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(Reuters)   French press runs story about a US and Russian Olympic judges deal to lock Canadians out of the figure skating medals. US officials: Corruption in judged events? Unpossible. US Media: USA-USA-USA   (reuters.com) divider line 73
    More: Followup, Russia at the Olympics, United States, Canadians, figure skating, print runs, officials, U.S. Figure Skating, corruption  
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2014-02-10 10:37:15 AM  
This is why I prefer sports that are timed, objectively scored, or that are head-to-head competitions.  Much less room for judges to collude.
 
2014-02-10 10:45:29 AM  
I can highly recommend the French press for both coffee and tea.
 
2014-02-10 10:46:14 AM  

dittybopper: This is why I prefer sports that are timed, objectively scored, or that are head-to-head competitions.  Much less room for judges to collude.


If there's judges involved, it's more of a popularity contest than a sporting event.
 
2014-02-10 11:12:56 AM  
That's nothing, here's some footage of what happened in the locker room.

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2014-02-10 11:29:49 AM  

dittybopper: This is why I prefer sports that are timed, objectively scored, or that are head-to-head competitions.  Much less room for judges to collude.


THIS x10
 
2014-02-10 11:33:00 AM  
 
2014-02-10 11:49:04 AM  
Olympic corruption?  Who would have thunk it.

You wanna see some really obviously corrupt judging? Watch Olympic boxing.
 
2014-02-10 12:12:08 PM  
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French press?
 
2014-02-10 12:12:26 PM  
While I agree that judged events are dumb, The Russians were already considered favorites to get gold in the team, and the US is favored for Gold in the ice dance, so neither side really gets anything out of this.
 
2014-02-10 12:17:21 PM  

Publikwerks: While I agree that judged events are dumb, The Russians were already considered favorites to get gold in the team, and the US is favored for Gold in the ice dance, so neither side really gets anything out of this.


Well, the team event is one thing. But, the US dance team isn't miles ahead of the Canadians.
/ Plus, the Canadians are much better looking.
 
2014-02-10 12:17:28 PM  

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Surely, the French would never collude with the Russians.


I can't believe I just read an entire wiki article about figure skating...
 
2014-02-10 12:18:15 PM  
Former East German Judges.

/cool band name
 
2014-02-10 12:18:50 PM  

Tax Boy: [coffee.gurus.net image 783x368]

French press?


French press:

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2014-02-10 12:20:40 PM  
Well, it's been working so far.

Davis/White have won every time they've danced so far, on one occasion by an insurmountable margin, despite being less than perfect.
 
2014-02-10 12:24:31 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: I can highly recommend the French press for both coffee and tea.


I like my coffee makers like I like my hookers. Italian and flippable with handles on the side...

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/napoletana
/or if it spills or burns you, napoleputana
 
2014-02-10 12:27:05 PM  
The Canadians are getting someone else to do their fighting for them?   How is this not a repeat from 1812?
 
2014-02-10 12:32:22 PM  
I gotta be honest, I don't know how figure skating has survived the movie Blades of Glory. The mens skating competition came on yesterday, they were doing a story on the Russian superstar, and I just kept expecting him to start talking about his sex addiction.
 
2014-02-10 12:33:13 PM  
Snore.  Figure skating judges have been crooked since forever, and I suspect competitive diving and gymnastics are almost if not as bad.  The shadiness that pervades the judging system is one of the reasons that, while I readily acknowledge the athleticism and skill involved in being an Olympic-level figure skater, I cannot consider it to be a sport.  At this point it'd only really be newsworthy if it came out in the press that a judge was fair, impartial, and free of untoward influences or the appearance of such.
 
2014-02-10 12:33:32 PM  
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Did someone say French press?
 
2014-02-10 12:37:38 PM  

Tax Boy: French press?


Throw out your hands, stick out you tush, hands on your hips, give them a push...
 
2014-02-10 12:50:22 PM  

whither_apophis: Tax Boy: French press?

Throw out your hands, stick out you tush, hands on your hips, give them a push...


Piss on you, I'm working for Mel Brooks!
 
2014-02-10 12:50:32 PM  

Ponzholio: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Surely, the French would never collude with the Russians.

I can't believe I just read an entire wiki article about figure skating...


