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2014-02-10 11:55:14 AM
Obvious propaganda stunt. Next time he'll be the one authorizing the nuke drop on that hospital.
 
2014-02-10 12:12:39 PM
Show off!

Scared of our pressure. See, that's why we need to keep the pressure up and need more sanctions.

Propaganda.

/Just trying to figure out why right wing nuts will try to spin this.
 
2014-02-10 12:12:40 PM
It's a T.A.R.P.!
 
2014-02-10 12:13:05 PM
But, but, but, but, but

cdn.timesofisrael.com
 
2014-02-10 12:13:26 PM
Iran's Jewish community is the largest group in the Middle East other than in Israel, numbering about 25,000.

tmyk
 
2014-02-10 12:14:22 PM
Didn't we already know the current Iranian president is less of an asshole than the former Iranian president?
 
2014-02-10 12:14:50 PM

Serious Black: Obvious propaganda stunt. Next time he'll be the one authorizing the nuke drop on that hospital.


It's in Tehran, so probably not. Kidnapping and beheading staff would be more likely.
 
2014-02-10 12:15:10 PM
Nice link, subby!

Iran's Jewish community is the largest group in the Middle East other than in Israel, numbering about 25,000.

I had no idea.

/I learned something on the FARK politics tab today!
 
2014-02-10 12:15:13 PM

Serious Black: Obvious propaganda stunt. Next time he'll be the one authorizing the nuke drop on that hospital.


www.troll.me
 
2014-02-10 12:15:39 PM

kona: Iran's Jewish community is the largest group in the Middle East other than in Israel, numbering about 25,000.

tmyk


Really, I never would have guessed, other than that it was mentioned in the article...
 
2014-02-10 12:16:08 PM

Summoner101: Didn't we already know the current Iranian president is less of an asshole than the former Iranian president?


That depends. Are we republicans?  Because I'm pretty sure if we're republicans, Iran has to be exactly the same as Nazi Germany.
 
2014-02-10 12:16:58 PM
He's a politician, so he's still giving away someone else' money to someone else.
 
2014-02-10 12:18:10 PM
Hmmm... I don't even...  well..   hmm.  Good job.

I have a feeling this is also a signal to the western world that Iran's ready to get out of timeout permanently.
 
2014-02-10 12:19:16 PM

Serious Black: Obvious propaganda stunt. Next time he'll be the one authorizing the nuke drop on that hospital.


The money is for new, high-capacity showers.
 
2014-02-10 12:19:49 PM
I, too, have to wonder how this will be spun. There are folks who have an unreasoning hatred of everything Iran. People, place, culture... everything. If it's Iranian, it's bad. Yes, their religious institution has been claiming "Death to America!" for decades. Yes, they use it like Hawaiians use "Aloha!". The times are changing, and so are the people on both sides. Hopefully, this is something that will continue.
 
2014-02-10 12:19:59 PM

Serious Black: Obvious propaganda stunt. Next time he'll be the one authorizing the nuke drop on that hospital.



Its a nice gesture. Stop trying to see the negative.
 
2014-02-10 12:20:38 PM

palelizard: Serious Black: Obvious propaganda stunt. Next time he'll be the one authorizing the nuke drop on that hospital.

The money is for new, high-capacity showers.


And a large brick oven, too! You know, for tasty Jew pizza...
/One ticket please
 
2014-02-10 12:21:17 PM

whosits_112: kona: Iran's Jewish community is the largest group in the Middle East other than in Israel, numbering about 25,000.

tmyk

Really, I never would have guessed, other than that it was mentioned in the article...


Yeah... That's where kona was quoting it from... And the "tmyk" referred to himself.

Sarcasm is welcome on Fark. Stupidity is not.
 
2014-02-10 12:21:21 PM
Subby quit looking for a pony in that pile of manure.
 
2014-02-10 12:22:05 PM

Joe Six-Keg: I, too, have to wonder how this will be spun. There are folks who have an unreasoning hatred of everything Iran. People, place, culture... everything. If it's Iranian, it's bad. Yes, their religious institution has been claiming "Death to America!" for decades. Yes, they use it like Hawaiians use "Aloha!". The times are changing, and so are the people on both sides. Hopefully, this is something that will continue.



I don't even think its that the poeple are changing. I think it's that the voices who have been out in front are changing. The old leaders of Iran probably no more speak for all of the people than GW Bush or Dick Cheney spoke for me.
 
2014-02-10 12:22:14 PM

Joe Six-Keg: Yes, their religious institution has been claiming "Death to America!" for decades. Yes, they use it like Hawaiians use "Aloha!".


Not quite. I mean, yes, that's what you SEE, but that's like going to a tea party rally and thinking all Americans, who consider themselves conservative, are like them.
 
2014-02-10 12:22:46 PM

ikanreed: Summoner101: Didn't we already know the current Iranian president is less of an asshole than the former Iranian president?

That depends. Are we republicans?  Because I'm pretty sure if we're republicans, Iran has to be exactly the same as Nazi Germany.


Is it irony if you're ridiculing one group for making a sweeping generalization, by making a sweeping generalization about them?
 
2014-02-10 12:24:34 PM

Joe Six-Keg: I, too, have to wonder how this will be spun. There are folks who have an unreasoning hatred of everything Iran. People, place, culture... everything. If it's Iranian, it's bad. Yes, their religious institution has been claiming "Death to America!" for decades. Yes, they use it like Hawaiians use "Aloha!". The times are changing, and so are the people on both sides. Hopefully, this is something that will continue.


TONIGHTONFOXNEWS: IS IRAN SETTING UP FOR A MAJOR TROLL ON ISRAEL? (PLEASESAYYESWENEEDMOREFEAR)
 
2014-02-10 12:25:12 PM

brimed03: whosits_112: kona: Iran's Jewish community is the largest group in the Middle East other than in Israel, numbering about 25,000.

tmyk

Really, I never would have guessed, other than that it was mentioned in the article...

Yeah... That's where kona was quoting it from... And the "tmyk" referred to himself.

Sarcasm is welcome on Fark. Stupidity is not.


Yeah? Well, your face is stupid!
/Got nothin'...
 
2014-02-10 12:26:03 PM
Detente!
 
2014-02-10 12:26:57 PM

porcupine tree: Is it irony if you're ridiculing one group for making a sweeping generalization, by making a sweeping generalization about them?


Nope, the totally reasonable idea is that republicans are morons, and their policy positions select for the set of people equal to morons.
 
2014-02-10 12:28:08 PM
Painting all Iranians as anti-semites and warmongers because of Ahmedinejad is like saying all Americans are stupid warmongers because of W.  Countries are full of people, not cartoon villains.
 
2014-02-10 12:28:17 PM

brimed03: whosits_112: kona: Iran's Jewish community is the largest group in the Middle East other than in Israel, numbering about 25,000.

tmyk

Really, I never would have guessed, other than that it was mentioned in the article...

Yeah... That's where kona was quoting it from... And the "tmyk" referred to himself.

Sarcasm is welcome on Fark. Stupidity is not.


As for stupidity, quite a few Farkers are way way way worse than me. My excuse is lack of caffeine. Their excuse is excess head trauma1
 
2014-02-10 12:28:55 PM
Um....Rosh Hashahah isn't until September....but yea.ok thanks. I think...

