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(PC Magazine)   Imagine nanobots operating inside your body. This time WITHOUT the meth   (pcmag.com) divider line 26
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2014-02-10 08:05:35 PM  
I was told there would be no meth - oh wait.
 
2014-02-10 08:28:12 PM  
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2014-02-10 08:41:47 PM  
Why would my nanobots be on meth?
 
2014-02-10 08:43:25 PM  
Look, if they're not going to bring meth, they may as well not even show up.
 
2014-02-10 08:45:30 PM  
Any story that involves imagining some future tech belongs in a sci fi periodical.
 
2014-02-10 08:49:33 PM  
You can't make them too small, though, otherwise you run afoul of Hesienberg.
 
2014-02-10 08:52:25 PM  
Mebbe they can do something about the N-gauge model trains roaming around my intestines...
 
2014-02-10 08:56:03 PM  

Mad_Radhu: You can't make them too small, though, otherwise you run afoul of Hesienberg.


That jokes works on so many levels well two levels I guess that jokes works on two levels but without one of the levels the joke doesn't work so I guess it's just one level  that jokes works on one level but it's a level that bridges two different together so i'ts like a bridging level that joins the two other levels together so i guess it makes it own level or it could make 2.5 levels I guess it's how you think about iit but man anyways it was a really funny joke that worked on 1 to 2.5 levels
 
2014-02-10 09:09:48 PM  

BigLuca: Mad_Radhu: You can't make them too small, though, otherwise you run afoul of Hesienberg.

That jokes works on so many levels well two levels I guess that jokes works on two levels but without one of the levels the joke doesn't work so I guess it's just one level  that jokes works on one level but it's a level that bridges two different together so i'ts like a bridging level that joins the two other levels together so i guess it makes it own level or it could make 2.5 levels I guess it's how you think about iit but man anyways it was a really funny joke that worked on 1 to 2.5 levels


This post doesn't make sense. But on meth it does.
 
2014-02-10 09:19:49 PM  
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2014-02-10 09:25:46 PM  
Shut up, Wesley.
 
2014-02-10 09:39:43 PM  
Nanobots, biatch
 
2014-02-10 09:42:15 PM  

El Dudereno: BigLuca: Mad_Radhu: You can't make them too small, though, otherwise you run afoul of Hesienberg.

That jokes works on so many levels well two levels I guess that jokes works on two levels but without one of the levels the joke doesn't work so I guess it's just one level  that jokes works on one level but it's a level that bridges two different together so i'ts like a bridging level that joins the two other levels together so i guess it makes it own level or it could make 2.5 levels I guess it's how you think about iit but man anyways it was a really funny joke that worked on 1 to 2.5 levels

This post doesn't make sense. But on meth it does.


Have you ever read a post requiring you to be on meth... on weed?
 
2014-02-10 10:30:49 PM  
By "nanobots" they mean "nanoparticle that is made of two metals then were shook with ultrasound" then yeah I guess so.

/Not particularly impressed
 
2014-02-10 10:40:57 PM  
Not actually nanobots, but still cool.

/not sure nanobots would be cool
 
2014-02-10 11:00:31 PM  
Will they allow me to live for ten years on a tropical beach... in my mind?

/maybe just a steel beach
 
2014-02-10 11:47:27 PM  
I'm already full of organic nanobots that fight disease and tumors. They're amazing devices: they remember details of infectious cells for decades, and as soon as they find them some models attach tags telling other hunter-killer nanobots to destroy the invader.

We typically use names like "memory B-cell", "antibody" and "cytotoxic T-cell" for them.
 
2014-02-11 12:00:46 AM  
Someday... actual nanobots will replace our entire horribly flawed immune systems.  They will probably work on a whitelist instead of a blacklist.  That will give us immunity to hostile pathogens - even new ones - all while sparing helpful bacteria and our own cells.  Because cells that go cancerous on us will fail the whitelist(they have mutated/changed), cancer itself will be treated without us knowing we ever had it.  Of course the best benefit is instantly curing all the problems our immune system itself causes... quite a few things at that.

Also I will probably be long dead by then but one can hope otherwise.  Once we are at that point, we will probably fix aging with (different) nanobots as well assuming we didn't already lick that problem already by other means.  Aside from accidents/murder/etc - there may be no reason at that point that we would need to die at all(and even then nanomachines could probably fix most the damage).

