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(Santa Rosa Press Democrat)   Kindasorta news: Dummies take inflatable raft down a swollen creek during a rain storm (sans life jackets) and get stuck in debris. Fark: Dumbass #1's quote: "It they're so upset about it, they shouldn't be rescuing people for a living. I pay taxes"   (pressdemocrat.com) divider line 42
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2014-02-10 05:58:16 PM  
15 votes:
Dude. You are 24 years old. Unless you invented a new type of pornography, there is no possible way you've paid into the system the amount that it just cost to rescue your dumb ass.
2014-02-10 07:14:44 PM  
5 votes:
"It they're so upset about it, they shouldn't be rescuing people for a living," Bowman said. "I pay taxes."

Yes, you do, and so do THEY you ignorant slack-jawed knuckle - dragging mouth breather. They risked their lives to save you and your lover, and you pop off with that bullshiat? They have chosen to be part of the solution to human stupidity, at their own risk, and you hate on them? Wow. If i had been the fire chief there i would have tossed your ignorant ass right back in the river.
2014-02-10 07:24:55 PM  
4 votes:
A few years ago I was part of a search team for a couple in their mid 50s that got lost while on a group hike, seems they wandered off on their own and got turned around. When they were found they were less than a quarter mile from a service road so the team that found em gave em water and started to escort them out when they announced that they were tired and demanded a rescue helo come pick em up, since they weren't injured or in distress the copter ride was refused. They pitched a hissy fit about being "forced" to walk to where a ranger truck could pick them up even trying to get their congressman involved, I was a volunteer so I was not able to find out how it ended but I cant see them getting very far.


/helos cost a lot to operate and even a routine mission can be very hazardous to the crews of both the helo and ground team.
2014-02-10 07:14:24 PM  
4 votes:

Honest Bender: Well, he's got a point...
Those folks are specifically paid to rescue people.

I don't biatch about doing my job.


Does your job involve risking your life because some dumbsh*t did something worthy of being a dumbsh*t?
2014-02-10 06:05:31 PM  
4 votes:
send him the bill for the rescue, the aristocrats.
2014-02-11 12:21:12 AM  
3 votes:

Abacus9: ongbok: Abacus9: Gyrfalcon: Unobtanium: Paging hardinparamedic to thread 8137180...

I'm sure you don't want to hear what he's got to say. Nothing gets medics and rescuers pissed off like dumbasses who feel they're entitled to risk their lives being stupid and then biatching about the service when it gets there.

Yes, these guys "make a living" rescuing people as you say. They would prefer it be because you did everything right and still got into trouble, not because you deliberately did everything WRONG and got your stupid ass into trouble because you were a fool. It's too bad people like this are incapable of comprehending that fine distinction.

Come on, you're smarter than that. Most people can make almost all the right decisions and fark up one small thing, and end up in trouble.

CSB: An old friend of mine got beat up by a bouncer once, for zero reason. Not only did the cops do nothing, one of the paramedics assaulted me because I dared suggest he do his job, which he never did. The officer that witnessed this made me apologize to the rent-a-doc. And while none of it made the news, you know how they can twist a story. Just saying, maybe the guy's an ass, but he's not necessarily wrong.

Hmmm. That statement right there tells me that your friend most likely got his ass beat by the bouncer for a reason, and you were also being an asshole. Plus in your story everybody was being an asshole except for you and your friend who where doing nothing. What's the old saying, if everybody you meet is an asshole, then it is you who are the asshole.

Hmmm, that post right there tells me you have zero reading comprehension. There were about ten of us, as it was a bachelor party. I only accused the one paramedic and the one cop of being assholes. And they were. My friend got beat up for having the balls to go back inside to get his phone. The cop was an asshole for refusing to even look into it, the paramed was an asshole for refusing to care for my friend, as he's paid to do ...


Good points, all. Sounds legit to me, and damn anyone who doubts your version of how these events unfolded. Because, after all, a bunch of guys at a bachelor party are never anything but the very picture of decorum.
2014-02-10 09:27:51 PM  
3 votes:

Abacus9: Gyrfalcon: Unobtanium: Paging hardinparamedic to thread 8137180...

I'm sure you don't want to hear what he's got to say. Nothing gets medics and rescuers pissed off like dumbasses who feel they're entitled to risk their lives being stupid and then biatching about the service when it gets there.

