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2014-02-10 03:36:40 PM

Ow! That was my feelings!: Good example of why someone would need more than 7 or 10 or fill-in-the-blank arbitrary number of rounds. There can be more than one assailant.


According to at least one farker I recall, needing more than 6 shots means you're either a terrible shot or you should just accept that you're screwed and die.
 
2014-02-10 03:39:04 PM

MrSplifferton: Silly_Sot: How long before liberal outrage demands the resident be prosecuted for daring to have a firearm and use it in legitimate self-defense?

About as soon as your other fantasy of farking Amanda Knox happens.


dude. its california. about even odds they have already charged the homeowner, and at least 50-1 odds that the surviving gunshot recipient has already had lawyers offering to sponsor a suit against the homeowner.
 
2014-02-10 03:40:12 PM

onyxruby: cman: If only people were so rabidly pro-union as they are pro-second amendment we wouldn't have these robberies as often

Poverty begets crime. Drugs begets poverty. Misery begets drugs.

Some of us are pro union and pro gun. Quite a few more people than I think you realize. There are even people that support all 10 rights in the Bill of Rights.


amen brother.
 
2014-02-10 03:40:22 PM

crusher2: In my county, two guys saw their stolen golf cart on a trailer behind a pickup truck. They turned around, ran them down, shot the tires out, and held them until police arrived. Now THEY are being charged for firing into a vehicle. smh


reneedezvous.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-02-10 03:40:28 PM
csb:

friend of mine was sitting in the cigar bar he runs part-time and fell asleep after hours.  Lights were off and the TV was going.  He's black and was wearing dark clothing(I'd passed by an hour earlier and tried to wake him up by knocking on the window ... no such luck) so he blended into his surroundings: dark furniture, dark paint on the walls.  Some idiot decided to break into the bar through a window.  The sound of breaking glass finally woke my friend up, so he stands up and moves to the window in question, through which a couple of display bottles of rum are being taken out.  Imagine the surprise of the thief in the bar when he turns around to find a 6 foot tall, 230 pound black ex-golden-glove boxer throwing a punch at him.  My friend played down the amount of damage he did to the burglar, but the guy was physically thrown out of the broken window by the damage my friend did to him.  No gun needed in this instance...

/csb

/the funny part is that the thieves got away with 3 bottles of ... wait for it ... water.
//the sad part is that the back of the building abuts the local police station
 
2014-02-10 03:42:59 PM
Pin a medal on the shooter! YES! Can we have our 2nd amendment rights back, People's Republic of Kalifornia? You know, I pay confiscatory taxes (over half), we have bad schools, crime, horrific cost of living and 0.01_percenters driving teslas all over in their reserveed special lane for special people, can I please have a firearm to defend myself in the anarchy you've created, PROK?
 
2014-02-10 03:43:41 PM

Anayalator: AngryDragon: Fail?  Did the big, bad gun scare you subby?

Homeowner should get a medal.

FAIL tag is for home invaders, your trolling.

I promise I've put more rounds down range than you and any two people you know combined.


Not more than me and any two people I know. I know plenty of Rangers, Green Berets, SWAT types and Marines :)
 
2014-02-10 03:44:31 PM
There is absolutely zero information in this article with regards to motive.  Before we go calling this guy a hero, I'd like to know the robbers motives, and why they chose this house.

If this was a random home invasion robbery, then kudos to dude.

If this was a case of invasion on a home, where the robbers knew this guy was keeping illicit drugs/cash/stolen goods, then they're low life's all around.  I guess we can still give the shooter props because we're less one, but he wouldn't be some hero.

I'm willing to bet this wasn't random, and that something shady was going on with resident.
 
2014-02-10 03:45:02 PM

AngryDragon: COMALite J: Actually, the ACLU does indeed support all ten Amendments in the Bill of Rights. They just haven't had to take many cases involving quartering of soldiers in private homes in peacetime. As for the Second Amendment, they don't prioritize that only because there are other organizations such as the NRA that focus on that one, leaving them more resources to devote to the other nine. Were it not for the NRA, the ACLU would also be supporting the Right to Keep and Bear Arms in legal cases that they support

I really hate to burst your bubble.

