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(Charleston Gazette)   A coal preparation facility has spilled an unknown quantity of coal slurry into a creek, polluting the water, in West Virginia. This is not a repeat from the last time this happened   (wvgazette.com) divider line 137
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2014-02-11 05:14:26 PM  
Coal slurry contains a large range of constituents, including dissolved minerals that have been leached or washed out of the coal and other rocks. In addition, the slurry contains chemicals added to facilitate the washing or water re-use processes. One of these chemicals is acrylamide. Other chemicals found in the slurry and sludge include the following:

Aniline
Acenaphthene
Acenaphthylene
Anthracene
Benzidine
Benzo(a)anthracene
Benzo(a)pyrene
Benzo(b)fluoranthene
Benzo(g,h,i)perylene
Benzo(k)fluoroanthene
Benzyl alcohol
Bis(2-ethylhexyl)phthalate
Bis(2-chloroethoxy)-methane
Bis(2-chloroethyl)ether
Bis(2-chloroisopropyl)ether
Butyl benzyl phthalate
Chrysene
Dibenzo(a,h)anthracene
Dibenzofuran
Dibutyl phthalate
Diethyl phthalate
Dimethyl phthalate
Dioctylphthalate
Fluoranthene
Fluorene
Hexachlorobenzene
Hexachloroethane
Indeno(1,2,3-cd)pyrene
Isophorone
N-Nitrosodi-n-propylamine
N-Nitrosodiphenylamine
Naphthalene
Nitrobenzene
Phenanthrene
Pyrene
Hexachloro-1,3-butadiene
Hexachloro-1,3-cyclopentadiene
1,2,4-Trichlorobenzene
1,2-Dichlorobenzene
1,3-Dichlorobenzene
1,4-Dichlorobenzene
2,4-Dinitrotoluene
2,6-Dinitrotoluene
2-Chloronaphthalene
2-Methylnaphthalene
2-Nitroaniline
3,3'-Dichlorobenzidine
3-Nitroaniline
4-Bromophenyl phenyl ether
4-Chloroaniline
4-Chlorophenyl phenyl ether
4-Nitroaniline

Or as it is officially known; " a little bit of nothing".
 
2014-02-11 05:15:47 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: Chalji: Don't worry, the free market will fix this.

It would if there was a little incentive called hanging the execs of the company that makes a spill.  The next batch of execs won't cut corners.


YOLO.
 
2014-02-11 05:24:18 PM  

RDixon: Coal slurry contains a large range of constituents, including dissolved minerals that have been leached or washed out of the coal and other rocks. In addition, the slurry contains chemicals added to facilitate the washing or water re-use processes. One of these chemicals is acrylamide. Other chemicals found in the slurry and sludge include the following:

Aniline
[...]
4-Nitroaniline

Or as it is officially known; " a little bit of nothing".


Don't forget Dihydrogen Monoxide, which causes thousands more deaths every year than all of those chemicals combined.
 
2014-02-11 05:29:48 PM  
Headline contains a paradox. DOES...NOT...COMPUTE...!
 
2014-02-11 05:41:18 PM  
Well I hope they have their political payoffs up to date, or they're gonna be in a heap of trouble.
 
2014-02-11 05:41:31 PM  

Rapmaster2000: Before you libs go and impugn the coal slurry job creators, you better sit back and think about what you'd do without all that coal slurry does for you.  You'll be sorry when these hard working coal slurry job creators GO GALT and then there is no place for you to get coal slurry.  Didn't think about that, did you?


I know you're speaking tongue in cheek.  That said:

IN THE debate over climate change, policies to reduce pollution are often seen as detrimental to economic growth. But this need not always be the case. A new paper suggests another measure to curb pollution that may have had beneficial long-term economic impacts for individuals. The paper's authors, Adam Isen, Maya Rossin-Slater and Reed Walker, compared the adult labour-market outcomes of those born in counties in America where air pollution decreased as the result of the 1970 Clean Air Act to those born in areas where pollution did not fall in this period. They found that those who were born in counties that were forced to cut air pollution as a result of the legislation earned more by their thirties than they would have otherwise: gaining approximately $4,300 each in extra income over their lives.
At first, this result may seem a little strange. As dirty industries closed in many affected areas as a result of the Clean Air Act, one would expect incomes to fall as the result of increased unemployment. Yet the authors of the paper found the opposite: the long-term benefits of better childhood health on adult incomes outweighed the other negative immediate economic effects that may have resulted from the legislation.

