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2014-02-10 02:33:47 PM  

super_grass: DRINK


Please do.  This political sh*twave is what separates normal people who have guns and people like you who live in a hypothetical nethersphere.
 
2014-02-10 02:34:12 PM  
Don't do the crime if you can't dodge bullets.
 
2014-02-10 02:34:26 PM  

Galloping Galoshes: Here, let me help you a bit.


You couldn't possibly.
 
2014-02-10 02:34:29 PM  

devilEther: Pic of the suspects who escaped


Jesus H. Christ, that farking movie was awful. I don't care what kind of point Haneke was trying to make. When you break the fourth wall like that and your only explanation is "fark you, that's why," you fail as a filmmaker.

/first movie I watched from Haneke
//also last
 
2014-02-10 02:34:31 PM  

JesseL: crusher2: In my county, two guys saw their stolen golf cart on a trailer behind a pickup truck. They turned around, ran them down, shot the tires out, and held them until police arrived. Now THEY are being charged for firing into a vehicle. smh

Good. That kind of idiot behavior that endangers tons of uninvolved people in the name of recovering a stolen golf cart is absolutely beyond the pale. Those guys deserve serious prison time.

There are plenty of things they could have done that would have seen their property recovered and the thieves caught without doing anything as reckless as shooting between moving vehicles.


Agree with the endangerment of others, not cool. However, if you are going to commit a crime against someone (theft, assault, etc..) you have to be prepared to suffer the consequences. Those consequences don't necessarily stop at jail time.

Kind of like fooling around with your neighbors wife. He could approve, he could join in, or he could go all stabby on you. The risks you take..
 
2014-02-10 02:35:26 PM  
CSB

in college my roommates were victims of a home invasion. My friend was sitting in the living room watching tv when a guy just walked in through the backdoor unheard came up behind my roommate and put a gun to his head. My other roommate eventually came downstairs and was told to get on the floor don't move etc. After like 30 min my roommates said it was clear the guy was mentally ill ( maybe schizo? ) and extremely paranoid. They convinced him his only hope was leaving and even opened the door for him. As soon as the gunman walked outside they slammed the door and hit the deadbolt. Right then I walked in from class through the front door. They yelled at me and I slammed the front door and locked it. Called the cops and they caught the guy a few blocks over in a field. We lived in a duplex in a very family oriented neighborhood, heh the gunman just happened to walk into a duplex filled with college students. Had it been one with a poor hysterical mom and small kids it could have turned out really bad.

We got a nice writeup in our school newspaper and figured it was good for getting us laid but never happened :(
 
2014-02-10 02:35:30 PM  

super_grass: thamike: Frank N Stein: thamike: JesseL: Hardly anyone really wants to kill anyone in self defense.

Hardly.

8 months later, still butthurt.

Jesus Christ, you guys are f*cked up.

Your concern is noted.


OK.
 
2014-02-10 02:35:32 PM  

thamike: super_grass: DRINK

Please do.  This political sh*twave is what separates normal people who have guns and people like you who live in a hypothetical nethersphere.


i290.photobucket.com
 
2014-02-10 02:35:35 PM  

cman: If only people were so rabidly pro-union as they are pro-second amendment we wouldn't have these robberies as often

Poverty begets crime. Drugs begets poverty. Misery begets drugs.


How does giving part of your paycheck to a corrupt union boss in exchange for 15 cent an hour more on Sundays help prevent poverty? Or are you referring to unions "back in the day"?
 
2014-02-10 02:35:37 PM  

AugieDoggyDaddy: Isn't 5:28 an odd time for a home invasion?


I can't remember where I saw it, but I remember seeing/reading quite some time back an interview with a couple ex-burglars, and they both liked to hit homes at dinner time. Their logic was that while everyone was occupied at the table they had the most assurance that they wouldn't be interrupted anywhere else in the house. How that works out these days I have no idea.

