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(Santa Rosa Press Democrat)   Kindasorta news: Dummies take inflatable raft down a swollen creek during a rain storm (sans life jackets) and get stuck in debris. Fark: Dumbass #1's quote: "It they're so upset about it, they shouldn't be rescuing people for a living. I pay taxes"   (pressdemocrat.com) divider line 144
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2014-02-10 10:21:53 PM  

Pribar: /helos cost a lot to operate and even a routine mission can be very hazardous to the crews of both the helo and ground team.


Mainly because it's a device that's trying to rip itself apart as it defies the laws of physics.

Planes glide gracefully through the air. Helos pummel the air into submission.

/Wanna learn to fly both
//Helicopters are awesome
///They don't actually defy the laws of physics
 
2014-02-10 10:23:52 PM  
Having grown up in Santa Rosa .. there's pretty much fark-all to do in that town, always has been and probably always will be.

The Guy's an idiot, but I can see where he's coming from, trying to find *something* to do around there other than meth and Yer Mom...
 
2014-02-10 10:24:05 PM  
Too funny, I live within 1-2 miles of the mentioned locations! I'm also surprised someone thought this was a good idea, those creeks are at least 10 feet deep in the center and moving right along when they are flooded like that. As you can see, it isn't an featureless channel either.
There is still a thriving Redneck community here in Santa Rosa and surrounding areas and while not bad people, they tend not to be the most thoughtful and introspective. I'll bet good $ the boots worn were cowboy boots or work boots (Redwing?) and the there was some Carhartt or Lee apparel involved, possibly camo as well. The waiting truck was a Chevy 4x4 or Ford diesel as well.

/They were white
//Does that make me racist?
 
2014-02-10 10:24:24 PM  

doglover: addy2: doglover: sleeps in trees: I fully expect one of my boys or their friends will get into hot water. What I don't expect is being rude, unrepentant and disrespectful to those who bail them out.

Have you met kids? Like... ever? Hell, look at the attitude bankers have towards us even after the bailout.

Wasn't this a 24 year old "kid"?

24 is a kid. Ask any 30+ year old.


Still too old to be given any latitude for dumbassery. But knowing this my son will be watched more closely.
 
2014-02-10 10:27:50 PM  
am I the only one who read that headline as "Swollen crack"?  I thought someone shoving a raft in a swollen crack sounded kinda painful..
 
2014-02-10 10:41:26 PM  
I've never known anyone working as a rescue worker who didn't like putting their lives on the line to rescue idiots like these two.
 
2014-02-10 11:16:21 PM  
While it probably true the rescuers involved were on duty, and therefore doing the job they were being paid to do. WOULD IT KILL'YA TO SAY "THANK YOU". Optional S&R fees on licenses and permits strike me as being perfectly fair. Billing people egregiously stupid or careless behavior, ditto.
 
2014-02-10 11:18:21 PM  
Wonder what the dipshiat's Fark handle is. I have a few guesses based on comments in this thread.
 
2014-02-10 11:23:12 PM  

addy2: doglover: addy2: doglover: sleeps in trees: I fully expect one of my boys or their friends will get into hot water. What I don't expect is being rude, unrepentant and disrespectful to those who bail them out.

Have you met kids? Like... ever? Hell, look at the attitude bankers have towards us even after the bailout.

Wasn't this a 24 year old "kid"?

24 is a kid. Ask any 30+ year old.

Still too old to be given any latitude for dumbassery. But knowing this my son will be watched more closely.


Morally, you can't do this....

But I've always wanted to set up society better. Y'know, more in line with the natural laws.

In such a place, rescuing people like this would be optional and the resources dispatched would be strictly voluntary. Maybe just get life jackets out to the them and wish 'em luck.
 
2014-02-10 11:31:13 PM  
As a mother of a sometimes boneheaded boy (not these, thank god), I can honestly say that if my son did anything stupid that warranted professional rescue, he should be too embarrassed to say anything but "thank you" and then shut up.