"In striking down Washington D.C.'s handgun ban by a 5-4 vote, the Supreme Court's decision in  D.C. v. Heller held for the first time that the Second Amendment protects an individual's right to keep and bear arms, whether or not associated with a state militia. The ACLU disagrees with the Supreme Court's conclusion about the nature of the right protected by the Second Amendment.  "




Did you even read that link? what they wrote?

Given the reference to "a well regulated Militia" and "the security of a free State," the ACLU has long taken the position that the Second Amendment protects a collective right rather than an individual right. For seven decades, the Supreme Court's 1939 decision in United States v. Miller was widely understood to have endorsed that view. This position is currently under review and is being updated by the ACLU National Board in light of the U.S. Supreme Court decision in D.C. v. Heller in 2008.

The sad thing is, the ACLU is right on this issue. The Founding Fathers envisioned a country that had no standing Military. That the populace would form an army if one was required. An earlier Supreme Court Ruling said that it was a collective right, not a an individual right.

The Supreme Court decision wasn't Unanimous - it's the 5-4 politically charged split we've come to expect. All because five conservatives declared that a comma meant the Malitia part was an example, not the requirement that the framers intended.
 
2014-02-10 03:45:14 PM

iheartscotch: Got one, winged a second and the third got away; sounds like someone needs more range time or more/larger mags.

/ I've been looking at 10 round mags for my 1911; I'd have one, but, I hear bad things about the springs.


I've had VERY bad luck with them. Stick with eight or have a second gun
 
2014-02-10 03:45:32 PM

kindms: Kahabut: Anayalator: AngryDragon: Fail?  Did the big, bad gun scare you subby?

Homeowner should get a medal.

FAIL tag is for home invaders, your trolling.

I promise I've put more rounds down range than you and any two people you know combined.

That's an idiotic statement.  You can't possibly know that, and so it makes you just as stupid as him for saying.

If he can count me as someone he knows (which isn't really reasonable, but for the sake of argument), I've got not less than half a million rounds down range, and another 100k of ballshot from BPs.  I don't actually keep close count, so that's a ballpark based on how much ammunition I've purchased/loaded and what I have left right now.  This of course doesn't account for any ammo I didn't provide while shooting, which would be fairly substantial if we could figure the number.

To put that in perspective, my 30.06 is on it's second barrel.  It's hardly the only gun I shoot, its not even number 1.

question from a non-gun owner. When do you know it is time to replace the barrel ? Is it a noticeable always off by X or random grouping on the target etc ? or just I have fired x amount of ammo through this, time to replace ?

Honesty curious librul


I have no idea why "librul" has entered into this.  I'm about as liberal as it gets and don't see the connection to being a gun owner.

In any case, it can be noticed with a drop in accuracy, but by that point, you'e already farked up.  I scope my barrel on a regular basis, and I use a micrometer to measure it.  When it begins to get out of tolerance, the barrel becomes "spare parts for emergencies" and is replaced.  A high quality barrel that is well cared for will fire a great many rounds before this becomes an issue.  Typically on the 10's of thousands range.

For competition shooting, it's more like 5000.

Some barrels come with burn in marks.  Tiny grooves that when they are flush with the barrel material indicate wear and time for replacement, like with car tires.  I have used this method as well, but a micrometer is better in my opinion.

There may in fact be better ways, but I don't know about them.
 
2014-02-10 03:46:28 PM

zeio: Pin a medal on the shooter! YES! Can we have our 2nd amendment rights back, People's Republic of Kalifornia? You know, I pay confiscatory taxes (over half), we have bad schools, crime, horrific cost of living and 0.01_percenters driving teslas all over in their reserveed special lane for special people, can I please have a firearm to defend myself in the anarchy you've created, PROK?




Leave.
 
2014-02-10 03:49:17 PM

Boojum2k: Kahabut: The first doesn't specifically mention any form of media

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances

If it's not you talking unaided or using ink, it ain't covered, by your blackpowder analogy.

Look, you made the stupid statement. Let it go man, 1st rule of holes.


I made a joke.  You decided "the stupid statement" deserved debate so I gave it to you.  YAY content creation.

If you really want to make yourself out like winner, accuse me of something I've never done, and then call me names and attack my character.  Then you'll have the hat trick and I'll be forced to cry in the corner.