WTF?

You have a happy Halloween!!!!!
 
2014-02-10 12:28:58 PM

whosits_112: brimed03: whosits_112: kona: Iran's Jewish community is the largest group in the Middle East other than in Israel, numbering about 25,000.

tmyk

Really, I never would have guessed, other than that it was mentioned in the article...

Yeah... That's where kona was quoting it from... And the "tmyk" referred to himself.

Sarcasm is welcome on Fark. Stupidity is not.

As for stupidity, quite a few Farkers are way way way worse than me. My excuse is lack of caffeine. Their excuse is excess head trauma1


Speaking of head trauma...
 
2014-02-10 12:29:46 PM
But do you accept the gifts of Romulans?
 
2014-02-10 12:29:58 PM

brimed03: whosits_112: kona: Iran's Jewish community is the largest group in the Middle East other than in Israel, numbering about 25,000.

tmyk

Really, I never would have guessed, other than that it was mentioned in the article...

Yeah... That's where kona was quoting it from... And the "tmyk" referred to himself.

Sarcasm is welcome on Fark. Stupidity is not.


Alternatively, not everyone reads the articles linked in threads they post in.
 
2014-02-10 12:30:09 PM
You know who else wished Jews a "blessed Rosh Hashanah" and donated lots of money to a Jewish hospital?

... me either.
 
2014-02-10 12:30:32 PM
Old news. This is from 6 months ago.

Your Total Fark Dollars at work.
 
2014-02-10 12:30:39 PM
upload.wikimedia.org

What is this I don't even
 
2014-02-10 12:31:08 PM
Heated rhetoric notwithstanding, Persians and Jews have always gotten along reasonably well. They both dislike Arabs.
 
2014-02-10 12:31:08 PM

DROxINxTHExWIND: I don't even think its that the poeple are changing. I think it's that the voices who have been out in front are changing. The old leaders of Iran probably no more speak for all of the people than GW Bush or Dick Cheney spoke for me.


This is probably true.  The people who hated America, the people who led the revolution, the people in power are getting old.  Iranian people probably roll their eyes when they hear about 'the American devil' the same way we'd roll our eyes when we hear about the 'Red Menace'.
 
2014-02-10 12:32:06 PM

Joe Six-Keg: I, too, have to wonder how this will be spun. There are folks who have an unreasoning hatred of everything Iran. People, place, culture... everything. If it's Iranian, it's bad. Yes, their religious institution has been claiming "Death to America!" for decades. Yes, they use it like Hawaiians use "Aloha!". The times are changing, and so are the people on both sides. Hopefully, this is something that will continue.


This isn't really much of a shift.  Iran has always taken an official position of, "we love Jews we just hate Israel."  Now you can pitch a fit about the gulf between "official" and "actual" and the shiat they pull when they have an excuse or the propaganda games they play, but that is not a change in how it plays.

What is mildly surprising is that anyone, even the huffpo, is talking about it.
 
2014-02-10 12:33:08 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/08/rouhani-donates-jewish-hospi t al_n_4745185.html?lolwut

Check the end of the URL, either subby or HuffPo needs to check their class level....
 
2014-02-10 12:33:53 PM
is there anything Obama cant do?
 
2014-02-10 12:36:33 PM
Jews in Iran???

i449.photobucket.com
 
2014-02-10 12:36:34 PM

2 grams: Um....Rosh Hashahah isn't until September....but yea.ok thanks. I think...

WTF?

You have a happy Halloween!!!!!


Yeah, but Iran is like eight or so hours ahead of us, so you have to account for that ... eight-plus hours every day really starts to stack up, I'd be surprised if it wasn't September there already.
 
2014-02-10 12:36:44 PM

Muta: Iranian people probably roll their eyes when they hear about 'the American devil' the same way we'd roll our eyes when we hear about the 'Red Menace'.


You mean the Red Menace that overthrew our democratically-elected government in the 1950s and installed a despot?
 
2014-02-10 12:36:49 PM
The Huffington Post eats news and shiats out summaries written by a dyslectic middle schooler, next time submit the NYT article:  http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/07/world/middleeast/iran-delivers-surp r ise-money-to-jewish-hospital.html?ref=middleeast&_r=0

Remember: it doesn't paywall referred URLs.
 
2014-02-10 12:36:59 PM
You know, I've been reading a lot of Fark and Reddit lately and thinking "boy, people out there are real dicks to each other". I'm glad to see someone can, whether for publicity or not, stop hating for a few minutes and do something nice.
 
2014-02-10 12:37:23 PM
Tonnage and DRO, I completely agree, and yeah, of course the red meat gets played for the masses by the media because it's more interesting. Same thing happens in the US. What I was more looking at was that it's not the religious fundies that are running the show as much as they used to, and I'm rather pleased about that. Sorry for not being clear.
 
2014-02-10 12:37:51 PM

BMulligan: Heated rhetoric notwithstanding, Persians and Jews have always gotten along reasonably well. They both dislike Arabs.


What about Arabic Jews?
 
2014-02-10 12:40:16 PM
No no no. We have been told time and again by a certain orthodox fundie shill on fark, who's login rhymes with ratsuma, how fundamentally bad Iran is.

This information conflicts with that worldview, and it is therefore patently false.
 
2014-02-10 12:41:55 PM

H31N0US: No no no. We have been told time and again by a certain orthodox fundie shill on fark, who's login rhymes with ratsuma, how fundamentally bad Iran is.

This information conflicts with that worldview, and it is therefore patently false.


Does he still post here? I stopped seeing hardline zionist posts after Iran changed presidents. Not that I go out of my way to read Israel vs. Iran vs. the World threads.
 
2014-02-10 12:42:20 PM

imontheinternet: Painting all Iranians as anti-semites and warmongers because of Ahmedinejad is like saying all Americans are stupid warmongers because of W.  Countries are full of people, not cartoon villains.


Except Belgium.  Every Belgian I've ever met has had one of those thin, needly mustaches and giant round bombs with sputtering fuses.

/Cold medicine
/No, I don't know either
 
2014-02-10 12:43:19 PM

Joe Six-Keg: Tonnage and DRO, I completely agree, and yeah, of course the red meat gets played for the masses by the media because it's more interesting. Same thing happens in the US. What I was more looking at was that it's not the religious fundies that are running the show as much as they used to, and I'm rather pleased about that. Sorry for not being clear.


And as time moves along, they'll be even less relevant until they appeal to the masses. Look at the Catholic church, for years they kept their hard line, archaic ways, and more and more people moved away from the church. Now they have a pope who aligns more with contemporary views, and he's garnered more support.

I would assume the same thing will happen in Iran. My Iranian friend tells me its very visible nowadays, and the younger voices are being heard a lot more.
 
2014-02-10 12:44:10 PM
Huh. Well how about that.
 
2014-02-10 12:48:06 PM
It's a Trojan Camel.
 
2014-02-10 12:48:24 PM

super_grass: H31N0US: No no no. We have been told time and again by a certain orthodox fundie shill on fark, who's login rhymes with ratsuma, how fundamentally bad Iran is.

This information conflicts with that worldview, and it is therefore patently false.

