is not really trying to promote "common sense" , but rather take a wussy swipe at a red state.


Wrong. What I posted was as far from a wussy swipe as possible. If you want to think otherwise, have fun.
 
2014-02-12 12:31:42 AM  

John Buck 41: tinfoil-hat maggie: John Buck 41: Bontesla:

tinfoil-hat Maggie:

coldf33t:

eraser8:

Just trying to offer a common sense suggestion. If your civic leaders are too short-sighted to accept it, I feel sorry for you.

Well see it's take in a a bit of intelligence or knowledge of the problem/.I.m tote's fur sure ,an you could solve i with out addicting to Atlanta budget, ^rick.

I have no idea what you're trying to say here.


Easy to explain John. Maggie is talking in code to his/her alien friends. The Apocalypse is near friend. Stock up now!
 
2014-02-12 12:34:22 AM  

Rapmaster2000: Rain just started.  It begins.


Sleeting in Buford. Going to bed. Stay safe all.
 
2014-02-12 12:34:23 AM  
i160.photobucket.com
 
2014-02-12 12:35:44 AM  
bullshiat...your "common sense" is just a different variety of our "Bless your Heart" crap.
 
2014-02-12 12:37:51 AM  

eraser8: John Buck 41: Just trying to offer a common sense suggestion. If your civic leaders are too short-sighted to accept it, I feel sorry for you.

The thing you may not understand is that there isn't one civic leader that takes charge.   Or, even two or three.  There are 30 to 40 of them.  And, they all jealously guard their domains.  They don't coordinate.

And, even within jurisdictions, there are overlapping authorities.  Mayor Reed controls the surface streets of Atlanta.  He has no control over the interstates that run through the City or the schools or the 80+% of the metro area that's commonly called Atlanta.  I'm honestly not sure why he'd want the job.

In any case, your "common sense" suggestion isn't exactly new.  All the local players know how disjointed the region is.  They don't seem to care.  They seem to care about their own local power...which, sometimes doesn't extend further than a few hundred feet from their physical offices.


Wow. After reading that I feel even more sorry for you than I did before.

Here? State takes care of state roads and I-95. Towns/cities deal with their own roads/streets. For the most part we get from point A to point B just fine. One has to be careful and slow down but it's no big deal 95+% of the time. I hate the cold from mid October til mid April but driving is not a big deal. Helps when one has 40 years of experience.

Stay well, southerners.
 
2014-02-12 12:38:42 AM  

John Buck 41: tinfoil-hat maggie: John Buck 41: Bontesla:

tinfoil-hat Maggie:

coldf33t:

eraser8:

Just trying to offer a common sense suggestion. If your civic leaders are too short-sighted to accept it, I feel sorry for you.

Well see it's take in a a bit of intelligence or knowledge of the problem/.I.m tote's fur sure ,an you could solve i with out addicting to Atlanta budget, ^rick.

I have no idea what you're trying to say here.


I'm saying it snows maybe one a year. Most of the time not even that but you go on with your comments on how to fix it? I'm sure they'll be interested.
 
2014-02-12 12:43:02 AM  

mr lawson: bullshiat...your "common sense" is just a different variety of our "Bless your Heart" crap.


Really? You think a major metropolitan area stocking up on salt and sand isn't a good idea? Even if they'll only use it rarely?

REALLY?

Don't make me post something I'm dying to.

Fark it. I'm going to bed. See you all (FU*K---I meant 'y'all') in the morning.
 
2014-02-12 12:43:43 AM  

vengethis: [i160.photobucket.com image 184x273]



An inch of ICE dickhead.
i2.cdn.turner.com
 
2014-02-12 12:49:40 AM  

John Buck 41: mr lawson: bullshiat...your "common sense" is just a different variety of our "Bless your Heart" crap.

Really? You think a major metropolitan area stocking up on salt and sand isn't a good idea? Even if they'll only use it rarely?

REALLY?

Don't make me post something I'm dying to.

Fark it. I'm going to bed. See you all (FU*K---I meant 'y'all') in the morning.


oh...you mean doing something this?
 
2014-02-12 01:01:00 AM  

BravadoGT: Atlanta has cleaned the shelves.  My wife just came back from the store with TP.  Scott's.

WTF?  She's a philistine


You have to make do in a crisis.
 
2014-02-12 01:01:05 AM  

mr lawson: John Buck 41: mr lawson: bullshiat...your "common sense" is just a different variety of our "Bless your Heart" crap.

Really? You think a major metropolitan area stocking up on salt and sand isn't a good idea? Even if they'll only use it rarely?

REALLY?

Don't make me post something I'm dying to.

Fark it. I'm going to bed. See you all (FU*K---I meant 'y'all') in the morning.

oh...you mean doing something this?


Do you have a better plan with the limited resources available? Since storms like this reach the South maybe once a decade, what is your idea? Flamethrowers to clear 285?
 
2014-02-12 01:02:05 AM  

AliceBToklasLives: I might laugh at silly southerners, but is Denver really prepared for a tsunami?


Don't try and bring critical thinking into this
 
2014-02-12 01:04:02 AM  

99.998er: Do you have a better plan with the limited resources available? Since storms like this reach the South maybe once a decade, what is your idea? Flamethrowers to clear 285?


err...was that directed at me or the "enlighten, common sense" guy?
 
2014-02-12 01:04:47 AM  
who..mind you...couldn't find Atlanta on a map of GA....lol
 
2014-02-12 01:17:30 AM  

mr lawson: 99.998er: Do you have a better plan with the limited resources available? Since storms like this reach the South maybe once a decade, what is your idea? Flamethrowers to clear 285?

err...was that directed at me or the "enlighten, common sense" guy?


At you, Mr. Lawson.
 
FNG [TotalFark]
2014-02-12 01:22:02 AM  
We had this entire "the south is stupid" thread two weeks ago, with everyone saying pretty much exactly the same things.

To summarize:

It's not the cost of storing the salt and sand, it's the cost of buying and maintaining the 4,000+ trucks that actually distribute it
Atlanta is a very sprawled out metro area
Georgia and Atlanta officials have already mea culpa'd for the clusterfark two weeks ago, they will be as ready as they can be this time
Ice is not snow
Good for all you northerners who laugh, you live with it every year, and are prepared. Southerners generally do not, and are not
I don't care how well you drive in inclement weather, there will always be someone else to fark up your car for you

That should pretty much settle everything.
 
2014-02-12 01:22:08 AM  

99.998er: mr lawson: 99.998er: Do you have a better plan with the limited resources available? Since storms like this reach the South maybe once a decade, what is your idea? Flamethrowers to clear 285?

err...was that directed at me or the "enlighten, common sense" guy?

At you, Mr. Lawson.


My "idea" is doing exactly what you all are doing and what we are doing up here in knoxville...the best we can..for something we don't get very often.
 
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