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(KNBC 4 Los Angeles)   Dropping a cigarette butt in Los Angeles? Yeah, that's a genital tasering   (nbclosangeles.com) divider line 147
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2014-02-11 07:54:55 AM
using a Taser on his genitals while his mother watched

www.cobraisland.com
 
2014-02-11 08:07:44 AM

Sybarite: using a Taser on his genitals while his mother watched

[www.cobraisland.com image 320x240]


twilight.ponychan.net
 
2014-02-11 08:16:40 AM
Pigs.
 
2014-02-11 08:17:46 AM
I believe that's known as the Electric Cowboy.
 
2014-02-11 08:24:32 AM
fta "He's looking directly at me every time he pulls that trigger, and at one point my son says, 'Mom, I'm OK," Johnson's mother, Rose Gonzales, told NBC4. "So at that point, I realize this guy is doing this because I am reacting."

Oh man if there is ever a mom just STFU moment thats it.
 
2014-02-11 08:25:18 AM
"LA County Sheriff's Department officials would not comment on the case except to describe one of the deputies in question as "the best deputy in the division."

I think we've found your problem.
 
2014-02-11 08:28:45 AM
Stay classy, Los Angeles cops...
 
DAR [TotalFark]
2014-02-11 08:52:54 AM
The mother should have used her cell phone to record the encounter.  Video tends to keep cops from becoming assholes.

Which reminds me, I still need to work on getting my cell phone to drop video directly to a remote server as cops now days are being trained to grab cell phones.........k/dar
 
2014-02-11 09:00:30 AM
A good friend of mine would probably pay for that sort of treatment
 
2014-02-11 09:01:03 AM
Damn, Rob Reiner's really stepping his game up
 
2014-02-11 09:01:13 AM
such a sad story, reading the helplessness of the family while these cops just beat on them is terrible.
 
2014-02-11 09:01:31 AM
Don't object to people smoking, but those cigarette filters that people drop on the street?  Yeah, those take up to 12 years to bio-degrade, so put your cigarette butts in the trash can, lazy butthead.

/not worth a tasering, however
//just a swift kick in the butt
 
2014-02-11 09:01:48 AM
Coincidentally, Genital Tasering is the name of my Creed tribute band.
 
2014-02-11 09:01:55 AM
Liberal Utopia

// result of the state saying cops can gun down anyone at any time for any reason, 'cause they're nervous.
 
2014-02-11 09:01:58 AM
I'm cool with that.

/drtfa
 
2014-02-11 09:02:51 AM
Another isolated incident!! Too bad you'd never win a claim of self defense against these asshole cops.
 
2014-02-11 09:03:18 AM
mofak da po po
 
2014-02-11 09:05:39 AM

Therion: "LA County Sheriff's Department officials would not comment on the case except to describe one of the deputies in question as "the best deputy in the division."

I think we've found your problem.


Best damn deputy in the division.  Got the highest marks in genital taser training.  Always remembers to yell "Stop Resisting!!!" when abusing his power and beating on a minority.
 
2014-02-11 09:06:28 AM
Hehe. Johnson.
 
2014-02-11 09:07:19 AM
Right in the nuts! That was beautiful! Well done! Giver her a hand, everybody. Good job! Well done! Good job! That was great!

 www.imfdb.org
 
2014-02-11 09:08:11 AM

Farce-Side: Therion: "LA County Sheriff's Department officials would not comment on the case except to describe one of the deputies in question as "the best deputy in the division."

I think we've found your problem.

Best damn deputy in the division.  Got the highest marks in genital taser training.  Always remembers to yell "Stop Resisting!!!" when abusing his power and beating on a minority.


That only happens if you don't respect his authori-TIE.
 
2014-02-11 09:08:56 AM
All righty then...I read the article and all I can say is...sear the cop with a cattle brand several times on his taint while "Ode to Joy" is played.

Sounds about right, doesn't it?
 
2014-02-11 09:11:16 AM

ElPresidente: Don't object to people smoking, but those cigarette filters that people drop on the street?  Yeah, those take up to 12 years to bio-degrade, so put your cigarette butts in the trash can, lazy butthead.

/not worth a tasering, however
//just a swift kick in the butt


How long until those filters have a little bar code on them, enabling them to be "recycled" for 5 cents a piece (like soda/beer cans in some of our better states)?
 
2014-02-11 09:11:53 AM

DAR: The mother should have used her cell phone to record the encounter.  Video tends to keep cops from becoming assholes.

Which reminds me, I still need to work on getting my cell phone to drop video directly to a remote server as cops now days are being trained to grab cell phones.........k/dar

www.pri.org

Hero!
 
2014-02-11 09:12:58 AM
FTFA: "When there's nothing to verify what actually happened, it becomes a state where it's their word versus ours," Johnson said.

That is usually where you are wasting your time unless if you have something else on the cop.
 
2014-02-11 09:13:02 AM
I wonder how many days of vacation the officers will lose once the internal investigation is complete.
 
2014-02-11 09:15:42 AM

DAR: The mother should have used her cell phone to record the encounter.  Video tends to keep cops from becoming assholes.


Yeah, no. It tends to get the person doing the filming arrested, too, and charged with violating wiretapping laws.

Yah, really.

http://www.alternet.org/story/151806/15_years_in_prison_for_taping_t he _cops_how_eavesdropping_laws_are_taking_away_our_best_defense_against_ police_brutality
http://photographyisnotacrime.com/2013/11/14/boston-police-arrest-st ud ent-wiretapping-charges-video-recording/
 
2014-02-11 09:16:24 AM
static.prisonplanet.com
 
2014-02-11 09:17:53 AM
Good
 
2014-02-11 09:23:17 AM

gweilo8888: DAR: The mother should have used her cell phone to record the encounter.  Video tends to keep cops from becoming assholes.

Yeah, no. It tends to get the person doing the filming arrested, too, and charged with violating wiretapping laws.

Yah, really.

http://www.alternet.org/story/151806/15_years_in_prison_for_taping_t he _cops_how_eavesdropping_laws_are_taking_away_our_best_defense_against_ police_brutality
http://photographyisnotacrime.com/2013/11/14/boston-police-arrest-st ud ent-wiretapping-charges-video-recording/


That doesn't always work out so well for the officer.
 