If otherwise, I can safely say I would personally march his butt to the nearest place of public service and offer his unpaid help for a month.

/once, after smartmouthing off about war veterans, I made him do a study about WWII and then write a thank you letter to the local Legion
 
2014-02-10 11:39:43 PM  

ongbok: Abacus9: Gyrfalcon: Unobtanium: Paging hardinparamedic to thread 8137180...

I'm sure you don't want to hear what he's got to say. Nothing gets medics and rescuers pissed off like dumbasses who feel they're entitled to risk their lives being stupid and then biatching about the service when it gets there.

Yes, these guys "make a living" rescuing people as you say. They would prefer it be because you did everything right and still got into trouble, not because you deliberately did everything WRONG and got your stupid ass into trouble because you were a fool. It's too bad people like this are incapable of comprehending that fine distinction.

Come on, you're smarter than that. Most people can make almost all the right decisions and fark up one small thing, and end up in trouble.

CSB: An old friend of mine got beat up by a bouncer once, for zero reason. Not only did the cops do nothing, one of the paramedics assaulted me because I dared suggest he do his job, which he never did. The officer that witnessed this made me apologize to the rent-a-doc. And while none of it made the news, you know how they can twist a story. Just saying, maybe the guy's an ass, but he's not necessarily wrong.

Hmmm. That statement right there tells me that your friend most likely got his ass beat by the bouncer for a reason, and you were also being an asshole. Plus in your story everybody was being an asshole except for you and your friend who where doing nothing. What's the old saying, if everybody you meet is an asshole, then it is you who are the asshole.


Hmmm, that post right there tells me you have zero reading comprehension. There were about ten of us, as it was a bachelor party. I only accused the one paramedic and the one cop of being assholes. And they were. My friend got beat up for having the balls to go back inside to get his phone. The cop was an asshole for refusing to even look into it, the paramed was an asshole for refusing to care for my friend, as he's paid to do, and then for nearly ripping my arm off. The only one who did their job in this story is the bouncer, and they did it wrong.

You weren't there, and fark you for presuming you know what happened.
 
2014-02-10 11:41:29 PM  

lordjupiter: probably white


Is that racist?
 
2014-02-10 11:48:49 PM  

doglover: addy2: doglover: addy2: doglover: sleeps in trees: I fully expect one of my boys or their friends will get into hot water. What I don't expect is being rude, unrepentant and disrespectful to those who bail them out.

Have you met kids? Like... ever? Hell, look at the attitude bankers have towards us even after the bailout.

Wasn't this a 24 year old "kid"?

24 is a kid. Ask any 30+ year old.

Still too old to be given any latitude for dumbassery. But knowing this my son will be watched more closely.

Morally, you can't do this....

But I've always wanted to set up society better. Y'know, more in line with the natural laws.

In such a place, rescuing people like this would be optional and the resources dispatched would be strictly voluntary. Maybe just get life jackets out to the them and wish 'em luck.


What natural laws? Everything that happens is natural. Unless you believe in some supernatural deity, everything is natural, including every human action.
 
2014-02-11 12:19:28 AM  
They're still alive?

I'm sure most Farkers know this, but for you younguns out there, know this - just a few inches of slow-moving flood/muddy/debris water can end you.  Stay away from flood/flash flood areas.

We haven't been getting much of any rain here in CA this year, but when we do there's always young men getting swept away.
 
2014-02-11 12:19:39 AM  

Abacus9: What natural laws?


Survival of the fittest.

It's one thing when a baby crawls in front of a car, gets bopped out into the air, is captured by a passing pelican, and winds up in the middle of the forest on a mountain side and needs to be rescued like in some cartoon. Send all the king's horses and all the king's men.

But when a grown ass man gets himself trapped on an island in a flood stage river? Maybe we can just kinda launch a life vest over with a pneumatic t-shirt gun.
 
2014-02-11 12:21:12 AM  

Abacus9: ongbok: Abacus9: Gyrfalcon: Unobtanium: Paging hardinparamedic to thread 8137180...

