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2014-02-11 07:15:32 AM

phrawgh: walktoanarcade: People like you make me sick. Are you so stupid that you cannot imagine the disease and nastiness that would reign if enough were convinced of your callous attitude?

Can you clean up after yourself if you kill yourself?  No? Then don't be a disease-spreader.

If some get to be angry that I don't get flu shots (for the public good) then I get to be angry over the gross aftermath of a suicide.

We can overcome with technology.
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I take it you will now withdraw your objection?


Man, that's a good looking woman. Such shapely calves, those eyes.. (I imagine she's old as Hell or dead now, but hey)
 
2014-02-11 07:17:26 AM

walktoanarcade: Carth: If someone thinks about it and decides they want to end their life why shouldn't they be allowed to? It is their life to do what they want with.

People like you make me sick. Are you so stupid that you cannot imagine the disease and nastiness that would reign if enough were convinced of your callous attitude?

Can you clean up after yourself if you kill yourself?  No? Then don't be a disease-spreader.

If some get to be angry that I don't get flu shots (for the public good) then I get to be angry over the gross aftermath of a suicide.


The number of suicides in the US is about equal the number of people who die from the flu every year or on the highway. I'm sure we can think of a sanitary way to handle the problem. Remove the stigma, let people die in a hospital via injection after a mental competency check.
 
2014-02-11 07:19:27 AM

Carth: walktoanarcade: Carth: If someone thinks about it and decides they want to end their life why shouldn't they be allowed to? It is their life to do what they want with.

People like you make me sick. Are you so stupid that you cannot imagine the disease and nastiness that would reign if enough were convinced of your callous attitude?

Can you clean up after yourself if you kill yourself?  No? Then don't be a disease-spreader.

If some get to be angry that I don't get flu shots (for the public good) then I get to be angry over the gross aftermath of a suicide.

The number of suicides in the US is about equal the number of people who die from the flu every year or on the highway. I'm sure we can think of a sanitary way to handle the problem. Remove the stigma, let people die in a hospital via injection after a mental competency check.


Enjoy being a tool.
 
2014-02-11 07:28:19 AM

Carth: walktoanarcade: Carth: If someone thinks about it and decides they want to end their life why shouldn't they be allowed to? It is their life to do what they want with.

People like you make me sick. Are you so stupid that you cannot imagine the disease and nastiness that would reign if enough were convinced of your callous attitude?

Can you clean up after yourself if you kill yourself?  No? Then don't be a disease-spreader.

If some get to be angry that I don't get flu shots (for the public good) then I get to be angry over the gross aftermath of a suicide.

The number of suicides in the US is about equal the number of people who die from the flu every year or on the highway. I'm sure we can think of a sanitary way to handle the problem. Remove the stigma, let people die in a hospital via injection after a mental competency check.


Can you imagine how much that would cost? Cheaper to just hire a hitman.
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2014-02-11 07:41:45 AM

Mr. Ekshun: Can you imagine how much that would cost? Cheaper to just hire a hitman.


I think that was the plot of an episode of Criminal Minds.

It didn't end well for the poor security guard.
 
2014-02-11 08:14:23 AM

Wingless: Carth: If someone thinks about it and decides they want to end their life why shouldn't they be allowed to? It is their life to do what they want with.

Most people who are suicidal don't want to die. They either feel compelled to do so, or feel that they have no other options left to them, but they don't WANT to die. That's why they seek out help, that's why they go to the emergency room, or call a suicide hotline, because they are standing at the edge of the proverbial cliff and are desperately looking for something to hold onto.


So very much this.
 
2014-02-11 08:25:17 AM
Carth:  The number of suicides in the US is about equal the number of people who die from the flu every year or on the highway. I'm sure we can think of a sanitary way to handle the problem. Remove the stigma, let people die in a hospital via injection after a mental competency check.

But what kind of competency check? While I've gone through suicidal phases myself, when my meds are working, I'm usually ok. Although I would love to be able to die without consequence - seriously, if you told me I could die right now and not hurt or affect anyone I know, I'd do it in a heartbeat - I can't see the surviving families of the victims being ok with assisted suicide if they are otherwise "healthy." How do you know that the person wouldn't change his mind?
 
2014-02-11 08:27:36 AM

Manic Depressive Mouse: But what kind of competency check? While I've gone through suicidal phases myself, when my meds are working, I'm usually ok. Although I would love to be able to die without consequence - seriously, if you told me I could die right now and not hurt or affect anyone I know, I'd do it in a heartbeat - I can't see the surviving families of the victims being ok with assisted suicide if they are otherwise "healthy." How do you know that the person wouldn't change his mind?


Even in countries that allow assisted suicide, it's (overwhelmingly) only done in cases of terminal illness where there is no hope for their survival or them to have a quality life.

Carth is being an asshole hoping for bites.
 
2014-02-11 09:09:54 AM

Wingless: Carth: If someone thinks about it and decides they want to end their life why shouldn't they be allowed to? It is their life to do what they want with.

Most people who are suicidal don't want to die. They either feel compelled to do so, or feel that they have no other options left to them, but they don't WANT to die. That's why they seek out help, that's why they go to the emergency room, or call a suicide hotline, because they are standing at the edge of the proverbial cliff and are desperately looking for something to hold onto.


I'd be perfectly ok with dying today or any day, but i'm not willing to put in the effort, nor to hurt my family. As soon as i get an uncurable disease though, i'm outta here.
 
2014-02-11 09:45:43 AM
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2014-02-11 11:38:50 AM

hardinparamedic: I can't wait for this to go green. It'll be nice to see FARK's armchair psychiatry brigade come in here with their perfect lives and mental health, and be able to explain to us all why the people who might use this are worthless and should kill themselves if they can't talk to a live person over the phone.