2014-02-11 09:24:30 AM
Another cop with a deep seeded inferiority complex on a power trip because some guy wouldn't obey his commands. Another day in LA.
 
2014-02-11 09:26:55 AM
If cops are going to argue that they have an expectation of privacy in a clearly public place, then I'm going to counter that all dashcam and other surveillance footage recorded by cops be thrown out for exactly the same reason.
 
2014-02-11 09:28:22 AM
img.fark.net

Evil Mister Rodgers approves of these shenanigans.
 
2014-02-11 09:30:41 AM
If you come down hard on perpetrators, they will not re-offend.

This guy will think long and hard about littering again.
 
2014-02-11 09:31:26 AM
Aside from the repugnant behavior of the cops in question, there are a couple of things wrong with this story:

1.  This man's nerve damage notwithstanding, smokers don't drop cigarette butts on the ground "by accident".  99.9% of them are serial litterbugs.

2.  Genital tasering is a perfectly cromulent punishment for any act of littering, especially a smoker throwing a butt on the ground.
 
2014-02-11 09:31:46 AM
I wonder if he still smokes cigarettes.
 
2014-02-11 09:31:57 AM
Did he at least pick up the can?
 
2014-02-11 09:33:15 AM

CheekyMonkey: Aside from the repugnant behavior of the cops in question, there are a couple of things wrong with this story:

1.  This man's nerve damage notwithstanding, smokers don't drop cigarette butts on the ground "by accident".  99.9% of them are serial litterbugs.

2.  Genital tasering is a perfectly cromulent punishment for any act of littering, especially a smoker throwing a butt on the ground.


The guy who got the nut tasering isn't the one who was smoking.
 
2014-02-11 09:34:47 AM

jfivealive: CheekyMonkey: Aside from the repugnant behavior of the cops in question, there are a couple of things wrong with this story:

1.  This man's nerve damage notwithstanding, smokers don't drop cigarette butts on the ground "by accident".  99.9% of them are serial litterbugs.

2.  Genital tasering is a perfectly cromulent punishment for any act of littering, especially a smoker throwing a butt on the ground.

The guy who got the nut tasering isn't the one who was smoking.


Who knows, if you can get second hand smoke problems, maybe you can get second hand shock therapy as well.
 
2014-02-11 09:36:02 AM
Cigarette butts are gross.  A tasering for dropping a cigarette butt seems fair to me.
 
2014-02-11 09:36:17 AM

Queensowntalia: That doesn't always work out so well for the officer.


Even if it doesn't work out for the officer, you've probably already had your phone confiscated or destroyed, and spent god only knows how much in court.

And it's not even just video that's the problem. There have been plenty of reports of people getting in trouble for merely taking stills of the cops -- even accredited photojournalists.
 
2014-02-11 09:41:44 AM

gweilo8888: Queensowntalia: That doesn't always work out so well for the officer.

Even if it doesn't work out for the officer, you've probably already had your phone confiscated or destroyed, and spent god only knows how much in court.

And it's not even just video that's the problem. There have been plenty of reports of people getting in trouble for merely taking stills of the cops -- even accredited photojournalists.


In Seattle a cop with a history of being a reactionary dickhead did mess with a journalist and did get fired over it. Sort of a perfect storm of sh*t for Officer Saudet. Someone linked it up see The Stranger if you're curious, they will be promoting it for years since the journalist is their politics editor.
 
2014-02-11 09:46:26 AM

Queensowntalia: Coincidentally, Genital Tasering is the name of my Creed tribute band.


/score
 
2014-02-11 09:50:48 AM

DAR: The mother should have used her cell phone to record the encounter.  Video tends to keep cops from becoming assholes.


Actually, (from anecdotal evidence),  when you document their behavior, it turns them into assholes.
 
2014-02-11 09:51:29 AM

gweilo8888: DAR: The mother should have used her cell phone to record the encounter.  Video tends to keep cops from becoming assholes.

Yeah, no. It tends to get the person doing the filming arrested, too, and charged with violating wiretapping laws.

Yah, really.

http://www.alternet.org/story/151806/15_years_in_prison_for_taping_t he _cops_how_eavesdropping_laws_are_taking_away_our_best_defense_against_ police_brutality
http://photographyisnotacrime.com/2013/11/14/boston-police-arrest-st ud ent-wiretapping-charges-video-recording/


Didn't I just hear a news story about this photo surveillance system that's now being used here?  Where they just go to archives and track a vehicle used in a crime back to its point of origin?

So it's OK for the authorities to use video surveillance but if a citizen films an officer beating the crap outta somebody that's wiretapping...?

/yeah, makes perfect sense
 
2014-02-11 09:54:25 AM

EdgeRunner: [img.fark.net image 500x333]

Evil Mister Rodgers approves of these shenanigans.


BE WELL!
 
2014-02-11 09:54:38 AM

ristst: gweilo8888: DAR: The mother should have used her cell phone to record the encounter.  Video tends to keep cops from becoming assholes.

Yeah, no. It tends to get the person doing the filming arrested, too, and charged with violating wiretapping laws.

Yah, really.

http://www.alternet.org/story/151806/15_years_in_prison_for_taping_t he _cops_how_eavesdropping_laws_are_taking_away_our_best_defense_against_ police_brutality
http://photographyisnotacrime.com/2013/11/14/boston-police-arrest-st ud ent-wiretapping-charges-video-recording/

Didn't I just hear a news story about this photo surveillance system that's now being used here?  Where they just go to archives and track a vehicle used in a crime back to its point of origin?

So it's OK for the authorities to use video surveillance but if a citizen films an officer beating the crap outta somebody that's wiretapping...?

/yeah, makes perfect sense


My town just announced the police want to start using Google Glass to help identify people on the street. The lines are really getting blurry here.
 
2014-02-11 09:55:48 AM
I don't know what's more shocking, the feeling of 10,000 volts to the genitals or the fact that I'm no longer remotely surprised by stories of police officers behaving this way.
 
