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(Charleston Gazette)   A coal preparation facility has spilled an unknown quantity of coal slurry into a creek, polluting the water, in West Virginia. This is not a repeat from the last time this happened   (wvgazette.com ) divider line
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2014-02-11 02:47:20 PM  
Have they filed for bankruptcy yet?
 
2014-02-11 02:48:06 PM  
Don't worry, the free market will fix this.
 
2014-02-11 02:48:47 PM  
Maybe all that coal will filter the water, right, RIGHT?
 
2014-02-11 02:49:00 PM  
Freedom, Freedom, Freedom OY!
 
2014-02-11 02:49:23 PM  

Chalji: Don't worry, the free market will fix this.


and we are done
 
2014-02-11 02:49:25 PM  
Not this shiat again...

/still drinking bottled water after the chemical spill
 
2014-02-11 02:50:01 PM  

Chalji: Don't worry, the free market will fix this.


The market will speak. This river will take its business elsewhere.
 
2014-02-11 02:50:56 PM  
Maybe they should, you know, not spill shiat!
 
2014-02-11 02:50:58 PM  
Pipelines rupture, a good reason to build the Keystone XL line, think of all that free oil we could pick up where it ruptures.
 
2014-02-11 02:51:07 PM  
A coal preparation facility has spilled an unknown quantity of coal slurry into a creek, polluting the water

In Russia?

in West Virginia.

*sigh*
 
2014-02-11 02:51:33 PM  
Isn't "thing happened that happened last time" the definition of "repeat"?
 
2014-02-11 02:54:00 PM  
Before you libs go and impugn the coal slurry job creators, you better sit back and think about what you'd do without all that coal slurry does for you.  You'll be sorry when these hard working coal slurry job creators GO GALT and then there is no place for you to get coal slurry.  Didn't think about that, did you?
 
2014-02-11 02:56:03 PM  

Chalji: Don't worry, the free market will fix this.


It would if there was a little incentive called hanging the execs of the company that makes a spill.  The next batch of execs won't cut corners.
 
2014-02-11 02:56:18 PM  
Coal. It keeps the water off.
 
2014-02-11 02:57:09 PM  
Let's just hope the regulators don't let a good crisis go to waste.
 
2014-02-11 02:57:57 PM  

Mentalpatient87: Freedom, Freedom, Freedom OY!


There's no denying it. The future is crazy. Oh well, don't want to stand out!

www.quickmeme.com
 
2014-02-11 02:58:58 PM  
FTA: "The team found that existing policies and procedures are not effective in reducing or preventing blackwater spills," said the OSM report, issued in October 2009.

Corporations are people.
 
2014-02-11 02:59:44 PM  

sdd2000: Pipelines rupture, a good reason to build the Keystone XL line, think of all that free oil we could pick up where it ruptures.


No I was told oil pipelines never rupture and are 100% safe.  Of course this was told to me by the same people who told me that tax cuts trickle down, so take it for what it's worth.
 
2014-02-11 02:59:50 PM  
That's it.  We need to take away white people guns again.
 
2014-02-11 03:00:09 PM  
How unfortunate.
 
2014-02-11 03:00:29 PM  

August11: FTA: "The team found that existing policies and procedures are not effective in reducing or preventing blackwater spills," said the OSM report, issued in October 2009.

Corporations are people.


And people make mistakes, which is why we need Jesus.
 
2014-02-11 03:02:49 PM  

Rapmaster2000: Before you libs go and impugn the coal slurry job creators, you better sit back and think about what you'd do without all that coal slurry does for you.  You'll be sorry when these hard working coal slurry job creators GO GALT and then there is no place for you to get coal slurry.  Didn't think about that, did you?


I like coal slurry poured on my flapjacks, stirred into my coffee, and fried to a golden brown in a skillet. Coal slurry: it's what's for breakfast!
 
2014-02-11 03:04:20 PM  
Remember, according to Ted Cruz we need to invest in more coal production and reduce regulations on the coal industry.
 
2014-02-11 03:05:07 PM  
The follow ups will read something like...

Exxon oil spill town 'deserted land', residents still getting sick, forced to abandon homes

Former Mayflower resident Ann Jarrell said she "tried to stay here for as much as I could," but every time it rained, oil vapor would return. Like many other locals, she started having constant headaches and coughing after the spill, she said.

"I have friends who still live here. They don't have a place to go. They have small children... and they're all sick," she told RT.
 
2014-02-11 03:05:23 PM  
Don't worry guys, Homeland Security says it's a a big bunch of "nothing"...

Jimmy Gianato, director of the MAPS Division of Homeland Security and Emergency Management, said he didn't have a lot of details on the incident, but was under the impression it wasn't that serious.
"I don't think there's really anything to it," Gianato said. "It turned out to be much of nothing."
 
2014-02-11 03:06:57 PM  

doyner: August11: FTA: "The team found that existing policies and procedures are not effective in reducing or preventing blackwater spills," said the OSM report, issued in October 2009.

Corporations are people.

And people make mistakes, which is why we need Jesus.


Jesus Incoporated.
Entire business plan based on extracting money from people to buy forgiveness from Jesus Inc. That way in press conferences, industry titans, executives, CEOs and other people who are rich can say with a sincere glint in their eye "Jesus has forgiven me."

And now Jesus Incoporated serves smaller clients too! For a low subscription price, you too can claim Jesus' forgiveness as often as is required.
 
2014-02-11 03:07:04 PM  

neversubmit: The follow ups will read something like...

