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(Some Guy)   Before you get the idea that Al Jazeera is a sane alternative to Fox News, MSNBC, and CNN, here's a translated article from its Arabic-language website denouncing evolution and praising Allah   (faisalalmutar.com) divider line 103
    More: Asinine, Al Jazeera Arabic, Arabic, MSNBC, civil engineers, scientific article, technological progress  
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2014-02-10 12:11:09 PM  
I thought is was well known that the English and the Islamic branches of Al Jazeera varied greatly.
 
2014-02-10 12:11:53 PM  
Link to the original article doesn't work--reverts to blank screen. The translation (which therefore can't be verified) is clearly not a news article but an Op-Ed piece written by someone (presumably an engineer) who is arguing for a teleological "watchmaker" argument for God's existence. The idea that a news website that would run op-ed pieces is not really interesting or surprising.

i.imgur.com   i.imgur.com

The issue is with news websites running op-ed material like "TERRORIST FIST JAB" and "OBAMA BABY MAMA" under the guise of "news." If Al-Jazeera or Fox or CNN or the Guardian wants to run op-ed pieces, I have no problem with that. What Submitter is doing is  problem though--its called "Poisoning The Well." Also, "Allah" is just the term "Al-Ilah" ("The Lord") in Arabic. Jews and Christians who pray in Arabic also pray to "Allah." Its not a name, its a title--but it does make a nice dog-whistle, right? If the TFA gets under your skin, go read some David Hume. Its not outrage-worthy.
 
2014-02-10 12:15:34 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: I thought is was well known that the English and the Islamic branches of Al Jazeera varied greatly.


Submitter's discursive undertone is clear: You gullible libulardos are taken in by the deceptive face of Al-Jazeera while the true bearded jihadist waits for his chance to anesthetize you and swallow you whole. Elizabeth Warren is an eggplant and both sides are plaid.

/qed
 
2014-02-10 12:19:14 PM  
So you post pictures of two Fox News contributors that are well known political pundits? Really Malkin? I'm not saying that Fox isn't right as all get out, but that was really poor choices for examples.
 
2014-02-10 12:20:41 PM  

Somacandra: The Stealth Hippopotamus: I thought is was well known that the English and the Islamic branches of Al Jazeera varied greatly.

Submitter's discursive undertone is clear: You gullible libulardos are taken in by the deceptive face of Al-Jazeera while the true bearded jihadist waits for his chance to anesthetize you and swallow you whole. Elizabeth Warren is an eggplant and both sides are plaid.

/qed


Oh did you hear a dog whistle too?
 
2014-02-10 12:24:56 PM  
It was written by an engineer.
 
2014-02-10 12:27:07 PM  
I got the al- jazeera link and had Google translate it for me.  The translation on the blog is accurate.  More interesting to me though are the comments.  A lot of them are pro evolution.
 
2014-02-10 12:30:18 PM  
With all due respect to you, Mr. Fida Yasser soldier But unlike the title of your article (Darwin's theory proven false), you did not prove invalidity absolutely did not say how and when proven false Only you offered your thoughts and couches personal philosophical what income concrete SUBJECT O cultured, will remain the theory of evolution theory It is a basic scientific closest to the logic of all other theories, superstition, believe me, genetic engineering is different from civil engineering.

 Google translates like balls, but I'm liking these commenters.
 
2014-02-10 12:30:23 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: So you post pictures of two Fox News contributors that are well known political pundits? Really Malkin? I'm not saying that Fox isn't right as all get out, but that was really poor choices for examples.


Nope. E.D Hill was a "news anchor." She had to apologize for saying that to keep up appearances. Malkin was being interviewed. She never said that phrase. That was Fox's graphics department, which also ended up apologizing.
 
2014-02-10 01:16:29 PM  
Wait, evolution is viewed as good by Fox?

I'll keep watching my French news thank you. Nice hot chick who's name escapes me. At work and I can't search for her. Perhaps a fellow farker can help
 
2014-02-10 01:17:47 PM  
So vote Republican?
 
2014-02-10 01:18:01 PM  

Blues_X: It was written by an engineer.


Godammitsomuch.  Why do so many engineers have to be such self-assured idiots when it comes to science, especially climate change or evolution?
 
2014-02-10 01:18:19 PM  

Somacandra: The Stealth Hippopotamus: So you post pictures of two Fox News contributors that are well known political pundits? Really Malkin? I'm not saying that Fox isn't right as all get out, but that was really poor choices for examples.

Nope. E.D Hill was a "news anchor." She had to apologize for saying that to keep up appearances. Malkin was being interviewed. She never said that phrase. That was Fox's graphics department, which also ended up apologizing.


Yeah, I never understood the whole "interviewing pundants to give them the opportunity to spill their opinions", angle that Fox News takes. If it was an occasional thing I would understand, but its pretty much every news story includes an opinion spin interview with it.
 