2014-02-11 09:56:59 AM

pkellmey: jfivealive: CheekyMonkey: Aside from the repugnant behavior of the cops in question, there are a couple of things wrong with this story:

1.  This man's nerve damage notwithstanding, smokers don't drop cigarette butts on the ground "by accident".  99.9% of them are serial litterbugs.

2.  Genital tasering is a perfectly cromulent punishment for any act of littering, especially a smoker throwing a butt on the ground.

The guy who got the nut tasering isn't the one who was smoking.

Who knows, if you can get second hand smoke problems, maybe you can get second hand shock therapy as well.


Maybe it'll get dad to FINALLY quit smoking, now that he sees that it gets his son tased in the nutsack.
/Cops are still assholes, though...
 
2014-02-11 09:58:08 AM

miss diminutive: I don't know what's more shocking, the feeling of 10,000 volts to the genitals or the fact that I'm no longer remotely surprised by stories of police officers behaving this way.


Hey, some people pay good money to have the feeling of 10,000 volts through their good-time parts...
 
2014-02-11 09:58:58 AM
pkellmey:

My town just announced the police want to start using Google Glass to help identify people on the street. The lines are really getting blurry here.

Another reason to hate google.  Who needs just any random cop knowing who you are at a glance and what your web surfing habits are? OH I'm sorry, I'm making a complaint from the future in the previous sentence.

BTW, you better believe that's exactly what we're heading towards.

Anyone wearing google glass is a non person to me.
 
2014-02-11 10:00:40 AM
People are going to start fighting back.
 
2014-02-11 10:01:55 AM
Hate littering smokers.
 
2014-02-11 10:03:01 AM

whosits_112: miss diminutive: I don't know what's more shocking, the feeling of 10,000 volts to the genitals or the fact that I'm no longer remotely surprised by stories of police officers behaving this way.

Hey, some people pay good money to have the feeling of 10,000 volts through their good-time parts...


cdn.mos.totalfilm.com

Positively shocking.
 
2014-02-11 10:03:11 AM
My wife, who doesn't know I smoke, recently found my clandestine cigarette cup....
 
2014-02-11 10:07:34 AM
076dd0a50e0c1255009e-bd4b8aabaca29897bc751dfaf75b290c.r40.cf1.rackcdn.com

But were they were tasin' on his butthole, over and over?
 
2014-02-11 10:07:53 AM

rnatalie: Right in the nuts! That was beautiful! Well done! Giver her a hand, everybody. Good job! Well done! Good job! That was great!

 [www.imfdb.org image 600x251]


The Girl: "That was fun!  Can I do another one?

The Cop:  "Sure, honey!  Joe, get that litterbug in here."

The Girl: "Oh, a litterbug!  They're the worst!  I'm going to make him crawl."

The Cop: "Have you ever considered a career in law enforcement?"
 
2014-02-11 10:12:37 AM

FarkedOver: My wife, who doesn't know I smoke, recently found my clandestine cigarette cup....


Not to be mean, but, is she a bit slow? I mean, how could she not know? The smell of cigarettes cling like bad BO.
 
2014-02-11 10:13:53 AM

FarkedOver: My wife, who doesn't know I smoke, recently found my clandestine cigarette cup....


Does she not posses a sense of smell?
 
2014-02-11 10:15:21 AM

misanthropic1: FarkedOver: My wife, who doesn't know I smoke, recently found my clandestine cigarette cup....

Does she not posses a sense of smell?


Ah, maybe that's what I missed. Due to a freak accident as a young girl, she has no sense of smell! Therefore, FarkedOver found the perfect wife. He can continue his habit in secret, and not have her biatch at him. Until she found his butt-cup, that is...
 
2014-02-11 10:15:51 AM
His side of the story sounds pretty plausible.

Citizen: "Can I pick up that cigarette?"
Officer: *FULLNELSON*
 
2014-02-11 10:17:56 AM
LA Sheriff's "Deputy Abdulfattah," as named in the complaint .....

Moozlums......Sharia Law.......everybody panic!

/obvious alias
//is obvious.
 
2014-02-11 10:19:45 AM

OnlyM3: Liberal Utopia

// result of the state saying cops can gun down anyone at any time for any reason, 'cause they're nervous.


The "liberals" are the ones calling for a police state?

Wow you aren't very good at this whole troll thing are you?
 
2014-02-11 10:20:24 AM

misanthropic1: FarkedOver: My wife, who doesn't know I smoke, recently found my clandestine cigarette cup....

Does she not posses a sense of smell?


Some women, as they get older, seem to lose their sense of smell.  My MIL and her sister both have this problem.
 
2014-02-11 10:21:12 AM

lyndsayj: [076dd0a50e0c1255009e-bd4b8aabaca29897bc751dfaf75b290c.r40.cf1.rackcd n .com image 425x238]

But were they were tasin' on his butthole, over and over?


He shouldn't have thrown it on the ground.
 
2014-02-11 10:23:57 AM
Years ago at my old job they put those cigarette butt tubes outside where I was working. The aholes still flicked them where they wanted to. When they wanted people to clean up the parking lot and common areas of butts they tried to get me into the group to do it. The manager that was forming the group for some reason was getting mostly non smokers to do it. He and I got into it and I told him to get the fark out of my work area and if he had a problem with anything he could talk to my manager. I also told him that it should be him and his smoker buddies cleaning it up. A VP of the company got involved and had only smokers make up the group. That manager always gave me dirty looks after that but couldnt tell me to do shiat.
 
2014-02-11 10:24:36 AM
What a police officer may look like:

i62.tinypic.com
 
2014-02-11 10:27:34 AM

groppet: Years ago at my old job they put those cigarette butt tubes outside where I was working. The aholes still flicked them where they wanted to. When they wanted people to clean up the parking lot and common areas of butts they tried to get me into the group to do it. The manager that was forming the group for some reason was getting mostly non smokers to do it. He and I got into it and I told him to get the fark out of my work area and if he had a problem with anything he could talk to my manager. I also told him that it should be him and his smoker buddies cleaning it up. A VP of the company got involved and had only smokers make up the group. That manager always gave me dirty looks after that but couldnt tell me to do shiat.


lh5.googleusercontent.com
 
2014-02-11 10:37:22 AM

FizixJunkee: Cigarette butts are gross.  A tasering for dropping a cigarette butt seems fair to me.