/One of the most amusing It Takes A Thief episodes IMHO is the one where he cleans a house out while the homeowner was still in her home office working.
 
2014-02-10 02:36:01 PM  
....again, this happened in the Bay Area. There are strict anti-gun ordinances in San Francisco.

I seem to recall that homeowners are NOT allowed to have handguns. (I don't know if a pistol was used in this story)

There are places in the USA where deadly force as defense will get your ass locked up.

Not trolling.
 
2014-02-10 02:37:55 PM  

umad: CanuckInCA: Silly_Sot: How long before liberal outrage demands the resident be prosecuted for daring to have a firearm and use it in legitimate self-defense?

I seriously doubt you'll see people advocating the prosecution of somebody defending themselves in a home invasion no matter how liberal they are, but please continue trolling...

I seriously doubt you have ever been in a "person shoots a home invader" thread before. They are usually filled with "your stuff isn't more valuable than my life! Herp!" and "Robbery isn't a capital crime! Derp!"


I've never seen a thread on fark about a home invasion where it was "filled" with those kinds of comments, this very thread though has several whiny people playing the victim in the way you are doing here. Based on that I'm gonna say this is all in your heads, brehs.
 
2014-02-10 02:37:56 PM  

craigdamage: I seem to recall that homeowners are NOT allowed to have handguns.


There is no way that laws like this would hold up post McDonald.
 
2014-02-10 02:38:05 PM  

Silly_Sot: How long before liberal outrage demands the resident be prosecuted for daring to have a firearm and use it in legitimate self-defense?


Do you have proof he was in danger?
 
2014-02-10 02:40:21 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: No, he needs more range time or a scattergun.  1 out of 3 isn't good enough


Though not confirmed, it's 2 out of 3 were shot; 1 was killed, and one was brought to the hospital with gunshot wounds.  She lived likely because of the gun control laws and how they always hurt women among other people who benefit from doing illegal alien minority things while the government tries to take my freedomballs.
 
2014-02-10 02:40:22 PM  

Theburner: JesseL: crusher2: In my county, two guys saw their stolen golf cart on a trailer behind a pickup truck. They turned around, ran them down, shot the tires out, and held them until police arrived. Now THEY are being charged for firing into a vehicle. smh

Good. That kind of idiot behavior that endangers tons of uninvolved people in the name of recovering a stolen golf cart is absolutely beyond the pale. Those guys deserve serious prison time.

There are plenty of things they could have done that would have seen their property recovered and the thieves caught without doing anything as reckless as shooting between moving vehicles.

Agree with the endangerment of others, not cool. However, if you are going to commit a crime against someone (theft, assault, etc..) you have to be prepared to suffer the consequences. Those consequences don't necessarily stop at jail time.

Kind of like fooling around with your neighbors wife. He could approve, he could join in, or he could go all stabby on you. The risks you take..


No disagreement here.

Victimizing people has inescapable risks that have nothing to do with the law.  You don't tug on Superman's cape, you don't spit into the wind, and all that.
 
2014-02-10 02:40:39 PM  

JesseL: Hardly anyone really wants to kill anyone in self defense.



I'll agree to that. I'd rather maim for a lasting lesson. Death is just an easy escape.
 
2014-02-10 02:40:58 PM  

FlashHarry: kronicfeld: The homeowner was a fox?

[img.fark.net image 800x387]


What does the gun say?
 
2014-02-10 02:41:57 PM  

AugieDoggyDaddy: Galloping Galoshes: As a pro-gun rights farker, I say confidently that there's not enough info in that story to draw any conclusion, other than there's a dead guy leaking on the rug.

I'm not very pro-gun,  but you pretty much right about that.   Isn't 5:28 an odd time for a home invasion?


"Isn't 5:28 an odd time for a home invasion?"

Exactly what I was thinking. I'm a pro-gun conservative, but I would wait until the facts are in before I too draw any conclusion.

/Also, I wouldn't celebrate the death of another human being, but that's just me.
 