I'm sure you don't want to hear what he's got to say. Nothing gets medics and rescuers pissed off like dumbasses who feel they're entitled to risk their lives being stupid and then biatching about the service when it gets there.

Yes, these guys "make a living" rescuing people as you say. They would prefer it be because you did everything right and still got into trouble, not because you deliberately did everything WRONG and got your stupid ass into trouble because you were a fool. It's too bad people like this are incapable of comprehending that fine distinction.

Come on, you're smarter than that. Most people can make almost all the right decisions and fark up one small thing, and end up in trouble.

CSB: An old friend of mine got beat up by a bouncer once, for zero reason. Not only did the cops do nothing, one of the paramedics assaulted me because I dared suggest he do his job, which he never did. The officer that witnessed this made me apologize to the rent-a-doc. And while none of it made the news, you know how they can twist a story. Just saying, maybe the guy's an ass, but he's not necessarily wrong.

Hmmm. That statement right there tells me that your friend most likely got his ass beat by the bouncer for a reason, and you were also being an asshole. Plus in your story everybody was being an asshole except for you and your friend who where doing nothing. What's the old saying, if everybody you meet is an asshole, then it is you who are the asshole.

Hmmm, that post right there tells me you have zero reading comprehension. There were about ten of us, as it was a bachelor party. I only accused the one paramedic and the one cop of being assholes. And they were. My friend got beat up for having the balls to go back inside to get his phone. The cop was an asshole for refusing to even look into it, the paramed was an asshole for refusing to care for my friend, as he's paid to do ...


Good points, all. Sounds legit to me, and damn anyone who doubts your version of how these events unfolded. Because, after all, a bunch of guys at a bachelor party are never anything but the very picture of decorum.
 
2014-02-11 12:33:41 AM  

humanshrapnel: Honest Bender: Well, he's got a point...
Those folks are specifically paid to rescue people.

I don't biatch about doing my job.

Does your job involve risking your life because some dumbsh*t did something worthy of being a dumbsh*t?


It would if I signed up to be a firefighter. It's not like they didn't know what they were signing up for, nor is anyone forcing them to continue in an inherently dangerous job.
 
2014-02-11 12:47:17 AM  

jshine: humanshrapnel: Honest Bender: Well, he's got a point...
Those folks are specifically paid to rescue people.

I don't biatch about doing my job.

Does your job involve risking your life because some dumbsh*t did something worthy of being a dumbsh*t?

It would if I signed up to be a firefighter. It's not like they didn't know what they were signing up for, nor is anyone forcing them to continue in an inherently dangerous job.


Oh, get real. You act like being stupid is your sacred right and it's everyone else's duty to pick up after you when you do. Some jobs are dangerous ENOUGH (firefighting, being a cop, a soldier, a coalminer), without having to deal with people who feel it's their god-given right to do everything the way they want to and f*ck the rules. If you want to go out into the wilderness and go whitewater rafting, then you should at least have a certain amount of training, carry proper lifesaving equipment, and not be drunk off your ass when you go. Then, when you get caught in a flash flood or someone breaks an ankle, at least you did everything right and you legitimately need rescuing and not because you and your buddies are dumbshiats who figured "Hey! SAR's got nothing better to do with their time, they can fish our drunk stupid butts out of these flooded Stage 6 rapids!"

No, SAR's job is to fish your drunk stupid butt out of those Stage 6 rapids; but they don't have to be happy that you could have avoided it by not being drunk, stupid, and in rapids you had no business being in in the first place. That was YOUR job, and you blew it. So you could at least be thankful and grateful someone is out there whose job it is to fish stupid drunks out of raging rivers and not be arrogant assholes about it. They are not biatching about doing their job. They're biatching because you did not do YOUR job.
 
2014-02-11 12:59:32 AM  

DrBenway: Abacus9: ongbok: Abacus9: Gyrfalcon: Unobtanium: Paging hardinparamedic to thread 8137180...

