flondrix: A Cave Geek: Marriage is a legal contract. Even a minister, priest or Shaman needs a license from the state to perform a valid marriage.Hmmm, not quite. In some states anyone with a congregation can call themselves a "minister" and perform marriages weddings.
A Cave Geek: DarwiOdrade: A Cave Geek: Gay righs advocates are trying to 'redefine marriage' in the same way that we 'redefined voting' when we allowed African Americans to vote.And women - can't forget suffrage.Definitely. Same way we 're-defined' marriage when mixed race marriages were legalized. Oh, and what about outlawing slavery? Were we 'redefining' freedom? Oh, and what about the Japanese, after WWII? Perhaps we 'redefined' religious freedom when we recognized non-christian religions for the first time?
flondrix: So, a church can refuse to marry same sex couples, or interracial couples, or people from another denomination, etc. on religious grounds. But those Vegas chapels where you can get married by an Elvis impersonator are businesses; will they be required to marry any couple who has the money to pay the fee?
DarwiOdrade: A Cave Geek: Gay righs advocates are trying to 'redefine marriage' in the same way that we 'redefined voting' when we allowed African Americans to vote.And women - can't forget suffrage.
A Cave Geek: Gay righs advocates are trying to 'redefine marriage' in the same way that we 'redefined voting' when we allowed African Americans to vote.
scottydoesntknow: I would think the equality bans are much more comparable to what white supremacists wanted than those who want marriage equality.
Serious Black: scottydoesntknow: There are also defendant-intervenors in the case, the Coalition for the Protection of Marriage, who argued in their brief that marriage equality was comparable to white supremacy.LOLWUT?!I even tried reading the link and it doesn't make sense. How is it, in any way, comparable to white supremacy?They basically argued that marriage has been naturally defined as a man and a woman, and the anti-miscegenation laws prevented some male-female couples from getting married in defiance of that natural law. Marriage equality laws are similarly in defiance of that natural law by allowing men to marry men and women to marry women.
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