2014-02-10 02:42:36 PM  

That Guy Jeff: cman: If only people were so rabidly pro-union as they are pro-second amendment we wouldn't have these robberies as often

Poverty begets crime. Drugs begets poverty. Misery begets drugs.

How does giving part of your paycheck to a corrupt union boss in exchange for 15 cent an hour more on Sundays help prevent poverty? Or are you referring to unions "back in the day"?


you gotta get your talkingpoints in order, unions are supposedly bankrupting the government and companies because they get too much for their workers that it makes them unable to compete with the slave labor in china.
 
2014-02-10 02:43:11 PM  

craigdamage: ....again, this happened in the Bay Area. There are strict anti-gun ordinances in San Francisco.

I seem to recall that homeowners are NOT allowed to have handguns. (I don't know if a pistol was used in this story)

There are places in the USA where deadly force as defense will get your ass locked up.

Not trolling.


California has both Stand Your Ground and castle doctrine laws. The homeowner should be fine.
 
2014-02-10 02:43:16 PM  

Headso: playing the victim in the way you are doing here


Say what now? I don't give a fark what your stance is on the issue. It doesn't affect me in the slightest.

Headso: I've never seen a thread on fark about a home invasion where it was "filled" with those kinds of comments


And you're full of shiat.
 
2014-02-10 02:43:56 PM  

Best Princess Celestia: JesseL: Hardly anyone really wants to kill anyone in self defense.


I'll agree to that. I'd rather maim for a lasting lesson. Death is just an easy escape.


Dead men can't sue.  Goblins that survive being shot do and often win
 
2014-02-10 02:43:57 PM  
We only have one story.  For all we know, it was

"Hey look.  About that Super Bowl bet.  I only got part of the mon-" POWPOWPOWPOW
 
2014-02-10 02:44:03 PM  
the best part is when the Wealthy/big business patriots finally get rid of that pesky, nasty government,  you all will have the privilege of staying home 24/7 to protect your property.  it'll be the perfect excuse for not being able to come in to work.


while the wealthy stay protected by their gated communities/fortresses.


god, i love Freedom.
 
2014-02-10 02:44:22 PM  

Nana's Vibrator: Smeggy Smurf: No, he needs more range time or a scattergun.  1 out of 3 isn't good enough

Though not confirmed, it's 2 out of 3 were shot; 1 was killed, and one was brought to the hospital with gunshot wounds.  She lived likely because of the gun control laws and how they always hurt women among other people who benefit from doing illegal alien minority things while the government tries to take my freedomballs.


Did you just have a stroke, or did your overzealous efforts to use sarcasm and irony collapse into some sort of derpy singularity from which meaning can't possibly escape?
 
2014-02-10 02:45:17 PM  

JesseL: Victimizing people has inescapable risks that have nothing to do with the law.


I really would like criminals to have to consider "I can break into that house and steal things or commit other offenses, but they can kill me without any more penalty as filling out some paperwork. Is it worth my life?"

And then when they lay there bleeding they can think "No, it really wasn't. Damn, should have taken that job at Co. . . "
 
2014-02-10 02:46:57 PM  
A man is dead under suspicious circumstances.  Let's show some respect and not politicize what could be a simple, unavoidable tragedy not unlike those that occur every day.

The deceased could've been selling encyclopedias door to door only to be gunned down by someone of unknown mental state.  We just don't know.

Wait until all the facts are in before coming to any conclusions.  No one has been convicted of anything.  A family is grieving.
 
2014-02-10 02:47:18 PM  

AngryDragon: onyxruby: cman: If only people were so rabidly pro-union as they are pro-second amendment we wouldn't have these robberies as often

Poverty begets crime. Drugs begets poverty. Misery begets drugs.

Some of us are pro union and pro gun. Quite a few more people than I think you realize. There are even people that support all 10 rights in the Bill of Rights.

Unfortunately, the ACLU are not a part of those people.  Sad.