2014-02-10 01:19:13 PM  

macross87: Wait, evolution is viewed as good by Fox?

I'll keep watching my French news thank you. Nice hot chick who's name escapes me. At work and I can't search for her. Perhaps a fellow farker can help


Nice hot chick on French news? Really narrowing it down there buddy.
 
2014-02-10 01:21:40 PM  
Alright, who let the Tea Party write arabic articles...
 
2014-02-10 01:23:14 PM  

macross87: Wait, evolution is viewed as good by Fox?

I'll keep watching my French news thank you. Nice hot chick who's name escapes me. At work and I can't search for her. Perhaps a fellow farker can help


Be nice if they started practicing what they preached.
 
2014-02-10 01:23:14 PM  
This means... something...
 
2014-02-10 01:23:57 PM  
If I wanted an alternative news source that's not sucking the Fartbongo dick I'm watching RT
 
2014-02-10 01:24:00 PM  
Looks like people who read al-Jazeera are just as retarded as people from the US midwest and south.  I guess being a dumbf**k is a world wide phenomenon.
 
2014-02-10 01:25:26 PM  
Mélissa Theuriau

farm1.staticflickr.com
 
2014-02-10 01:28:48 PM  
So what? The Christian Science Monitor is a reliable news source, but I wouldn't go to them for medical advice.
 
2014-02-10 01:28:57 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: sucking the Fartbongo dick


What's your fascination with giving a man fellatio?
 
2014-02-10 01:29:34 PM  

Somacandra: She had to apologize for saying that to keep up appearances.


*looks at picture of E.D. Hill*

If so, she could've stood to start apologizing for things she said maybe five years earlier.
 
2014-02-10 01:29:51 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: If I wanted an alternative news source that's not sucking the Fartbongo dick I'm watching RT


Oh yeah, Russia Today isn't biased at all...

/rolls eyes
 
2014-02-10 01:30:30 PM  
After seeing the Bill Nye's debate against creationism, I got interested and thought so what does other religions think of evolutions and started Googing. A thread about Islam and evolution (basically) is quite interesting coming after that.

Lets begin here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_views_on_evolution

It is at least, w-a-y more accepting of evolution than Christianity.
 
2014-02-10 01:30:50 PM  

Princess Ryans Knickers: Alright, who let the Tea Party write arabic articles...


What?! We're talking about religious fundamentalists not afraid to use violence for their ultimate goal of destroying the U.S. economy and government at any costs!

What do Arabs have to do with this?
 
2014-02-10 01:31:37 PM  

Fart_Machine: Smeggy Smurf: sucking the Fartbongo dick

What's your fascination with giving a man fellatio?


Don't try to understand.  It's a Republican thing.
 
2014-02-10 01:32:14 PM  

macross87: Wait, evolution is viewed as good by Fox?

I'll keep watching my French news thank you. Nice hot chick who's name escapes me. At work and I can't search for her. Perhaps a fellow farker can help


You misspelled, "please turn this into a hot news anchor thread."

Also, expand your horizons beyond the French.  Esther Vaquero beats Melissa Theuriau any day of the week.
 
2014-02-10 01:33:04 PM  
I'd totally watch an Arabic "Growing Pains".
 
2014-02-10 01:34:03 PM  

Captain Dan: Mélissa Theuriau


Ah yes. Her pic was on a ton of scammy click here ads a couple years ago. I'll never for those eyes, or how big Enzyte made my Wang, lol
 
2014-02-10 01:34:12 PM  

mayIFark: After seeing the Bill Nye's debate against creationism, I got interested and thought so what does other religions think of evolutions and started Googing. A thread about Islam and evolution (basically) is quite interesting coming after that.

Lets begin here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_views_on_evolution

It is at least, w-a-y more accepting of evolution than ChristianityProtestantism.

 
2014-02-10 01:34:20 PM  

James!: With all due respect to you, Mr. Fida Yasser soldier But unlike the title of your article (Darwin's theory proven false), you did not prove invalidity absolutely did not say how and when proven false Only you offered your thoughts and couches personal philosophical what income concrete SUBJECT O cultured, will remain the theory of evolution theory It is a basic scientific closest to the logic of all other theories, superstition, believe me, genetic engineering is different from civil engineering.

 Google translates like balls, but I'm liking these commenters.


I wonder if the fact that it's on the Internet skews it a bit -- I'd imagine that in many countries that al Jazeera Arabic broadcasts in, Internet users skews younger, wealthier, and better educated.
 
2014-02-10 01:35:00 PM  

Geotpf: Smeggy Smurf: If I wanted an alternative news source that's not sucking the Fartbongo dick I'm watching RT

Oh yeah, Russia Today isn't biased at all...

/rolls eyes


When you know the bias you can filter out the bullshiat easily.

Pants full of macaroni!!: Fart_Machine: Smeggy Smurf: sucking the Fartbongo dick

What's your fascination with giving a man fellatio?

