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2014-02-10 05:22:37 PM  

Nutsac_Jim: ikanreed: Callous: HotWingConspiracy:
 

1.  You look like an idiot.  Disallowing guns on school grounds is about lowering a simple risk factor without pretending it'll stop the most driven school shootings.  If you've never been in a situation in high school where you'd escalate to shooting another student if you had a gun, you've never gone through puberty.


If you are banning guns and don't see a drop in gun crimes at schools, then you are the one who looks like an idiot.

All you have succeeded in doing is feeling better about yourself.   You won a participation ribbon!


Oh NO!
Not that easily.
The bleeders have enabled an entire generation of politicians promising the inimpossible while stealing mos' all the country not nailed down.
 
2014-02-10 05:23:55 PM  

lennavan: We could refute his point but honestly we can't so we'll fling poo and hope no one notices the difference.


FTFY
 
2014-02-10 05:24:00 PM  

ikanreed: Nutsac_Jim: If you are banning guns and don't see a drop in gun crimes at schools, then you are the one who looks like an idiot.

You do.  The end.  The rest of this babble of yours is dumb.


Show us.
 
2014-02-10 05:25:16 PM  

Boojum2k: lennavan: Teenagers are well known for being sane, indeed even logical.

Yeah, every teenager comes out of high school an alcoholic drug addict with a violent crime record and a kid.

Look, at least you know you're a sociopath who'd shoot someone as soon as you held a gun, and kudos to you for restraining yourself. But the vast majority of people aren't like you.


Right, the vast majority of people aren't sociopaths who would shoot someone as soon as they held a gun.  So we should allow unlimited access to guns everywhere.  It's probably fine.
 
2014-02-10 05:26:33 PM  

lennavan: Callous: lennavan: EatenTheSun: The thought of using one to kill someone I had a disagreement with never occurred to me.

You never thought it, therefore no one ever does.  Seems legit.

You're the one that suggested that everyone has.

By all means, quote where I suggested everyone has thought to use a gun to kill someone else.

Quote it.


ikanreed: If you've never been in a situation in high school where you'd escalate to shooting another student if you had a gun, you've never gone through puberty.


Quite sorry, I somehow confused the two of you..
 
2014-02-10 05:26:50 PM  

lennavan: Boojum2k: lennavan: Teenagers are well known for being sane, indeed even logical.

Yeah, every teenager comes out of high school an alcoholic drug addict with a violent crime record and a kid.

Look, at least you know you're a sociopath who'd shoot someone as soon as you held a gun, and kudos to you for restraining yourself. But the vast majority of people aren't like you.

Right, the vast majority of people aren't sociopaths who would shoot someone as soon as they held a gun.  So we should allow unlimited access to guns everywhere.  It's probably fine.


Far better than the fantasy you are selling.
 
2014-02-10 05:27:42 PM  
Add him to the long list of liberals who shouldn't have access to guns.
 
2014-02-10 05:30:16 PM  

lennavan: Right, the vast majority of people aren't sociopaths who would shoot someone as soon as they held a gun.


Exactly.

 

lennavan: So we should allow unlimited access to guns everywhere.


Aww, and you were doing so well at learning. Two steps forward, three back.
 
2014-02-10 05:31:02 PM  

ikanreed: Nutsac_Jim: If you are banning guns and don't see a drop in gun crimes at schools, then you are the one who looks like an idiot.

You do.  The end.  The rest of this babble of yours is dumb.


You guys are just retards.  Seriously.  One of you came up and said that we cant have any teacher with a gun in a safe, because what is going to happen when the teacher is frustrated that johnny isnt doing what they say and gave the finger shoot.

Seriously?  Yes, i am so sure teachers, who want to instruct and work with children, will just whip out a gun and shoot them.

Why don't they?  Because it is INSANE.

Guess what, it is insane behavior to go into a school and shoot someone.
A sign isn't going to prevent them.

Now.. Be a good boy and back up your assertion that putting up gun free zones caused a drop in school shootings.
 
2014-02-10 05:31:04 PM  

Callous: Quite sorry, I somehow confused the two of you..


I have that issue, I need to change one of them to a different version of dipshiat grey.
 