He didn't drop anything, his father did.  The victim asked the cop if he could pick up the butt in lieu of a fine.

Normally I would say "there's more to the story" and they may be. But I'm thinking the cop was just a dick.

pkellmey: Who knows, if you can get second hand smoke problems, maybe you can get second hand shock therapy as well.


Stephen King's "Cat's Eye" has this plot. James Woods won't stop smoking, so they shock his wife.
 
Ant
2014-02-11 10:37:59 AM

OnlyM3: Liberal Utopia

// result of the state saying cops can gun down anyone at any time for any reason, 'cause they're nervous.


What? Really? Something tells me that your definition of certain words doesn't match up with everyone else's.
 
2014-02-11 10:46:30 AM

IamTomJoad: The "liberals" are the ones calling for a police state?


"The" ones?  They're all trying to tase your sack, chummer.

Every single fraggin' one of them.
 
2014-02-11 10:48:39 AM
Hi.

Welcome to 0fuk0's America, in which these crimes by police become the norm.

Bye.
 
2014-02-11 10:50:12 AM

whosits_112: FarkedOver: My wife, who doesn't know I smoke, recently found my clandestine cigarette cup....

Not to be mean, but, is she a bit slow? I mean, how could she not know? The smell of cigarettes cling like bad BO.


The only people who think smokers don't stink are smokers.  Obviously she smokes as well.
 
2014-02-11 10:50:19 AM

DAR:  I still need to work on getting my cell phone to drop video directly to a remote server as cops now days are being trained to grab cell phones.


I hope I never need it, but my phone is set up for that. I installed Bambuser (a free app that streams directly to the server) and set the phone to lock when the sleep button is pressed. I have tested to confirm that the video keeps streaming when that happens. The app is on the main screen. So I can unlock my phone and start shooting video in a few seconds, and it will keep recording whatever is in range until the phone stops working.

Everybody should be set up like this. If you aren't, then take a few minutes and do it today. Photography is not  a crime.
 
2014-02-11 10:56:03 AM
STEROIDS ATE MY BALLS!

IF MY BALLS DON'T WORK, NOBODY'S BALLS WORK!

YOU LOOKING AT ME?   YOU LOOKING AT ME?  DID YOU DROP SOMETHING?

I WILL KILL ANYBODY WHO LOOKS AT ME AND THEIR BALLS!
 
2014-02-11 10:56:57 AM

FizixJunkee: Cigarette butts are gross.  A tasering for dropping a cigarette butt seems fair to me.


Well - if we are going for an eye for an eye here...

then he should have been tazered in the butt, not the genitals.
 
2014-02-11 11:00:06 AM
2.bp.blogspot.com
 
DAR [TotalFark]
2014-02-11 11:01:46 AM

Captain Horatio Mindblower: I installed Bambuser (a free app that streams directly to the server)


Thanks, I'll check it out........k/dar
 
2014-02-11 11:02:42 AM

miss diminutive: I don't know what's more shocking, the feeling of 10,000 volts to the genitals or the fact that I'm no longer remotely surprised by stories of police officers behaving this way.


Probably the taser. My shock at hearing about police brutality has been gone for years now.

I like to believe that these events happen less often now, and we just have greater access to information.

At this point I just presume all cops are bad and won't even look at one. Except when I feel like that makes me suspicious, and I look at them briefly. Plus I'll never lie to a friend, but I have no guilt associated with lying to cops either. I don't even recognize them as humans anymore.
 
2014-02-11 11:03:39 AM
This is another thread where one can find an explanation for our roid raging paramilitary police force and high incarceration rates, as you can see by half the posts in this thread Americans are fine with the police beating the shiat out of an entire family because someone dropped a cigarette butt on the ground.
 
2014-02-11 11:05:20 AM

Queensowntalia: gweilo8888: DAR: The mother should have used her cell phone to record the encounter.  Video tends to keep cops from becoming assholes.

Yeah, no. It tends to get the person doing the filming arrested, too, and charged with violating wiretapping laws.

Yah, really.

http://www.alternet.org/story/151806/15_years_in_prison_for_taping_t he _cops_how_eavesdropping_laws_are_taking_away_our_best_defense_against_ police_brutality
http://photographyisnotacrime.com/2013/11/14/boston-police-arrest-st ud ent-wiretapping-charges-video-recording/

That doesn't always work out so well for the officer.


He'll just be hired by the LA County Sheriff's Dept without hesitation.
Cops are like cats, they always land on their feet..
 
2014-02-11 11:05:36 AM
i am just barely not okay with this.

ideal outcome.  cop tazes nuts of asshole who drops his butt on the ground.  tazer malfunctions and bursts into flames in over-reactive cop's hand and lights cop on fire.  a rare circumstance of no famly pets being killed in cop/citizen interaction.
 
2014-02-11 11:07:26 AM

Pangea: At this point I just presume all cops are bad and won't even look at one. Except when I feel like that makes me suspicious, and I look at them briefly. Plus I'll never lie to a friend, but I have no guilt associated with lying to cops either. I don't even recognize them as humans anymore.


I think the problem may be that there are a handful out there that feel the same about you.
 
2014-02-11 11:09:55 AM

pkellmey: Pangea: At this point I just presume all cops are bad and won't even look at one. Except when I feel like that makes me suspicious, and I look at them briefly. Plus I'll never lie to a friend, but I have no guilt associated with lying to cops either. I don't even recognize them as humans anymore.

I think the problem may be that there are a handful out there that feel the same about you.


a few bad apples?
 
2014-02-11 11:13:09 AM
All smokers who flick their cigarette butts on the ground deserve to be tasered in the genitals.
 
2014-02-11 11:14:25 AM

Headso: a few bad apples?


Who, as they say, ruin things for the other five percent.
 
2014-02-11 11:23:35 AM

FizixJunkee: Cigarette butts are gross.  A tasering for dropping a cigarette butt seems fair to me.