Don't try to understand.  It's a Republican thing.


If you think I'm a rapeublican you're a dumbass that's not been paying attention
 
2014-02-10 01:35:07 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: If I wanted an alternative news source that's not sucking the Fartbongo dick I'm watching RT


static2.businessinsider.com
 
2014-02-10 01:35:10 PM  

Somacandra: You gullible libulardos are taken in by the deceptive face of Al-Jazeera while the true bearded jihadist waits for his chance to anesthetize you and swallow you whole.


And then BAM! Sharia law.
 
2014-02-10 01:36:02 PM  

Pants full of macaroni!!: Fart_Machine: Smeggy Smurf: sucking the Fartbongo dick

What's your fascination with giving a man fellatio?

Don't try to understand.  It's a Republican thing.


Close... trying, denying, and condemning it is a Republican thing.
 
2014-02-10 01:38:38 PM  

mayIFark: It is at least, w-a-y more accepting of evolution than Christianity.


As far as Christianity goes, there are TONS of Christians that are a-ok with evolutionary theory. Take the Catholic church for example. So there's a billion evolution believers there. The episcopal/anglican church is also ok with it. I wouldn't doubt that the eastern churches are also probably ok with it.

The anti-evolution Christians are the ultra-fundie ones.
 
2014-02-10 01:39:56 PM  

Arkanaut: Somacandra: You gullible libulardos are taken in by the deceptive face of Al-Jazeera while the true bearded jihadist waits for his chance to anesthetize you and swallow you whole.

And then BAM! Sharia law.


Shoved down our throats even.
 
2014-02-10 01:40:32 PM  
 
2014-02-10 01:41:49 PM  
step 1. Start a blog called "The Real Merkin"

step 2. publish translated uncredited Al Jazeera articles

step 3. prophet
 
2014-02-10 01:45:15 PM  
I think what annoys me more is that, at least so far as I've seen today, there are more greened links decrying Al Jazeera than links from AJ that have been greened.

/admits to being one who regularly submits AJ links
//at least when the damn things can be fetched.
 
2014-02-10 01:46:54 PM  
The simple fact that Al Jazeera is not FOX News automatically makes it superior to FOX News.
 
2014-02-10 01:48:34 PM  
So, Allah was created and not evolved?
 
2014-02-10 01:49:47 PM  
On a side note, I avoid Op/Eds like the plague anyway. At least AJ labels them as such, rather than constantly trying to pass them off as actual news like we get with the US new networks, especially Fox.
 
2014-02-10 01:50:05 PM  

Somacandra: Link to the original article doesn't work--reverts to blank screen. The translation (which therefore can't be verified) is clearly not a news article but an Op-Ed piece written by someone (presumably an engineer) who is arguing for a teleological "watchmaker" argument for God's existence. The idea that a news website that would run op-ed pieces is not really interesting or surprising.

[i.imgur.com image 320x240]   [i.imgur.com image 368x278]

The issue is with news websites running op-ed material like "TERRORIST FIST JAB" and "OBAMA BABY MAMA" under the guise of "news." If Al-Jazeera or Fox or CNN or the Guardian wants to run op-ed pieces, I have no problem with that. What Submitter is doing is  problem though--its called "Poisoning The Well." Also, "Allah" is just the term "Al-Ilah" ("The Lord") in Arabic. Jews and Christians who pray in Arabic also pray to "Allah." Its not a name, its a title--but it does make a nice dog-whistle, right? If the TFA gets under your skin, go read some David Hume. Its not outrage-worthy.


Engineers and coders really ought not think themselves any more competent to comment on science than any run-of-the-mill tiny-town Baptist minister. They have no more real exposure to science as it is done vs. some kind of bizarre caricature of science (and I include the "pro-science" groupies in this).
 
2014-02-10 01:50:26 PM  
Uh, Subby, you read the Op-Ed article that was blatantly anti-semetic? Their op-eds are insane. That doesn't change that their actual news is well-researched and displayed in an intelligent format.
 
2014-02-10 01:52:03 PM  

ikanreed: Blues_X: It was written by an engineer.

Godammitsomuch.  Why do so many engineers have to be such self-assured idiots when it comes to science, especially climate change or evolution?



They've solved a few equations, so they can solve anything.
 
2014-02-10 01:52:40 PM  
I'm not really seeing the outrage. The paper in my hometown publishes ARTICLES that praise god and denounce evolution. Fox has shows on for half the day that do the same. An op-ed is child's play. I am unimpressed
 
2014-02-10 01:55:40 PM  
Why haven't white people apologized for Fox News? We should ban all white people from government until we receive a satisfactory apology
 
2014-02-10 01:55:43 PM  
Actually subby, I gave up on Al-Jezeera because every single headline was obviously slanted so bleeding heart I was starting to worry about staining the carpets.

But please, do go on.
 
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