2014-02-10 05:33:16 PM  

Nutsac_Jim: One of you came up and said that we cant have any teacher with a gun in a safe, because what is going to happen when the teacher is frustrated that johnny isnt doing what they say and gave the finger shoot.


When I was in high school, one of my teachers had a .357 revolver he carried, as part of a program with the police to protect students.
Coincidentally, while he was there, there was never a school shooting. Might have been tiger-repelling rock, but the year after he left and they discontinued the program there was a shooting in the parking lot.
 
2014-02-10 05:36:18 PM  

Boojum2k: lennavan: We could refute his point but honestly we can't so we'll fling poo and hope no one notices the difference.

I could read the thread and find out you actually did that but honestly, I'd rather just imagine what's true and fling poo and hope no one notices the difference.


Your secret is safe with me dude.
 
2014-02-10 05:37:11 PM  

Boojum2k: lennavan: Right, the vast majority of people aren't sociopaths who would shoot someone as soon as they held a gun.

Exactly.

 lennavan: So we should allow unlimited access to guns everywhere.

Aww, and you were doing so well at learning. Two steps forward, three back.


Wait, so you're for restricted access to guns and restrictions on where guns can be carried?  Why the fark are we arguing then, that's all I'm saying.  All your derping at me made me assume you disagreed with me.
 
2014-02-10 05:38:57 PM  
If he was arrested for it, sounds like the law worked as advertised
 
2014-02-10 05:39:27 PM  

lennavan: Callous: lennavan: Callous: I was referring to that crap about us advocating the arming of minors because we didn't proactively deny it.

How did you feel about the post I was responding to that claimed a gun is the ONLY way to resist or fight back? Did you feel that was "crap" too? Or was that legit?

It's not the only way.

So it was stupid, I agree.  Would you suggest perhaps, so stupid it's worthy of mockery?  Great, now re-read the stupid that he posted:

Mell of a Hess: they notify people who wish to do harm to others that, if they're carrying a gun in a gun free zone, then they should not fear any immediate reprisal or resistance?

Hah, yeah that was really goddamn stupid.  We could refute his point but honestly, someone posting something that fundamentally stupid isn't utilizing their brain, so we'd just be wasting our time.  I see no point in wasting time putting together a well thought out reply if he didn't even bother to spend 5 seconds formulating his original thought.  Let's just go with sarcastic mockery:

lennavan: No, he had a good point. Before gun free zone laws, shooters went into the pre-kindergarten rooms worried which one of those toddlers might be packing. Now, without a gun, there is literally no way to resist or fight back. Not a single way.

Haha toddlers packing heat.  Yeah, that Mell of a Hess guy had a stupid post.


Anyone who claims to know why mass shooters select their targets(except in specific cases where it is known) is speculating.  These people are crazy and trying to apply logic to their choices is non-productive.    I don't know that gun-free zones encourage mass shooters to target those locations, but they do offer a level of protection from resistance places that allow guns don't.  How often do you hear about a mass shooter being stopped by anyone but himself or the cops that eventually show up?

Not often.

To say that a gun onsite would definitely stop him is dishonest.  To say that a gun onsite would be worse for the victims is dishonest.  Too many variables.  One thing is for certain, someone shooting back would give the shooter something to concentrate on other than running up his body count.
 
2014-02-10 05:40:48 PM  
I want to ban things I am afraid of and don't understand.
 
2014-02-10 05:40:58 PM  

ikanreed: Callous: HotWingConspiracy:


What I really love is the people that biatch about these laws the most are the reason they were enacted in the first place.

Please explain.  Are you making the gun owners equivalent of the "all men are rapists because they have a penis" argument?

You are sounding more and more like you just have an irrational fear of guns and attribute all kinds of bad traits on anyone that owns one.

1.  You look like an idiot.  Disallowing guns on school grounds is about lowering a simple risk factor without pretending it'll stop the most driven school shootings.  If you've never been in a situation in high school where you'd escalate to shooting another student if you had a gun, you've never gone through puberty.

It's not farking complicated, and you guys are really dumb about it.


Wow.  That's seriously the most retarded thing I've ever read on Fark.  I don't know what kind of torture puberty was for you, but when I went through it, I never, ever thought about killing someone.  Oh, and PS, during the fall, my car, along with probably 100 or so others in the school parking lot, had at least a shotgun if not a shotgun and high powered rifle in it, as well as tons of ammunition for them.  Guess how many kids at my school were killed by guns before they turned them in to gun free zones?
 