ACLU is big on amendments. They've actually worked/sided d with the NRA on cases.
 
2014-02-10 02:47:45 PM  

Silly_Sot: MrSplifferton: Silly_Sot: How long before liberal outrage demands the resident be prosecuted for daring to have a firearm and use it in legitimate self-defense?

About as soon as your other fantasy of farking Amanda Knox happens.

TWO!
I GOT TWO!


and you also just got a record for fastest person I've ever put on ignore.
 
2014-02-10 02:48:34 PM  

cig-mkr: I own and believe in guns, but I don't think I'd ever want to kill someone in my house. I would if need be, but really wouldn't want to. A gun is like a jack in your car, don't ever want to use one but will if I have to.


It would be obnoxious having some two bit punk haunting your doormat
 
2014-02-10 02:48:47 PM  

cig-mkr: I own and believe in guns, but I don't think I'd ever want to kill someone in my house. I would if need be, but really wouldn't want to. A gun is like a jack in your car, don't ever want to use one but will if I have to.


Why do you carry a jack in your car? Are you one of those pussies that lives in fear of a flat tire?
 
2014-02-10 02:49:50 PM  

cig-mkr: I own and believe in guns, but I don't think I'd ever want to kill someone in my house. I would if need be, but really wouldn't want to. A gun is like a jack in your car, don't ever want to use one but will if I have to.


Honestly, I'd be worried about damaging my stuff and than having to deal with cleaning the blood.

"Yeah, I shot the burglar but the round went through him and took out eight bottles of wine."
 
2014-02-10 02:50:22 PM  

CanuckInCA: Silly_Sot: How long before liberal outrage demands the resident be prosecuted for daring to have a firearm and use it in legitimate self-defense?

I seriously doubt you'll see people advocating the prosecution of somebody defending themselves in a home invasion no matter how liberal they are, but please continue trolling...


The fark thread ; the user name you're looking for is UsikFark.
 
2014-02-10 02:50:53 PM  

GanjSmokr: Onkel Buck: CanuckInCA: Silly_Sot: How long before liberal outrage demands the resident be prosecuted for daring to have a firearm and use it in legitimate self-defense?

I seriously doubt you'll see people advocating the prosecution of somebody defending themselves in a home invasion no matter how liberal they are, but please continue trolling...

C'mon there has to be one of you out there that thinks that hiding in fear and waiting for the police to arrive is always the best policy.

Why call the police, you meanie?  Obviously this person had it worse off than the person he was trying to steal from, right?   Why not just hide in a closet and let them have what they want and then let them go on their way.   Are mere possessions worth bothering the police over?


Probably not, since the SCOTUS has said that the police DO NOT have constitutional duty to protect you. Although, as we have seen on many FARK threads, they seem to think they do have a constitutional duty to kicks your ass if they want too.
 
2014-02-10 02:51:53 PM  

umad: Headso: playing the victim in the way you are doing here

Say what now? I don't give a fark what your stance is on the issue. It doesn't affect me in the slightest.

Headso: I've never seen a thread on fark about a home invasion where it was "filled" with those kinds of comments

And you're full of shiat.


oh yeah, even though this thread has none of that threads about home invasions are "filled" with those kinds of comments, it's just you know, today is an off day so there's none but the next one will be back to being "filled" with them. My bad if your whiny comment wasn't based in partisanship as the other whiny comments with the same theme that are based in partisanship.
 
2014-02-10 02:52:00 PM  

Silly_Sot: How long before liberal outrage demands the resident be prosecuted for daring to have a firearm and use it in legitimate self-defense?


Answer: probably not long. See: Old Blighty.

/ of course there you wouldn't have the gun, so moo point.
 
2014-02-10 02:52:12 PM  
Well I guess someone didn't want to order Girl Scout cookies . . .
 
2014-02-10 02:52:40 PM  

super_grass: thamike: super_grass: DRINK

Please do.  This political sh*twave is what separates normal people who have guns and people like you who live in a hypothetical nethersphere.