Exxon oil spill town 'deserted land', residents still getting sick, forced to abandon homes

Former Mayflower resident Ann Jarrell said she "tried to stay here for as much as I could," but every time it rained, oil vapor would return. Like many other locals, she started having constant headaches and coughing after the spill, she said.

"I have friends who still live here. They don't have a place to go. They have small children... and they're all sick," she told RT.


I wouldn't worry. The free market will crush Exxon any day now, and then all of Ms. Jarrell's problems will be solved.
 
2014-02-11 03:08:05 PM  

Chalji: Don't worry, the free market will fix this.


Genetically engineer aquatic pets to live off coal slurry so when the local wildlife dies off, you can be rest assured the pets you flushed will flourish and clean the rivers for us.
 
2014-02-11 03:08:32 PM  
I prefer this kind of energy biproduct disaster to, say, 100 nuclear reactors simultaneously having meltdowns and releasing radiation into our air and water.  So really, we've lucked out here and everything's OK.
 
2014-02-11 03:09:48 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: Chalji: Don't worry, the free market will fix this.

It would if there was a little incentive called hanging the execs of the company that makes a spill.  The next batch of execs won't cut corners.


And discourage other job creators from job creating?
 
2014-02-11 03:10:45 PM  

Mikey1969: Don't worry guys, Homeland Security says it's a a big bunch of "nothing"...

Jimmy Gianato, director of the MAPS Division of Homeland Security and Emergency Management, said he didn't have a lot of details on the incident, but was under the impression it wasn't that serious.
"I don't think there's really anything to it," Gianato said. "It turned out to be much of nothing."


I found this disturbing.
 
2014-02-11 03:12:36 PM  
You want to feel bad for West Virginia but they are like the dude who owns 200 poisonous snakes and spiders and then gets killed by one. Coincidentally this guy would also be living in West Virginia.
 
2014-02-11 03:13:41 PM  

JoieD'Zen: Mikey1969: Don't worry guys, Homeland Security says it's a a big bunch of "nothing"...

Jimmy Gianato, director of the MAPS Division of Homeland Security and Emergency Management, said he didn't have a lot of details on the incident, but was under the impression it wasn't that serious.
"I don't think there's really anything to it," Gianato said. "It turned out to be much of nothing."

I found this disturbing.


Today its a much of nothing, but I bet in a week they will admit that its actually a nothing much. Slurryghazi!
 
2014-02-11 03:14:05 PM  
Water? Like from the toilet?
 
2014-02-11 03:14:39 PM  

super_grass: Maybe all that coal will filter the water, right, RIGHT?


Of course. Coal is mostly carbon, and so is the activated charcoal that they use in water filters.
 
2014-02-11 03:14:44 PM  

WTFDYW: How unfortunate.


Sounds fishy. Where's Obama?
 
2014-02-11 03:16:03 PM  
West Virginia is just jealous that North Carolina temporarily stole it's spotlight.

http://www.news-record.com/news/local_news/article_b2c74f64-92cd-11e 3- 9a0f-001a4bcf6878.html
 
2014-02-11 03:16:22 PM  
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coal_slurry

Just for kicks I checked Wiki on this. it appears that WV isn't so lucky with these types of disasters.
In '72 there was a massive disaster which was defined as an Act of God.
Holy sh*t!
 
2014-02-11 03:18:39 PM  

Ivo Shandor: super_grass: Maybe all that coal will filter the water, right, RIGHT?

Of course. Coal is mostly carbon, and so is the activated charcoal that they use in water filters.


The good Lord has created a giant Britta filter for WV. They should be thankful.
 
2014-02-11 03:18:55 PM  

JoieD'Zen: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coal_slurry

Just for kicks I checked Wiki on this. it appears that WV isn't so lucky with these types of disasters.
In '72 there was a massive disaster which was defined as an Act of God.
Holy sh*t!


Buffalo Creek. My grandfather helped with the clean-up after that. 125 people were killed. Glad I got out of WV as soon as I could. Although, now I'm in NJ, so...
 
2014-02-11 03:19:01 PM  
i.chzbgr.com
 
2014-02-11 03:19:35 PM  

LarryDan43: Smeggy Smurf: Chalji: Don't worry, the free market will fix this.

It would if there was a little incentive called hanging the execs of the company that makes a spill.  The next batch of execs won't cut corners.

And discourage other job creators from job creating?


You guys can laugh, but the reality is that there's a bunch of jobs being created in the hazardous waste cleanup industry.  Business is booming!  And oozing.
 
2014-02-11 03:19:43 PM  
spotlightwv.com
 
2014-02-11 03:20:49 PM  
If I were to hand out red stripe bottles filled with styrofoam peanuts.... could I get in trouble??

The fact that nothing has been burned down yet shows how whipped we are as a people.
 
2014-02-11 03:20:50 PM  

theorellior: I like coal slurry poured on my flapjacks, stirred into my coffee, and fried to a golden brown in a skillet. Coal slurry: it's what's for breakfast!


Kim Jong Un would like a word...
 
2014-02-11 03:23:24 PM  

JoieD'Zen: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coal_slurry

Just for kicks I checked Wiki on this. it appears that WV isn't so lucky with these types of disasters.
In '72 there was a massive disaster which was defined as an Act of God.
Holy sh*t!


Ghey marriage is obviously to blame.
 
2014-02-11 03:28:21 PM  
Thanks Coalboma
 
2014-02-11 03:28:31 PM  
Huh, last time it was Freedom Industries, this time it's Patriot Coal.  Go USA.  Pretty soon WV is going to be one big toxic waste dump.  Which is too bad because most of the state has some really beautiful scenery.
 