2014-02-10 05:43:06 PM  

Boojum2k: Nutsac_Jim: One of you came up and said that we cant have any teacher with a gun in a safe, because what is going to happen when the teacher is frustrated that johnny isnt doing what they say and gave the finger shoot.

When I was in high school, one of my teachers had a .357 revolver he carried, as part of a program with the police to protect students.
Coincidentally, while he was there, there was never a school shooting. Might have been tiger-repelling rock, but the year after he left and they discontinued the program there was a shooting in the parking lot.


On December 13, 2012, you could have made the same post about Nancy Lanza.  Legal gun owner, legally using a gun to do legal stuff, definitely not a victim of crime.  What could go wrong?
 
2014-02-10 05:44:49 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: If he was arrested for it, sounds like the law worked as advertised


Yes, a man that harmed absolutely no one will now spend time in jail so that others can maintain their mythical feelings of safety.

Makes complete sense.

At least he will have time to think about the idiocy of the law that he supported.
 
2014-02-10 05:46:12 PM  

Callous: At least he will have time to think about the idiocy irony of the law that he supported.


FTFY
 
2014-02-10 05:48:36 PM  

lennavan: Boojum2k: Nutsac_Jim: One of you came up and said that we cant have any teacher with a gun in a safe, because what is going to happen when the teacher is frustrated that johnny isnt doing what they say and gave the finger shoot.

When I was in high school, one of my teachers had a .357 revolver he carried, as part of a program with the police to protect students.
Coincidentally, while he was there, there was never a school shooting. Might have been tiger-repelling rock, but the year after he left and they discontinued the program there was a shooting in the parking lot.

On December 13, 2012, you could have made the same post about Nancy Lanza.  Legal gun owner, legally using a gun to do legal stuff, definitely not a victim of crime.  What could go wrong?


So you wanna blame the victim?  You are aware that he robbed and murdered her right?
 
2014-02-10 05:50:59 PM  

Callous: Anyone who claims to know why mass shooters select their targets(except in specific cases where it is known) is speculating.


So what you are saying is anyone who claims to know that mass shooters select their targets because they are gun free zones is speculating and has no basis to make that claim?  Like when I made fun of this post that did exactly that?

Mell of a Hess: If by that you mean that they notify people who wish to do harm to others that, if they're carrying a gun in a gun free zone, then they should not fear any immediate reprisal or resistance?


You and I completely agree Callous.  It's okay, you can agree this Mell of a Hess post is really farking stupid.  Just because I'm for some gun control measures and presumably since you're disagreeing with me you're for no gun control measures, doesn't mean I suddenly win the argument and Obama shows up at your house to take your guns away.  It's fully possible to agree someone on your side is an idiot.

I bet you're also for gun control measures.  So far in this thread, at most I have suggested carrying guns in an elementary school is a bad idea and that only applies to non LEOs.  Whatever you think about me and my position in your head, that's all I have advocated in this thread.  So you need to take a step back and figure out how the fark you got the picture of me in your head when that's all I'm arguing here.  Well that and the occasional mockery of stupid arguments.

I would farking hope you and I can at least agree, who knows what we should to about gun control but whatever we do, we shouldn't be supporting our arguments with blog posts like this guy:

lennavan: Mell of a Hess: Here, I stole this from someone, to refute your "awkward" post:

...
This is a blog dedicated to academically refuting pro-gun myths, and providing a scholarly defense of gun .

 
2014-02-10 05:54:40 PM  

Callous: lennavan: Boojum2k: Nutsac_Jim: One of you came up and said that we cant have any teacher with a gun in a safe, because what is going to happen when the teacher is frustrated that johnny isnt doing what they say and gave the finger shoot.

When I was in high school, one of my teachers had a .357 revolver he carried, as part of a program with the police to protect students.
Coincidentally, while he was there, there was never a school shooting. Might have been tiger-repelling rock, but the year after he left and they discontinued the program there was a shooting in the parking lot.

On December 13, 2012, you could have made the same post about Nancy Lanza.  Legal gun owner, legally using a gun to do legal stuff, definitely not a victim of crime.  What could go wrong?