* "A. Isen, M. Rossin-Slater and R. Walker, "Every breath you take-every dollar you'll make: the long-term consequences of the Clean Air Act of 1970", NBER working paper 19858, January 2014.



From the Economist.  Sometime in the last few weeks, Evernote is being a jerk so I can't give a direct cite.
 
2014-02-11 05:44:27 PM  

Begoggle: It's OK.
White conservatives don't like any government regulation.
It only restricts businesses and prevents jobs!
Also, "pollution" is liberal propaganda.
Obummer hates coal.


What I most love about all the signs I see driving west in PA that talk about Obama's war on clean coal, the fuel of the future?  It's not the regulations that's killing coal right now, it's fracked natural gas.  Cheaper to extract, easier to move, far cleaner to burn.

Coal's not getting killed by regulations.  It's being killed by a superior product.  Free Market in action.
 
2014-02-11 05:44:38 PM  

Magorn: And by  "last time this happened" you mean less than a week ago in NC?"  yep.  At least in WV the Governor isn't an ex-employee of the company doing the spilling, and the DNR didnn;t step in to block environmentalists lawsuits demanding the site be cleaned up before the spill, the way they did in NC.


Still the same outcome though


Yeah.  NC and WV aren't really unique, though.

files.cdn.ecowatch.com

Worth a read.

http://wnca.org/closing-the-floodgates-how-the-coal-industry-is-pois on ing-our-water-and-how-we-can-stop-it/
 
2014-02-11 05:44:56 PM  
Is there a single company related to the coal industry that doesn't have an Orwellian name?
 
2014-02-11 05:51:15 PM  
WTF is up with these companies and their names. Last time it was "Freedom Industries" and this time it's "Patriot Coal."

I'm pretty sure patriotism doesn't include poisoning your fellow countrymen and freedom doesn't mean "dump whatever shiat you want into the water."

Sadly, you can pretty much attach those words to anything and there's a significant portion of the population who will cheer you on, regardless of what you're doing.
 
2014-02-11 06:00:21 PM  
It doesn't matter, subby. Coal is cheap, readily available, and they're going to keep burning it while it stays that way. That said, what's a few acres of uninhabitable land in the grand scheme of things?
 
2014-02-11 06:02:31 PM  

Nana's Vibrator: I prefer this kind of energy biproduct disaster to, say, 100 nuclear reactors simultaneously having meltdowns and releasing radiation into our air and water.  So really, we've lucked out here and everything's OK.


That's a bit silly. A nuclear reactor can meltdown, that is true. But any factory or refinery or pipeline can leak or worst, combust, at any moment. Which would you prefer?

Personally I would go with nuclear because I believe overall they are safer and cleaner. When you have millions of barrels of oil and millions of tons of coal, accidents are pretty much unavoidable just through the sheer volume of the stuff. At least with nukes the volume of nasty shiat is tiny by comparison.
 
2014-02-11 06:15:45 PM  
Regulations? We don' need no steenkin' regulations!!!
www.rudebadmood.com


Seriously... regulations exist because somebody farks up... like these assholes. North Carolina's governor used to work for the energy corporation (Duke - which does indeed suck) that pulled this sh*t, and his administration has stopped lawsuits filed by civilian environmental groups under the Clean Water Act... lawsuits that might have stopped this crap before it happens.

So next time some moron starts bleating about "job-killing regulations" give them a cup of coal ash water, with all the arsenic, lead and heavy metal they can drink.
 
2014-02-11 06:24:18 PM  

Vodka Zombie: Thankfully, they don't need any regulating or oversight.  If they do something wrong, the free market will simply take care of things.  If the water is toxic, people will simply stop buying that water and buy other water.  If the air is toxic, buy different air.

Personally, West Virginia deserves this opportunity to pull themselves up by their bootstraps.


The_Hairy_Gooch: Status quo for WV now-a-days. Nothing is going to change either. That industry is wayyyyyy too entrenched to go anywhere. You would think things like this would piss the normal townsfolk off enough to vote in better environmental regulat.... hahaha yeah I couldn't even finish that sentence, I mean who are we kidding here. Funny how history constantly repeats itself when you don't change anything.