Does he still post here? I stopped seeing hardline zionist posts after Iran changed presidents. Not that I go out of my way to read Israel vs. Iran vs. the World threads.


Haven't seen him in a while, but then again I took a few months break from fark after one of my posts was deleted for calling him out. Maybe his sheckles are being spent on other message boards deemed more relevant and influential to his cause. Maybe he grew up a little and mellowed out, or maybe he's gone and joined the Judean Peoples Front. IDK. I do know he has me on ignore, and has for quite some time.
 
2014-02-10 12:50:52 PM
encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com
 
2014-02-10 12:51:16 PM
Who will Christians hate now?
 
2014-02-10 12:52:39 PM
This is only a distraction.  If they keep doing this, we won't be paying attention when their "fleet" launches missiles at coastal US cities, then has some drinks in Havana.
 
2014-02-10 12:55:56 PM
Considering that more Israelis have been killed by Sunni Muslims than by Iranians and more Iranians have been killed by Sunni Muslims than by Israelis, it's not a big surprise that they are considering getting together.
 
2014-02-10 12:57:44 PM
I'm sure the Palestinians watching townhouses being built where their homes used to be from across the valley are thrilled.
 
2014-02-10 12:58:10 PM
I swear to god fark politics tab everyday gets closer and closer to the glib knee jerk reactions to comment section of normal news sites.

I remember when people used to have some pretty insightful stuff and would respond with more thinking then just their first reaction to it through their own political world view.
 
2014-02-10 12:58:12 PM

Begoggle: Who will Christians hate now?


Everyone still, this changes nothing
 
2014-02-10 01:01:01 PM
I'm unconvinced.  Iran's interests are presently best served by deception.

Let's say, for the sake of argument, that Iran is intent on acquiring nuclear weapon capability, and wanted to avoid external sanctions/inspections.  Could they do that more easily with an irritating asshole like Ahmadinejad as their public face, or a nice, moderate guy like Rouhani who gives money to Jewish charities?

If you're trying to figure out what a nation is really planning, it's a better idea to study their interests than to listen to what they say.  I'd apply the same scrutiny to any country.
 
2014-02-10 01:01:06 PM
TonnageVT, and I'm all for their voices being heard more. Less hate and more happiness, says this old fart.

/and hot Persian women
//MOAR!!!!
 
2014-02-10 01:03:16 PM

Captain Dan: I'm unconvinced.  Iran's interests are presently best served by deception.

Let's say, for the sake of argument, that Iran is intent on acquiring nuclear weapon capability, and wanted to avoid external sanctions/inspections.  Could they do that more easily with an irritating asshole like Ahmadinejad as their public face, or a nice, moderate guy like Rouhani who gives money to Jewish charities?

If you're trying to figure out what a nation is really planning, it's a better idea to study their interests than to listen to what they say.  I'd apply the same scrutiny to any country.


Iran has been 6 months from a nuclear warhead for the past 30 years or so. Many people stopped taking any warnings about Iran's threat seriously sometime during that time.
 
2014-02-10 01:05:29 PM

imontheinternet: Painting all Iranians as anti-semites and warmongers because of Ahmedinejad is like saying all Americans are stupid warmongers because of W.  Countries are full of people, not cartoon villains.


I was about to chime in and agree that no country is full of just one guy over and over, but then I thought of Horatio.
 
2014-02-10 01:08:04 PM

Joe Six-Keg: TonnageVT, and I'm all for their voices being heard more. Less hate and more happiness, says this old fart.

/and hot Persian women
//MOAR!!!!


My first regular sexual partner was half Persian, half French. Junior year in HS. She was hot.

I saw her a few years ago at a baptism (she was related to one of the other babies being baptized). She was fat.
 
2014-02-10 01:10:07 PM
Wow, first Hamas moves to stop rocket attacks from Gaze and now a generous Rosh Hashanah gift from Iran... things are looking up for the middle east.
 
2014-02-10 01:10:40 PM

super_grass: Iran has been 6 months from a nuclear warhead for the past 30 years or so. Many people stopped taking any warnings about Iran's threat seriously sometime during that time.


Of course Israel is going to cry wolf about Iran - that's in their interest.  But Israel's histrionics don't mean that Iran will never actually do just that.  In Aesop's fable, the wolf eventually does arrive.
 
2014-02-10 01:11:14 PM

Somacandra: BMulligan: Heated rhetoric notwithstanding, Persians and Jews have always gotten along reasonably well. They both dislike Arabs.

What about Arabic Jews?


3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-02-10 01:12:02 PM
It's hard to know what to make of it.  It is certainly different from how Iran saw Jewish state in the past.  Are they still preparing nukes to send Israel to Kingdom Come?
 
2014-02-10 01:13:44 PM

H31N0US: Joe Six-Keg: TonnageVT, and I'm all for their voices being heard more. Less hate and more happiness, says this old fart.

/and hot Persian women
//MOAR!!!!

My first regular sexual partner was half Persian, half French. Junior year in HS. She was hot.

I saw her a few years ago at a baptism (she was related to one of the other babies being baptized). She was fat.


My Iranian friend is smoking hot. Her cousins are even hotter. Their mothers though, stereotypical old Persian woman, looking. I just think they hit an age/point in their life (mostly after kids I would assume) and the looks just wither away.

/Great cooks though
 
2014-02-10 01:16:12 PM
"The Israeli Military responded with a coordinated precision bomb strike against key Iranian targets.  Said Prime Minister Netanyahu: "This aggression could not be allowed to stand.""
 
2014-02-10 01:18:18 PM
Iran acting sane? Is this a sign of the Apocalypse?
 
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2014-02-10 01:23:10 PM

mayIFark: /Just trying to figure out why right wing nuts will try to spin this.


I'll take a stab at this :) I'm kinda a wing nut.

I think Iran is making peaceful gestures towards the Jewish Community, and ultimately Israel. Iran is so belligerent that it's put the Saudis and Israelis on the same side. That has to be a wake up call.
 
2014-02-10 01:24:05 PM
Iranic.
 
2014-02-10 01:25:16 PM

Joe Six-Keg: TonnageVT, and I'm all for their voices being heard more. Less hate and more happiness, says this old fart.

/and hot Persian women
//MOAR!!!!


I can see the appeal

4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-02-10 01:30:38 PM
I really hope this new Iranian President is sincere, but I wouldn't bet my own money on it ^^
 
2014-02-10 01:32:04 PM
www.indymedia.ie
 
2014-02-10 01:35:37 PM

Serious Black: Obvious propaganda stunt. Next time he'll be the one authorizing the nuke drop on that hospital.


img.fark.net

Is this Poe's Law again?

Came here looking for variants on "It's a trap" from the neo-con dimwits.  Mostly disappointed.  Come one, guys!  Let's hear how this is a sign of the End Times, and Israel, right or wrong!
 
2014-02-10 01:36:18 PM

Captain Dan: super_grass: Iran has been 6 months from a nuclear warhead for the past 30 years or so. Many people stopped taking any warnings about Iran's threat seriously sometime during that time.

Of course Israel is going to cry wolf about Iran - that's in their interest.  But Israel's histrionics don't mean that Iran will never actually do just that.  In Aesop's fable, the wolf eventually does arrive.