So you wanna blame the victim?  You are aware that he robbed and murdered her right?


Are you suggesting it's possible a legal gun owner might have their gun taken away and used for nefarious purposes?  Kinda makes you re-think that high school teacher who carried while at the High School then, doesn't it?
 
2014-02-10 05:55:58 PM  

lennavan: I know you are but what am I


Seriously, dude, I read the thread. You're a strawman-toting derper and I called you out for it. Own it, it's yours.

lennavan: so you're for restricted access to guns and restrictions on where guns can be carried?


Yep. Allowing a teacher with certification to carry in a public school would provide more protection. Allowing parents who are legal gun owners with CCP's to carry when coming to drop off or pick up their kids would provide more protection. Requiring gun safety to be taught in schools would be a good plan, too.

lennavan: On December 13, 2012, you could have made the same post about Nancy Lanza. Legal gun owner, legally using a gun to do legal stuff, definitely not a victim of crime. What could go wrong?


She was killed by her own crazy son, who then went to school and had unrestricted access to shoot kids with no one available to stop him. An armed teacher might not have stopped him, but the unarmed ones definitely did not.
 
2014-02-10 05:57:52 PM  

Boojum2k: Seriously, dude, I read the thread. You're a strawman-toting derper and I called you out for it. Own it, it's yours.


I actually factually rebutted his claim later in the thread.  He countered with a blog.  Search the thread for the word "blog."
 
2014-02-10 05:59:15 PM  

lennavan: Are you suggesting it's possible a legal gun owner might have their gun taken away and used for nefarious purposes?


Considering it didn't happen, that's obviously not what was suggested. I'd have liked to see the poor lost soul who tried, though, Mr. biology teacher was a former Ranger.
Hey, there's a good idea. Encourage more prior-service types to take up teaching, they'll do a better job of communicating to children (quick, simple, and to the point is strongly encouraged in the military) and provide a better line of defense in case of lone, random, statistically unlikely school shooter.
 
2014-02-10 06:00:02 PM  

lennavan: actually factually rebutted his claim later in the thread


Nah, I read your rebuttal, it started with a strawman and beat the poor scarecrow to death without ever actually rebutting the point.
 
2014-02-10 06:00:17 PM  

ikanreed: AngryDragon: In fact, it's a felony in all 50 states for a minor to be in possession of a firearm.

Ha.  When you make things up, it makes it look like nutters who don't understand their own pet issue.  With parental permission, there is no state in which posessing a large firearm is illegal.  Taking them into a school, per this exact law we're defending, is a felony in every state, but that couldn't possibly be what you mean.


You're right.  I meant handgun.
 
2014-02-10 06:04:32 PM  

Draskuul: Same level of hypocrisy as Diane Feinstein, who presses to strip all gun rights from the citizens while she has her own concealed carry permit.


Ummmmmm no.  See law-maker status for one thing.  For the other, I bet that if she had gotten what she wanted when she started her efforts most of the guns used in mass-murders across the country would not have even been manufactured.  What hypocisy?

Most of the AR/AK rifles, over 10 cap. pistols  I see at crime scenes are 1990's and up manufacture.  These are the guns that she is primarily against.

Bubba/Jamal kills fewer people in polite society when he has less sophisticated weaponry.  Machetes work well in Rwanda, but in the US you need an AK to really let loose.
 
2014-02-10 06:04:58 PM  
Wait, again? Didn't he just have this happen a few days ago? I'm pretty sure we even had a thread about it.
 
2014-02-10 06:06:02 PM  

lennavan: Boojum2k: Seriously, dude, I read the thread. You're a strawman-toting derper and I called you out for it. Own it, it's yours.

I actually factually rebutted his claim later in the thread.  He countered with a blog.  Search the thread for the word "blog."


Except he never quoted the blog at all. And you might want to read a few words past where it says "This is a blog".
 
2014-02-10 06:06:48 PM  

lennavan: Callous: Anyone who claims to know why mass shooters select their targets(except in specific cases where it is known) is speculating.

So what you are saying is anyone who claims to know that mass shooters select their targets because they are gun free zones is speculating and has no basis to make that claim?  Like when I made fun of this post that did exactly that?