/you need a new sarcasm detector
 
2014-02-10 03:49:39 PM

JesseL: Ow! That was my feelings!: Good example of why someone would need more than 7 or 10 or fill-in-the-blank arbitrary number of rounds. There can be more than one assailant.

According to at least one farker I recall, needing more than 6 shots means you're either a terrible shot or you should just accept that you're screwed and die.



Well, in all fairness to the homeowner/shooter, the first one in may have compromised his aim at the remaining two.
 
2014-02-10 03:50:56 PM

anuran: iheartscotch: Got one, winged a second and the third got away; sounds like someone needs more range time or more/larger mags.

/ I've been looking at 10 round mags for my 1911; I'd have one, but, I hear bad things about the springs.

I've had VERY bad luck with them. Stick with eight or have a second gun


This. I have a classic 1911a1 for nostalgia purposes, but I have a gun designed within the last century for actual carry use. One actually -built- for concealed carry use for that matter. No matter how you mod it, the 1911 was simply never designed for CCW or anything even remotely close.
 
2014-02-10 03:52:02 PM

JesseL: Ow! That was my feelings!: Good example of why someone would need more than 7 or 10 or fill-in-the-blank arbitrary number of rounds. There can be more than one assailant.

According to at least one farker I recall, needing more than 6 shots means you're either a terrible shot or you should just accept that you're screwed and die.


You're not safe unless you have a belt-fed weapon with thousands rounds.  Cuz ya never know when you'll be attacked by a Mongolian horde.
 
2014-02-10 03:52:32 PM

Kahabut: kindms: Kahabut: Anayalator: AngryDragon: Fail?  Did the big, bad gun scare you subby?

Homeowner should get a medal.

FAIL tag is for home invaders, your trolling.

I promise I've put more rounds down range than you and any two people you know combined.

That's an idiotic statement.  You can't possibly know that, and so it makes you just as stupid as him for saying.

If he can count me as someone he knows (which isn't really reasonable, but for the sake of argument), I've got not less than half a million rounds down range, and another 100k of ballshot from BPs.  I don't actually keep close count, so that's a ballpark based on how much ammunition I've purchased/loaded and what I have left right now.  This of course doesn't account for any ammo I didn't provide while shooting, which would be fairly substantial if we could figure the number.

To put that in perspective, my 30.06 is on it's second barrel.  It's hardly the only gun I shoot, its not even number 1.

question from a non-gun owner. When do you know it is time to replace the barrel ? Is it a noticeable always off by X or random grouping on the target etc ? or just I have fired x amount of ammo through this, time to replace ?

Honesty curious librul

I have no idea why "librul" has entered into this.  I'm about as liberal as it gets and don't see the connection to being a gun owner.

In any case, it can be noticed with a drop in accuracy, but by that point, you'e already farked up.  I scope my barrel on a regular basis, and I use a micrometer to measure it.  When it begins to get out of tolerance, the barrel becomes "spare parts for emergencies" and is replaced.  A high quality barrel that is well cared for will fire a great many rounds before this becomes an issue.  Typically on the 10's of thousands range.

For competition shooting, it's more like 5000.

Some barrels come with burn in marks.  Tiny grooves that when they are flush with the barrel material indicate wear and time for replacement, like with car ...


You can use bore gauges, too, to measure wear.  Crown, throat, bore, sometimes it's easier just to replace something at X number of rounds.
 
2014-02-10 03:56:40 PM
http://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/Man-knew-home-invasion-suspect-he - killed-5221443.php

"A Hayward resident who shot and killed a home-invasion robber Sunday evening knew the suspect and had been the victim of a similar attack four months ago, police officials said Monday."

"The latest incident happened at a single-family, two-bedroom home ...  The resident, who lives in an attached structure on the property"


a) The resident knows the dead man
b) The resident ... lives in "an attached structure" of a two-bedroom home? ...would that be the garage?
 
2014-02-10 03:56:59 PM

Kahabut: I made a joke.


Poe's Law. Keep in mind your statement has also been made by a whole lot of the gun-fearing types here on Fark unironically.
 
2014-02-10 03:58:04 PM

cman: Whatchoo Talkinbout: cman: Whatchoo Talkinbout: cman: If only people were so rabidly pro-union as they are pro-second amendment we wouldn't have these robberies as often

Poverty begets crime. Drugs begets poverty. Misery begets drugs.