You might want to wash the ghey off.
 
2014-02-10 12:56:13 PM  
Why is the ski jump judged? The guy who jumps the farthest without falling should win.
 
2014-02-10 12:57:19 PM  

Betep: Former East German Judges.

/cool band name


Former East German Judges is the KraftWerk cover band I play with Craig Ferguson.
 
2014-02-10 01:02:00 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: dittybopper: This is why I prefer sports that are timed, objectively scored, or that are head-to-head competitions.  Much less room for judges to collude.

If there's judges involved, it's more of a popularity contest than a sporting event.


I go one further: If it's judged, it's not a sport, period.  It's an athletic competition, to be sure, but it's not a sport because it's not my definition of a game: a competition with an objective means to determine a victor. (Sports to me are "athletic games": Objectively-determined competitions where physical effort can change the outcome.)
 
2014-02-10 01:06:58 PM  

dittybopper: This is why I prefer sports that are timed, objectively scored, or that are head-to-head competitions.  Much less room for judges to collude.


Clearly, that is impossible to do with figure skating, to an extent. Jumps and spins are possible to grade at least partially objectively, as there are scoring guidelines for each element. The art behind a routine, not so much.

Also, judges scores are chosen at random from the pool of individual judge scores to determine a figure skater's final score. No single judge can guarantee that their score will help or hurt a particular athlete.
 
2014-02-10 01:07:44 PM  

Robo Beat: Snore.  Figure skating judges have been crooked since forever, and I suspect competitive diving and gymnastics are almost if not as bad.  The shadiness that pervades the judging system is one of the reasons that, while I readily acknowledge the athleticism and skill involved in being an Olympic-level figure skater, I cannot consider it to be a sport.  At this point it'd only really be newsworthy if it came out in the press that a judge was fair, impartial, and free of untoward influences or the appearance of such.


I agree with all of this.
 
2014-02-10 01:10:31 PM  

KingKauff: whither_apophis: Tax Boy: French press?

Throw out your hands, stick out you tush, hands on your hips, give them a push...

Piss on you, I'm working for Mel Brooks!


NOT IN THE FACE!
 
2014-02-10 01:15:07 PM  

mainstreet62: dittybopper: This is why I prefer sports that are timed, objectively scored, or that are head-to-head competitions.  Much less room for judges to collude.

Clearly, that is impossible to do with figure skating, to an extent. Jumps and spins are possible to grade at least partially objectively, as there are scoring guidelines for each element. The art behind a routine, not so much.

Also, judges scores are chosen at random from the pool of individual judge scores to determine a figure skater's final score. No single judge can guarantee that their score will help or hurt a particular athlete.


Which is why you end up with colluding judges:  "Hey, Dmitri, you give Mary Jane there a decent score if she doesn't fark up, and I'll do the same with Ivanna Farkyuova,
 
2014-02-10 01:18:40 PM  

IlGreven: Marcus Aurelius: dittybopper: This is why I prefer sports that are timed, objectively scored, or that are head-to-head competitions.  Much less room for judges to collude.

If there's judges involved, it's more of a popularity contest than a sporting event.

I go one further: If it's judged, it's not a sport, period.  It's an athletic competition, to be sure, but it's not a sport because it's not my definition of a game: a competition with an objective means to determine a victor. (Sports to me are "athletic games": Objectively-determined competitions where physical effort can change the outcome.)


I'll add that judged sports do not have their outcomes determined by the participants.  In skiing, the fastest person wins.  In hockey, the team that scores the most wins.  In figure skating, the skaters do their jumps and spins, but a select group of people chosen to determine the winner decides if they were good enough.
 
2014-02-10 01:19:05 PM  
In lieu of venting surprise and/or butthurt I'm just going to remind everyone how awesome the 15 year old Russian skater was.
 
2014-02-10 01:23:46 PM  
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2014-02-10 01:28:03 PM  
Categorically false? As opposed to just plain false? I find that when people use words like categorically in a denial, they're lying,
 
2014-02-10 01:29:18 PM  
Any "sport" with judges is a rigged as rasslin'.
 
2014-02-10 01:30:45 PM  
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2014-02-10 01:41:03 PM  

harleyquinnical: KingKauff: whither_apophis: Tax Boy: French press?