Mell of a Hess: If by that you mean that they notify people who wish to do harm to others that, if they're carrying a gun in a gun free zone, then they should not fear any immediate reprisal or resistance?

You and I completely agree Callous.  It's okay, you can agree this Mell of a Hess post is really farking stupid.  Just because I'm for some gun control measures and presumably since you're disagreeing with me you're for no gun control measures, doesn't mean I suddenly win the argument and Obama shows up at your house to take your guns away.  It's fully possible to agree someone on your side is an idiot.

I bet you're also for gun control measures.  So far in this thread, at most I have suggested carrying guns in an elementary school is a bad idea and that only applies to non LEOs.  Whatever you think about me and my position in your head, that's all I have advocated in this thread.  So you need to take a step back and figure out how the fark you got the picture of me in your head when that's all I'm arguing here.  Well that and the occasional mockery of stupid arguments.

I would farking hope you and I can at least agree, who knows what we should to about gun control but whatever we do, we shouldn't be supporting our arguments with blog posts like this guy:

lennavan: Mell of a Hess: Here, I stole this from someone, to refute your "awkward" post:

...
This is a blog dedicated to academically refuting pro-gun myths, and providing a scholarly defense of gun .


I agree with you that no one knows why they select their targets, except in cases where it's a kid shooting up his school, etc.  However HOM has a point in that gun free zones do provide a measure of resistance prevention.  I don't agree with him that we know it has any bearing on target selection.  Other than anecdotal evidence of so many of them occurring in such places.

I do agree with some gun restrictions.  No violent felons, crazies, etc.  As far as carrying in a school I think any one that has a permit to carry should be allowed to carry.  If you think there are teachers that are so unhinged that they would shoot a student for stupid reasons you should be actively fighting to have them no longer be teachers.
 
2014-02-10 06:07:54 PM  

Turbo Cojones: I bet that if she had gotten what she wanted when she started her efforts most of the guns used in mass-murders across the country would not have even been manufactured.


What would you bet? How about your right to vote? If her assault weapon ban would not have stopped mass shootings, would you give up your right to vote?

Turbo Cojones: See law-maker status for one thing.


Lawmaker is not an aristocrat.
 
2014-02-10 06:07:55 PM  

lennavan: Callous: lennavan: Boojum2k: Nutsac_Jim: One of you came up and said that we cant have any teacher with a gun in a safe, because what is going to happen when the teacher is frustrated that johnny isnt doing what they say and gave the finger shoot.

When I was in high school, one of my teachers had a .357 revolver he carried, as part of a program with the police to protect students.
Coincidentally, while he was there, there was never a school shooting. Might have been tiger-repelling rock, but the year after he left and they discontinued the program there was a shooting in the parking lot.

On December 13, 2012, you could have made the same post about Nancy Lanza.  Legal gun owner, legally using a gun to do legal stuff, definitely not a victim of crime.  What could go wrong?

So you wanna blame the victim?  You are aware that he robbed and murdered her right?

Are you suggesting it's possible a legal gun owner might have their gun taken away and used for nefarious purposes?  Kinda makes you re-think that high school teacher who carried while at the High School then, doesn't it?


She was in bed asleep when it happened.  I don't think the two are comparable.
 
2014-02-10 06:14:52 PM  
Ha.

This arrest proves we should allow guns on school grounds! How can you disagree when a local guy who argued to make guns illegal on school grounds later went on to carry a gun on school grounds?

Let me clarify: because a local guy who said we should criminalize possession of firearms on school grounds himself later went on to possess a firearm on school grounds, we should therefore permit possession of firearms on school grounds.

Logic. Suck it, libs.
 
2014-02-10 06:26:48 PM  

demaL-demaL-yeH: Sedition is still a felony.


Want to explain to the class why Randy Weaver was never even charged with Sedition?
 
2014-02-10 06:27:29 PM  

Boojum2k: lennavan: Are you suggesting it's possible a legal gun owner might have their gun taken away and used for nefarious purposes?

Considering it didn't happen, that's obviously not what was suggested. I'd have liked to see the poor lost soul who tried, though, Mr. biology teacher was a former Ranger.
Hey, there's a good idea. Encourage more prior-service types to take up teaching, they'll do a better job of communicating to children (quick, simple, and to the point is strongly encouraged in the military) and provide a better line of defense in case of lone, random, statistically unlikely school shooter.