Wasn't there some talk of giving any enriched Uranium they had to the US as part of the sanctions lifting agreement?
 
2014-02-10 01:36:41 PM

Laobaojun: Serious Black: Obvious propaganda stunt. Next time he'll be the one authorizing the nuke drop on that hospital.

[img.fark.net image 400x273]

Is this Poe's Law again?

Came here looking for variants on "It's a trap" from the neo-con dimwits.  Mostly disappointed.  Come one, guys!  Let's hear how this is a sign of the End Times, and Israel, right or wrong!


There are no neo-cons here. Maybe the one hardcore zionists, but no neo-cons.
 
2014-02-10 01:38:02 PM
Between Pope Francis and Iranian President Rouhani, it's like oppressive regimes are starting to take a turn for the better. Now if we can just get Syria's Assad to follow suit we'll be looking at some real progress.
 
2014-02-10 01:39:51 PM

Jormungandr: Wasn't there some talk of giving any enriched Uranium they had to the US as part of the sanctions lifting agreement?


I'm not aware of any agreement to dismantle Iran's enriched uranium stockpile.  If Iran agreed to that, I'd be thrilled, and much more inclined to believe that Iran is serious about peace.
 
2014-02-10 01:41:25 PM

Captain Dan: If you're trying to figure out what a nation is really planning, it's a better idea to study their interests actions than to listen to what they say.  I'd apply the same scrutiny to any country.


FTFY: "interests" are subjective and very vulnerable to mirror-imaging (thinking the other guy would do what you would do).  Actions, like building or destroying gas centrifuges for uranium enrichment are much more telling, and harder to misinterpret than "interests".
 
2014-02-10 01:41:56 PM
Good on him.

I realize it's propaganda for those both inside and outside of Iran's borders, but all the same...Good on him.

Sometimes, I wonder if the Obama Administration sits them down and explains to them the difference between how the GOP would treat the situation and how they themselves are willing to deal with a situation.

It would explain things.
 
2014-02-10 01:42:08 PM
The donation was hand-delivered by Ambassador Emir Gencyexitonly.
 
2014-02-10 01:45:28 PM

super_grass: Laobaojun: Serious Black: Obvious propaganda stunt. Next time he'll be the one authorizing the nuke drop on that hospital.

[img.fark.net image 400x273]

Is this Poe's Law again?

Came here looking for variants on "It's a trap" from the neo-con dimwits.  Mostly disappointed.  Come one, guys!  Let's hear how this is a sign of the End Times, and Israel, right or wrong!

There are no neo-cons here. Maybe the one hardcore zionists, but no neo-cons.


Well, we should fix that. Maybe have a sponsorship party for any neo-con liters who want to join in and have felt excluded. Maybe even have a convention for it, balance out Fark outside of the Politics tab. We could call it RepubliCon ™ .
 
2014-02-10 01:48:39 PM

Captain Dan: Jormungandr: Wasn't there some talk of giving any enriched Uranium they had to the US as part of the sanctions lifting agreement?

I'm not aware of any agreement to dismantle Iran's enriched uranium stockpile.  If Iran agreed to that, I'd be thrilled, and much more inclined to believe that Iran is serious about peace.


That's pretty general, but the agreement does include 'start neutralizing' their 20% enriched uranium stockpile (whatever that means) as well as halt production of such material.

http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2014/1/20/details-of-iran-nucle a rdeal.html
 
2014-02-10 01:50:54 PM

theknuckler_33: Captain Dan: Jormungandr: Wasn't there some talk of giving any enriched Uranium they had to the US as part of the sanctions lifting agreement?

I'm not aware of any agreement to dismantle Iran's enriched uranium stockpile.  If Iran agreed to that, I'd be thrilled, and much more inclined to believe that Iran is serious about peace.

That's pretty general, but the agreement does include 'start neutralizing' their 20% enriched uranium stockpile (whatever that means) as well as halt production of such material.

http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2014/1/20/details-of-iran-nucle a rdeal.html


This source puts it at 5%. Dismantle equipment used to produce 5+% enriched uranium and dilute to below 5% any existing stockpiles of 5+% enriched uranium.
 
2014-02-10 02:50:43 PM

rzrwiresunrise: [upload.wikimedia.org image 193x262]

What is this I don't even


How do you suppose Admiral Akbar got his big Hellboy hands through those snug early 1980s era polyester sleeves?
 
2014-02-10 03:08:53 PM
Don't be nice to them. It just pisses them off.

Ask Jesus.
 
2014-02-10 03:18:15 PM
Why does this surprise anyone? It's about Israel, not jews.
 
2014-02-10 03:37:42 PM

alabasterblack: rzrwiresunrise: [upload.wikimedia.org image 193x262]

What is this I don't even

How do you suppose Admiral Akbar got his big Hellboy hands through those snug early 1980s era polyester sleeves?


He's actually naked, that 'suit' is an evolved extension of his exoskeleton....

I now have a strange desire to wear flannel and make movies with blatantly racist CGI characters.
 
2014-02-10 03:40:03 PM

Uncle Tractor: Why does this surprise anyone? It's about Israel, not jews.


And I was wondering, who will be stupid enough to actually buy this propaganda bullshiat ?
Anti-semitism in iran ? nah, they mean 'Israel', not jews. yeah that's the ticket..
 
2014-02-10 03:42:36 PM

TappingTheVein: Uncle Tractor: Why does this surprise anyone? It's about Israel, not jews.

And I was wondering, who will be stupid enough to actually buy this propaganda bullshiat ?
Anti-semitism in iran ? nah, they mean 'Israel', not jews. yeah that's the ticket..


Seems legit.
 
2014-02-10 03:45:13 PM

TappingTheVein: And I was wondering, who will be stupid enough to actually buy this propaganda bullshiat ?


You, apparently.
 
2014-02-10 04:18:45 PM

Uncle Tractor: You, apparently.


Don't get me wrong, i'm not judging you. i'm just curious how deep is the level of your delusional stupidity regarding this matter.
The most notorious anti-semitic literature being a raging best seller in Iran is purely coincidental ? Iranian academia teaching anti-semitic jewish conspiracies is a joke by the lecturer ?

But it's about Israel right ?.. right ?
 
2014-02-10 04:22:48 PM

theknuckler_33: theknuckler_33: Captain Dan: Jormungandr: Wasn't there some talk of giving any enriched Uranium they had to the US as part of the sanctions lifting agreement?

I'm not aware of any agreement to dismantle Iran's enriched uranium stockpile.  If Iran agreed to that, I'd be thrilled, and much more inclined to believe that Iran is serious about peace.

That's pretty general, but the agreement does include 'start neutralizing' their 20% enriched uranium stockpile (whatever that means) as well as halt production of such material.

http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2014/1/20/details-of-iran-nucle a rdeal.html

This source puts it at 5%. Dismantle equipment used to produce 5+% enriched uranium and dilute to below 5% any existing stockpiles of 5+% enriched uranium.


Awesome.
Incidentally they could put that Uranium to good use if they bought some CANDU reactors from Canada. They are ridiculously safe and cannot be used to make weaponized anything. They can also run off the waste of other plants, producing power from crap that is too thin for a normal reactor -- also natural Uranium. They could dispose of nuclear waste, produce electricity *and* have no need to enrich Uranium.
 