Yes, these guys "make a living" rescuing people as you say. They would prefer it be because you did everything right and still got into trouble, not because you deliberately did everything WRONG and got your stupid ass into trouble because you were a fool. It's too bad people like this are incapable of comprehending that fine distinction.

Come on, you're smarter than that. Most people can make almost all the right decisions and fark up one small thing, and end up in trouble.

CSB: An old friend of mine got beat up by a bouncer once, for zero reason. Not only did the cops do nothing, one of the paramedics assaulted me because I dared suggest he do his job, which he never did. The officer that witnessed this made me apologize to the rent-a-doc. And while none of it made the news, you know how they can twist a story. Just saying, maybe the guy's an ass, but he's not necessarily wrong.


Hmmm. That statement right there tells me that your friend most likely got his ass beat by the bouncer for a reason, and you were also being an asshole. Plus in your story everybody was being an asshole except for you and your friend who where doing nothing. What's the old saying, if everybody you meet is an asshole, then it is you who are the asshole.
2014-02-10 07:41:13 PM  
3 votes:

Honest Bender: Well, he's got a point...
Those folks are specifically paid to rescue people.

I don't biatch about doing my job.



The kid comes across as a self entitled twat.  The firefighters probably were upset because of that, not because they had to do their job.  We have this same problem with our volunteers in Search and Rescue.  People come to BC and think  "hey, we'll go off trail" or "I'm a good skiier I'll be fine going past the ropes".  The twatwaffles then feel offended when we ask them to reimburse.  I'ts not just the danger SAR  encounters.  They take away from their jobs, there is continuous training, cost of training the dogs (yes it is freaking expensive), the cost of gear, licensing, vehicles, gas, helicopters etc. depending on the situation.  This is all covered by taxes and fundraisers.   In some cases people have even tried to sue because they weren't there soon enough.

Like fire fighters, these guys and gals don't get paid nearly enough to put their lives on the line for honest accidents.  To get snotted out by someone who did a farking stupid thing is adding insult to injury.
2014-02-10 07:19:42 PM  
3 votes:
Sure, they're paid to rescue people, but folks who go out of their way to put themselves in danger deserve whatever bad feelings they get from their rescuers.

You're putting them at risk too, dipshiats!
2014-02-10 05:44:08 PM  
3 votes:
Throw him back into the river and finish the Darwination.
2014-02-10 08:05:10 PM  
2 votes:
Even though this has absolutely nothing to do with search & rescue, the whole "Ima taxpayer" thing always gets my goat.

I used to hear that crap all the time when I worked for Parks & Rec anytime someone didn't like a decision I made.

When I ran adult softball, we had games two nights a week. On those days, fields were prepped early in the afternoon and 'closed' until game time. From time to time, I would find people playing on the infield and I would tell them nicely that I had games scheduled that night and if the players showed up and their fields were messed up, they would be upset. I also told them that if they moved to the outfield, no one would mind if they stuck around.

One fellow decided to pull the taxpayer card on me. I told him kindly "well sir, I have about 100 guys that are going to play on this field this evening that are also taxpayers. Plus, they also paid registration fees to play in the league." He then threatened to call my boss, the council, etc. I gave him the numbers and wished him well and told him that the park rangers would be by in a few minutes.
2014-02-10 07:35:39 PM  
2 votes:
Shiat like this is why my dad no longer volunteers for S&R. The stories of the dumbasses they had to go rescue in the middle of winter were mind boggling. Hey, how about let's not go hiking in the MIDDLE OF THE EFFING FORREST IN THE MIDDLE OF EFFING WINTER wearing nothing heavier than a windbreaker and only carrying a little bottle of water, and then be shocked when you get lost and nearly freeze to death before anyone finds you?
2014-02-10 07:30:32 PM  
2 votes:

what_now: Dude. You are 24 years old. Unless you invented a new type of pornography, there is no possible way you've paid into the system the amount that it just cost to rescue your dumb ass.


That was an absolutely stellar phrase I will steal.
2014-02-10 07:28:13 PM  
2 votes:

Honest Bender: Well, he's got a point...
Those folks are specifically paid to rescue people.

I don't biatch about doing my job.