A Tasering, for asking if you can pick up someone else's butt, does seem a little excessive however
 
2014-02-11 11:24:34 AM
They didn't tase the guy who dropped the butt.   They tased the guy's son who didn't appropriately respect the authoriTIE of the best damn sheriff in the county.
 
2014-02-11 11:26:12 AM

Headso: This is another thread where one can find an explanation for our roid raging paramilitary police force and high incarceration rates, as you can see by half the posts in this thread Americans are fine with the police beating the shiat out of an entire family because someone dropped a cigarette butt on the ground.


The President of The United States of America is debating whether to assassinate ANOTHER citizen without charging them with crimes or affording them due process GUARANTEED in the US Constitution and no one gives a shiat. So cops beating on people is not even going to register with most people. This thread is a perfect example. Lots of GOOD and I'm OK With This just because the headline describes person or people that folks have been trained it is OK to hate. Sound familiar ?
 
2014-02-11 11:30:31 AM

kindms: Headso: This is another thread where one can find an explanation for our roid raging paramilitary police force and high incarceration rates, as you can see by half the posts in this thread Americans are fine with the police beating the shiat out of an entire family because someone dropped a cigarette butt on the ground.

The President of The United States of America is debating whether to assassinate ANOTHER citizen without charging them with crimes or affording them due process GUARANTEED in the US Constitution and no one gives a shiat. So cops beating on people is not even going to register with most people. This thread is a perfect example. Lots of GOOD and I'm OK With This just because the headline describes person or people that folks have been trained it is OK to hate. Sound familiar ?


Your false equivalency is bad and you should feel bad.
 
2014-02-11 11:35:46 AM
Some people pay well for that kind of treatment ...

Was the cop female? A tall authoritarian blonde like the one in Police Academy?

Gotta go ...
 
2014-02-11 11:41:55 AM
clicked link hoping for ...entitled minority..and...yes!!!

so dad goes around dropping lit cigars...by all means let him keep doing that.
 
2014-02-11 11:42:07 AM
That's why I like Toronto.  Every single city installed garbage can has 3 holes: One for garbage, one for recycling, and one for cigarettes.  There is a cigarette disposal on every block in the entire city.
 
2014-02-11 11:42:35 AM
Auto play video I can't pause/ stop until after watching the loud ad?

I know someone who needs to be tasered in the genitals...
 
2014-02-11 11:51:25 AM

doglover: Sybarite: using a Taser on his genitals while his mother watched

[www.cobraisland.com image 320x240]


Well, you're living in the right country for indulging strange fetishes.

/hell, that's boring there
 
2014-02-11 11:54:52 AM

DAR: The mother should have used her cell phone to record the encounter.  Video tends to keep cops from becoming assholes.

Which reminds me, I still need to work on getting my cell phone to drop video directly to a remote server as cops now days are being trained to grab cell phones.........k/dar


The ACLU-NJ has a phone app that records and automatically stores remotely. Called "Police Tape." No sublety there.
 
2014-02-11 11:55:34 AM

Pangea: At this point I just presume all cops are bad and won't even look at one. Except when I feel like that makes me suspicious, and I look at them briefly. Plus I'll never lie to a friend, but I have no guilt associated with lying to cops either. I don't even recognize them as humans anymore.


I'm not at that point yet. I know eleven cops personally to varying degrees (my old job on a university campus had me interacting with them regularly) and four of them were just decent guys who treated people well and with respect, took pride in their work and at least tried to see where people were coming from. The other seven were raging assholes who treated their badge like a free pass to harass, intimidate and humiliate people legally.
 
2014-02-11 11:58:12 AM

Pangea: kindms: Headso: This is another thread where one can find an explanation for our roid raging paramilitary police force and high incarceration rates, as you can see by half the posts in this thread Americans are fine with the police beating the shiat out of an entire family because someone dropped a cigarette butt on the ground.

The President of The United States of America is debating whether to assassinate ANOTHER citizen without charging them with crimes or affording them due process GUARANTEED in the US Constitution and no one gives a shiat. So cops beating on people is not even going to register with most people. This thread is a perfect example. Lots of GOOD and I'm OK With This just because the headline describes person or people that folks have been trained it is OK to hate. Sound familiar ?

Your false equivalency is bad and you should feel bad.


that's for sure, there's even a thread about that very topic on the politics tab at this very moment if he wants to discuss that subject.
 
2014-02-11 11:59:35 AM

walktoanarcade: I'm cool with that.

/drtfa


Came to say this. Now to rtfa.
 
2014-02-11 12:05:25 PM
Got off easy...
 
2014-02-11 12:07:58 PM

miss diminutive: Pangea: At this point I just presume all cops are bad and won't even look at one. Except when I feel like that makes me suspicious, and I look at them briefly. Plus I'll never lie to a friend, but I have no guilt associated with lying to cops either. I don't even recognize them as humans anymore.

I'm not at that point yet. I know eleven cops personally to varying degrees (my old job on a university campus had me interacting with them regularly) and four of them were just decent guys who treated people well and with respect, took pride in their work and at least tried to see where people were coming from. The other seven were raging assholes who treated their badge like a free pass to harass, intimidate and humiliate people legally.


I was using a little hyperbole, and actually get pretty good results from police. Fortunately for me I also am white and at least a little personable at times.

7 bad apples out of 11 is a pretty surprising and disappointing anecdote though.
 
2014-02-11 12:08:56 PM

Headso: Pangea: kindms: Headso: This is another thread where one can find an explanation for our roid raging paramilitary police force and high incarceration rates, as you can see by half the posts in this thread Americans are fine with the police beating the shiat out of an entire family because someone dropped a cigarette butt on the ground.

The President of The United States of America is debating whether to assassinate ANOTHER citizen without charging them with crimes or affording them due process GUARANTEED in the US Constitution and no one gives a shiat. So cops beating on people is not even going to register with most people. This thread is a perfect example. Lots of GOOD and I'm OK With This just because the headline describes person or people that folks have been trained it is OK to hate. Sound familiar ?