2014-02-11 03:29:17 PM  
It's OK.
White conservatives don't like any government regulation.
It only restricts businesses and prevents jobs!
Also, "pollution" is liberal propaganda.
Obummer hates coal.
 
2014-02-11 03:29:30 PM  

theorellior: Rapmaster2000: Before you libs go and impugn the coal slurry job creators, you better sit back and think about what you'd do without all that coal slurry does for you.  You'll be sorry when these hard working coal slurry job creators GO GALT and then there is no place for you to get coal slurry.  Didn't think about that, did you?

I like coal slurry poured on my flapjacks, stirred into my coffee, and fried to a golden brown in a skillet. Coal slurry: it's what's for breakfast!


Tudor's Biscuits say's your doing it way wrong...
 
2014-02-11 03:30:02 PM  

JoieD'Zen: Mikey1969: Don't worry guys, Homeland Security says it's a a big bunch of "nothing"...

Jimmy Gianato, director of the MAPS Division of Homeland Security and Emergency Management, said he didn't have a lot of details on the incident, but was under the impression it wasn't that serious.
"I don't think there's really anything to it," Gianato said. "It turned out to be much of nothing."

I found this disturbing.


Yeah, me too.  I wonder if the guy meant "nothing" as far as terrorism or something goes? Whatever the situation, he sure as hell is gonna be getting in some trouble. When you speak in official capacity, what you say goes on the record.
 
2014-02-11 03:30:18 PM  
What can brownfield do for you?

It is difficult to estimate the total number of brownfields in the U.S. The GAO estimates that there are as many as 425,000 brownfields throughout the U.S. Some estimates show that there are 5 million acres of abandoned industrial sites in our nation's cities - roughly the same amount of land occupied by 60 of our largest cities.

Meh, five million out of two and a half billion ain't nothing but where do we draw the line?
 
2014-02-11 03:30:54 PM  

tricycleracer: Chalji: Don't worry, the free market will fix this.

The market will speak. This river will take its business elsewhere.


Obama says you didn't build that river!!
 
2014-02-11 03:32:02 PM  

Mikey1969: Don't worry guys, Homeland Security says it's a a big bunch of "nothing"...

Jimmy Gianato, director of the MAPS Division of Homeland Security and Emergency Management, said he didn't have a lot of details on the incident, but was under the impression it wasn't that serious.
"I don't think there's really anything to it," Gianato said. "It turned out to be much of nothing."


What an arrogant a-hole.
 
2014-02-11 03:34:02 PM  
Coal is all natural. This so-called "disaster" simply returned the coal to it's original environment.
 
2014-02-11 03:34:52 PM  

DubtodaIll: Let's just hope the regulators don't let a good crisis go to waste.


What regulators?

The EPA got it's budget cut.
 
2014-02-11 03:38:22 PM  
Still not drinking the Sochi water here after ONE SOLID MONTH.
/maybe solid wasn't such a good word to use after all
//still seething from that preposterous "investigative hearing" we had in Charleston yesterday
///slashies
 
2014-02-11 03:38:28 PM  

Chalji: Don't worry, the free market will fix this.



images.dangerousminds.net
 
2014-02-11 03:40:16 PM  
Word count

Spill: 6
Accident: 0
 
2014-02-11 03:43:39 PM  
I like to think us citizens of West Virginia are just slowly building up our toxic tolerance and will soon become the new master race.

/lived here all my life and I'm doing ok
//just wish the stupid grass would stop singing
///and why are all the playdoh steeple snowflakes rampant cockles bushy morning flow stops?
 
2014-02-11 03:43:46 PM  
We can totally trust these industries to regulate themselves... Totally.
 
2014-02-11 03:47:02 PM  
I love the names of these coal companies, its like there are following a derp manual from conception to when they register their business license.

Freedom Industries
Patriot Coal

I would probably short the stock on Liberty Slurry next.
 
2014-02-11 03:48:30 PM  

Rapmaster2000: Before you libs go and impugn the coal slurry job creators, you better sit back and think about what you'd do without all that coal slurry does for you.  You'll be sorry when these hard working coal slurry job creators GO GALT and then there is no place for you to get coal slurry.  Didn't think about that, did you?


To be fair, all that "trickle down" theory didn't say money.
 
2014-02-11 03:52:13 PM  
Collective karma.
 
2014-02-11 03:52:32 PM  

Cold_Sassy: uh, last time it was Freedom Industries, this time it's Patriot Coal.  Go USA.  Pretty soon WV is going to be one big toxic waste dump.  Which is too bad because most of the state has some really beautiful scenery.


The Liberty Toxic All American Waste Dump and Minority Voting Center
 
2014-02-11 03:53:57 PM  

meat0918: DubtodaIll: Let's just hope the regulators don't let a good crisis go to waste.

What regulators?

The EPA got it's budget cut.


That's true, I did find it surprising that the republicans would cut the budget of an organization they created.
 
2014-02-11 03:54:12 PM  

Cold_Sassy: Huh, last time it was Freedom Industries, this time it's Patriot Coal.  Go USA.  Pretty soon WV is going to be one big toxic waste dump.  Which is too bad because most of the state has some really beautiful scenery.


Not anymore.
 
2014-02-11 03:56:07 PM  
I don't think any of you farkproglibtards get the concept of property rights.
 
2014-02-11 03:58:07 PM  
snltranscripts.jt.org

Wow! That's terrific slurry!
 