Two guys get bored and toss lit matches at oily rags in their garage. House catches on fire. Fire department comes and saves them, puts out fire.

Fire chief says, "They put themselves at risk and they put the rescuers at risk. It was totally unnecessary and entirely preventable."

Guys say, "If they're so upset about it, they shouldn't be fighting fires for a living. I pay taxes."

See how stupid that is? I'm sure rescue personnel are more than happy to save people that need saving through no fault of their own. Saving dumbasses like these? Not quite.
2014-02-10 07:25:16 PM  
2 votes:
It's actually dangerous work, youngster. Think of them as human life preservers, ideally you don't need them but it's good to have them around you, and it's probably a good idea not to put your dumb ass into a situation where either was needed.

If you want to complain, next time they could let the phone ring for an hour and then send the coroner.

I really hope someone sends him a bill so he can give a local judge a piece of his mind.
2014-02-10 07:21:32 PM  
2 votes:

fusillade762: Throw him back into the river and finish the Darwination.


THIS....so farking THIS!
2014-02-10 07:11:05 PM  
2 votes:
Well, he's got a point...
Those folks are specifically paid to rescue people.

I don't biatch about doing my job.
2014-02-10 05:50:49 PM  
2 votes:
wel... he does have a point. but, yeah, he's a dumbass.
2014-02-10 11:31:13 PM  
1 votes:
As a mother of a sometimes boneheaded boy (not these, thank god), I can honestly say that if my son did anything stupid that warranted professional rescue, he should be too embarrassed to say anything but "thank you" and then shut up.

If otherwise, I can safely say I would personally march his butt to the nearest place of public service and offer his unpaid help for a month.

/once, after smartmouthing off about war veterans, I made him do a study about WWII and then write a thank you letter to the local Legion
2014-02-10 11:18:21 PM  
1 votes:
Wonder what the dipshiat's Fark handle is. I have a few guesses based on comments in this thread.
2014-02-10 10:12:32 PM  
1 votes:

doglover: sleeps in trees: I fully expect one of my boys or their friends will get into hot water. What I don't expect is being rude, unrepentant and disrespectful to those who bail them out.

Have you met kids? Like... ever? Hell, look at the attitude bankers have towards us even after the bailout.


Wasn't this a 24 year old "kid"?
2014-02-10 10:06:26 PM  
1 votes:
Anytime someone uses the "I pay taxes" defense, I assume they're talking about cigarettes and boxed wine.
2014-02-10 10:04:10 PM  
1 votes:

Ficoce: sleeps in trees: Honest Bender: Well, he's got a point...
Those folks are specifically paid to rescue people.

I don't biatch about doing my job.


The kid comes across as a self entitled twat.  The firefighters probably were upset because of that, not because they had to do their job.  We have this same problem with our volunteers in Search and Rescue.  People come to BC and think  "hey, we'll go off trail" or "I'm a good skiier I'll be fine going past the ropes".  The twatwaffles then feel offended when we ask them to reimburse.  I'ts not just the danger SAR  encounters.  They take away from their jobs, there is continuous training, cost of training the dogs (yes it is freaking expensive), the cost of gear, licensing, vehicles, gas, helicopters etc. depending on the situation.  This is all covered by taxes and fundraisers.   In some cases people have even tried to sue because they weren't there soon enough.

Like fire fighters, these guys and gals don't get paid nearly enough to put their lives on the line for honest accidents.  To get snotted out by someone who did a farking stupid thing is adding insult to injury.

This argument always comes off a little odd to me. I pay taxes for firemen to do things like this, not sit around the station and play cards over pizza. If it's volunteer SAR, someone is paying for the equipment - and asking for reimbursement goes against the volunteer aspect of the whole thing. If you do get money from it, I should just mobilize myself when this kind of stuff happens and undercut your prices. That way you can pick and choose the "emergencies" you go to on a moral and financial basis. Some states have this all figured out to be able to finance all the training and resources for non-judgmental rescues, apparently your state isn't one of them.

With your logic, the guy and his dog that called SAR should be paid.