I'm sure you don't want to hear what he's got to say. Nothing gets medics and rescuers pissed off like dumbasses who feel they're entitled to risk their lives being stupid and then biatching about the service when it gets there.

Yes, these guys "make a living" rescuing people as you say. They would prefer it be because you did everything right and still got into trouble, not because you deliberately did everything WRONG and got your stupid ass into trouble because you were a fool. It's too bad people like this are incapable of comprehending that fine distinction.

Come on, you're smarter than that. Most people can make almost all the right decisions and fark up one small thing, and end up in trouble.

CSB: An old friend of mine got beat up by a bouncer once, for zero reason. Not only did the cops do nothing, one of the paramedics assaulted me because I dared suggest he do his job, which he never did. The officer that witnessed this made me apologize to the rent-a-doc. And while none of it made the news, you know how they can twist a story. Just saying, maybe the guy's an ass, but he's not necessarily wrong.

Hmmm. That statement right there tells me that your friend most likely got his ass beat by the bouncer for a reason, and you were also being an asshole. Plus in your story everybody was being an asshole except for you and your friend who where doing nothing. What's the old saying, if everybody you meet is an asshole, then it is you who are the asshole.

Hmmm, that post right there tells me you have zero reading comprehension. There were about ten of us, as it was a bachelor party. I only accused the one paramedic and the one cop of being assholes. And they were. My friend got beat up for having the balls to go back inside to get his phone. The cop was an asshole for refusing to even look into it, the paramed was an asshole for refusing to care for my friend, as he's paid to do ...

Good points, all. Sounds legit to me, and damn anyone who doubts your version of how these events unfolded. Because, after all, a bunch of guys at a bachelor party are never anything but the very picture of decorum.


Wasn't my first bachelor party, or my first introduction to law enforcement. Or the first time I was at a bachelor party in which cops showed up. But we did nothing wrong, and I don't care that the cop didn't believe us. I care that the paramedic did nothing, assaulted me in front of the cop, and the cop was all "kneel before Zod."

But that's Detroit for ya.
 
2014-02-11 01:07:28 AM  

doglover: Abacus9: What natural laws?

Survival of the fittest.

It's one thing when a baby crawls in front of a car, gets bopped out into the air, is captured by a passing pelican, and winds up in the middle of the forest on a mountain side and needs to be rescued like in some cartoon. Send all the king's horses and all the king's men.

But when a grown ass man gets himself trapped on an island in a flood stage river? Maybe we can just kinda launch a life vest over with a pneumatic t-shirt gun.


That's not what survival of the fittest means, as I'm sure you know.

For the rest, as I said, it's all natural. Nothing unnatural exists. Your definition of nature, from what I can tell, is some sort of Jack London jackoff fantasy.

My idea is that society, as created by humans, is nature, as humans are a type of animal.
 
2014-02-11 01:08:24 AM  
These whiny rescue workers should quit their jobs and let real men fill their positions. Little cry babies. I know plenty of real men who would love to risk their lives saving people in distress all day long.

Not only that, but without adventurous souls such as these, there would be less rescue work, so some of these rescue workers might not have jobs. They should thank the adventurers for keeping them employed.
 
2014-02-11 01:20:49 AM  
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2014-02-11 01:25:42 AM  
Something to consider is that many rescue workers are volunteers not paid to take the risks they are doing, they are risking their livelihoods as well as their lives every time they have to fish some idiot out of the drink, so show em a modicum of courtesy and don't needlessly endanger yourself, and if you just have to do some extreme sports do it in a setting where you have other sportsmen nearby to assist you if you get in over your head so as to minimize the chance of either you or they not making it home again
 
2014-02-11 01:31:51 AM  

Gyrfalcon: jshine: humanshrapnel: Honest Bender: Well, he's got a point...
Those folks are specifically paid to rescue people.

I don't biatch about doing my job.

Does your job involve risking your life because some dumbsh*t did something worthy of being a dumbsh*t?