These people are so economically farked in this region that they LITERALLY CANNOT AFFORD to vote for their best health interests.

Either they get black lung and mysterious cancers, or they have absolutely 0 jobs.

There is no free market in this country. There is market slavery.
 
2014-02-11 06:25:45 PM  

MBooda: RDixon: Coal slurry contains a large range of constituents, including dissolved minerals that have been leached or washed out of the coal and other rocks. In addition, the slurry contains chemicals added to facilitate the washing or water re-use processes. One of these chemicals is acrylamide. Other chemicals found in the slurry and sludge include the following:

Aniline
[...]
4-Nitroaniline

Or as it is officially known; " a little bit of nothing".

Don't forget Dihydrogen Monoxide, which causes thousands more deaths every year than all of those chemicals combined.


Which totally means coal slurry is safe to drink.

Dumb fark.
 
2014-02-11 06:44:23 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: MBooda: RDixon: Coal slurry contains a large range of constituents, including dissolved minerals that have been leached or washed out of the coal and other rocks. In addition, the slurry contains chemicals added to facilitate the washing or water re-use processes. One of these chemicals is acrylamide. Other chemicals found in the slurry and sludge include the following:

Aniline
[...]
4-Nitroaniline

Or as it is officially known; " a little bit of nothing".

Don't forget Dihydrogen Monoxide, which causes thousands more deaths every year than all of those chemicals combined.

Which totally means coal slurry is safe to drink.

Dumb fark.


Tell you what. Don't put your words in my mouth and I won't put my "slurry" in yours.

/unless you like the tast
//and I think you do
 
2014-02-11 07:02:25 PM  

rewind2846: Regulations? We don' need no steenkin' regulations!!!
[www.rudebadmood.com image 320x240]


Seriously... regulations exist because somebody farks up... like these assholes. North Carolina's governor used to work for the energy corporation (Duke - which does indeed suck) that pulled this sh*t, and his administration has stopped lawsuits filed by civilian environmental groups under the Clean Water Act... lawsuits that might have stopped this crap before it happens.

So next time some moron starts bleating about "job-killing regulations" give them a cup of coal ash water, with all the arsenic, lead and heavy metal they can drink.


They don't care. It's beyond evident.

Some people have no ethical or moral compass or it's so diluted by their greed it barely exists. Nothing is for the good of people, it's all for the good of their wallet.
 
2014-02-11 07:04:39 PM  
imageshack.com
 
2014-02-11 07:07:20 PM  

toraque: LarryDan43: Smeggy Smurf: Chalji: Don't worry, the free market will fix this.

It would if there was a little incentive called hanging the execs of the company that makes a spill.  The next batch of execs won't cut corners.

And discourage other job creators from job creating?

You guys can laugh, but the reality is that there's a bunch of jobs being created in the hazardous waste cleanup industry.  Business is booming!  And oozing.


I feel horrible, but I laughed at this because I hadn't even thought of it. My dad works in environmental cleanup, been doing it for forever. Gets sent all over but mostly works out of Detroit. Wonder if he'll get sent out for this.

/vac trucks are huge when they're outside your bedroom window
 
2014-02-11 07:13:01 PM  

iheartscotch: Maybe they should, you know, not spill shiat!


Hush, you commie.
 
2014-02-11 07:27:32 PM  

MBooda: Tell you what. Don't put your words in my mouth and I won't put my "slurry" in yours.

/unless you like the tast
//and I think you do


Sorry, I don't swing that way, but good for you for living openly like that.
 
2014-02-11 07:48:35 PM  

Chalji: Don't worry, the free market will fix this.


Give it a shot, look what 13 straight years of Democrat Governors got them.
 
2014-02-11 07:51:42 PM  
I live in WV, my county is called "the birthplace of rivers" because 7 rivers flow out of the county and none flow into it. Luckily we're pretty far from coal country, but there has been some talk of fracking coming soon. The environment is the ONLY good thing about this place, and they want to ruin it.
 
2014-02-11 07:54:50 PM  

Zeb Hesselgresser: Chalji: Don't worry, the free market will fix this.

Give it a shot, look what 13 straight years of Democrat Governors got them.


Yeah, I'm sure people will stop buying this company's...uh...coal slurry because of this.