SAR is not a bunch of firefighters sitting around eating pizza (which they rarely do due to equipment upkeep etc.)  therefore I don't understand the comparison.  No one is asking for their time to be paid for nor their training.  Equipment is usually paid for by volunteers and fund raisers if at all possible with small grants (I'm not in a state).  There is no reimbursement for hours spent, and dog training etc.  Asking for immediate reimbursement usually happens when a helicopter is brought in and it was a deliberate situation.  Like I said, skiing out of bounds where it is clearly posted etc.  So your argument doesn't make sense to me.

Who is the guy and his dog that called SAR and why should they be paid?
2014-02-10 09:52:33 PM  
1 votes:

Hilary T. N. Seuss: If ever these dummies need rescuing again, I believe I would forego my pay for that day... to save those taxpayers some cash. I'm sure they'd thank me as their lungs fill with water.


I would not worry about it. You have zero chance of passing the Civil service psychological tests for a  first responder.
2014-02-10 09:12:55 PM  
1 votes:

doglover: Abacus9: Private_Citizen: what_now: Dude. You are 24 years old. Unless you invented a new type of pornography, there is no possible way you've paid into the system the amount that it just cost to rescue your dumb ass.

Some people pay taxes, other people cost taxes (especially when the cost of jail is figured in).

Most do both, unless they've never been employed. You seem to have a childishly simple understanding of things.

Most do.

All these people in here. "People had to be rescued after making a rookie mistake in a well established hobby practiced by millions!" and they're upset?

Pfft. We're all young once.



Here is the difference, I fully expect one of my boys or their friends will get into hot water.  What I don't expect is being rude, unrepentant and disrespectful to those who bail them out.  You break a window you are contrite and work at that neighbours yard until that window is paid off.  Same goes for these boys.  The amount of time and money you wasted you could make up volunteering or at least show your appreciation.  And the aforementioned has NOTHING to do with if the person is paid or a volunteer.  It's farking common courtesy and respect.  If these guys don't realise that then their parents are abject failures and this won't be the last time they wind up in hot water.
2014-02-10 08:38:06 PM  
1 votes:
As a Coastie mom, little gets my blood boiling more than idiots who put rescuers at risk due to boneheaded crap like this.
2014-02-10 08:35:43 PM  
1 votes:
FTFA:  Bowman, his white shirt, jeans and boots soaked, said he and Sitzer launched their craft into Piner Creek near Marlow Road with the idea of reaching Willowside Road, where Sitzer had left his pickup truck.
The pair was unprepared for the whitewater conditions they faced once Piner merged with Santa Rosa Creek. They capsized somewhere near Fulton Road.


So, here is:

1. where they started
2. where they intended to go
3. about where they capsized

img.fark.net

That's more than 3.5 miles between 1 and 2, and it isn't even clear that the pickup truck was in drivable condition.

Way to go, nimrods.
2014-02-10 08:34:47 PM  
1 votes:

Unobtanium: Paging hardinparamedic to thread 8137180...


I'm sure you don't want to hear what he's got to say. Nothing gets medics and rescuers pissed off like dumbasses who feel they're entitled to risk their lives being stupid and then biatching about the service when it gets there.

Yes, these guys "make a living" rescuing people as you say. They would prefer it be because you did everything right and still got into trouble, not because you deliberately did everything WRONG and got your stupid ass into trouble because you were a fool. It's too bad people like this are incapable of comprehending that fine distinction.
2014-02-10 08:20:27 PM  
1 votes:

snuffy: send him the bill for the rescue, the aristocrats.


THAT along with a note saying "your taxes didn't cover this part".
2014-02-10 08:14:59 PM  
1 votes:
EMT Oath

Be it pledged as an Emergency Medical Technician, I will honor the physical and judicial laws of God and man. I will follow that regimen which, according to my ability and judgment, I consider for the benefit of patients and abstain from whatever is deleterious and mischievous, nor shall I suggest any such counsel. Into whatever homes I enter, I will go into them for the benefit of only the sick and injured, never revealing what I see or hear in the lives of men unless required by law.

I shall also share my medical knowledge with those who may benefit from what I have learned. I will serve unselfishly and continuously in order to help make a better world for all mankind.

While I continue to keep this oath unviolated, may it be granted to me to enjoy life, and the practice of the art, respected by all men, in all times. Should I trespass or violate this oath, may the reverse be my lot.

So help me God.
2014-02-10 08:12:46 PM  
1 votes:

Honest Bender: Well, he's got a point...
Those folks are specifically paid to rescue people.