2014-02-10 04:39:14 PM
Damn, those people know how to get money from anyone.
 
2014-02-10 04:59:56 PM

2 grams: Um....Rosh Hashahah isn't until September....but yea.ok thanks. I think...

WTF?

You have a happy Halloween!!!!!


I was going to point that out too but you beat me to it.
 
2014-02-10 05:55:59 PM
I don't want your blood money
oh that doesn't matter our expenses are good...
 
2014-02-10 06:08:27 PM

TappingTheVein: Uncle Tractor: You, apparently.

Don't get me wrong, i'm not judging you. i'm just curious how deep is the level of your delusional stupidity regarding this matter.
The most notorious anti-semitic literature being a raging best seller in Iran is purely coincidental ? Iranian academia teaching anti-semitic jewish conspiracies is a joke by the lecturer ?


All countries have a gutter.

Once we were alarmed when we discovered anti-Israeli propaganda, accompanied by racist caricatures, which was included in textbooks used by refugee children in Gaza. And now it is clear, although only few parents know about it, that we, the Israelis, are employing much worse material of racist hatred which is accompanied by caricatures no less racist.

I guess it's not racist when israelis do it.

But it's about Israel right ?.. right ?

Israel and zionism is the driving force behind today's hostility towards jews, so yes, it is.
 
2014-02-10 06:17:20 PM
I can imagine a day when Iran has a moderate, secular president who does away with all the old hate and intolerance.

And I can imagine our government killing him and installing a dictator in his place.
 
2014-02-10 06:40:31 PM
static3.wikia.nocookie.net
I don't like this C-note, Rosato..
 
2014-02-10 06:59:53 PM

Uncle Tractor: All countries have a gutter.


I repeat:

Uncle Tractor: Why does this surprise anyone? It's about Israel, not jews.


He made that statement about the topic at hand with a straight face. He wasn't kidding. About Iran, one of the biggest anti-semitic places in the world.

thepoliticalcarnival.net

Uncle Tractor: Once we were alarmed when we discovered anti-Israeli propaganda, accompanied by racist caricatures, which was included in textbooks used by refugee children in Gaza. And now it is clear, although only few parents know about it, that we, the Israelis, are employing much worse material of racist hatred which is accompanied by caricatures no less racist.

I guess it's not racist when israelis do it.


Oh yes. The "but..but..israel" approach. Definitely will diminish the incredible stupidity of your statement. Should i mentioned that you pulled that link from an islamic propaganda site ? quoting a rabid post-zionist haaretz piece which is a farking joke ? nah, why bother. I don't want to diminish the efforts you made digging for that, um, source.

Great site by the way, i'm digging the beauty of Jihad piece.
You do realize you buried yourself even deeper with that farking joke of a site right ? or are you too farking stupid to realize that one as well ?

Uncle Tractor: Israel and zionism is the driving force behind today's hostility towards jews, so yes, it is.


Oh yes. Just like it did prior to the existence of Israel.
Repeating your delusional bullshiat won't somehow make it reality. Do some reading about anti-semitism in Iran (and the arab world for that matter) before Israel existed before you humiliate yourself further (if that's even possible..).
 
2014-02-10 07:05:46 PM
The one thing they need: Money. They still want the US to bomb you.
 
2014-02-10 07:12:43 PM

Uncle Tractor: Once we were alarmed when we discovered anti-Israeli propaganda, accompanied by racist caricatures, which was included in textbooks used by refugee children in Gaza. And now it is clear, although only few parents know about it, that we, the Israelis, are employing much worse material of racist hatred which is accompanied by caricatures no less racist.


Ok, i just realized where I heard that name 'danidin' before mentioned in that Haaretz link. It's a children's book from over 40 farking years ago.
Farking idiot. Good stuff, very recent and relevant. You didn't check the date on that article did you.

By the way thank you for that site you linked too, very counterproductive for you but some incredible stuff. The anti-evolution link seems to be dead but the Islamic perspective link is very entertaining. I'm currently at the 'spirit of Jihad' bit.
 
2014-02-10 07:24:15 PM
I blame the Pope!
 
2014-02-10 07:34:52 PM

mayIFark: Propaganda.

/Just trying to figure out why right wing nuts will try to spin this.


What's the rationale of labeling this 'spin'?  That's what everything is: propaganda, spin.  You think any government gives anything if they don't think they're getting something in return?  It doesn't always have to be tangible.

And of course they do this because they realize the world doesn't have a high opinion of them, which rather shows your right wing nuts aren't entirely as nutty as you'd wish them to be. 

/though, I mean, they surely are nutty, of course.
 
2014-02-10 07:37:05 PM

Mercutio74: Hmmm... I don't even...  well..   hmm.  Good job.

I have a feeling this is also a signal to the western world that Iran's ready to get out of timeout permanently.


Too bad Israel and the Saudis don't want to see that happen. And we just go along with it like their little biatch.
 
2014-02-10 07:58:53 PM
Wet's see, Iwan has stated on multiple occasions that they want to obwibewate Iswael.  They are sitting on the largest fuel deposit in the wowld but need nucwear.

That's why we think wiberals are useful idiots.  Don't wowwy, a wepubwican will cwean up the mess.
 
2014-02-10 08:29:45 PM

Mean Daddy: Wet's see, Iwan has stated on multiple occasions that they want to obwibewate Iswael.  They are sitting on the largest fuel deposit in the wowld but need nucwear.

That's why we think wiberals are useful idiots.  Don't wowwy, a wepubwican will cwean up the mess.


So you mean your "friend" Biggus Dickus?

Liberals don't need people like you to protect them from other people like you.
 
2014-02-10 08:49:46 PM

geek_mars: Between Pope Francis and Iranian President Rouhani, it's like oppressive regimes are starting to take a turn for the better. Now if we can just get Syria's Assad to follow suit we'll be looking at some real progress.


The neocons will run out of people to fear and loathe. Then what will they do?
 
2014-02-10 08:56:31 PM

TappingTheVein: The most notorious anti-semitic literature being a raging best seller in Iran is purely coincidental ?



Not even wrong. What are you talking about? What list? When? Or do you mean best seller in the sense that it 'was sold'?
 
2014-02-10 09:18:52 PM
www.portlandmercury.com
 
2014-02-10 10:48:42 PM
Hmm, I was under the impression that the largest middle eastern Jewish community outside of Israel might be a good gauge to see if, in fact, Iran had a problem with Jews as a whole rather than just Israel.

It seems that, despite all the extremely generous offers of financial compensation to come to live in Israel, the Jews in Iran - perhaps one of the oldest Jewish communities in the world - have been quite happy to stay in Iran.

From this, we can only conclude that the Jews in Iran are a bunch of anti-Semitic monsters who spend their days dreaming up ways to destroy every Jew in the world, including themselves.

Why won't these Jews stop hating on the Jews? What have the Jews ever done to the Jews that was so bad?

If only all the people of the world, both Jew and Jew, could get along, then the world would be a better place.
 
2014-02-10 11:59:16 PM

Mean Daddy: They are sitting on the largest fuel deposit in the wowld but need nucwear.