2014-02-11 03:58:49 PM  

Nightenstaff: ///and why are all the playdoh steeple snowflakes rampant cockles bushy morning flow stops?


I don't know. I just don't know.

But . . . then, does anyone know where the bushy morning flow stops?
 
2014-02-11 03:59:02 PM  

rzrwiresunrise: I don't think any of you farkproglibtards get the concept of property rights.


Well sure we do.  You spoil the environment, then lose your property as payment.
 
2014-02-11 04:01:58 PM  
Thankfully, they don't need any regulating or oversight.  If they do something wrong, the free market will simply take care of things.  If the water is toxic, people will simply stop buying that water and buy other water.  If the air is toxic, buy different air.

Personally, West Virginia deserves this opportunity to pull themselves up by their bootstraps.
 
2014-02-11 04:02:29 PM  
Status quo for WV now-a-days. Nothing is going to change either. That industry is wayyyyyy too entrenched to go anywhere. You would think things like this would piss the normal townsfolk off enough to vote in better environmental regulat.... hahaha yeah I couldn't even finish that sentence, I mean who are we kidding here. Funny how history constantly repeats itself when you don't change anything.
 
2014-02-11 04:08:37 PM  
♫ Old black water, keep on rollin'...
Mississippi West Virginia moon, won't you keep on shinin' on me... ♫
 
2014-02-11 04:10:33 PM  

stevetherobot: Cold_Sassy: Huh, last time it was Freedom Industries, this time it's Patriot Coal.  Go USA.  Pretty soon WV is going to be one big toxic waste dump.  Which is too bad because most of the state has some really beautiful scenery.

Not anymore.


Wha??  I don't think they've razed any mountains yet and the gorge is still there.  Monongahela National Forest is still there...that's very nice.
 
2014-02-11 04:14:14 PM  

rev. dave: rzrwiresunrise: I don't think any of you farkproglibtards get the concept of property rights.

Well sure we do.  You spoil the environment, then lose your property as payment.


That's socialist! The proper American response involves a long drop and a short rope.

Seriously, accidents do happen. But, first, clean up your mess. Bankruptcy should only be allowed after using every last cent the company has to fix the problem. Second, if you weren't using industry best practices and following all regulations, there should be criminal liability in addition to the civil.
 
2014-02-11 04:14:40 PM  

Chalji: Don't worry,


Little slurry?

/with a fringe on the top
 
2014-02-11 04:14:41 PM  
When the coal companies are done, West Virginia will look like a mix of Haiti and the surface of the moon.
 
2014-02-11 04:20:46 PM  
West Virginia. A state so farked up you could toss a match at it and . . . problem solved.
 
2014-02-11 04:24:21 PM  

The Beatings Will Continue Until Morale Improves: When the coal companies are done, West Virginia will look like a mix of Haiti and the surface of the moon.


Before...

Blackwater River Canyon West Virginia

upload.wikimedia.org

After...

Tar Sands in Alberta, Canada

jacksparker.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-02-11 04:27:55 PM  

Cold_Sassy: Huh, last time it was Freedom Industries, this time it's Patriot Coal.  Go USA.  Pretty soon WV is going to be one big toxic waste dump.  Which is too bad because most of the state has some really beautiful scenery.


They name themselves like that, because the people who work for them have bought into a myth that coal is patriotic, and it helps them win workers cheaper.    The exact same people that vote for this to be legal are working for less than they are worth, because they imagine themselves as politically aligned.  It's like how there are scams targeting readers of conservative websites, because republicans are suckers.
 
2014-02-11 04:30:18 PM  

neversubmit: The Beatings Will Continue Until Morale Improves: When the coal companies are done, West Virginia will look like a mix of Haiti and the surface of the moon.

Before...

Blackwater River Canyon West Virginia

[upload.wikimedia.org image 850x637]

After...

Tar Sands in Alberta, Canada

[jacksparker.files.wordpress.com image 850x681]


Good god. Who the hell would want to live or work in view of that grotesque, tree-lined canyon when they could be next to that gorgeously strip-mined pit?
 
2014-02-11 04:31:49 PM  

LarryDan43: Smeggy Smurf: Chalji: Don't worry, the free market will fix this.

It would if there was a little incentive called hanging the execs of the company that makes a spill.  The next batch of execs won't cut corners.

And discourage other job creators from job creating?


We only want people honest enough to not need hanging to create jobs
 
2014-02-11 04:31:54 PM  

sdd2000: Pipelines rupture, a good reason to build the Keystone XL line, think of all that free oil we could pick up where it ruptures.


Free oil and chocolate wildlife.
 
2014-02-11 04:32:21 PM  

rev. dave: rzrwiresunrise: I don't think any of you farkproglibtards get the concept of property rights.

Well sure we do.  You spoil the environment, then lose your property as payment.


A river gets a little muddy and you want to get all grabby with someone else's stuff. Pretty selective too. I don't see you getting all huffy with the valve manufacturer. What, you weren't one of those who wanted to have gun manufacturers held responsible for gun deaths? Suuuuuuuuure, buddy. Stay consistent.
 
2014-02-11 04:33:01 PM  

August11: FTA: "The team found that existing policies and procedures are not effective in reducing or preventing blackwater spills," said the OSM report, issued in October 2009.

Corporations are people.


So is Soylent Green.
 
2014-02-11 04:33:46 PM  

qorkfiend: neversubmit: The follow ups will read something like...