I don't biatch about doing my job.


No? Not ever, bender-of-honest? Huh. I bet you brown-nose like a motherfarker, though.
2014-02-10 08:11:50 PM  
1 votes:

lordjupiter: what_now: Dude. You are 24 years old. Unless you invented a new type of pornography, there is no possible way you've paid into the system the amount that it just cost to rescue your dumb ass.

And he may never live to pay it all back if he keeps acting like an entitled reckless dumbass.

First thing I thought when I saw the quote in the headline was "male, under 25, probably white".  First two confirmed, would still bet on the last.


You can bet that it really pisses him off that .05 cents of "His Tax Dollar" goes for food stamps, though..
2014-02-10 08:11:02 PM  
1 votes:

Car_Ramrod: Honest Bender: Well, he's got a point...
Those folks are specifically paid to rescue people.

I don't biatch about doing my job.

Two guys get bored and toss lit matches at oily rags in their garage. House catches on fire. Fire department comes and saves them, puts out fire.

Fire chief says, "They put themselves at risk and they put the rescuers at risk. It was totally unnecessary and entirely preventable."

Guys say, "If they're so upset about it, they shouldn't be fighting fires for a living. I pay taxes."

See how stupid that is? I'm sure rescue personnel are more than happy to save people that need saving through no fault of their own. Saving dumbasses like these? Not quite.


Wouldn't it be nice if Fire chiefs, EMT's and rescue personnel could evaluate situations in advance, assign blame, and refuse to offer services?
2014-02-10 07:54:06 PM  
1 votes:

FlashHarry: wel... he does have a point.


Not really.
2014-02-10 07:50:45 PM  
1 votes:

Honest Bender: Well, he's got a point...
Those folks are specifically paid to rescue people.

I don't biatch about doing my job.


and because of that soon you'll be on fries, and then the grill.

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2014-02-10 07:36:28 PM  
1 votes:

FDR Jones: humanshrapnel: Honest Bender: Well, he's got a point...
Those folks are specifically paid to rescue people.

I don't biatch about doing my job.

Does your job involve risking your life because some dumbsh*t did something worthy of being a dumbsh*t?

Did the rescuers get into the rescuing business thinking they would never have to rescue idiots who put themselves in dangerous situations?


Are they not allowed to roll their eyes at the absolute dumbasses they encounter simply because they chose this line of work
2014-02-10 07:32:01 PM  
1 votes:

FDR Jones: humanshrapnel: Honest Bender: Well, he's got a point...
Those folks are specifically paid to rescue people.

I don't biatch about doing my job.

Does your job involve risking your life because some dumbsh*t did something worthy of being a dumbsh*t?

Did the rescuers get into the rescuing business thinking they would never have to rescue idiots who put themselves in dangerous situations?


They don't have to like it. If I'm ever dumb enough to put myself in that kind of situation, I won't care if the people saving me scowl as they call me an asshole, as long as they rescue me. Not every rescue has to come with a smiley face and sunny disposition.
2014-02-10 07:27:41 PM  
1 votes:

humanshrapnel: Honest Bender: Well, he's got a point...
Those folks are specifically paid to rescue people.

I don't biatch about doing my job.

Does your job involve risking your life because some dumbsh*t did something worthy of being a dumbsh*t?


Did the rescuers get into the rescuing business thinking they would never have to rescue idiots who put themselves in dangerous situations?
2014-02-10 07:26:56 PM  
1 votes:
Paging hardinparamedic to thread 8137180...
2014-02-10 07:23:12 PM  
1 votes:
So privatize rescuing?
2014-02-10 07:21:21 PM  
1 votes:
Someone is about to get internet raped and deservedly so.
2014-02-10 07:21:13 PM  
1 votes:

Bit'O'Gristle: "It they're so upset about it, they shouldn't be rescuing people for a living," Bowman said. "I pay taxes."

Yes, you do, and so do THEY you ignorant slack-jawed knuckle - dragging mouth breather. They risked their lives to save you and your lover, and you pop off with that bullshiat? They have chosen to be part of the solution to human stupidity, at their own risk, and you hate on them? Wow. If i had been the fire chief there i would have tossed your ignorant ass right back in the river.


Better if he were given a swift kick in the nuts before being tossed back in.
 
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