[i290.photobucket.com image 600x450]


The ironing is delicious.
 
2014-02-10 02:52:53 PM  

jaybeezey: cig-mkr: I own and believe in guns, but I don't think I'd ever want to kill someone in my house. I would if need be, but really wouldn't want to. A gun is like a jack in your car, don't ever want to use one but will if I have to.

Why do you carry a jack in your car? Are you one of those pussies that lives in fear of a flat tire?


A real man doesn't need a jack or lug wrench to deal with a flat tire. He can change it with just his bare hands.

Anyone who isn't a real man should just call AAA and let the experts handle it.
 
2014-02-10 02:52:54 PM  

JesseL: Nana's Vibrator: Smeggy Smurf: No, he needs more range time or a scattergun.  1 out of 3 isn't good enough

Though not confirmed, it's 2 out of 3 were shot; 1 was killed, and one was brought to the hospital with gunshot wounds.  She lived likely because of the gun control laws and how they always hurt women among other people who benefit from doing illegal alien minority things while the government tries to take my freedomballs.

Did you just have a stroke, or did your overzealous efforts to use sarcasm and irony collapse into some sort of derpy singularity from which meaning can't possibly escape?


you want to take away peoples' guns and now you're attacking my speech freedom so that dangerous criminals can live while you work on their tax money for border jumping Obamacare welfare thieves national debt?
 
2014-02-10 02:53:19 PM  

OnlyM3: cman [TotalFark]


Poverty begets crime.Which is why rich people never commit crimes.

// farking stupid argument.


Well stroll down the streets on Chicago and then New York and then ask yourself that very same question again. Poverty does indeed beget crime. That does not mean that crime doesn't come from other places, however.
 
2014-02-10 02:53:20 PM  

Headso: That Guy Jeff: cman: If only people were so rabidly pro-union as they are pro-second amendment we wouldn't have these robberies as often

Poverty begets crime. Drugs begets poverty. Misery begets drugs.

How does giving part of your paycheck to a corrupt union boss in exchange for 15 cent an hour more on Sundays help prevent poverty? Or are you referring to unions "back in the day"?

you gotta get your talkingpoints in order, unions are supposedly bankrupting the government and companies because they get too much for their workers that it makes them unable to compete with the slave labor in china.


I don't know anything about that. My only experience with unions so far has been a long time ago when I worked for minimum wage as a grocery bagger they wanted a non-trivial portion of my paycheck in exchange for 15 cents on hour extra on Sundays. And I was required to be part of the union, but they couldn't just take the money out of my paycheck, so when it really came down to "pay up or your fired" I just quit and got a different minimum wage job that didn't take part of my paycheck.

I'm sure there's other perfectly good reasons to hate the modern union, but that's mine.Worker's rights back in the 19-whatevers? Awesome, good job raising the standards for everyone. Now? Just another layer of sleazy bureaucracy trying to separate you from your money.
 
2014-02-10 02:53:34 PM  

Headso: umad: CanuckInCA: Silly_Sot: How long before liberal outrage demands the resident be prosecuted for daring to have a firearm and use it in legitimate self-defense?

I seriously doubt you'll see people advocating the prosecution of somebody defending themselves in a home invasion no matter how liberal they are, but please continue trolling...

I seriously doubt you have ever been in a "person shoots a home invader" thread before. They are usually filled with "your stuff isn't more valuable than my life! Herp!" and "Robbery isn't a capital crime! Derp!"

I've never seen a thread on fark about a home invasion where it was "filled" with those kinds of comments, this very thread though has several whiny people playing the victim in the way you are doing here. Based on that I'm gonna say this is all in your heads, brehs.


Naw, I've seen the tri-weekly gun threads for some time here on fark.  There are definely libtards here who take the position "your stuff isn't more valuable than (someones) life!"