Exxon oil spill town 'deserted land', residents still getting sick, forced to abandon homes

Former Mayflower resident Ann Jarrell said she "tried to stay here for as much as I could," but every time it rained, oil vapor would return. Like many other locals, she started having constant headaches and coughing after the spill, she said.

"I have friends who still live here. They don't have a place to go. They have small children... and they're all sick," she told RT.

I wouldn't worry. The free market will crush Exxon any day now, and then all of Ms. Jarrell's problems will be solved.


The realty signs in the first video are from "crye-Leike" realty
 
2014-02-11 04:34:38 PM  

Serious Black: neversubmit: The Beatings Will Continue Until Morale Improves: When the coal companies are done, West Virginia will look like a mix of Haiti and the surface of the moon.

Before...

Blackwater River Canyon West Virginia

[upload.wikimedia.org image 850x637]

After...

Tar Sands in Alberta, Canada

[jacksparker.files.wordpress.com image 850x681]

Good god. Who the hell would want to live or work in view of that grotesque, tree-lined canyon when they could be next to that gorgeously strip-mined pit?


Crazy people that's who!
 
2014-02-11 04:35:23 PM  
Mr. Peabody's coal train done hauled it away.

See, children, this great american folk classic teaches you what is wrong with you and your state.
Start off with a "Mr" for the man that is raping your land.
Then a "Done hauled" to show your lack of education and failure to understand the complications of big business and how things are, i.e. money talks and you can walk, hill billy.
And end up with an "Away" which symbolizes the duality of life and money.
Any money you ever could have had has been taken "away".
And your life, we will send it away to fight in a war over cheap oil.
And you will die, "away" because you're too stupid to understand we can't get rich enough on your coal as it is.
That or the coal, mine. Your choice, hill billy. It's not like you're getting the same edjumakashun other kids get in America. OK, Lesson over, pull out your Br'er Rabbits, and commence to lesson number elebenteem.

Thank you, Pete Seegar and Woody for coming down here and teaching our kids some important lessons today.
Kid's, thank the nice smelly, hippies for singing for you.
 
2014-02-11 04:37:38 PM  

Prof. Frink: Isn't "thing happened that happened last time" the definition of "repeat"?


Not by FARK dictionary, repeat means same story told again from a different source.

It wouldn't be considered a repeat if after you tell the 'Pete & Repeat' joke, and you later tell the 'Steve & Repeat' joke.
 
2014-02-11 04:39:47 PM  
And yet the average idiot is absolutely terrified of nuclear power and the word radiation.

That's it, I'm farking done. Stop the planet. I want to get off.
 
2014-02-11 04:41:52 PM  
And by  "last time this happened" you mean less than a week ago in NC?"  yep.  At least in WV the Governor isn't an ex-employee of the company doing the spilling, and the DNR didnn;t step in to block environmentalists lawsuits demanding the site be cleaned up before the spill, the way they did in NC.


Still the same outcome though
 
2014-02-11 04:45:38 PM  

Alexei Novikov: And yet the average idiot is absolutely terrified of nuclear power and the word radiation.

That's it, I'm farking done. Stop the planet. I want to get off.


I'll come. Split the fair?
 
2014-02-11 04:47:15 PM  

rzrwiresunrise: A river gets a little muddy and you want to get all grabby with someone else's stuff.


See, the guy in the 88 Cops thread could take some notes from this one.
 
2014-02-11 04:48:22 PM  

sdd2000: Pipelines rupture, a good reason to build the Keystone XL line, think of all that free oil we could pick up where it ruptures.


Of course, if pipelines aren't built, then oil transportation grinds to a stop, since pipelines are the only way that oil can possibly be moved around.  So, really, the choice is between pipelines that spill half of what goes into them, and a clean, utopian nation that realizes once and for all the folly of its dependance on petroleum and abandons oil once and for all.  We all join hands and sing "Imagine" by John Lennon as flowers bloom and the smiling sun shines down from an azure sky.  The choice could not be more clear!

/ or, more likely, that same oil will be put into other existing pipelines and/or a series of rail cars and shipped around by alternate means -- which are equally (if not more) subject to possible spills
 
2014-02-11 05:02:34 PM  
Let Mitch McConnell's wife run the investigation, SHE'll make those bastards pay!
 
2014-02-11 05:03:01 PM  

meat0918: DubtodaIll: Let's just hope the regulators don't let a good crisis go to waste.

What regulators?

The EPA got it's budget cut.


Proofreader's got their's cut also?
 
2014-02-11 05:06:51 PM  

jshine: or a series of rail cars and shipped around by alternate means -- which are equally (if not more) subject to possible spills


Give me a pipeline rupture over a train derailment any day
 
2014-02-11 05:09:09 PM  
Serious Black:

Good god. Who the hell would want to live or work in view of that grotesque, tree-lined canyon when they could be next to that gorgeously strip-mined pit Alberta?

FTFY

/good question, though
 
2014-02-11 05:09:49 PM  

Mentalpatient87: rzrwiresunrise: A river gets a little muddy and you want to get all grabby with someone else's stuff.

See, the guy in the 88 Cops thread could take some notes from this one.


Damnit.

What the hell gave me away...
 