Your false equivalency is bad and you should feel bad.

that's for sure, there's even a thread about that very topic on the politics tab at this very moment if he wants to discuss that subject.


how is it false equivalency ? People OK with state power beating up people for minor infractions = people ok with state sanctioned assassinations of uncharged citizens. It speaks to the mentality of those who cheer on force as long as they are not the ones in the crosshairs.
 
2014-02-11 12:13:27 PM

trappedspirit: His side of the story sounds pretty plausible.

Citizen: "Can I pick up that cigarette?"
Officer: *FULLNELSON*



Thank you!!!!

I know we all hate the cops and that all cops are true power hungry scumbags who deserve instant death because of the profession they chose. . . but are we really around 100 posts in the thread without anyone even questioning these events? In all situations you have two sides and then the truth. We have one side of this story and an incomplete side at that. Dad drops things all the time, yet he smokes. Wow, what a wonderful combination. No chance of anything wrong going on there.

I'm sure the neighbor knocking "calmly" expressed to the son that the father was being ticketed. The son then went out and had a calm, quiet talk with the police. He probably said something like "Excuse me officer, can we please resolve this another way, I'll pick up the ciggy" and not "How dare you ticket my father you racist MF,"   I'm sure there were no gestures that could have appeared aggressive in his stance. And of course, the officers have history and know if they are dealing with a convicted murdered or a college grad with no criminal record. Then mom comes out and escalates the situation further.

Cmon people, we are better than this. You aren't guilty because you are black and you aren't guilty because you are a cop. The facts in this story by the family do not add up. That doesn't mean the cop was correct in what he did.  You do an investigation, look at the officers history and piece together what actually happened. Don't take the above paragraph as a defense of the cop. He might be a complete scumbag. You just aren't going to convince me of that by having one side of the story that makes the family look like heavenly angels and the cops look like demons rising up from the underworld. The truth is likely going to be a lot closer to the middle.
 
2014-02-11 12:19:51 PM

fueldr: trappedspirit: His side of the story sounds pretty plausible.

Citizen: "Can I pick up that cigarette?"
Officer: *FULLNELSON*


Thank you!!!!

I know we all hate the cops and that all cops are true power hungry scumbags who deserve instant death because of the profession they chose. . . but are we really around 100 posts in the thread without anyone even questioning these events? In all situations you have two sides and then the truth. We have one side of this story and an incomplete side at that. Dad drops things all the time, yet he smokes. Wow, what a wonderful combination. No chance of anything wrong going on there.

I'm sure the neighbor knocking "calmly" expressed to the son that the father was being ticketed. The son then went out and had a calm, quiet talk with the police. He probably said something like "Excuse me officer, can we please resolve this another way, I'll pick up the ciggy" and not "How dare you ticket my father you racist MF,"   I'm sure there were no gestures that could have appeared aggressive in his stance. And of course, the officers have history and know if they are dealing with a convicted murdered or a college grad with no criminal record. Then mom comes out and escalates the situation further.

Cmon people, we are better than this. You aren't guilty because you are black and you aren't guilty because you are a cop. The facts in this story by the family do not add up. That doesn't mean the cop was correct in what he did.  You do an investigation, look at the officers history and piece together what actually happened. Don't take the above paragraph as a defense of the cop. He might be a complete scumbag. You just aren't going to convince me of that by having one side of the story that makes the family look like heavenly angels and the cops look like demons rising up from the underworld. The truth is likely going to be a lot closer to the middle.


I can tell by your earnestness you so WANT this to be true. Awww, being naive (or is it willfully ignorant?) is so cute!
 
2014-02-11 12:23:07 PM

Pangea: At this point I just presume all cops are bad and won't even look at one. Except when I feel like that makes me suspicious, and I look at them briefly. Plus I'll never lie to a friend, but I have no guilt associated with lying to cops either. I don't even recognize them as humans anymore


It's best not to talk to them at all.  Their mission is to jail as many citizens as possible, after beating them to a pulp.
 
2014-02-11 12:23:34 PM
Bad cops, bad cops, what are you going to do when we come for you.
 
2014-02-11 12:25:07 PM

fueldr: You aren't guilty because you are black


You're guilty because you're poor and can't afford a decent lawyer.
 
2014-02-11 12:25:27 PM
So here is what we are expected to believe.

Old man outside getting a ticket.

Son walks up calmly "Excuse me Officer, my father has nerve damage, could I please just pick it up and avoid the fine?"

"Nope. And if you don't back up I can write you a ticket too."

"Aww shucks."

*son begins to walk away*

Other cop rushes in "LEROOOOOOOY JEEEEEENKINS!!!!!" *slam* "Hey Ted, I got this mother farker in a full nelson, punch the old guy in the face and get to tazerin on DEEEEEEEZ NUUUUUUUTZZZ!"

*ZAP*


Sounds legit.
 
2014-02-11 12:27:24 PM
I would sympathize, if they were at least willing to admit they did not "accidentally" drop the cigarette.

Fair's fair, if you want to call out the cop for what he did, tell the real side of your own story.
 
2014-02-11 12:31:51 PM

jst3p: Sounds legit.



www.fourwinds10.net
indeed...
 
2014-02-11 12:34:55 PM

FistingMidgets: Got off easy...


This.
 
2014-02-11 12:34:57 PM

rnatalie: They didn't tase the guy who dropped the butt.   They tased the guy's son


Even more effective....

4.bp.blogspot.com


/somewhat related
 
2014-02-11 12:35:47 PM

jfivealive: CheekyMonkey: Aside from the repugnant behavior of the cops in question, there are a couple of things wrong with this story:

1.  This man's nerve damage notwithstanding, smokers don't drop cigarette butts on the ground "by accident".  99.9% of them are serial litterbugs.

2.  Genital tasering is a perfectly cromulent punishment for any act of littering, especially a smoker throwing a butt on the ground.

The guy who got the nut tasering isn't the one who was smoking.


Yeah.  I came here hoping to praise the cops for once, but I am disappoint.  Those cops need to be put in jail, based on the reported "facts" of the story.
 
2014-02-11 12:35:58 PM

Headso: jst3p: Sounds legit.


[www.fourwinds10.net image 400x225]
indeed...


At least I got chicken.
 