Troller Puh-leez.

Oh look, a newb

And still spotted you.

I wasn't trolling, newb


Shoulda been Stoob.
 
2014-02-10 03:59:26 PM

DarwinianReject: Silly_Sot: How long before liberal outrage demands the resident be prosecuted for daring to have a firearm and use it in legitimate self-defense?

That part usually comes right after the "he-was-a-good-kid-and-was-turning-his-life-around" sob story from the parents of the recently departed.


Aspiring rapper... they are ALWAYS an aspiring rapper....
 
2014-02-10 04:02:42 PM

spicorama: Aspiring rapper... they are ALWAYS an aspiring rapper....


Eh. Rap and hip-hop are oversaturated with talent now.
 
2014-02-10 04:02:53 PM

DarkVader: craigdamage: ....again, this happened in the Bay Area. There are strict anti-gun ordinances in San Francisco.

I seem to recall that homeowners are NOT allowed to have handguns. (I don't know if a pistol was used in this story)


http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Municipalities-can-t-ban-peopl e- from-owning-3298553.php

So nope.


As I recall, a number of firearm-opposing individuals were quite butthurt when their Proposition H was taken away.
 
2014-02-10 04:03:29 PM
I've been enjoying this thread so far. Popcorn?
 
2014-02-10 04:04:50 PM

Dimensio: DarkVader: craigdamage: ....again, this happened in the Bay Area. There are strict anti-gun ordinances in San Francisco.

I seem to recall that homeowners are NOT allowed to have handguns. (I don't know if a pistol was used in this story)


http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Municipalities-can-t-ban-peopl e- from-owning-3298553.php

So nope.

As I recall, a number of firearm-opposing individuals were quite butthurt when their Proposition H was taken away.


It is a crime that I can only click Funny once.
 
2014-02-10 04:05:27 PM

Boojum2k: spicorama: Aspiring rapper... they are ALWAYS an aspiring rapper....

Eh. Rap and hip-hop are oversaturated with talent now.


what?? surely the shooting VICTIM would have made it big if the home owner wouldnt have killed him...family will sue for that un-earned revenue in civil court
 
2014-02-10 04:05:37 PM

spicorama: DarwinianReject: Silly_Sot: How long before liberal outrage demands the resident be prosecuted for daring to have a firearm and use it in legitimate self-defense?

That part usually comes right after the "he-was-a-good-kid-and-was-turning-his-life-around" sob story from the parents of the recently departed.

Aspiring rapper... they are ALWAYS an aspiring rapper....


assets.diylol.com
 
2014-02-10 04:06:24 PM

StopLurkListen: b) The resident ... lives in "an attached structure" of a two-bedroom home? ...would that be the garage?


It's very, very common for rich Asian people in this area to create a separate studio apartment attached to the house for the grandparents to live in in their old age.  (I'm guessing there's a name for this, but I don't know what it is).

Then when the grandparents die/parents move out, they board up the door, and offer it up for rent on Craigslist.

/Seriously, while raising property taxes along with values has it's own set of issues, maybe if we did that, we could get a consensus on building more housing in the Valley.  Because once you get the density, then you could lay down some actual transit, and suddenly, SJ is a modern city.  But the Valley's just too big for effective transit, especially at current densities.
 
2014-02-10 04:09:24 PM

Boojum2k: Kahabut: I made a joke.

Poe's Law. Keep in mind your statement has also been made by a whole lot of the gun-fearing types here on Fark unironically.


Fair enough.
 
2014-02-10 04:10:35 PM
http://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/4-teens-arrested-in-Oakland-home- i nvasion-5221816.php

Related news, 4 teens have been arrested in connection with a home invasion robbery in which an elderly woman was shot (she lived).

It's too easy for criminals to get illegal guns, what's the solution? I don't think everyone should have guns. Too many kids have accidents with guns in the home.
 
2014-02-10 04:13:30 PM
For hunting vermin inside the home ... my fav ...

i299.photobucket.com
 
2014-02-10 04:13:31 PM

StopLurkListen: It's too easy for criminals to get illegal guns, what's the solution? I don't think everyone should have guns. Too many kids have accidents with guns in the home.


