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2014-02-09 10:26:17 AM  
This is why I oppose capital punishment.  Well, one of the main reasons anyway.
 
2014-02-09 10:26:19 AM  
Exculpatory DNA evidence emerged from a later murder. Someone matching the DNA found under the fingernails of Yarbough's mother in 1992 - one of the three victims, who had been stabbed and strangled - was also left at a murder scene in 1999 while the two languished in Attica. That, plus the fact that the 1999 victim had been killed in the same way as the three in 1992, left no way that they could have committed the second crime and cast serious doubt that they had committed the first.

So was this a cold case hit or didn't it seriously take almost fifteen years to get someone out of jail with exculpatory evidence?
 
2014-02-09 10:26:49 AM  
Convicted of a murder committed in 1992.

New evidence proving they didn't do it found in 1999.

Released in 2013.

God bless America.
 
2014-02-09 10:27:14 AM  

Summoner101: Exculpatory DNA evidence emerged from a later murder. Someone matching the DNA found under the fingernails of Yarbough's mother in 1992 - one of the three victims, who had been stabbed and strangled - was also left at a murder scene in 1999 while the two languished in Attica. That, plus the fact that the 1999 victim had been killed in the same way as the three in 1992, left no way that they could have committed the second crime and cast serious doubt that they had committed the first.

So was this a cold case hit or did it seriously take almost fifteen years to get someone out of jail with exculpatory evidence?


FTFM
 
2014-02-09 10:31:35 AM  
As long as no one of the cops or DA goes to jail for forcing them to sign the confession, it's all good.
 
2014-02-09 10:32:06 AM  
Mumia next?

Then Kevin?

Then Hat?
 
2014-02-09 10:35:46 AM  
all that was proven is that one person was present at each crime scene

so all you need to get out of jail for a murder you committed is convince the accomplice to go back years later and kill someone else sufficiently close enough to the original crime that evidence is compared between the two cases, and make sure the murder uses the same method
 
2014-02-09 10:38:51 AM  
It will be interesting to see what kind of model citizens that they have become
 
2014-02-09 10:40:26 AM  

Delta1212: Convicted of a murder committed in 1992.

New evidence proving they didn't do it found in 1999.

Released in 2013.

God bless America.


Judging from the picture associated with the article, they were obviously guilty of something.

How many will I catch with that one?
 
2014-02-09 10:40:40 AM  

Delta1212: Convicted of a murder committed in 1992.

New evidence proving they didn't do it found in 1999.

Released in 2013.

God bless America.


Well, if we had fast tracked them to the death penalty, we wouldn't have to face this embarrassment.
Liberals caused this, by being soft on crime.
 
2014-02-09 10:43:38 AM  

letrole: all that was proven is that one person was present at each crime scene

so all you need to get out of jail for a murder you committed is convince the accomplice to go back years later and kill someone else sufficiently close enough to the original crime that evidence is compared between the two cases, and make sure the murder uses the same method


This - just to look at them, you know they did SOMETHING - statistics show that their kind are all criminals.
If we didn't let liberals delay justice, we could have disposed of this social refuse a long time ago.
Now they are going top play the race card, and get a bunch of money.
Taxpayers money.
Best part - Forever!
 
2014-02-09 10:44:37 AM  
But they're black so they're probably guilty of something else anyway just like Trayvon, right? So the system works.
 
2014-02-09 10:47:08 AM  
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2014-02-09 10:48:18 AM  

Ghastly: But they're black so they're probably guilty of something else anyway just like Trayvon, right? So the system works.


and according to cnn, trayvon was shot by a "white" hispanic, right?  so we're all good here, right?
 
2014-02-09 10:50:00 AM  
What the hell is a white hispanic?
 
2014-02-09 10:54:18 AM  

Ghastly: But they're black so they're probably guilty of something else anyway just like Trayvon, right? So the system works.


Well, we know that there are a lot of people in this country who advocate "fast tracking" the death penalty in the "interests of justice" - and we know that a thousand cases like this won't change their minds.
Why DO you think that is?
 
2014-02-09 10:55:42 AM  

BluVeinThrobber: What the hell is a white hispanic?


It's a white person who speaks Spanish.
 
2014-02-09 10:55:42 AM  
Swift retribution and an eye for an eye
 
2014-02-09 10:56:17 AM  
24.media.tumblr.com

love that film.
 
2014-02-09 10:58:45 AM  

jso2897: Ghastly: But they're black so they're probably guilty of something else anyway just like Trayvon, right? So the system works.

Well, we know that there are a lot of people in this country who advocate "fast tracking" the death penalty in the "interests of justice" - and we know that a thousand cases like this won't change their minds.
Why DO you think that is?


Actually, I remember reading a study that showed black defendants were no more likely to be sentenced to death than white ones.

No, the thing that got you a death sentence was killing white people. Killing black people? Eh, NBD.
 