It would if I signed up to be a firefighter. It's not like they didn't know what they were signing up for, nor is anyone forcing them to continue in an inherently dangerous job.

Oh, get real. You act like being stupid is your sacred right and it's everyone else's duty to pick up after you when you do. Some jobs are dangerous ENOUGH (firefighting, being a cop, a soldier, a coalminer), without having to deal with people who feel it's their god-given right to do everything the way they want to and f*ck the rules. If you want to go out into the wilderness and go whitewater rafting, then you should at least have a certain amount of training, carry proper lifesaving equipment, and not be drunk off your ass when you go. Then, when you get caught in a flash flood or someone breaks an ankle, at least you did everything right and you legitimately need rescuing and not because you and your buddies are dumbshiats who figured "Hey! SAR's got nothing better to do with their time, they can fish our drunk stupid butts out of these flooded Stage 6 rapids!"

No, SAR's job is to fish your drunk stupid butt out of those Stage 6 rapids; but they don't have to be happy that you could have avoided it by not being drunk, stupid, and in rapids you had no business being in in the first place. That was YOUR job, and you blew it. So you could at least be thankful and grateful someone is out there whose job it is to fish stupid drunks out of raging rivers and not be arrogant assholes about it. They are not biatching about doing their job. They're biatching because you did not do YOUR job.


It's weird to me that some people seem to think people with gigs like that should be some sort of "I do my job and have no opinion. How may I assist you with your emergency today?" robots.
 
2014-02-11 01:41:05 AM  

FlashHarry: wel... he does have a point. but, yeah, he's a dumbass.


Nope, he's not entitled to be a dumbass just because taxpayer dollars go towards emergency services. He'll probably be getting charged for this in one way or another.
 
2014-02-11 02:40:55 AM  
I'll make an (likely accurate) assumption, saying that although our retarded adventures pay taxes, they don't vote. Also more to topic, if it's the middle of the day during torrential rains, I doubt they pay both sales AND income taxes.

I hope after this article ended, quoted dumbass was knocked out by some old-timey fire chief. Or they offered to return them to the point they found them.
 
2014-02-11 03:21:41 AM  

Abacus9: Wasn't my first bachelor party, or my first introduction to law enforcement. Or the first time I was at a bachelor party in which cops showed up. But we did nothing wrong


Yup, those damn cops and ret-a-docs are always out to assault people and put them in jail for no reason.

/Why, I was just at the county prison last week, it turns out that every single person there was really innocent...
 
2014-02-11 03:57:08 AM  

the ha ha guy: Abacus9: Wasn't my first bachelor party, or my first introduction to law enforcement. Or the first time I was at a bachelor party in which cops showed up. But we did nothing wrong

Yup, those damn cops and ret-a-docs are always out to assault people and put them in jail for no reason.

/Why, I was just at the county prison last week, it turns out that every single person there was really innocent...


Was it America? That might be true.
 
2014-02-11 05:30:04 AM  
I pay taxes

I'll take that bet.
 
2014-02-11 05:55:24 AM  

what_now: Dude. You are 24 years old. Unless you invented a new type of pornography, there is no possible way you've paid into the system the amount that it just cost to rescue your dumb ass.


Let's just call it an Obamacare subsidy.
 
2014-02-11 06:48:29 AM  
I wont be suprised if them or their parents wont try and sue the government for not putting up a fence to prevent this.
 
2014-02-11 07:40:57 AM  

Percise1: Too funny, I live within 1-2 miles of the mentioned locations! I'm also surprised someone thought this was a good idea, those creeks are at least 10 feet deep in the center and moving right along when they are flooded like that. As you can see, it isn't an featureless channel either.
There is still a thriving Redneck community here in Santa Rosa and surrounding areas and while not bad people, they tend not to be the most thoughtful and introspective. I'll bet good $ the boots worn were cowboy boots or work boots (Redwing?) and the there was some Carhartt or Lee apparel involved, possibly camo as well. The waiting truck was a Chevy 4x4 or Ford diesel as well.