Every barrel used domestically is one less they can sell for cash.

Best Princess Celestia: He's a politician, so he's still giving away someone else' money to someone else.


Iran is an oil exporter. They get cash from other places that want that oil and use the money on stuff they need at home. Sort of like what Alaska claims to be but without handouts for multimillion dollar bridges to islands with less than a dozen people.
 
2014-02-11 12:14:33 AM
 
2014-02-11 12:30:42 AM

m00: mayIFark: /Just trying to figure out why right wing nuts will try to spin this.

I'll take a stab at this :) I'm kinda a wing nut.

I think Iran is making peaceful gestures towards the Jewish Community, and ultimately Israel. Iran is so belligerent that it's put the Saudis and Israelis on the same side. That has to be a wake up call.


Arabs and Persians have long been at odds. Nothing new.
 
2014-02-11 12:54:29 AM
I'm curious to know how it is to be a Jew in Iran. I'd go there and find out for myself, if it weren't so likely that I'd be imprisoned and murdered.
 
2014-02-11 03:09:30 AM

murray208: Not even wrong. What are you talking about? What list? When? Or do you mean best seller in the sense that it 'was sold'?


I thought that it was obvious. Are you not familiar with the popularity of the, um, book in the arab/islamic world ? i suggest you do some reading about it.
 
2014-02-11 03:13:02 AM

The Repeated Meme: It seems that, despite all the extremely generous offers of financial compensation to come to live in Israel, the Jews in Iran - perhaps one of the oldest Jewish communities in the world - have been quite happy to stay in Iran


Oh yes. The fact that their numbers dropped from around 150,000 to around 20,000 - 25,000 means absolutely nothing.
 
2014-02-11 04:55:33 AM

TappingTheVein: The most notorious anti-semitic literature being a raging best seller in Iran is purely coincidental ? Iranian academia teaching anti-semitic jewish conspiracies is a joke by the lecturer ?


How's Oral Roberts University doing these days? "The Turner Diaries" still selling well in the US, are they?
 
2014-02-11 06:15:27 AM

Summoner101: Didn't we already know the current Iranian president is less of an asshole than the former Iranian president?


I'm pretty sure the Iranian clerics made Ahmadinajad the president to cement their (large) power base of violent, ignorant, religious assholes.  Once he'd shot his mouth off for a few years, murdered some protesters and hanged a few homos, and let them know that there wasn't going to be any secular revolution happening, they bring this guy in prevent the US from getting too fed up with them and start dropping bombs/more sanctions.  The long term plan is "rinse and repeat".
 
2014-02-11 06:34:38 AM

TappingTheVein: Oh yes. The "but..but..israel" approach.


...And when someone says something critical about Israel, we see the "but ...but ...Sudan" approach. (or Saudi Arabia, or Iran or ...)

Definitely will diminish the incredible stupidity of your statement. Should i mentioned that you pulled that link from an islamic propaganda site ? quoting a rabid post-zionist haaretz piece which is a farking joke ?

It's a "rabid post-zionist joke" because ...you disagree with it? Sounds like the "self-loathing jew" script to me.

Uncle Tractor: Israel and zionism is the driving force behind today's hostility towards jews, so yes, it is.

Oh yes. Just like it did prior to the existence of Israel.


Before the early aliyahs, the driving force behind anti-jewish bigotry was Christianity -- not Islam. The history of the sephardim really highlights this.

Repeating your delusional bullshiat won't somehow make it reality. Do some reading about anti-semitism in Iran (and the arab world for that matter) before Israel existed before you humiliate yourself further (if that's even possible..).

Yes, because every bad thing that ever was done to a jew was motivated by hatred of jews.

*eye roll*

Being a minority often sucks ...even for the black jews of Israel.
 
2014-02-11 06:48:26 AM

TappingTheVein: Ok, i just realized where I heard that name 'danidin' before mentioned in that Haaretz link. It's a children's book from over 40 farking years ago.
Farking idiot. Good stuff, very recent and relevant. You didn't check the date on that article did you.


Yeah, my bad. Here's something more recent:

1999:
Israeli school textbooks as well as children's storybooks, according to recent academic studies and surveys, portray Palestinians and Arabs as "murderers," "rioters," "suspicious," and generally backward and unproductive. Direct delegitimization and negative stereotyping of Palestinians and Arabs are the rule rather than the exception in Israeli schoolbooks.

2004:
Referring to Israeli texts of the '80s and '90s, Bar-Tal reports: "Geography books for the elementary and junior high schools stereotype Arabs negatively, as primitive, dirty, agitated, aggressive, and hostile to Jews ... history books in the elementary schools hardly mention Arabs ... history textbooks of the high schools, the majority of which cover the Arab-Jewish conflict, stereotype the Arabs negatively. Arabs are presented as intransigent and uncompromising."

So I've got three examples; from 1974, 1999, and 2004. I guess this means that anti-arab bigotry in israeli literature is not the works of a small group of extremists, not a passing trend, but a permanent fixture of the israeli eduction system.
 
2014-02-11 06:51:07 AM

Uncle Tractor: Referring to Israeli texts of the '80s and '90s, Bar-Tal reports: "Geography books for the elementary and junior high schools stereotype Arabs negatively, as primitive, dirty, agitated, aggressive, and hostile to Jews ... history books in the elementary schools hardly mention Arabs ... history textbooks of the high schools, the majority of which cover the Arab-Jewish conflict, stereotype the Arabs negatively. Arabs are presented as intransigent and uncompromising."


Huh ... fark threw away the link.
 
2014-02-11 07:12:52 AM

TappingTheVein: murray208: Not even wrong. What are you talking about? What list? When? Or do you mean best seller in the sense that it 'was sold'?

I thought that it was obvious. Are you not familiar with the popularity of the, um, book in the arab/islamic world ? i suggest you do some reading about it.


Yep, that's obviously a bestseller and not at all anecdotal. Say, I heard you can buy Mein Kampf on Amazon. Sound the alarm!
 
2014-02-11 08:11:55 AM

Mean Daddy: That's why we think wiberals are useful idiots. Don't wowwy, a wepubwican will cwean up the mess.


As weak as this was, you did get me to look up "Council Tucky" and I found this gem on Urban Dictionary:

"The dingy asshole of America (whereas Omaha is the wonderful, silky inner thigh) where all is well if you drive a sputtering multi-colored vehicle and have a mullet so dirty and full of nasties that it's almost sentient. Also known as Council Bluffs, Counciltucky looks like a mythical drab, rundown, post-apocalyptic world where nobody knows the definition of tooth care, showers, vehicle maintenance, or proper driving. However, this is no fantasy. It is a sad and horrifying reality.

Everything is grey and old and broken. Even the prostitutes. Merely driving through Counciltucky with the car windows rolled down will get you a contact meth high.
An overall sh*tty place to even think about, let alone live in or drive through."
 
2014-02-11 08:29:21 AM

Uncle Tractor: It's a "rabid post-zionist joke" because ...you disagree with it? Sounds like the "self-loathing jew" script to me.


Explain to me how the hell does it diminish the stupidity of your statements in any way or form ? i'm saying it's completely irrelevant.