2014-02-09 10:59:04 AM  

Delta1212: BluVeinThrobber: What the hell is a white hispanic?

It's a white person who speaks Spanish.


How about a Spanish person who speaks white?
 
2014-02-09 11:04:42 AM  

BluVeinThrobber: Delta1212: BluVeinThrobber: What the hell is a white hispanic?

It's a white person who speaks Spanish.

How about a Spanish person who speaks white?


That's a token Republican.
 
2014-02-09 11:06:17 AM  

Delta1212: jso2897: Ghastly: But they're black so they're probably guilty of something else anyway just like Trayvon, right? So the system works.

Well, we know that there are a lot of people in this country who advocate "fast tracking" the death penalty in the "interests of justice" - and we know that a thousand cases like this won't change their minds.
Why DO you think that is?

Actually, I remember reading a study that showed black defendants were no more likely to be sentenced to death than white ones.

No, the thing that got you a death sentence was killing white people. Killing black people? Eh, NBD.


I'm not sure how that's germane to what I was talking about. Interesting factoid, if it's true, I suppose - but not what i was discussing.
 
2014-02-09 11:08:06 AM  

Delta1212: BluVeinThrobber: Delta1212: BluVeinThrobber: What the hell is a white hispanic?

It's a white person who speaks Spanish.

How about a Spanish person who speaks white?

That's a token Republican.


So that means that white who speaks spanish is a token democrat
 
2014-02-09 11:08:32 AM  

BluVeinThrobber: Delta1212: BluVeinThrobber: Delta1212: BluVeinThrobber: What the hell is a white hispanic?

It's a white person who speaks Spanish.

How about a Spanish person who speaks white?

That's a token Republican.

So that means that white who speaks spanish is a token democrat


Probably true.
 
2014-02-09 11:09:31 AM  
What does that make Obama?
 
2014-02-09 11:09:58 AM  

BluVeinThrobber: Delta1212: BluVeinThrobber: What the hell is a white hispanic?

It's a white person who speaks Spanish.

How about a Spanish person who speaks white?


That's an Anglo-Mexican.
 
2014-02-09 11:10:48 AM  

BluVeinThrobber: What does that make Obama?


A politician.
 
2014-02-09 11:11:48 AM  
How the hell do you keep that much weight in prison? The guy on the right has to weigh 400 pounds.
 
2014-02-09 11:12:22 AM  

Ghastly: But they're black so they're probably guilty of something else anyway just like Trayvon, right? So the system works.


Trayvon was an innocent teen who was only killed because Zimmerman insisted on using Trayvons hands to beat him and slam his head on the ground!

/justice for Trayvon
//was meted out.
///drink!!!
 
2014-02-09 11:12:29 AM  

BluVeinThrobber: What does that make Obama?


A tall handsome man.

But underneath his coat............
 
2014-02-09 11:13:55 AM  

Mambo Bananapatch: How the hell do you keep that much weight in prison? The guy on the right has to weigh 400 pounds.


Breakfast trays
 
2014-02-09 11:14:07 AM  

BluVeinThrobber: What does that make Obama?


i.chzbgr.com
 
2014-02-09 11:17:01 AM  

Delta1212: BluVeinThrobber: What does that make Obama?

A politician.


A polikenyon
 
2014-02-09 11:19:35 AM  

offmymeds: BluVeinThrobber: What does that make Obama?

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Cool!
 
2014-02-09 11:19:59 AM  
upload.wikimedia.org

             R.I.P. ATTICA STATE
 
2014-02-09 11:27:51 AM  

BluVeinThrobber: What the hell is a white hispanic?


Serious answer:

Legally, hispanic is not a race, it's an ethnicity.  So if you are hispanic (and not mixed with anything else) then in official legal terms your race is white.

Stupid, I know, but I used to design code software to manage jail bookings and had to go back and make a lot of changes once because of that odd legal factoid nobody got around to telling me about until AFTER the rollout.

I'm not aware of any other "Ethnicity."  I sure didn't have to code for any others.
 
2014-02-09 11:28:15 AM  

BluVeinThrobber: What the hell is a white hispanic?


i.imgur.com

Millions of people. Jimena Carati, for example.
 
2014-02-09 11:30:27 AM  
DNA, you say?

kirkenglishormiston.weebly.com
 
2014-02-09 11:32:23 AM  

Riche: BluVeinThrobber: What the hell is a white hispanic?

Serious answer:

Legally, hispanic is not a race, it's an ethnicity.  So if you are hispanic (and not mixed with anything else) then in official legal terms your race is white.

Stupid, I know, but I used to design code software to manage jail bookings and had to go back and make a lot of changes once because of that odd legal factoid nobody got around to telling me about until AFTER the rollout.

I'm not aware of any other "Ethnicity."  I sure didn't have to code for any others.


So that means that all mexicans are white?
 
2014-02-09 11:35:36 AM  

BluVeinThrobber: Riche: BluVeinThrobber: What the hell is a white hispanic?