If I sound cynical, eh, welcome to FARK I suppose.


Actually, I believe that when someone wants to kill themselves, the humane thing to do is to let them, or better yet, help them. Death is the natural end of life and everyone should be given the option to face it on their own terms.
 
2014-02-11 01:45:16 PM

Wingless: Carth: If someone thinks about it and decides they want to end their life why shouldn't they be allowed to? It is their life to do what they want with.

Most people who are suicidal don't want to die. They either feel compelled to do so, or feel that they have no other options left to them, but they don't WANT to die. That's why they seek out help, that's why they go to the emergency room, or call a suicide hotline, because they are standing at the edge of the proverbial cliff and are desperately looking for something to hold onto.


Yup; at least in my experience, anyway. When I was suicidal, it was all about wanting the pain to stop, and I had no idea how to stop hurting and stay alive. There's a huge number of times where I've "wanted to end my life," but I'm damn glad now that I didn't. So while I'm ok with allowing people the freedom and even the means of ending their lives on their own terms, I think that we'd all be much better served if we helped the otherwise healthy ones out of the great darkness in which they are living, constantly just trying to escape their anguish.
 
2014-02-11 03:07:55 PM

hardinparamedic: Manic Depressive Mouse: But what kind of competency check? While I've gone through suicidal phases myself, when my meds are working, I'm usually ok. Although I would love to be able to die without consequence - seriously, if you told me I could die right now and not hurt or affect anyone I know, I'd do it in a heartbeat - I can't see the surviving families of the victims being ok with assisted suicide if they are otherwise "healthy." How do you know that the person wouldn't change his mind?

Even in countries that allow assisted suicide, it's (overwhelmingly) only done in cases of terminal illness where there is no hope for their survival or them to have a quality life.

Carth is being an asshole hoping for bites.


I don't think he's a troll.  I agree with him.  If people want to kill themselves, they should be able to.  While it's cool to want to help people and all, there is a limit on what other people can do.  It's your life, and only you have to live it.  I think it's crazy and sadistic to want to force people to live a miserable life.  Yes the person committing suicide might hurt the people in their life who care about them (assuming they have any), but obviously those people either didn't care about that person enough in the first place or really couldn't do anything to make things better for them.

Before I met my husband I felt like I had no reason to live and honestly, if he ever died or left me, I would be back in that mindset.  He gives me purpose and happiness, something I have never experienced outside of him.  I know some people will think that is unhealthy, but it is how it is.

Some people are just broken and unfixable.  Why should we force them to continue on through misery?  That makes no sense to me.  People seem to think therapy or medications are some sort of answer, but I assure you they aren't for everyone.  If you fundamentally don't like who you are and find nothing redeemable about yourself then you're in for a tough road of misery if left alone as you will never get "better" because there is no where to progress to.  Changing oneself on such a deep level is nearly impossible when it's ingrained into every fiber of your being.

The only valid arguments I've heard against suicide are in situations with children/teenagers killing themselves as I do think they can at least try to be helped as it might not be too late for them and they might not be emotionally stable (hormones).  However, once in adulthood if they still have those feelings, they should be free to kill themselves.  Also parents with minor children who depend on them.  I can't really condone someone leaving a child alone in this world.  In those cases you should probably wait until they are 18 because you took on the responsibility of having them in the first place.

And anyone with a terminal illness or debilitating handicap should really be a no brainer in terms of letting them kill themselves.  If anyone has watched someone die a slow, painful death or become completely and permanently helpless with a horrible quality of life you would never disagree with this.

I'm not advocating that anyone should kill themselves, I'm merely of the stance that if they want to, they should be able to.
 
2014-02-11 03:25:03 PM
so, yeah, skip the hipster joking about not being able to txt the suicide twat-line...

twitter has reduced the capacity for msgs to 140 chars.

how does 733t5p34k establish any sort of communicshn w/ith someoneuserid on a bridge?
 
2014-02-11 07:50:08 PM

PillsHere: I'm merely of the stance that if they want to, they should be able to.


People who want to kill themselves, REALLY want to, will. Others feel despair and don't know how to get help. Sometimes it takes extreme or desperate measures for them to do so. It behooves everyone who has felt despair and survived to provide as many outlets for those who are in despair to get help as possible.
 
2014-02-11 07:57:10 PM

untaken_name: PillsHere: I'm merely of the stance that if they want to, they should be able to.

People who want to kill themselves, REALLY want to, will. Others feel despair and don't know how to get help. Sometimes it takes extreme or desperate measures for them to do so. It behooves everyone who has felt despair and survived to provide as many outlets for those who are in despair to get help as possible.


I really like that.  I practice it. I've been though more than any human should go through and still I feel much more lucky than most people on this planet.  If ever someone feels hopeless, alone and don't know what to do, I'll chat with you.  I won't even talk unless you want me to; just listen and let you know someone's there.
 
2014-02-11 08:42:14 PM

WhoGAS: untaken_name: PillsHere: I'm merely of the stance that if they want to, they should be able to.

People who want to kill themselves, REALLY want to, will. Others feel despair and don't know how to get help. Sometimes it takes extreme or desperate measures for them to do so. It behooves everyone who has felt despair and survived to provide as many outlets for those who are in despair to get help as possible.

I really like that.  I practice it. I've been though more than any human should go through and still I feel much more lucky than most people on this planet.  If ever someone feels hopeless, alone and don't know what to do, I'll chat with you.  I won't even talk unless you want me to; just listen and let you know someone's there.


Thanks, and seconded.
 
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