The downside is we would most certainly NEED to look into population control, possibly using extreme measures such as forced sterilization (well at least on those who will live forever anyhow - fair trade I think).  This world cannot possibly sustain an ever increasing population of immortal beings.  Ah who an I kidding?  Only rich people will get nanomachines so business as usual for the rest of us.

Yeah I am going off nothing based FTA, as what they are describing is NOT nanomachines.
 
2014-02-11 12:15:49 AM  
GOD DAMN YOU, KURZWEIL!
 
2014-02-11 12:45:37 AM  

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Those guys can't even give Mike a decent haircut. I definitely wouldn't trust them to perform surgery.
 
2014-02-11 01:41:28 AM  
I love the idea of this technology, but hate the idea of a swarm of these remotely controlled micro devices possibly being hacked or manipulated for malicious purposes...
 
2014-02-11 02:02:13 AM  
So wait, I can't have nanobots and meth inside my body at the same time?  There goes my weekend plans.
 
2014-02-11 06:55:39 AM  
Dammit. Wil got drunk, passed out, and left the container open again....
 
2014-02-11 07:37:01 AM  
Wow, can't believe I missed this thread. This are my field!

These aren't 'nanobots' in the classical, sci-fi sense, and we are *SO FAR* from that style of nanobots it's not even funny. (If that style of nanobot is even *POSSIBLE*.)

The best way I can describe the current state of nanotech is this:

We are currently getting *very*, very good at making a variety of nano-scale shapes and using them in different fashions. A lot of materials have some very useful properties on the nanoscale (gold and silver in particular have very interesting optical properties on the nanoscale, that can be used in a variety of ways. Including medically). You could think of this akin to... well, to stone-age man, actually. "This small sharp rock... knife! This bigger, flat sharp rock: AXE! Long smooth rock, SHOVEL!" Or "Ugg make wheel!"

But *combining* these nanoparticles together into complex shapes is *really, really farking hard*, and that's what a number of people (and me/my advisor!) are working on. This would be akin to figuring out how to attack, say, the sharp axe-rock to a stick of wood, or "Ugg put stick *Through* wheel! Make axle!" )

One of the reasons it's so hard is simply because nanoscale matter/materials *aren't stable* inherently: If you put, say, a bunch of *bare* gold nanoparticles into a solution, they are going to clump very, very fast to form bulk gold. (Most synthesized gold nanoparticles are *not* bare when you make them: a lot come with a citrate coating as a byproduct of the synthesis process). To keep nanoparticles apart, you need to either coat them in something that's charged, so they repel each other, or a steric coating, which you can think of like teflon.

But that makes it hard to combine nanoparticles chemically: Becuase you've coated them in something to *keep them from interacting with stuff*. So you have to start doing fun chemical trickery (or, well, my advisor/the research I'm doing involves manipulating the interesting optical properties of gold to break/damage a special coating selectively), and it can be a huge pain in the ass.

That said, even non-nanobot nanotech has a *lot* of potential medical uses. It's an exciting field to be in!


Reverend J: By "nanobots" they mean "nanoparticle that is made of two metals then were shook with ultrasound" then yeah I guess so.

/Not particularly impressed


Eh that's actually about as good as nanotech gets these days. And you'd be *AMAZED* at what you can do with just properly-shaped nanoparticles.

blacksharpiemarker: I love the idea of this technology, but hate the idea of a swarm of these remotely controlled micro devices possibly being hacked or manipulated for malicious purposes...


I wouldn't worry too much about it: I'm not entirely convinced that style of nanobot is *possible*, and if it is, we are... really, really far from it.

Glockenspiel Hero: I'm already full of organic nanobots that fight disease and tumors. They're amazing devices: they remember details of infectious cells for decades, and as soon as they find them some models attach tags telling other hunter-killer nanobots to destroy the invader.

We typically use names like "memory B-cell", "antibody" and "cytotoxic T-cell" for them.


*PEDANT MODE ACTIVATE* Technically those would be 'micro-bots', given their size scale (On the order of 10 um or so).

*PEDANT MODE DEACTIVATE*
 
2014-02-11 09:12:48 AM  

Russ1642: Any story that involves imagining some future tech belongs in a sci fi periodical.


speculation has no place in intellectual and cultural discourse! Imagined possibilities are lies and must be confined to the ghetto of genre fiction for some stupid reason!
 
2014-02-11 04:11:10 PM  
what if the nanobots are on METH?
 
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