/They were white
//Does that make me racist?


See, the BUT I PAY TAXES line made me think of entitled children of wealthier parents. Now the guy who drown a while back in Windsor because he decided to get drunk while fishing in the middle of a lake while simultaneously NOT KNOWING HOW TO SWIM in an area without a lifeguard, that to me screamed redneck for some reason.
 
2014-02-11 08:17:37 AM  

Abacus9: Gyrfalcon: Unobtanium: Paging hardinparamedic to thread 8137180...

I'm sure you don't want to hear what he's got to say. Nothing gets medics and rescuers pissed off like dumbasses who feel they're entitled to risk their lives being stupid and then biatching about the service when it gets there.

Yes, these guys "make a living" rescuing people as you say. They would prefer it be because you did everything right and still got into trouble, not because you deliberately did everything WRONG and got your stupid ass into trouble because you were a fool. It's too bad people like this are incapable of comprehending that fine distinction.

Come on, you're smarter than that. Most people can make almost all the right decisions and fark up one small thing, and end up in trouble.

CSB: An old friend of mine got beat up by a bouncer once, for zero reason. Not only did the cops do nothing, one of the paramedics assaulted me because I dared suggest he do his job, which he never did. The officer that witnessed this made me apologize to the rent-a-doc. And while none of it made the news, you know how they can twist a story. Just saying, maybe the guy's an ass, but he's not necessarily wrong.


I know when I was a paramedic, I always took treatment advice from belligerent drunken assholes with no training and contempt for my profession. I'm sure your douchebag commentary and retarded diagnosis was far more accurate than the guy who is actually trained to make those judgements.
 
2014-02-11 08:20:50 AM  

the ha ha guy: Yup, those damn cops and ret-a-docs are always out to assault people and put them in jail for no reason.


Not sure about "ret-a-docs", but I find the cops part to be believable.
 
2014-02-11 09:38:45 AM  

Honest Bender: I don't biatch about doing my job.


Either you're not human or your job consists of receiving blowjobs from supermodels all day...
 
2014-02-11 09:44:27 AM  

RobSeace: Honest Bender: I don't biatch about doing my job.

Either you're not human or your job consists of receiving blowjobs from supermodels all day...


static2.wikia.nocookie.net

/the whining would get on your nerves
 
2014-02-11 09:51:36 AM  

RobSeace: Honest Bender: I don't biatch about doing my job.

Either you're not human or your job consists of receiving blowjobs from supermodels all day...


Is it really so difficult to believe that I enjoy my job?
 
2014-02-11 10:38:52 AM  

Honest Bender: RobSeace: Honest Bender: I don't biatch about doing my job.

Either you're not human or your job consists of receiving blowjobs from supermodels all day...

Is it really so difficult to believe that I enjoy my job?


No, it's difficult to believe you've never once complained about it, though... I enjoy the hell out of my job... But, no matter how enjoyable what you do is, everyone occassionally gets annoyed or burned out on it... Hell, even recreational activities that people choose to do for fun sometimes piss them off and cause them to complain!

So, yeah... Either you weren't entirely truthful there, or you're actually a robot... (But, obviously not Bender, since he complains all the time!)
 
2014-02-11 10:39:58 AM  

Millions_Knives: I'll make an (likely accurate) assumption, saying that although our retarded adventures pay taxes, they don't vote.


I'm betting that they vote Republican.
 
2014-02-11 11:17:08 AM  
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I say, let em drown!
 
2014-02-11 02:26:56 PM  

Gyrfalcon: jshine: humanshrapnel: Honest Bender: Well, he's got a point...

Stage 6 rapids


Class 6 means a rapid is not normally runnable in whitewater craft, typically a waterfall with a drop more than 10-12 feet.  These two probably had a Sevylor raft, toy paddles, and no skills.  They could easily have been flipped by a class 3 rapid.

Out west the most popular whitewater runs often do have fee-based permitting requirements in the summer.  Enforcement is lax, but if you need to be rescued and did not pay, you get dinged.
 