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too many butthurt parents and lawsuits waiting to happen after their little snowflake comes home crying because the teacher yelled at them.
 
2014-02-10 06:29:17 PM  

russsssman: Add him to the long list of liberals who shouldn't have access to guns.


Well, if he is charged and convicted, he will now be a felon.  Looks like he will get a taste of gun confiscation first-hand.
 
2014-02-10 06:31:27 PM  

echomike23: too many butthurt parents and lawsuits waiting to happen after their little snowflake comes home crying because the teacher yelled at them.


Former Ranger teacher never yelled at us. He didn't need to.
 
2014-02-10 06:37:48 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: Mr. Eugenides: HotWingConspiracy: In this thread, dullards will employ bumper sticker wisdom to show the world they can't understand the utility of a gun free zone.

Surely you meant to type futility, not utility.

Nope. They work as intended.


Really? I'm pretty sure sandy book was a gun free zone.
 
2014-02-10 06:52:18 PM  
Okay, so, just to keep tabs, it's 4 gun nuts so far who've never gone through puberty.  Good to know.
 
2014-02-10 06:55:03 PM  

HeadLever: demaL-demaL-yeH: Sedition is still a felony.

Want to explain to the class why Randy Weaver was never even charged with Sedition?


I've never been charged with murder. Therefore, murder is no longer a felony.

Suck it, libs.
 
2014-02-10 07:20:48 PM  

Baz744: I've never been charged with murder.


Have you ever taken up arms against the US Government?

No?  OK get back in your Mom's basement.
 
2014-02-10 07:28:13 PM  
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2014-02-10 07:37:58 PM  
Wiberals, do as I say, not as I do.  Gun fwee zones pwotect ebbywon because we know cwiminals obey the waw.
 
2014-02-10 07:38:37 PM  

Baz744: HeadLever: demaL-demaL-yeH: Sedition is still a felony.

Want to explain to the class why Randy Weaver was never even charged with Sedition?

I've never been charged with murder. Therefore, murder is no longer a felony.

Suck it, libs.


I don't see Sonja unless you quote Sonja.
Please don't quote Sonja.
 
2014-02-10 07:46:27 PM  

ikanreed: Okay, so, just to keep tabs, it's 4 gun nuts so far who've never gone through puberty.  Good to know.


When did puberty involve wanting to kill people?
 
2014-02-10 07:50:10 PM  

EatenTheSun: ikanreed: Okay, so, just to keep tabs, it's 4 gun nuts so far who've never gone through puberty.  Good to know.

When did puberty involve wanting to kill people?


ikanreed and lennavan are pretty much self-identified sociopaths, and think everyone else is the same.
 
2014-02-10 07:52:43 PM  

Mean Daddy: Wiberals, do as I say, not as I do.  Gun fwee zones pwotect ebbywon because we know cwiminals obey the waw.


It's about time we abandon all pretenses and just treat public schools like little jails.  This means

- no weapons or sharp objects for the inmates
- guns for security guards only, if needed
- safety procedures for visitors no contraband is smuggled
- somewhat better food
 
2014-02-10 07:56:42 PM  

HeadLever: Baz744: I've never been charged with murder.

Have you ever taken up arms against the US Government?

No?  OK get back in your Mom's basement.


You're assuming Weaver's conduct met all the elements of the crime of sedition, if in fact it exists. The fact that he did something you think sounds like sedition in ordinary English doesn't mean he actually committed the crime of sedition as defined by law. Other matters could have prevented such a charging decision too. Maybe it required a specific state of mind the government didn't feel it could prove.

There was an outed troll awhile back named something like "violentacrze." He was excoriated by people for distributing "child pornography" because he was involved with Reddit's "Jailbait" thread. Yet violentacrze was never charged with possession of child pornography even though given the facts of the case of the government's case would have been a slam dunk. After all, he dealt in photographs of underaged girls for their prurient interest.

The problem was that the type of "Jailbait" photos he dealt in aren't actually illegal.

So, to make a better analog for your poor reasoning:

Violentacrze was never charged with child pornography. Therefore, child pornography is no longer a felony.

Now, take your c*ck out of your mom's "basement."
 
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