Start with early education. Teach kids gun safety so they know it like their ABC's.
 
2014-02-10 04:18:57 PM

kindms: kindms: Kahabut: Anayalator: AngryDragon: Fail?  Did the big, bad gun scare you subby?

Homeowner should get a medal.

FAIL tag is for home invaders, your trolling.

I promise I've put more rounds down range than you and any two people you know combined.

That's an idiotic statement.  You can't possibly know that, and so it makes you just as stupid as him for saying.

If he can count me as someone he knows (which isn't really reasonable, but for the sake of argument), I've got not less than half a million rounds down range, and another 100k of ballshot from BPs.  I don't actually keep close count, so that's a ballpark based on how much ammunition I've purchased/loaded and what I have left right now.  This of course doesn't account for any ammo I didn't provide while shooting, which would be fairly substantial if we could figure the number.

To put that in perspective, my 30.06 is on it's second barrel.  It's hardly the only gun I shoot, its not even number 1.

question from a non-gun owner. When do you know it is time to replace the barrel ? Is it a noticeable always off by X or random grouping on the target etc ? or just I have fired x amount of ammo through this, time to replace ?

Honesty curious librul


Pretty much everyone who even gives replacing a barrel on a rifle a second thought is either a target shooter or has OCD but i repeat myself. A bad barrel shows itself in a steady drop in precision but barrels last a long long time, I've never known anyone to replace one because it has worn out. All of the barrel replacements I've seen done were for a higher quality ( more precise ) barrel or because of accidental damage.
 
2014-02-10 04:19:41 PM

Ivan the Tolerable: No matter how you mod it, the 1911 was simply never designed for CCW or anything even remotely close.


They may not have been designed with concealed carry in mind, but with a decent holster they aren't that difficult to conceal. Personally, I find that with my preferred CC (IWB, small of the back), the width of a gun is more of a factor than overall length, meaning a thinner single stack full size handgun is often easier to conceal than anything else.

Having said that, my carry piece is a Sig P226.
 
2014-02-10 04:21:54 PM

guestguy: spicorama: DarwinianReject: Silly_Sot: How long before liberal outrage demands the resident be prosecuted for daring to have a firearm and use it in legitimate self-defense?

That part usually comes right after the "he-was-a-good-kid-and-was-turning-his-life-around" sob story from the parents of the recently departed.

Aspiring rapper... they are ALWAYS an aspiring rapper....

[assets.diylol.com image 510x385]


So you are saying there are no white rappers? :)

People from that low socio-economic level have few options to make it big...  its either hip-hop/rap/etc "artists", sports or drugs.
 
2014-02-10 04:22:14 PM
Seems like a good thread to ask, do they sell a gun-shaped fleshlight?
 
2014-02-10 04:29:26 PM

Mentalpatient87: Seems like a good thread to ask, do they sell a gun-shaped fleshlight?


Objection.  Leading the witness.
/Yes.  it's the size of a .22
 
2014-02-10 04:29:42 PM

Darth_Lukecash: Did you even read that link? what they wrote?

Given the reference to "a well regulated Militia" and "the security of a free State," the ACLU has long taken the position that the Second Amendment protects a collective right rather than an individual right. For seven decades, the Supreme Court's 1939 decision in United States v. Miller was widely understood to have endorsed that view. This position is currently under review and is being updated by the ACLU National Board in light of the U.S. Supreme Court decision in D.C. v. Heller in 2008.

The sad thing is, the ACLU is right on this issue. The Founding Fathers envisioned a country that had no standing Military. That the populace would form an army if one was required. An earlier Supreme Court Ruling said that it was a collective right, not a an individual right.

The Supreme Court decision wasn't Unanimous - it's the 5-4 politically charged split we've come to expect. All because five conservatives declared that a comma meant the Malitia part was an example, not the requirement that the framers intended


Yes I did read it.  SCOTUS' interpretation immediately becomes law of the land.  Period.  It's been 6 years.  How long do they need to debate it?  They are not right because there is now Supreme Court precedent.  It doesn't matter what the split was the decision has been made.
 
2014-02-10 04:30:42 PM

Darth_Lukecash: Leave


On the way out. Hasta la vista.
 