2014-02-11 08:34:36 PM  

Abacus9: DrBenway: Abacus9: ongbok: Abacus9: Gyrfalcon: Unobtanium: Paging hardinparamedic to thread 8137180...

I'm sure you don't want to hear what he's got to say. Nothing gets medics and rescuers pissed off like dumbasses who feel they're entitled to risk their lives being stupid and then biatching about the service when it gets there.

Yes, these guys "make a living" rescuing people as you say. They would prefer it be because you did everything right and still got into trouble, not because you deliberately did everything WRONG and got your stupid ass into trouble because you were a fool. It's too bad people like this are incapable of comprehending that fine distinction.

Come on, you're smarter than that. Most people can make almost all the right decisions and fark up one small thing, and end up in trouble.

CSB: An old friend of mine got beat up by a bouncer once, for zero reason. Not only did the cops do nothing, one of the paramedics assaulted me because I dared suggest he do his job, which he never did. The officer that witnessed this made me apologize to the rent-a-doc. And while none of it made the news, you know how they can twist a story. Just saying, maybe the guy's an ass, but he's not necessarily wrong.

Hmmm. That statement right there tells me that your friend most likely got his ass beat by the bouncer for a reason, and you were also being an asshole. Plus in your story everybody was being an asshole except for you and your friend who where doing nothing. What's the old saying, if everybody you meet is an asshole, then it is you who are the asshole.

Hmmm, that post right there tells me you have zero reading comprehension. There were about ten of us, as it was a bachelor party. I only accused the one paramedic and the one cop of being assholes. And they were. My friend got beat up for having the balls to go back inside to get his phone. The cop was an asshole for refusing to even look into it, the paramed was an asshole for refusing to care for my friend, ...


You should try digging up instead, man.
 
2014-02-11 10:14:17 PM  

Bender The Offender: Abacus9: Gyrfalcon: Unobtanium: Paging hardinparamedic to thread 8137180...

I'm sure you don't want to hear what he's got to say. Nothing gets medics and rescuers pissed off like dumbasses who feel they're entitled to risk their lives being stupid and then biatching about the service when it gets there.

Yes, these guys "make a living" rescuing people as you say. They would prefer it be because you did everything right and still got into trouble, not because you deliberately did everything WRONG and got your stupid ass into trouble because you were a fool. It's too bad people like this are incapable of comprehending that fine distinction.

Come on, you're smarter than that. Most people can make almost all the right decisions and fark up one small thing, and end up in trouble.

CSB: An old friend of mine got beat up by a bouncer once, for zero reason. Not only did the cops do nothing, one of the paramedics assaulted me because I dared suggest he do his job, which he never did. The officer that witnessed this made me apologize to the rent-a-doc. And while none of it made the news, you know how they can twist a story. Just saying, maybe the guy's an ass, but he's not necessarily wrong.

I know when I was a paramedic, I always took treatment advice from belligerent drunken assholes with no training and contempt for my profession. I'm sure your douchebag commentary and retarded diagnosis was far more accurate than the guy who is actually trained to make those judgements.


I've never had anything against paramedics. Just this particular one. You've never dealt with Detroit public workers, have you. As it turns out, my friend had a broken nose, and had to give up his best man duties.

For the rest, we weren't drunk or belligerent. You're only showing your ignorance when you're judging a situation you didn't witness.
 
2014-02-11 10:28:08 PM  

4tehsnowflakes: Gyrfalcon: jshine: humanshrapnel: Honest Bender: Well, he's got a point...

Stage 6 rapids

Class 6 means a rapid is not normally runnable in whitewater craft, typically a waterfall with a drop more than 10-12 feet.  These two probably had a Sevylor raft, toy paddles, and no skills.  They could easily have been flipped by a class 3 rapid.

Out west the most popular whitewater runs often do have fee-based permitting requirements in the summer.  Enforcement is lax, but if you need to be rescued and did not pay, you get dinged.


(Yes, I know.)
 
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