There are also the occasional guntard types that seem to look forward to an opportunity to blast a home invader or someone who assaults them.

The former tends to run a bit thin in the threads where someone successfully defends themself with a firearm.

A a proponent of the 2nd Amendment I think it's important to note, if the story we are reading here is more or less accurate, that one person stopped three people with the help of a firearm.

Short of being a martial arts or melee weapon expert, or having an armed guard in your back pocket - this is not something that would have really been possible w/o the help of a good blaster at your side, kid.
 
2014-02-10 02:53:53 PM  

tkwasny: "well regulated" right in the 2nd amendment means well trained in 18th century speak. The state or feds are responsible to provide range time for its citizens.


Conservation ranges in Missouri are well-kept and while not free are cheaper than private ranges, in general.  :-)
 
2014-02-10 02:54:22 PM  

Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: Silly_Sot: cman: If only people were so rabidly pro-union as they are pro-second amendment we wouldn't have these robberies as often

Poverty begets crime. Drugs begets poverty. Misery begets drugs.

8/10, nicely disguised.
Troll on, dude.

ah, damn, I shoulda looked at the poster's name


Whats that supposed to mean?
 
2014-02-10 02:54:41 PM  

craigdamage: ....again, this happened in the Bay Area. There are strict anti-gun ordinances in San Francisco.

I seem to recall that homeowners are NOT allowed to have handguns. (I don't know if a pistol was used in this story)



http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Municipalities-can-t-ban-peopl e- from-owning-3298553.php

So nope.
 
2014-02-10 02:56:14 PM  

Nana's Vibrator: JesseL: Nana's Vibrator: Smeggy Smurf: No, he needs more range time or a scattergun.  1 out of 3 isn't good enough

Though not confirmed, it's 2 out of 3 were shot; 1 was killed, and one was brought to the hospital with gunshot wounds.  She lived likely because of the gun control laws and how they always hurt women among other people who benefit from doing illegal alien minority things while the government tries to take my freedomballs.

Did you just have a stroke, or did your overzealous efforts to use sarcasm and irony collapse into some sort of derpy singularity from which meaning can't possibly escape?

you want to take away peoples' guns and now you're attacking my speech freedom so that dangerous criminals can live while you work on their tax money for border jumping Obamacare welfare thieves national debt?


Uh oh. Someone is stuck on random. Better let the batteries die out. Good thing they are rechargeable.
 
2014-02-10 02:56:17 PM  

onyxruby: CanuckInCA: Silly_Sot: How long before liberal outrage demands the resident be prosecuted for daring to have a firearm and use it in legitimate self-defense?

I seriously doubt you'll see people advocating the prosecution of somebody defending themselves in a home invasion no matter how liberal they are, but please continue trolling...

Sadly the law in several states requires you to do exactly that.


So I read the Heller majority.

If you were willing to get the NRA to back you, there's *enough* stuff in Heller that more or less says that "The primary purposes of owning a gun are self-defense and possible defense of liberty against government, and thus the right to bear arms implies a right to reasonable self-defense" that if this was actually self-defense, you could take it to the Supreme Court and possibly win under the current court.

/Plus McDonald.  I'm really hoping we can get a couple more cases like this through before President Warren stacks the court.
 
2014-02-10 02:56:50 PM  

craigdamage: ....again, this happened in the Bay Area. There are strict anti-gun ordinances in San Francisco.

I seem to recall that homeowners are NOT allowed to have handguns. (I don't know if a pistol was used in this story)

There are places in the USA where deadly force as defense will get your ass locked up.

Not trolling.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Francisco_Proposition_H_(2005)

Referendum restricting handguns was passed in 2005 but was struck down by courts before it could go into effect.  As an added bonus, the city of San Francisco was compelled to pay $380,000 to the NRA and other plaintiffs to cover their costs of litigating Proposition H.

Remember: Think, Google, then Post.  It keeps you from looking like you can't be bothered with facts when they get in the way of a compelling narrative.
 
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