/the free market does not work.
//obviously
 
2014-02-11 08:29:08 PM  

HindiDiscoMonster: I know who you need to call to prevent this...


All you need is an egg, a styrofoam cup and a microwave oven. I saw it in one of his movies.
 
2014-02-11 09:00:30 PM  

Dog Welder: Remember, according to Ted Cruz we need to invest in more coal production and reduce regulations on the coal industry.


What does he know about xoal production in the US? He's Canadian.
 
2014-02-11 09:43:07 PM  

Cold_Sassy: stevetherobot: Cold_Sassy: Huh, last time it was Freedom Industries, this time it's Patriot Coal.  Go USA.  Pretty soon WV is going to be one big toxic waste dump.  Which is too bad because most of the state has some really beautiful scenery.

Not anymore.

Wha??  I don't think they've razed any mountains yet and the gorge is still there.  Monongahela National Forest is still there...that's very nice.


Isn't razing mountains how they get the coal? Or thatsthejoke.jpg?
 
2014-02-11 09:55:12 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: Yeah, I'm sure people will stop buying this company's...uh...coal slurry because of this.


Most often people's righteous indignation on these types of items pretty much ends when they realize that their addiction to smooth roads, indoor plumbing, electricity is dependent upon industry that can never be 100% risk free.

/not to be construed as indicating that regulations are not needed
 
2014-02-11 10:02:15 PM  

HeadLever: cameroncrazy1984: Yeah, I'm sure people will stop buying this company's...uh...coal slurry because of this.

Most often people's righteous indignation on these types of items pretty much ends when they realize that their addiction to smooth roads, indoor plumbing, electricity is dependent upon industry that can never be 100% risk free.

/not to be construed as indicating that regulations are not needed


It's pretty hard not to. You would fight the activism tooth and nail and claim it's a NIMBY issue. Come on.
 
2014-02-11 10:12:43 PM  

whidbey: You would fight the activism tooth and nail and claim it's a NIMBY issue.


What activism?  That industry take steps not to pollute the water per the CWA and CAA?  Nope, I don't have much of an issue with that.  Care to try again?
 
2014-02-11 10:23:39 PM  

HeadLever: whidbey: You would fight the activism tooth and nail and claim it's a NIMBY issue.

What activism?  That industry take steps not to pollute the water per the CWA and CAA?  Nope, I don't have much of an issue with that.  Care to try again?


I'm talking about getting America off burning coal and you know it.

And you say you don't mind the regulations, but I'm pretty sure you feel that many of the regulations just get in the way of things. Bonus: thanks to meddling hippies.
 
2014-02-11 10:29:06 PM  

whidbey: I'm talking about getting America off burning coal and you know it.


Nope, sorry left my crystal ball at work.

And you say you don't mind the regulations, but I'm pretty sure you feel that many of the regulations just get in the way of things. Bonus: thanks to meddling hippies.

Some do, but some are needed.  As anyone with more than two brain cells to rub together knows, there needs to be a balance between the two.  Sometimes the hippies don't understand that.  Sometimes it is the industry that doesn't.
 
2014-02-12 12:51:00 AM  
A low level employee will lose their job for this!
 
2014-02-12 01:07:30 AM  

rwdavis: A low level employee will lose their job for this!


Which is why America will never have nice things.
 
2014-02-12 01:17:03 AM  
When are those fools going to get arrested for terrorism?
 
2014-02-12 02:28:11 AM  

JerkStore: WTF is up with these companies and their names. Last time it was "Freedom Industries" and this time it's "Patriot Coal."

I'm pretty sure patriotism doesn't include poisoning your fellow countrymen and freedom doesn't mean "dump whatever shiat you want into the water."

Sadly, you can pretty much attach those words to anything and there's a significant portion of the population who will cheer you on, regardless of what you're doing.


Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel!
                                                                       --Shia LaBeouf
 
2014-02-12 08:44:32 AM  

rwdavis: A low level employee will lose their job for this!


For a valve breaking?  From the indications in this story this appears to be an issue with a valve and a sensor.  Now if these items have been broke for a while and the company knew, then that may be grounds for a hefty fine.

Bucky Katt: When are those fools going to get arrested for terrorism?


For a valve breaking?  I imagine that this will be considered terrorism soon after a speeding ticket becomes a felony.
 
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