2014-02-11 05:14:26 PM  
Coal slurry contains a large range of constituents, including dissolved minerals that have been leached or washed out of the coal and other rocks. In addition, the slurry contains chemicals added to facilitate the washing or water re-use processes. One of these chemicals is acrylamide. Other chemicals found in the slurry and sludge include the following:

Aniline
Acenaphthene
Acenaphthylene
Anthracene
Benzidine
Benzo(a)anthracene
Benzo(a)pyrene
Benzo(b)fluoranthene
Benzo(g,h,i)perylene
Benzo(k)fluoroanthene
Benzyl alcohol
Bis(2-ethylhexyl)phthalate
Bis(2-chloroethoxy)-methane
Bis(2-chloroethyl)ether
Bis(2-chloroisopropyl)ether
Butyl benzyl phthalate
Chrysene
Dibenzo(a,h)anthracene
Dibenzofuran
Dibutyl phthalate
Diethyl phthalate
Dimethyl phthalate
Dioctylphthalate
Fluoranthene
Fluorene
Hexachlorobenzene
Hexachloroethane
Indeno(1,2,3-cd)pyrene
Isophorone
N-Nitrosodi-n-propylamine
N-Nitrosodiphenylamine
Naphthalene
Nitrobenzene
Phenanthrene
Pyrene
Hexachloro-1,3-butadiene
Hexachloro-1,3-cyclopentadiene
1,2,4-Trichlorobenzene
1,2-Dichlorobenzene
1,3-Dichlorobenzene
1,4-Dichlorobenzene
2,4-Dinitrotoluene
2,6-Dinitrotoluene
2-Chloronaphthalene
2-Methylnaphthalene
2-Nitroaniline
3,3'-Dichlorobenzidine
3-Nitroaniline
4-Bromophenyl phenyl ether
4-Chloroaniline
4-Chlorophenyl phenyl ether
4-Nitroaniline

Or as it is officially known; " a little bit of nothing".
 
2014-02-11 05:15:47 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: Chalji: Don't worry, the free market will fix this.

It would if there was a little incentive called hanging the execs of the company that makes a spill.  The next batch of execs won't cut corners.


YOLO.
 
2014-02-11 05:24:18 PM  

RDixon: Coal slurry contains a large range of constituents, including dissolved minerals that have been leached or washed out of the coal and other rocks. In addition, the slurry contains chemicals added to facilitate the washing or water re-use processes. One of these chemicals is acrylamide. Other chemicals found in the slurry and sludge include the following:

Aniline
[...]
4-Nitroaniline

Or as it is officially known; " a little bit of nothing".


Don't forget Dihydrogen Monoxide, which causes thousands more deaths every year than all of those chemicals combined.
 
2014-02-11 05:29:48 PM  
Headline contains a paradox. DOES...NOT...COMPUTE...!
 
2014-02-11 05:41:18 PM  
Well I hope they have their political payoffs up to date, or they're gonna be in a heap of trouble.
 
2014-02-11 05:41:31 PM  

Rapmaster2000: Before you libs go and impugn the coal slurry job creators, you better sit back and think about what you'd do without all that coal slurry does for you.  You'll be sorry when these hard working coal slurry job creators GO GALT and then there is no place for you to get coal slurry.  Didn't think about that, did you?


I know you're speaking tongue in cheek.  That said:

IN THE debate over climate change, policies to reduce pollution are often seen as detrimental to economic growth. But this need not always be the case. A new paper suggests another measure to curb pollution that may have had beneficial long-term economic impacts for individuals. The paper's authors, Adam Isen, Maya Rossin-Slater and Reed Walker, compared the adult labour-market outcomes of those born in counties in America where air pollution decreased as the result of the 1970 Clean Air Act to those born in areas where pollution did not fall in this period. They found that those who were born in counties that were forced to cut air pollution as a result of the legislation earned more by their thirties than they would have otherwise: gaining approximately $4,300 each in extra income over their lives.
At first, this result may seem a little strange. As dirty industries closed in many affected areas as a result of the Clean Air Act, one would expect incomes to fall as the result of increased unemployment. Yet the authors of the paper found the opposite: the long-term benefits of better childhood health on adult incomes outweighed the other negative immediate economic effects that may have resulted from the legislation.

* "A. Isen, M. Rossin-Slater and R. Walker, "Every breath you take-every dollar you'll make: the long-term consequences of the Clean Air Act of 1970", NBER working paper 19858, January 2014.



From the Economist.  Sometime in the last few weeks, Evernote is being a jerk so I can't give a direct cite.
 
2014-02-11 05:44:27 PM  

Begoggle: It's OK.
White conservatives don't like any government regulation.
It only restricts businesses and prevents jobs!
Also, "pollution" is liberal propaganda.
Obummer hates coal.


What I most love about all the signs I see driving west in PA that talk about Obama's war on clean coal, the fuel of the future?  It's not the regulations that's killing coal right now, it's fracked natural gas.  Cheaper to extract, easier to move, far cleaner to burn.

Coal's not getting killed by regulations.  It's being killed by a superior product.  Free Market in action.
 
2014-02-11 05:44:38 PM  

Magorn: And by  "last time this happened" you mean less than a week ago in NC?"  yep.  At least in WV the Governor isn't an ex-employee of the company doing the spilling, and the DNR didnn;t step in to block environmentalists lawsuits demanding the site be cleaned up before the spill, the way they did in NC.


Still the same outcome though


Yeah.  NC and WV aren't really unique, though.

files.cdn.ecowatch.com

Worth a read.

http://wnca.org/closing-the-floodgates-how-the-coal-industry-is-pois on ing-our-water-and-how-we-can-stop-it/
 
2014-02-11 05:44:56 PM  
Is there a single company related to the coal industry that doesn't have an Orwellian name?
 