Serious answer:

Legally, hispanic is not a race, it's an ethnicity.  So if you are hispanic (and not mixed with anything else) then in official legal terms your race is white.

Stupid, I know, but I used to design code software to manage jail bookings and had to go back and make a lot of changes once because of that odd legal factoid nobody got around to telling me about until AFTER the rollout.

I'm not aware of any other "Ethnicity."  I sure didn't have to code for any others.

So that means that all mexicans are white?


Dont tell Texas
 
2014-02-09 11:52:07 AM  

BluVeinThrobber: Riche: BluVeinThrobber: What the hell is a white hispanic?

Serious answer:

Legally, hispanic is not a race, it's an ethnicity.  So if you are hispanic (and not mixed with anything else) then in official legal terms your race is white.

Stupid, I know, but I used to design code software to manage jail bookings and had to go back and make a lot of changes once because of that odd legal factoid nobody got around to telling me about until AFTER the rollout.

I'm not aware of any other "Ethnicity."  I sure didn't have to code for any others.

So that means that all mexicans are white?


As far as "Race" goes, in the eyes of the law (and in its paperwork/computer records):

4.bp.blogspot.com

White as the new fallen snow.
 
2014-02-09 11:59:15 AM  

Riche: BluVeinThrobber: Riche: BluVeinThrobber: What the hell is a white hispanic?

Serious answer:

Legally, hispanic is not a race, it's an ethnicity.  So if you are hispanic (and not mixed with anything else) then in official legal terms your race is white.

Stupid, I know, but I used to design code software to manage jail bookings and had to go back and make a lot of changes once because of that odd legal factoid nobody got around to telling me about until AFTER the rollout.

I'm not aware of any other "Ethnicity."  I sure didn't have to code for any others.

So that means that all mexicans are white?

As far as "Race" goes, in the eyes of the law (and in its paperwork/computer records):

[4.bp.blogspot.com image 360x240]

White as the new fallen snow.


That will throw a wrench into a lot of white supremacy theories
 
2014-02-09 12:06:47 PM  

BluVeinThrobber: Riche: BluVeinThrobber: Riche: BluVeinThrobber: What the hell is a white hispanic?

Serious answer:

Legally, hispanic is not a race, it's an ethnicity.  So if you are hispanic (and not mixed with anything else) then in official legal terms your race is white.

Stupid, I know, but I used to design code software to manage jail bookings and had to go back and make a lot of changes once because of that odd legal factoid nobody got around to telling me about until AFTER the rollout.

I'm not aware of any other "Ethnicity."  I sure didn't have to code for any others.

So that means that all mexicans are white?

As far as "Race" goes, in the eyes of the law (and in its paperwork/computer records):

[4.bp.blogspot.com image 360x240]

White as the new fallen snow.

That will throw a wrench into a lot of white supremacy theories


No really, Racial Theory is so far into the "No True Scotsman" Fallacy that it's eating haggis.

/ Most German myself, pre-1830 I sure as hell wouldn't have been considered "white"
 
2014-02-09 12:07:58 PM  
Back on topic, these guys will get plenty of settlment money to support their new lifestyle
 
2014-02-09 12:13:42 PM  

SheltemDragon: BluVeinThrobber: Riche:

No really, Racial Theory is so far into the "No True Scotsman" Fallacy that it's eating haggis.

/ Most German myself, pre-1830 I sure as hell wouldn't have been considered "white"


English Itallian, Irish, and American Indian, not really "white " myself
 
2014-02-09 12:18:41 PM  

BluVeinThrobber: What does that make Obama?


Under the one drop statute.....
 
2014-02-09 12:21:43 PM  

Duke_leto_Atredes: BluVeinThrobber: What does that make Obama?

Under the one drop statute.....


I'll answer my own question.........A foreigner
 
2014-02-09 12:23:36 PM  

offmymeds: love that film.


I thought it was okay, and kind of a disappointment compared to the book.
 
2014-02-09 12:24:24 PM  

kryptoknightmare: This is why I oppose capital punishment.  Well, one of the main reasons anyway.


But that only applies to people who are already on death row, who didn't have the benefit of DNA evidence at their trials. Anyone who gets put on trial these days has the benefit of DNA evidence.


In the end, nothing is 100% sure. I don't see why it's preferable to throw someone in jail for life (and pay for it), on the one-in -a-million chance they might later be found not guilty. (If the police did their job right and investigated properly, and the prosecutor and lawyers did their job right, then there's almost no chance of an innocent person going to prison. Maybe we should work on that end of things??) True, if you execute them, you can't give them back their life. But you can't give them back the decades they spent in jail, either. And if you keep them in jail, you we end up paying for their care, And the inevitable lawsuit if they are found not-guilty later. IMO it's better to fix the system so no innocent people are put in prison, and execute the murderers. As for the one-in-a-millions? Say sorry, and use the tragedy to improve the system to stop another one from happening.
 
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