2014-02-10 04:32:27 PM

COMALite J: ACLU would also be supporting the Right to Keep and Bear Arms in legal cases that they support..


HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA. Liberalism IS a mental disorder.
 
2014-02-10 04:34:04 PM

Road Rash: collective right


There are no collective rights. no one. nowhere else. and SHALL NOT seems to have a clear meaning everywhere else as well. People really should just read the thing with a side measure of federalist papers if plain english isnt your thing.
 
2014-02-10 04:34:52 PM

thamike: onyxruby: Galloping Galoshes: onyxruby: There are even people that support all 10 rights in the Bill of Rights.

Too bad not enough sit on the Supreme Court.

I couldn't agree more.

[scienceblogs.com image 400x455]


Rights are so stupid. Like totally. yeah, raleigh, yah! so totally dumb and stuff.
 
2014-02-10 04:34:54 PM

Boojum2k: StopLurkListen: It's too easy for criminals to get illegal guns, what's the solution? I don't think everyone should have guns. Too many kids have accidents with guns in the home.

Start with early education. Teach kids gun safety so they know it like their ABC's.


Do you have kids? Everyone makes mistakes. Even adults make mistakes. Adults that are in law-enforcement make mistakes. Adults in law-enforcement that teach firearm safety make mistakes. Kids are an order of magnitude more forgetful and more oblivious and more prone to 'magical-thinking' than adults.

You can teach kids firearm safety at the range, but a gun at home, where they could have unlimited access at any time ... and friends who might not have had the same training ... Gun locks, gun safes reduce but don't prevent everything.
 
2014-02-10 04:35:51 PM

Mentalpatient87: Seems like a good thread to ask, do they sell a gun-shaped fleshlight?


No need.  Regular guns work just fine for those inclined.
 
2014-02-10 04:38:23 PM
There I Was:

Referendum restricting handguns was passed in 2005 but was struck down by courts before it could go into effect.  As an added bonus, the city of San Francisco was compelled to pay $380,000 to the NRA and other plaintiffs to cover their costs of litigating Proposition H.

Ineffective balm for assholes costs the city a lot of money. Who knew?
 
2014-02-10 04:39:36 PM

StopLurkListen: Gun locks, gun safes reduce but don't prevent everything.


The perfect is the enemy of the good. A child currently is twice as likely to be hit by lightning than be killed by a firearm. Teaching gun safety would reduce that even further, and is far better than not teaching it.
 
2014-02-10 04:41:59 PM

Darth_Lukecash: The sad thing is, the ACLU is right on this issue.


Rights are by their nature a property of individuals. The concept of a "collective" right is nonsensical. The ACLU is, therefore, incorrect.
 
2014-02-10 04:43:27 PM

Boojum2k: JesseL: unabashed and fully licensed merchant of death

I've been out of the gun habit for years, considering getting one for range time. I was very comfortable with the Beretta 92F/M9, I see the 96 is in .40 which is what most of my friends fire (so we can split ammo costs), but is it otherwise the same feel?


Absolutely despise the Beretta 92. The weird three-stage trigger pull is an acquired taste not worth acquiring. The skeletonized slide was designed to keep crap out but just lets it get in. My wife - who achieved Zen with the supposedly too big for women 1911 - pull her shots horribly to the left. But that's just how it happened to work for us.

There are plenty of good .40s out there. Glock, Kahr, Sig, so on and so forth. Go to a good gun store or a range that has a bunch of different firearms for rent. Pick up lots of them. Find the one that fits YOUR hand comfortably and shoots well for YOU.
 
2014-02-10 04:46:22 PM

spicorama: guestguy: spicorama: DarwinianReject: Silly_Sot: How long before liberal outrage demands the resident be prosecuted for daring to have a firearm and use it in legitimate self-defense?

That part usually comes right after the "he-was-a-good-kid-and-was-turning-his-life-around" sob story from the parents of the recently departed.

Aspiring rapper... they are ALWAYS an aspiring rapper....

[assets.diylol.com image 510x385]

So you are saying there are no white rappers? :)

People from that low socio-economic level have few options to make it big...  its either hip-hop/rap/etc "artists", sports or drugs.


Hehe, touche :P
 
2014-02-10 04:46:24 PM
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