2014-02-11 12:39:33 PM
last week it was 31 below where i live, and i was talking to a salesman who lived in LA...when i told him how cold it was he said,"why the hell would anyone live there?"

right back atcha, soCal.
 
2014-02-11 12:51:51 PM

jst3p: So here is what we are expected to believe.

Old man outside getting a ticket.

Son walks up calmly "Excuse me Officer, my father has nerve damage, could I please just pick it up and avoid the fine?"

"Nope. And if you don't back up I can write you a ticket too."

"Aww shucks."

*son begins to walk away*

Other cop rushes in "LEROOOOOOOY JEEEEEENKINS!!!!!" *slam* "Hey Ted, I got this mother farker in a full nelson, punch the old guy in the face and get to tazerin on DEEEEEEEZ NUUUUUUUTZZZ!"

*ZAP*


Sounds legit.


At least he has chicken.
 
2014-02-11 12:52:00 PM
ts2.mm.bing.net
Next this prick.
 
2014-02-11 12:52:29 PM
Sheepdip.
 
2014-02-11 12:54:09 PM

walktoanarcade: All righty then...I read the article and all I can say is...sear the cop with a cattle brand several times on his taint while "Ode to Joy" is played.

Sounds about right, doesn't it?


My vote would be for thr 1812 Overture, though, but I like the concept.
 
2014-02-11 12:56:33 PM

Carn: What a police officer may look like:

[i62.tinypic.com image 250x275]


cdn.staticneo.com

PICK UP THAT CIGARETTE BUTT, CITIZEN!
 
2014-02-11 01:00:40 PM
Johnson's mother came outside as Johnson began to walk away, until the other deputy, named in the complaint as "Deputy Russell," allegedly grabbed Johnson from behind and tried to slam him against the patrol car and into a concrete post, the complaint states.

I imagine this is the problem: you don't just walk away from cops if they aren't done with you, but there's not a lot of information to go on here. It's entirely possible that the kid escalated this situation by his own actions. Without video we'll never really know, IMHO, and he should have his day in court.

The whole Russian "video everything in your car" phenomenon needs to be everywhere, really. If we all wore cameras and had a record of the stuff that happened to/near us, a lot of these issues would either go away or be more easily resolved.
 
2014-02-11 01:35:49 PM
That's my hometown.  I know these deputies.  I've had to deal with them on multiple occasions.

And they are self-important assholes who apparently resent those who expect them to do their damn job rather than just behave like OGs in uniform.  I don't doubt this story for a moment.
 
2014-02-11 01:36:29 PM
The problem wasn't the cigarettes. The problem was not complying. When a cop tells you to do something you do it PERIOD. It doesn't matter if his commands were logical, legal or even make sense ... you just do it!!!

This guy wanted to go pick up his dad's dropped cigarette the cop wants to ticket him also. When he decided to go ahead and pick up the cigarette anyway that was a clear rebelling against the officer's orders!

Nothing will make a cop go from calm to extreme rage faster than a civilian ignoring or even questioning his orders!! NOTHING!
No wonder the cop tackle him, headlocked and his partner tasered his balls!!

Right or wrong the truth is they have guns and you don't so you will always lose! Might as well just comply and eat humble pie.
 
2014-02-11 01:44:48 PM

pkellmey: ristst: gweilo8888: DAR: The mother should have used her cell phone to record the encounter.  Video tends to keep cops from becoming assholes.

Yeah, no. It tends to get the person doing the filming arrested, too, and charged with violating wiretapping laws.

Yah, really.

http://www.alternet.org/story/151806/15_years_in_prison_for_taping_t he _cops_how_eavesdropping_laws_are_taking_away_our_best_defense_against_ police_brutality
http://photographyisnotacrime.com/2013/11/14/boston-police-arrest-st ud ent-wiretapping-charges-video-recording/

Didn't I just hear a news story about this photo surveillance system that's now being used here?  Where they just go to archives and track a vehicle used in a crime back to its point of origin?

So it's OK for the authorities to use video surveillance but if a citizen films an officer beating the crap outta somebody that's wiretapping...?

/yeah, makes perfect sense

My town just announced the police want to start using Google Glass to help identify people on the street. The lines are really getting blurry here.


"It would be like the Terminator. You walk past somebody and you get his pedigree info if he's wanted for a warrant right on your eye screen."
http://nypost.com/2014/02/06/nypd-testing-google-glass-as-potential- cr ime-fighting-tool/
 
2014-02-11 01:49:53 PM
sounds appropriate-  smokers seem to think the world is their farking ashtray
 
2014-02-11 01:51:40 PM
This deserves a testicle tasering:

www.healthtalktoday.net
 
2014-02-11 01:54:51 PM

Public Savant: If you come down hard on perpetrators, they will not re-offend.

This guy will think long and hard about littering again.


I know this is a troll, but it needs to be pointed out that it was the tasee's father the cops were citing.
 
2014-02-11 02:04:41 PM

fueldr: trappedspirit: His side of the story sounds pretty plausible.

Citizen: "Can I pick up that cigarette?"
Officer: *FULLNELSON*


Thank you!!!!

I know we all hate the cops and that all cops are true power hungry scumbags who deserve instant death because of the profession they chose. . . but are we really around 100 posts in the thread without anyone even questioning these events? In all situations you have two sides and then the truth. We have one side of this story and an incomplete side at that. Dad drops things all the time, yet he smokes. Wow, what a wonderful combination. No chance of anything wrong going on there.


Presumably that's why he was DOING IT OUTSIDE.

I'm sure the neighbor knocking "calmly" expressed to the son that the father was being ticketed. The son then went out and had a calm, quiet talk with the police. He probably said something like "Excuse me officer, can we please resolve this another way, I'll pick up the ciggy" and not "How dare you ticket my father you racist MF,"   I'm sure there were no gestures that could have appeared aggressive in his stance. And of course, the officers have history and know if they are dealing with a convicted murdered or a college grad with no criminal record. Then mom comes out and escalates the situation further.