Uncle Tractor: Before the early aliyahs, the driving force behind anti-jewish bigotry was Christianity -- not Islam. The history of the sephardim really highlights this.


You of course didn't understand what i was saying. I'll repeat: It's not Israel, it's jews. Plain and simple, as it has always been. Go over all the examples i provided in this thread, explicit anti-semitism, same as traditional anti-semitism down to the conspiracies bullshiat.

Uncle Tractor: Yes, because every bad thing that ever was done to a jew was motivated by hatred of jews.

*eye roll*


Never said that , simply pointed out that you are flat out wrong, period.

Uncle Tractor: Being a minority often sucks ...even for the black jews of Israel.


Again bringing in irrelevant shiat (that was refuted quite some time ago) that you have no clue about. You were wrong, hilariously so. Deal with it.
 
2014-02-11 08:37:37 AM

Uncle Tractor: 1999:
Israeli school textbooks as well as children's storybooks, according to recent academic studies and surveys, portray Palestinians and Arabs as "murderers," "rioters," "suspicious," and generally backward and unproductive. Direct delegitimization and negative stereotyping of Palestinians and Arabs are the rule rather than the exception in Israeli schoolbooks.


Nope, referencing old stuff from the same period of your original article. Read the farking link yourself.

Uncle Tractor: Referring to Israeli texts of the '80s and '90s, Bar-Tal reports: "Geography books for the elementary and junior high schools stereotype Arabs negatively, as primitive, dirty, agitated, aggressive, and hostile to Jews ... history books in the elementary schools hardly mention Arabs ... history textbooks of the high schools, the majority of which cover the Arab-Jewish conflict, stereotype the Arabs negatively. Arabs are presented as intransigent and uncompromising."


No link ?

Uncle Tractor: So I've got three examples; from 1974, 1999, and 2004. I guess this means that anti-arab bigotry in israeli literature is not the works of a small group of extremists, not a passing trend, but a permanent fixture of the israeli eduction system.


No you didn't and if you think this has any comparison to the anti-semitic, rabid incitement of the arab/palestinians you are beyond clueless. I suggest some reading on the subject.
 
2014-02-11 08:41:34 AM

murray208: Yep, that's obviously a bestseller and not at all anecdotal. Say, I heard you can buy Mein Kampf on Amazon. Sound the alarm!


Yes, arab anti-semitic literature in arab/islamic countries is anecdotal.
I don't think i can stress out how farking hilariously stupid that remark is. Seriously, it's bordering on comedic genius.

Here's your anecdotal evidence.
 
2014-02-11 09:00:27 AM

TappingTheVein: murray208: Yep, that's obviously a bestseller and not at all anecdotal. Say, I heard you can buy Mein Kampf on Amazon. Sound the alarm!

Yes, arab anti-semitic literature in arab/islamic countries is anecdotal.
I don't think i can stress out how farking hilariously stupid that remark is. Seriously, it's bordering on comedic genius.

Here's your anecdotal evidence.


NOT A BESTSELLER. I know you can only move the goalposts at this point, but please try harder.
 
2014-02-11 09:25:38 AM

murray208: NOT A BESTSELLER. I know you can only move the goalposts at this point, but please try harder.


Oh i'm sorry. One of the most popular anti-semitic literature in the arab/islamic world but i don't have the sales figures so it's anecdotal, right ?

Right ?
 
2014-02-11 09:35:47 AM

Uncle Tractor: Huh ... fark threw away the link.


For a good reason apparently, because describing arabs as ' negatively. Arabs are presented as intransigent and uncompromising'When presenting the palestinan-Israeli conflict was not exactly far fetched ? do you remember the slaughter of Israelis, was not exactly gentle if i recall from that period, especially the 90's.

Do you compare that to this ? and this ? are you farking joking ?
And how the hell does this in any shape or form has anything to do with your stupidly wrong original statement ?
 
2014-02-11 09:39:24 AM

murray208: NOT A BESTSELLER. I know you can only move the goalposts at this point, but please try harder.


And here's some more evidence about it being a best seller and extremely popular in the arab/islamic world. Or maybe the Lebanese were playing a joke placing it on the best sellers list ?
 
2014-02-11 09:41:31 AM

TappingTheVein: murray208: NOT A BESTSELLER. I know you can only move the goalposts at this point, but please try harder.

Oh i'm sorry. One of the most popular anti-semitic literature in the arab/islamic world but i don't have the sales figures so it's anecdotal, right ?

Right ?


You said it was a raging bestseller. That means it has some _current_, _popular_ support (and not popular as in popular amongst antisemetic literature, popular in the general population). I'm sure you could find evidence of that if it were true.
 
2014-02-11 10:04:35 AM

murray208: You said it was a raging bestseller. That means it has some _current_, _popular_ support (and not popular as in popular amongst antisemetic literature, popular in the general population). I'm sure you could find evidence of that if it were true.


So you're saying the info in this link is anecdotal ? no current popular support ? i'm just trying to understand the level of retardation so i can accommodate accordingly.
 
2014-02-11 10:23:56 AM

murray208: That means it has some _current_, _popular_ support


It's especially popular among the PA. Currently. Also the (current) Hamas charter section is based on it.
Here some viewing and reading material (of current, popular support). Enjoy.
 
2014-02-11 10:24:42 AM

TappingTheVein: murray208: You said it was a raging bestseller. That means it has some _current_, _popular_ support (and not popular as in popular amongst antisemetic literature, popular in the general population). I'm sure you could find evidence of that if it were true.

So you're saying the info in this link is anecdotal ? no current popular support ? i'm just trying to understand the level of retardation so i can accommodate accordingly.


Links about palestine? A reference to a magasine in iran in 1999? You are really digging. We're talking about iran, today.
 
2014-02-11 10:39:04 AM

murray208: Links about palestine? A reference to a magasine in iran in 1999? You are really digging. We're talking about iran, today.


You are really clueless about this aren't you. Link, Link, link, Link etc and so on.
 
2014-02-11 10:47:30 AM
I also recommend reading about contemporary Iranian book publishers and their merchandise. They have a taste for the classics.
Also a link mentioning the bestseller status. Apparently the iranians expanded on the original version. Very creative of them.
 
2014-02-11 03:09:21 PM

TappingTheVein: Explain to me how the hell does it diminish the stupidity of your statements in any way or form ? i'm saying it's completely irrelevant.


It's "irrelevant" because it clashes with your narrative.

Uncle Tractor: Before the early aliyahs, the driving force behind anti-jewish bigotry was Christianity -- not Islam. The history of the sephardim really highlights this.

You of course didn't understand what i was saying. I'll repeat: It's not Israel, it's jews.


It's not jews; it's Israel, and you know it.

Uncle Tractor: Being a minority often sucks ...even for the black jews of Israel.

Again bringing in irrelevant shiat (that was refuted quite some time ago) that you have no clue about. You were wrong, hilariously so. Deal with it.


*CAMERA*? You're using CAMERA as evidence of anything? Really? However, it's telling that you had to resort to a shoddy outfit like CAMERA to "debunk" this story. Even Faux News has more credibility than CAMERA. Could you not find  any reputable news site that actually proves that the israeli eugenics program never happened?