Throw out your hands, stick out you tush, hands on your hips, give them a push...

Piss on you, I'm working for Mel Brooks!

NOT IN THE FACE!


thankyou
 
2014-02-10 01:46:21 PM  
Now that I think about it, this seems like sour grapes after the last one with the French judge and the Russian judge colluding to give the Russian team a better score and the gold even though they were outskated by the Canadians.  On the other hand, this probably happens every time with every judged event and the US is probably guilty of it too.
 
2014-02-10 02:00:33 PM  

harleyquinnical: On the other hand, this probably happens every time with every judged event and the US is probably guilty of it too.


Well, I mean, this one does include the US. It's just that the deal between Russia and the US, in America, is being HEAVILY emphasized as corruption on the Russians' part.
 
2014-02-10 02:06:08 PM  

IAmRight: harleyquinnical: On the other hand, this probably happens every time with every judged event and the US is probably guilty of it too.

Well, I mean, this one does include the US. It's just that the deal between Russia and the US, in America, is being HEAVILY emphasized as corruption on the Russians' part.


Meanwhile, in Canada, it's being seen as typical American and Russian corruption.  Just usually, the US is better about keeping a lid on theirs.
 
2014-02-10 02:06:40 PM  

macdaddy357: Any "sport" with judges is a rigged as rasslin'.


I thought Ultimate Robot Fighting was real, like pro wrestling. Instead it's fixed, like boxing.
 
2014-02-10 02:08:33 PM  

Robo Beat: Snore.  Figure skating judges have been crooked since forever, and I suspect competitive diving and gymnastics are almost if not as bad.  The shadiness that pervades the judging system is one of the reasons that, while I readily acknowledge the athleticism and skill involved in being an Olympic-level figure skater, I cannot consider it to be a sport.  At this point it'd only really be newsworthy if it came out in the press that a judge was fair, impartial, and free of untoward influences or the appearance of such.


Any shred of doubt that gymnastics judging is corrupt went out the window when Alexei Nemov did the high bar and they gave him a rescore from all the booing they received.
 
2014-02-10 02:10:42 PM  
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This thread is useless without Kaetlyn Osmond pics, who appears to be the Jennifer Connelly of Fark Olympics threads.

/don't go in much for pixie-stick tinkerbells, myself
 
2014-02-10 02:12:52 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Meanwhile, in Canada, it's being seen as typical American and Russian corruption.  Just usually, the US is better about keeping a lid on theirs.


I thought Canada had friends and everyone hated America - why can't Canada find anyone to collude with?
 
2014-02-10 02:15:04 PM  

T-Servo: don't go in much for pixie-stick tinkerbells, myself


But enough about the Men's competition.
 
2014-02-10 02:18:43 PM  
 
2014-02-10 02:22:23 PM  

IAmRight: Benevolent Misanthrope: Meanwhile, in Canada, it's being seen as typical American and Russian corruption.  Just usually, the US is better about keeping a lid on theirs.

I thought Canada had friends and everyone hated America - why can't Canada find anyone to collude with?


Canadians don't cheat.  We actually prefer a fair fight, to know that we won on our merits and not through gamesmanship.  Because Canada is just that awesome.
 
2014-02-10 02:26:40 PM  
the french have never been right about cheating in atheletics before...
 
2014-02-10 02:29:04 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Canadians don't cheat. We actually prefer a fair fight, to know that we won on our merits and not through gamesmanship. Because Canada is just that awesome.


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Would like a word - and a urine sample if you're clean.
 
2014-02-10 02:29:50 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: IAmRight: Benevolent Misanthrope: Meanwhile, in Canada, it's being seen as typical American and Russian corruption.  Just usually, the US is better about keeping a lid on theirs.

I thought Canada had friends and everyone hated America - why can't Canada find anyone to collude with?

Canadians don't cheat.  We actually prefer a fair fight, to know that we won on our merits and not through gamesmanship.  Because Canada is just that awesome.


But if you can't have that, you all seem perfectly OK with passive-agressive sniping and snide comments.
 
2014-02-10 02:33:34 PM  
Didn't the surrender monkeys do this a few years back?
 
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