Cmon people, we are better than this. You aren't guilty because you are black and you aren't guilty because you are a cop. The facts in this story by the family do not add up. That doesn't mean the cop was correct in what he did.  You do an investigation, look at the officers history and piece together what actually happened. Don't take the above paragraph as a defense of the cop. He might be a complete scumbag. You just aren't going to convince me of that by having one side of the story that makes the family look like heavenly angels and the cops look like demons rising up from the underworld. The truth is likely going to be a lot closer to the middle.


From the above, I expect that you, like myself, would favor putting tamper-proof recording devices on officers and requiring them to activate them for all citizen interactions. That would go a long way to eliminating these sorts of back and forth charges with no supporting evidence either way. Even with that, I don't think it would eliminate the problem completely. The cops routinely get cleared on acts that, had they been committed by a citizen, would have resulted in arrest and prosecution, the panic-stricken shooting-up of the two trucks by the cops during the Christopher Dorner episode, for one recent example.
 
2014-02-11 02:09:26 PM
FTA: Johnson's parents asked the deputies to "leave him alone" because he "hasn't done anything wrong."

That's not sufficient reason for cops to not taze you in the nuts.
 
2014-02-11 02:12:46 PM

SuperNinjaToad: The problem wasn't the cigarettes. The problem was not complying. When a cop tells you to do something you do it PERIOD. It doesn't matter if his commands were logical, legal or even make sense ... you just do it!!!

This guy wanted to go pick up his dad's dropped cigarette the cop wants to ticket him also. When he decided to go ahead and pick up the cigarette anyway that was a clear rebelling against the officer's orders!

Nothing will make a cop go from calm to extreme rage faster than a civilian ignoring or even questioning his orders!! NOTHING!
No wonder the cop tackle him, headlocked and his partner tasered his balls!!

Right or wrong the truth is they have guns and you don't so you will always lose! Might as well just comply and eat humble pie.


Yeah, well, always have one obvious throw-away recording device - then, when one has finally been discharged from the hospital and everyone from the cop on the beat to the DA has painted your portrait  à la grade school Goya - post up the contents from the other cameras...  Always be exceedingly polite & speak clearly and succinctly (from the time one takes the first jolt until after one cashes the final settlement check).

https://www.checkpointusa.org/blog/index.php/2007/09/26/p60
 
2014-02-11 02:26:03 PM

fueldr: You aren't guilty because you are black and you aren't guilty because you are a cop.


Well... you're half right.
 
2014-02-11 03:05:35 PM
well, as long as he's black its ok i guess.
 
2014-02-11 03:37:31 PM
Those anti smoiking types sure are zealous.
 
2014-02-11 03:40:42 PM
3.bp.blogspot.com

What's wrong with a gentle teasing?
 
2014-02-11 03:44:17 PM

SuperNinjaToad: The problem wasn't the cigarettes. The problem was not complying. When a cop tells you to do something you do it PERIOD. It doesn't matter if his commands were logical, legal or even make sense ... you just do it!!!

This guy wanted to go pick up his dad's dropped cigarette the cop wants to ticket him also. When he decided to go ahead and pick up the cigarette anyway that was a clear rebelling against the officer's orders!

Nothing will make a cop go from calm to extreme rage faster than a civilian ignoring or even questioning his orders!! NOTHING!
No wonder the cop tackle him, headlocked and his partner tasered his balls!!


Right or wrong the truth is they have guns and you don't so you will always lose! Might as well just comply and eat humble pie.


I'm not sure if it's the exclamation points, but these sentences are hilariously awesome to me.
 
2014-02-11 03:45:54 PM
I'm not applauding the deputies' use of force, but a suggestion:

If your disabled father tends to drop things because of health issues, how about not letting him smoke? Sounds like a tragic house fire waiting to happen.
 
2014-02-11 03:45:57 PM

Linux_Yes: well, as long as he's black its ok i guess.


He's not black. How do you feel about it now?
 
2014-02-11 04:03:14 PM

MagSeven: Linux_Yes: well, as long as he's black its ok i guess.

He's not black. How do you feel about it now?


ok. minority then.   damn details.
 
2014-02-11 04:04:55 PM

Beeblebrox: whosits_112: FarkedOver: My wife, who doesn't know I smoke, recently found my clandestine cigarette cup....

Not to be mean, but, is she a bit slow? I mean, how could she not know? The smell of cigarettes cling like bad BO.

The only people who think smokers don't stink are smokers.  Obviously she smokes as well.



i smoke when i'm on fire.
 
2014-02-11 04:06:28 PM

IamTomJoad: OnlyM3: Liberal Utopia

// result of the state saying cops can gun down anyone at any time for any reason, 'cause they're nervous.

The "liberals" are the ones calling for a police state?

Wow you aren't very good at this whole troll thing are you?



the Owners (richest 2 or 3%) are the one's who want a Police State.  they know that it won't hurt them, to the contrary, it will be under their control.

and it will protect all the stuff they own.
 
2014-02-11 04:06:49 PM
pkellmey:

My town just announced the police want to start using Google Glass to help identify people on the street. The lines are really getting blurry here.

See I'd be fine with this as long as the GG were mandated to record at all times the officer is on duty.  Then, the whole "we identified the suspect and he was resisting, but have no video" mantra may not hold up as well, hopefully..right?
 
2014-02-11 04:07:42 PM

martid4: This deserves a testicle tasering:

[www.healthtalktoday.net image 450x450]



Don't be a Butthead!
 
2014-02-11 05:44:55 PM
For what it's worth, I created a petition to make it a requirement that all law enforcement officers record their actions.  Hopefully it will get enough signatures.   http://wh.gov/lQ2kq;
 
2014-02-11 05:49:30 PM
The article kinda makes it sound like they guy dropped the butt on his own property. Which would kill the littering charges.
 
2014-02-11 07:05:56 PM
using a Taser on his genitals while his mother watched

24.media.tumblr.com
 
2014-02-11 07:13:10 PM

4nik8tor: For what it's worth, I created a petition to make it a requirement that all law enforcement officers record their actions.  Hopefully it will get enough signatures.   http://wh.gov/lQ2kq;


Ah, the innocence. We all get over it eventually.
 
2014-02-11 07:45:16 PM

xanadian: Stay classy, Los Angeles cops...


The Aristocops...
 
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