2014-02-11 05:51:15 PM  
WTF is up with these companies and their names. Last time it was "Freedom Industries" and this time it's "Patriot Coal."

I'm pretty sure patriotism doesn't include poisoning your fellow countrymen and freedom doesn't mean "dump whatever shiat you want into the water."

Sadly, you can pretty much attach those words to anything and there's a significant portion of the population who will cheer you on, regardless of what you're doing.
 
2014-02-11 06:00:21 PM  
It doesn't matter, subby. Coal is cheap, readily available, and they're going to keep burning it while it stays that way. That said, what's a few acres of uninhabitable land in the grand scheme of things?
 
2014-02-11 06:02:31 PM  

Nana's Vibrator: I prefer this kind of energy biproduct disaster to, say, 100 nuclear reactors simultaneously having meltdowns and releasing radiation into our air and water.  So really, we've lucked out here and everything's OK.


That's a bit silly. A nuclear reactor can meltdown, that is true. But any factory or refinery or pipeline can leak or worst, combust, at any moment. Which would you prefer?

Personally I would go with nuclear because I believe overall they are safer and cleaner. When you have millions of barrels of oil and millions of tons of coal, accidents are pretty much unavoidable just through the sheer volume of the stuff. At least with nukes the volume of nasty shiat is tiny by comparison.
 
2014-02-11 06:15:45 PM  
Regulations? We don' need no steenkin' regulations!!!
www.rudebadmood.com


Seriously... regulations exist because somebody farks up... like these assholes. North Carolina's governor used to work for the energy corporation (Duke - which does indeed suck) that pulled this sh*t, and his administration has stopped lawsuits filed by civilian environmental groups under the Clean Water Act... lawsuits that might have stopped this crap before it happens.

So next time some moron starts bleating about "job-killing regulations" give them a cup of coal ash water, with all the arsenic, lead and heavy metal they can drink.
 
2014-02-11 06:24:18 PM  

Vodka Zombie: Thankfully, they don't need any regulating or oversight.  If they do something wrong, the free market will simply take care of things.  If the water is toxic, people will simply stop buying that water and buy other water.  If the air is toxic, buy different air.

Personally, West Virginia deserves this opportunity to pull themselves up by their bootstraps.


The_Hairy_Gooch: Status quo for WV now-a-days. Nothing is going to change either. That industry is wayyyyyy too entrenched to go anywhere. You would think things like this would piss the normal townsfolk off enough to vote in better environmental regulat.... hahaha yeah I couldn't even finish that sentence, I mean who are we kidding here. Funny how history constantly repeats itself when you don't change anything.


These people are so economically farked in this region that they LITERALLY CANNOT AFFORD to vote for their best health interests.

Either they get black lung and mysterious cancers, or they have absolutely 0 jobs.

There is no free market in this country. There is market slavery.
 
2014-02-11 06:25:45 PM  

MBooda: RDixon: Coal slurry contains a large range of constituents, including dissolved minerals that have been leached or washed out of the coal and other rocks. In addition, the slurry contains chemicals added to facilitate the washing or water re-use processes. One of these chemicals is acrylamide. Other chemicals found in the slurry and sludge include the following:

Aniline
[...]
4-Nitroaniline

Or as it is officially known; " a little bit of nothing".

Don't forget Dihydrogen Monoxide, which causes thousands more deaths every year than all of those chemicals combined.


Which totally means coal slurry is safe to drink.

Dumb fark.
 
2014-02-11 06:44:23 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: MBooda: RDixon: Coal slurry contains a large range of constituents, including dissolved minerals that have been leached or washed out of the coal and other rocks. In addition, the slurry contains chemicals added to facilitate the washing or water re-use processes. One of these chemicals is acrylamide. Other chemicals found in the slurry and sludge include the following:

Aniline
[...]
4-Nitroaniline

Or as it is officially known; " a little bit of nothing".

Don't forget Dihydrogen Monoxide, which causes thousands more deaths every year than all of those chemicals combined.

Which totally means coal slurry is safe to drink.

Dumb fark.


Tell you what. Don't put your words in my mouth and I won't put my "slurry" in yours.

/unless you like the tast
//and I think you do
 
2014-02-11 07:02:25 PM  

rewind2846: Regulations? We don' need no steenkin' regulations!!!
[www.rudebadmood.com image 320x240]


Seriously... regulations exist because somebody farks up... like these assholes. North Carolina's governor used to work for the energy corporation (Duke - which does indeed suck) that pulled this sh*t, and his administration has stopped lawsuits filed by civilian environmental groups under the Clean Water Act... lawsuits that might have stopped this crap before it happens.

So next time some moron starts bleating about "job-killing regulations" give them a cup of coal ash water, with all the arsenic, lead and heavy metal they can drink.


They don't care. It's beyond evident.

Some people have no ethical or moral compass or it's so diluted by their greed it barely exists. Nothing is for the good of people, it's all for the good of their wallet.
 
2014-02-11 07:04:39 PM  
imageshack.com
 
2014-02-11 07:07:20 PM  

toraque: LarryDan43: Smeggy Smurf: Chalji: Don't worry, the free market will fix this.

It would if there was a little incentive called hanging the execs of the company that makes a spill.  The next batch of execs won't cut corners.

And discourage other job creators from job creating?

You guys can laugh, but the reality is that there's a bunch of jobs being created in the hazardous waste cleanup industry.  Business is booming!  And oozing.


I feel horrible, but I laughed at this because I hadn't even thought of it. My dad works in environmental cleanup, been doing it for forever. Gets sent all over but mostly works out of Detroit. Wonder if he'll get sent out for this.