BTW: Your CAMERA article was ripped apart the previous time you Israel-apologists posted it on fark. It disproves nothing, yet you keep on posting it.
 
2014-02-11 03:12:56 PM

TappingTheVein: Nope, referencing old stuff from the same period of your original article. Read the farking link yourself.


Yes, because 1974, 1999, and 2004 are all the same period.
 
2014-02-11 03:15:30 PM

TappingTheVein: Uncle Tractor: Huh ... fark threw away the link.

For a good reason apparently, because describing arabs as ' negatively. Arabs are presented as intransigent and uncompromising'When presenting the palestinan-Israeli conflict was not exactly far fetched ?


I see you conveniently omitted the bit about "primitive, dirty, agitated, aggressive, and hostile to Jews" in your little quote.
 
2014-02-11 03:29:51 PM

Uncle Tractor: It's "irrelevant" because it clashes with your narrative.


No, it's irrelevant because it has nothing to do with your hilariously stupid original comment. This is the 3rd time i'm saying this, are you farking retarded ?

Uncle Tractor: It's not jews; it's Israel, and you know it.


The proof i provided over and over again in this thread suggests otherwise and you know it. Lie to yourself as much as you like, i don't care.
It still won't change the fact that rabid anti-semitism (Jews, not Israel) is alive and well in Iran.

It farking amazes me that you dismissed this as "All countries have a gutter", as if you have been huffing paint for the last couple of decades while living under a rock, not realizing some of the basics facts about Iran's culture and society (or other arab/islamic nations for that matter).

Uncle Tractor: *CAMERA*? You're using CAMERA as evidence of anything? Really?


A link with cited proof, from the original publication, facts which you can double check, all in there. Point a single fact they present which is false, a single one. Your bullshiat was refuted some time ago. Squint your eyes and cover your ears as much as you want, it won't change the fact that your bullshiat accusations about Israel are nonsense.

Uncle Tractor: BTW: Your CAMERA article was ripped apart the previous time you Israel-apologists posted it on fark. It disproves nothing, yet you keep on posting it.


by all means, point to a single fact they present which is incorrect.
Do you have any more irrelevant bullshiat to bring up which has absolutely nothing to do with what we were discussing in a pathetic attempt to evade the fact that you drank the iranian kool aid and made one of the most stupid comments i have ever seen on Fark ?
 
2014-02-11 03:37:25 PM

Uncle Tractor: Yes, because 1974, 1999, and 2004 are all the same period


No, the books they referenced were as i explained quite clearly. I'll add pictures next time.

Uncle Tractor: I see you conveniently omitted the bit about "primitive, dirty, agitated, aggressive, and hostile to Jews" in your little quote.


It wasn't the section i was referring to about the conflict. I would really like to see the original text you are referring to, i have a feeling, like everything you posted so far, it's total bullshiat.

I see you conveniently ignored all the proof i provided pointing out that your original comment, the one we were discussing before you went on your various irrelevant tangents, is a farking joke.
 
2014-02-11 04:45:14 PM
Somebody close this thread and put it out of its misery.
 
2014-02-11 05:44:01 PM

TappingTheVein: Uncle Tractor: *CAMERA*? You're using CAMERA as evidence of anything? Really?

A link with cited proof, from the original publication, facts which you can double check, all in there.


Have they added any new "facts" that weren't there the previous time that article was used as "proof" that this never happened? Because if they haven't, then I'm not going to waste more time on it. There were facts in it, but none that disproved the existence of the eugenics program. It was just a poorly written hasbarah piece.

Uncle Tractor: BTW: Your CAMERA article was ripped apart the previous time you Israel-apologists posted it on fark. It disproves nothing, yet you keep on posting it.

by all means, point to a single fact they present which is incorrect.


How about you quote the proof part of the article?

Also, don't you find it just a little bit suspicious that CAMERA is the  only website / blog that has managed to "debunk" the israeli eugenics program? (do you know of others?)

BTW:
The women's testimony could help explain the almost 50-percent decline over the past 10 years in the birth rate of Israel's Ethiopian community. According to the program, while the women were still in transit camps in Ethiopia they were sometimes intimidated or threatened into taking the injection. "They told us they are inoculations," said one of the women interviewed. "They told us people who frequently give birth suffer. We took it every three months. We said we didn't want to."
 
2014-02-11 05:48:50 PM

TappingTheVein: t wasn't the section i was referring to about the conflict. I would really like to see the original text you are referring to, i have a feeling, like everything you posted so far, it's total bullshiat.


You can find the links in my posts. Enjoy.
 
2014-02-11 06:48:45 PM

Uncle Tractor: Have they added any new "facts" that weren't there the previous time that article was used as "proof" that this never happened? Because if they haven't, then I'm not going to waste more time on it. There were facts in it, but none that disproved the existence of the eugenics program. It was just a poorly written hasbarah piece.


You mean besides the fact that there was no eugenics program ?

Uncle Tractor: How about you quote the proof part of the article?


You are too fragile to click the link ? you want me to read it for you ? any other extremely sophisticated tactic to avoid it ?

Uncle Tractor: Also, don't you find it just a little bit suspicious that CAMERA is the  only website / blog that has managed to "debunk" the israeli eugenics program? (do you know of others?)


You mean besides the paper who originally published the story and later published a correction for writing baseless nonsense as it is very clearly mentioned with cited proof in the link i provided ? there is no Israeli eugenics program, sorry to disappoint you.

Uncle Tractor: The women's testimony could help explain the almost 50-percent decline over the past 10 years in the birth rate of Israel's Ethiopian community. According to the program, while the women were still in transit camps in Ethiopia they were sometimes intimidated or threatened into taking the injection. "They told us they are inoculations," said one of the women interviewed. "They told us people who frequently give birth suffer. We took it every three months. We said we didn't want to."


You mean they actually gave them non-permanent contraceptives while they were in transit to lower the risk of death ? 50 percent decline that was later meaningless since it wasn't permanent ? this is your "eugenics program" ? hahahaha...

Uncle Tractor: You can find the links in my posts. Enjoy.


I did and responded to them.

So now how about not evading and going on on irrelevant bullshiat which has absolutely nothing to do with the topic at hand ? it's almost like you are trying very very hard to avoid something. I repeat:

Uncle Tractor:Why does this surprise anyone? It's about Israel, not jews.

The proof i provided over and over again in this thread suggests otherwise and you know it. Lie to yourself as much as you like, i don't care.
It still won't change the fact that rabid anti-semitism (Jews, not Israel) is alive and well in Iran.
It farking amazes me that you dismissed this as "All countries have a gutter", as if you have been huffing paint for the last couple of decades while living under a rock, not realizing some of the basics facts about Iran's culture and society (or other arab/islamic nations for that matter).

Anti-semitism in Iran is a fact. Deal with it. Hatred of Jews. The old canard of 'no..no.. we hate Israel, not the Jews' is the usual excuse to fool useful idiots like yourself but many times as my links and posts suggest, they let the mask drop. Go over the links i gave you: from literature, religious scholars, academia, TV shows, movies, everywhere. If this is news to you, your stupidity and ignorance is truly magnificent.
 
2014-02-11 09:04:01 PM

Glass Hammer: Somebody close this thread and put it out of its misery.


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