/vac trucks are huge when they're outside your bedroom window
 
2014-02-11 07:13:01 PM  

iheartscotch: Maybe they should, you know, not spill shiat!


Hush, you commie.
 
2014-02-11 07:27:32 PM  

MBooda: Tell you what. Don't put your words in my mouth and I won't put my "slurry" in yours.

/unless you like the tast
//and I think you do


Sorry, I don't swing that way, but good for you for living openly like that.
 
2014-02-11 07:48:35 PM  

Chalji: Don't worry, the free market will fix this.


Give it a shot, look what 13 straight years of Democrat Governors got them.
 
2014-02-11 07:51:42 PM  
I live in WV, my county is called "the birthplace of rivers" because 7 rivers flow out of the county and none flow into it. Luckily we're pretty far from coal country, but there has been some talk of fracking coming soon. The environment is the ONLY good thing about this place, and they want to ruin it.
 
2014-02-11 07:54:50 PM  

Zeb Hesselgresser: Chalji: Don't worry, the free market will fix this.

Give it a shot, look what 13 straight years of Democrat Governors got them.


Yeah, I'm sure people will stop buying this company's...uh...coal slurry because of this.


/the free market does not work.
//obviously
 
2014-02-11 08:29:08 PM  

HindiDiscoMonster: I know who you need to call to prevent this...


All you need is an egg, a styrofoam cup and a microwave oven. I saw it in one of his movies.
 
2014-02-11 09:00:30 PM  

Dog Welder: Remember, according to Ted Cruz we need to invest in more coal production and reduce regulations on the coal industry.


What does he know about xoal production in the US? He's Canadian.
 
2014-02-11 09:43:07 PM  

Cold_Sassy: stevetherobot: Cold_Sassy: Huh, last time it was Freedom Industries, this time it's Patriot Coal.  Go USA.  Pretty soon WV is going to be one big toxic waste dump.  Which is too bad because most of the state has some really beautiful scenery.

Not anymore.

Wha??  I don't think they've razed any mountains yet and the gorge is still there.  Monongahela National Forest is still there...that's very nice.


Isn't razing mountains how they get the coal? Or thatsthejoke.jpg?
 
2014-02-11 09:55:12 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: Yeah, I'm sure people will stop buying this company's...uh...coal slurry because of this.


Most often people's righteous indignation on these types of items pretty much ends when they realize that their addiction to smooth roads, indoor plumbing, electricity is dependent upon industry that can never be 100% risk free.

/not to be construed as indicating that regulations are not needed
 
2014-02-11 10:02:15 PM  

HeadLever: cameroncrazy1984: Yeah, I'm sure people will stop buying this company's...uh...coal slurry because of this.

Most often people's righteous indignation on these types of items pretty much ends when they realize that their addiction to smooth roads, indoor plumbing, electricity is dependent upon industry that can never be 100% risk free.

/not to be construed as indicating that regulations are not needed


It's pretty hard not to. You would fight the activism tooth and nail and claim it's a NIMBY issue. Come on.
 
2014-02-11 10:12:43 PM  

whidbey: You would fight the activism tooth and nail and claim it's a NIMBY issue.


What activism?  That industry take steps not to pollute the water per the CWA and CAA?  Nope, I don't have much of an issue with that.  Care to try again?
 
2014-02-11 10:23:39 PM  

HeadLever: whidbey: You would fight the activism tooth and nail and claim it's a NIMBY issue.

What activism?  That industry take steps not to pollute the water per the CWA and CAA?  Nope, I don't have much of an issue with that.  Care to try again?


I'm talking about getting America off burning coal and you know it.

And you say you don't mind the regulations, but I'm pretty sure you feel that many of the regulations just get in the way of things. Bonus: thanks to meddling hippies.
 
2014-02-11 10:29:06 PM  

whidbey: I'm talking about getting America off burning coal and you know it.


Nope, sorry left my crystal ball at work.

And you say you don't mind the regulations, but I'm pretty sure you feel that many of the regulations just get in the way of things. Bonus: thanks to meddling hippies.

Some do, but some are needed.  As anyone with more than two brain cells to rub together knows, there needs to be a balance between the two.  Sometimes the hippies don't understand that.  Sometimes it is the industry that doesn't.
 
2014-02-12 12:51:00 AM  
A low level employee will lose their job for this!
 
2014-02-12 01:07:30 AM  

rwdavis: A low level employee will lose their job for this!


Which is why America will never have nice things.
 
2014-02-12 01:17:03 AM  
When are those fools going to get arrested for terrorism?
 
2014-02-12 02:28:11 AM  

JerkStore: WTF is up with these companies and their names. Last time it was "Freedom Industries" and this time it's "Patriot Coal."

I'm pretty sure patriotism doesn't include poisoning your fellow countrymen and freedom doesn't mean "dump whatever shiat you want into the water."

Sadly, you can pretty much attach those words to anything and there's a significant portion of the population who will cheer you on, regardless of what you're doing.


Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel!
                                                                       --Shia LaBeouf
 
2014-02-12 08:44:32 AM  

rwdavis: A low level employee will lose their job for this!


For a valve breaking?  From the indications in this story this appears to be an issue with a valve and a sensor.  Now if these items have been broke for a while and the company knew, then that may be grounds for a hefty fine.

Bucky Katt: When are those fools going to get arrested for terrorism?


For a valve breaking?  I imagine that this will be considered terrorism soon after a speeding ticket becomes a felony.
 
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